RED CROWN TOURNAMENT DAY ELEVEN: The Contest of the Princes

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Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:25 pm

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In post 14, Aureal wrote:
In post 11, VashtaNeurotic wrote: But I think there is a better course of action, a more thematic course of action. You see, the real winner of this competition should probably not be any individual, after all the goal of this competition is not really to crown a winner, but to help Mafiascum through the spirit of competition. At the heart of this game is not a person (well I suppose you could count AniX but let's not for tax purposes), it is an idea. And so, I implore those of you who can spend, to not use your points on some nailbiting competition between those of us who remain, but to support the ideal candidate. Pool your points to purchase At the Last Minute, and use the Power of the 11th Hour to seal the victory. When in doubt, do something really cool, or really funny, and that action would definitely be both.
Sadly there's only 200 points in play so we cannot replace the entire leaderboard with Mr. Last Minutes. THAT would be really funny.
This can be worked around, as long as nobody works against. The Worst may spend 8 points to double their own points, thus passing from 22 to 28; then they may keep repeating this, thus passing from 28 to 40 to 64 etc., thus accruing an arbitrarily large amount of points. Then, once they have enough points, they may spend 2 repeatedly to get every player under 111, then produce eleven Mr. 11th-Hours.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:29 pm

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Presumably, it would actually be needed to get every player to exactly zero points before bringing out the Misters to prevent them to interfere once they are no longer players
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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:19 am

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Sadly I believe only the first 11 are "players"?
So I don't think I can use power of the 11th on anyone off the top 11.
@AniX?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:30 am

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In post 23, Aureal wrote: Oh, well, if we're trying to get people to actually pay attention and do things in a complex order then it's plenty doable since apparently infinite points can be generated with Power of the 11th Hour. Heck bianco, you technically should be able to do it yourself since it just says "a player of your choice" but doesn't rule out giving them to yourself. :P

And even if AniX ruled against giving points to yourself, it would just take two people working in tandem giving each other points and creating Mr. 11th Hours with them and point boosting them/taking points from leaders and boosting each other as needed.

Question is, does AniX have to approve the transactions before more can be made with the newly generated points? Because I just don't think there's nearly enough time for a long chain of transactions like that unless AniX is spending the next 12 hours staring intently at this thread constantly refreshing it. :lol:
Ok, so we actually do need a mod to play along to generate infinite points to fill the leaderboard with Misters 11th-Hour.
The worst can do it, otherwise I can spend 2*3+10 to bring T-Bone down from the list of players and then he can do it

@T-Bone, @worst, are any of you willing to do this?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:34 am

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Wait. @AniX, do you count as a mod?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:45 am

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In post 31, AniX wrote:Yes
Ok, so, here's
a
plan. I'll transfer 22 points to you via the [0] cost option; if you then promise to do the following in this order:
  • buy [8] targeting you six times in a row. You'll have 912 points after that.
  • For each player, buy [2] targeting them enough time that their score becomes 0.
  • buy [22] 11 times.
Deal?
This should bypass the need to authorize payments, since the buyer is also the authorizer
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Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:48 am

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No, since AniX doesn't get on the board since the top11 is fixed, unless [10] is bought
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:51 am

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In post 37, Aureal wrote:
In post 35, biancospino wrote: No, since AniX doesn't get on the board since the top11 is fixed, unless [10] is bought
Well then the last step should be buying 10, shouldn't it?
Well no, since then AniX would most likely get on the board at first place. Note that [22] explicitly put Mr. 11H
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Post Post #41 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:01 am

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In post 40, Aureal wrote: What, are you saying you didn't calculate the points for doing all that in order to keep AniX under 111?
I mean, if AniX rebels and try to get on the board it suffices for a user with >=19 points to buy [9] targeting Anix, then [10]. So it's not a concern
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Post Post #42 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:04 am

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In post 39, VashtaNeurotic wrote: So the plan is simple, the top 3 don't try to gain any more points. We then need someone to buy At the Last Minute, this kicks off TBone who can buy it again. Then we rinse and repeat until the board is only Mr. 11th Hours except the top 3, then we need people to boost all of those Mr. 11th hours above the leader, then buy a new one, boost that, etc... until the board is only Mr. 11th Hours.
If every player agrees, yes.
But if T-Bone agrees, at that point we can just be collectively lazy and have him do all the work via the infinite points cheat
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Post Post #44 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:13 am

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They can't since, say, you are not a player, so not a possible [2] target.
(There is a way to work around that, but I'm not elaborating)

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