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welcome to the aether

VOTE: Naerys

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VOTE: Psyche

way too serious for my liking

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woah wait i actually do think furtive is the scummiest player here so far
let's delay explanation until page 2. page 2 has always been my lucky page and in the interim i can probably at least finish data collection

also this doesn't exactly shout "i have a town mindset so you should not vote me"

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I'm not sure if a tone read vote is more or less useful than a pure RVS vote

as in, idk if a tone read is of positive or negative utility

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RVS votes mostly exist purely to provide initial momentum

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I'm feeling confident on a psyche vote barring any reasons to scumread someone else

that post feels like it was planned but it is at least a good train of thought

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in fact I can point to 19 as proof that 28 is planned and not a thoughtstream, but still this is a less than worthless tone read right now

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I have no idea why someone would claim motion detector in RVS

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still, I don't think that's a gambit that scum would be willing to pull, so bbmolla town

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okay but my point about it being a gambit that is unlikely to be done by scum stands

anyway how am I serious if my posts aren't planned

pedit: I have not heard of a live action One Piece

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not really sure how furtive could be scum that isn't reading too much into the opening

pedit: what in the heck is that sheeping

ppedit: wat

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Who’d be opposed to me just coasting through the game giving me lol thoughts on players and pop culture storytelling until like Day 3 or 4

let's say no with a side of none fries

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I don't like day 1 either but we still have a lot of discussion to make

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just because day 1 is not good doesn't mean we should forgo dayplay

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My knowledge of one piece is "I know it exists but idk what it is"

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not willing to vote Flavor Leaf yet as we need some more discussion

also flavor leaf self-voted for some arcane reason

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I'll give a preliminary lead rist

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preliminary lead rist:

[Town]

BBmolla - Decently good scum case on Flavor Leaf, the claim isn't a claim that scum would make either

Merlyn - Seemingly townie question in 26
Random Nurse - Towny vibes
biancospino - maybe townie I guess
Klazam - Somewhat good scumread on Psyche
ZZZX - Coasting for now
the worst - Unsure what read to put here lol
Anyone not specifically listed - hard null due to lack of content
Flavor Leaf - possibly too openly scummy to actually be scum?!
Shrek - Blatant reaction tests
furtiveglance - Very weird opening posts with no other content
Psyche - Planned posts, too serious

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oh, and I do think being overly serious is a scumtell, but the scumtell is more in planned posts.

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OK so why isn't Psyche on your Scum list since you mention he has planned posts and is too serious, especially since you're saying being overly serious is a Scumtell.

That list is ordered - Psyche is the player who I am scumreading the most right now

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you know what flavor leaf's lack of coherency is worth a medium confidence townread

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Eliminate Flavor Leaf so I can wagon hunt on his wagon

I am pretty sure Flavor Leaf is town so idk how this would be a useful

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do you believe scum is that scummy and would self-vote

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no lich actually has a decent point there, i can’t possibly see flavor leaf giving up after a d1 wagon emerges. that’s a really weird argument to make on your part iavh

gonna quote this as I agree with this post and it is a towny post

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flavor leaf what even is this gambit

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I do think furtiveglance is more likely to be scum than flavor leaf, but I still think Psyche is the most likely scum

An early d1 self vote is hardly giving up. It's most likely to be a joke, and if he's scum it's the perfect time to try to look townie.

this is indeed a good point

I still think Flavor Leaf is town for that gambit as it is a risky play for scum

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if you're planning your posts and calling towntells scummy, you don't have a town mindset

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I'm only saying flavor leaf is town because that gambit is too scummy to be scum

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okay I'll have to post my logic for the flavor leaf townread:

premise one: self-voting is anti-town
premise B: Flavor Leaf self-voted early Day 1
premise triangle: scum would not want to make risky plays early Day 1
conclusion: Flavor Leaf town

pedit: your self-vote and self-scumcase gambit

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I've heard people claim scum before, you're going to have to try harder to get me to scumread you

pedit: it is a scumread on iavh that I agree with

ppedit: I'll note that in case flavor leaf scum

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psyche literally called being incoherent scummy, psyche does not have town mindset

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anyone else having a gut feeling that a scum might be hidden on FL wagon?

I'll say that is a big maybe...

I'd say Klazam might be scum in that case

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i did not call incoherence scummy. it's null. it's super

easy

to be incoherent and not post substantive content. i can hardly thing of anything easier besides lurking.

yeah this is fake incoherence

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i dont really know what the two of you are arguing about

psyche believes incoherence isn't a towntell

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I'm not iavh lol

pedit: yeah you can fake incoherence but true incoherence is thoughtstreamed, not planned

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ok one last try. answer me this: what is it about having a scum role pm that makes it impossible or harder to thoughtstream about topics with negligible relevance to the game?

you can thoughtstream fluff with a scum role PM just fine

flavor leaf's gambit is not considered fluff

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i feel obliged to ask one more question. what is the gambit? the self vote or something else?

that and flavor leaf is self scumcasing (that is, flavor leaf is arguing that they are scum)

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are you saying my townread on flavor leaf is a tone read?

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but yeah Shrek's scumcase on Klazam is very compelling

Klazam's ISO is a RVS vote and sheeping an easy wagon on Flavor Leaf

VOTE: Klazam

I'll also point out that Psyche's posts are tending toward thoughtstreams that indicate town mindset, so my initial scumread on Psyche is waning

pedit: that's an interesting idea. Psyche and Klazam might end up being co-aligned somehow I guess

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are you saying my townread on flavor leaf is a tone read?

Is that what I said?

no, but you said my townread was less than nothing

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okay but that's my entire reason for townreading flavor leaf

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if you ignore flavor leaf being too scummy to be scum, flavor leaf should be scumread for openwolfing

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flavor leaf's entire ISO is fluff and trying to self scumcase

I actually can't sort flavor leaf but I am leaning town because self scumcasing is incoherency

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fluff is NAI

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that plus the self-vote indicates too wolfy to be wolf territory

without the self-vote I'd be inclined to think flavor leaf is just trying to confruse the town and that is what openwolfing is meant to do

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well I did the same thing with the misrep so no offense taken

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what makes you think a self-vote made as a joke isn't a self-vote

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but yeah that self-vote only tells me Flavor Leaf is playing some kind of 4D Normal Mafia with Time Travel gambit... which is not something I think scum would do

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okay that misrep was my fault

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You're assuming they're always playing with reason in mind.
Is it not just easier, and more infinitely more likely, to believe that they're just messing around because the game just started?

and that is why I am inclined to not scumread flavor leaf

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I do townread Flavor Leaf though, with the self-vote being the main impetus for a Flavor Leaf townread (I doubt scum would self-vote early Day 1)

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you know what I'm not gonna dispute that

well played

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Scum in my experience are

more

likely to self-vote than Town, Town primarily want to find wolves. Scum doesn't and they're more playing for self-image and control. Attempting to appear less self-preservistic with a self-vote is not unheard of at all and earlier in the game is the least risky time to do so.

I don't follow your logic, at all. In fact I believe it's going the entirely wrong route.

you know this game is confirmed multiball right?

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scum need to scumhunt in a multiball

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self-preservation is still more likely to be scum than town, however a self-vote shows a glaring

lack

of self-preservation if anything

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yeah, scumhunting is still more town than scum

but town still need to scumhunt in a multiball, lol

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why would I want to think logically? that's a scum mindset

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I've learned to trust my intuition rather than my logic generator when it comes to playing Mafia

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If Bbmolla is scum, they were able to successfully mist themself.

Zzzx feels a bit jokey with it, which I think is leak town.

Klazam, idk. Probably town?

The self vote is a way of shining an aura of arrogance

I have a gut scum ping on Hu Tao, but it’s too early to push them

I also don’t get pockety vibes with Merlyn towards me, and I feel the two of us have a decent rapport to be able to read each other accurately after Pokemon and that other game that shall not be named where I got pocketed by Merlyn.

okay I think flavor leaf is town as I missed these reads

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they are reads that aren't planned posts

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they are reads that aren't planned posts

I got no idea what this means, can you rephrase

they are thoughtstreamed reads that are not fake reads

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right now I'd say bbmolla is my strongest townread and klazam is my strongest scumread

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psyche's shift to thoughtstreamed posts indicates a town mindset

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why would I? you're trying to put pressure on me

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Explain the Bbmolla town case. Cuz like I can see it, but i don’t think anything merits them being the strongest town read.

As scum, they just used my slot as a conduit, and really haven’t done anything, and the thing they agreed with Psyche working is factually untrue to what was happening.

BBmolla's claim in the opening post is unlikely to come from scum, and BBmolla sort of has towny vibes

there that's my town case

pedit: not sure what JV's read on you is actually

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but yeah JV is clearly trying to put pressure on me so I will not go any further into my reads at risk of being speedlimmed

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if you give into pressure you look scum, so not playing is the way to survive

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well I'm backing out and that's my final answer

I want to remain towny this game and I want to be able to give reads without pressure

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anyway I now scumread you because you're tunneling

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well yeah because charisma is critical to dayplay

if people think you are scum your reads don't matter

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pressure gets you scumread 800% of the time

the winning move when you get pressured is not to play

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That's quite the statement to make immediately after you say you wouldn't delve further lmao but I'll hear you out.

What makes what I'm doing a tunnel? What makes it scummy?

Like I said, I will not elaborate further

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okay flavor leaf might not be town then

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call that flailing all you want, I currently have pressure on me so I can't elaborate on my reads without it being an undue risk

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will I be able to lurk without getting speedlimmed?

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yeah I'm unable to thoughtstream well due to the pressure affecting me

call that a scumclaim all you want but it is how I feel

pedit: my scumread is based on you trying to pressure me, that's my only reason

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yeah idk honestly

I heard pressure was actually towny

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well you're gonna get a lump of coal

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because you're trying to pressure me so I can't give reads with more than 1 femtosecond of thought and negative 3 minutes of reasoning

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I'm freezing under pressure as that is my best move in this position

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honestly idk how to sort flavor leaf

pedit: of course not, but any other move is question mark worthy

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okay I'll assume null as I can't think consistently anymore

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I lack confidence and don't feel like putting on a layer of overconfidence this game

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Klazam and Psyche, these reads are still the same

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Klazam voted you seemingly because you were LHF

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Because sheeping isn't towny and you were the largest wagon at that time

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I cannot sort hu tao

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When’s your last scum game, Temp? Can you link it?

marathon - viewtopic.php?t=91522

not marathon - viewtopic.php?f=56&t=80959

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why is there no "I'm town and am pretending to be frustrated" quantum state?

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Speaking of prior games, do you consider benign third party to be scum?

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Which really has me conflicted ngl. As tonally they seem town but their content is telling me they're fake

so I'm double scum then?

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my thoughts are that I need to reevaluate my entire lead rist as I'm kind of unable to sort anymore

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I thought it was flavor lich and temporal leaf

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but I will say this

UNVOTE:

Klazam seems town now with the recent posts

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but I will say this

UNVOTE:

Klazam seems town now with the recent posts

what did u like about them

394 is a good explanation of the opening posts and shows a town mindset

414 feels very genuine to me

and 429 feels like good reasoning to me

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okay I think Psyche is still scum

VOTE: Psyche

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I really really do not like 491 and think it shows a scum mindset

pedit: still think Psyche is playing the game very seriously I think

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Yeah alright, I understand you see that. Can you explain why you think it shows a scum mindset.
I can't do much with you just saying things

that post just reads as hostile to me

and hostility is anti-town

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another lead rist, this one was formed by skimming ISOs:

[Town]

Shrek - Very good town momentum
Klazam - Excellent posts after the two opening posts
Merlyn - Somewhat townie posts
JacksonVirgo - Good at pushing
BBmolla - Really hasty claim that is unlikely to be scum
Naerys - Towny vibes, I think
ZZZX - Somewhat towny vibes
Random Nurse - Slightly towny vibes
camelCasedSnivy - hard to sort, very weak townlean
the worst - lorem ipsum
davesaz - good at blending in
Save The Dragons - hard null
shaddowez - lack of content
Anyone not specifically listed - hard null due to lack of content
Flavor Leaf - impossible to sort
iamveryhappy - what
Hu Tao- eh idk, hard to sort but weak scumlean
biancospino - very performative
furtiveglance - still scummy vibes here
Psyche - gonna go back to my gut feeling of Psyche being scum, the posts don't have town mindset anymore

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another lead rist, this one was formed by skimming ISOs:

[Town]

Shrek - Very good town momentum

In what way exactly?

I will point to 218 as the main post that shows town momentum, with 225 also having momentum

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that being said, those posts were before Klazam made some very towny posts

pedit: idk either

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it's either Shrek or Klazam for top read... and I still don't like Klazam's opening

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I'm slightly hesitant to place Klazam at top read as Klazam has been top scumread at one point

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both shrek and klazam are my confident townreads

they have made excellent posts

pedit: that sounds like an excellent PoE

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Wait, temp you have me high cuz I'm good at pushing? What do you mean by that?

you are good at getting reads and sparking momentum

idk how else to explain it

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Furtive is scummy

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I'll say JV's pressure on me is why JV isn't top read

also 606 is purely setting up Flavor Leaf as LHF, so BBmolla isn't a townread anymore

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JV this is multiball

pedit: it was making me unable to give reads or play the game at all without intense scrutiny

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I could easily go for a furtive lim today

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well that's the reason you aren't top read

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what kind of universe is Jester normal in

I want to know, honestly

why would Jester ever be Normal, that alignment punishes normally good play and it warps the Normal meta to the point of brokeing

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Jester is not Normal and should never be Normal

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why would we policy lim?

we should not policy lim as that is a terrible idea, there are players I'd be okay with a lim right this second

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how would I be a Jester

that logic doesn't sense make

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VOTE: furtiveglance

confident in a furtive lim

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Lich keeps having me go back and forth I hate this

should I consider this pressure?

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I'm not backing down on that vote

furtive is scum 200%

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you're trying to put pressure on me and are lying about it

that's enough to place a scumread

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can you explain those reads any more

I'll still keep my vote on you but I have a hard time believing those reads

pedit: 200% means a probability of 2 (where 0 means impossibility and 1 means certainty)

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okay

those reads feel very surface level so I still don't town read you, but the reasoning feels cogent

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I'm not sure if I should be playing as if I'm under pressure or not

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what the actual heck is faded in this context

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I'm voting to lim, not pressure

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I'm not sure if I should be playing as if I'm under pressure or not

You think anything talking about you is pressure. And shutting down under a small comment someone makes for you is making speaking about you unbearable to even do and not being able to talk about someone is awful. Please change that, thank you

okay I guess

not sure how I could change that without undue risk though, in case I am indeed under pressure again

pedit: it still doesn't make sense

ppedit: is that your PoE? I'm not townreading furtive and I don't see a good reason for furtive being in a townblock

pppedit: huh

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I'm not really sure what town is supposed to do under pressure

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okay

hopefully that isn't a question mark strategy

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But yeah, as FL said. Just keep doing what you're doing. Find wolves etc

okay

I apologize for being frustrating

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I'd still rather vote to lim when I have a high confidence scumread, rather than voting someone who I can't sort so I have to put at the town side of my lead rist

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I do really want snivy to post however, so I will hold off on the pressure

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okay but if I change my vote after saying someone is 200% scum it shows a lack of conviction

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snivy is still on the town side of my lead rist (for being impossible to sort and really needing to post more) so that's outside the realistic PoE

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if I were making a PoE of 3 I'd say furtive/psyche/biancospino instead of furtive/psyche/snivy

mainly because I feel biancospino is more actively scum than snivy

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reading that makes me want to scumread furtive even more

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if I were making a PoE of 3 I'd say furtive/psyche/biancospino instead of furtive/psyche/snivy

mainly because I feel biancospino is more actively scum than snivy

We have nothing on bianc. I find it hard to think they're inherently more likely than someone who is giving me proper scum pings

strangely I have no reason to scumread or townread snivy, while biancospino feels very performative to me

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Oh yeah? Can you quote and explain what feels performative?

50 is strange reasoning for a vote, and 61 doesn't seem like a town mindset post

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Just like the earlier FL self-vote talk, I believe 50 is primarily if not entirely just a joke. Also I'm not really sure I see what you see in 61

idk, maybe setting up flavor leaf as LHF but that is a giant leap of logic so it isn't worth taking into account

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Yeah, I’d be okay with Bianco. I had a few town pings before, but not enough to defend.

@TL - that’s in your 3, you down?

still would rather not place my vote purely for pressure when I'd want bianco to post as well

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Yeah, your vote is better where it's useful. Being a rogue vote on somebody does nothing and just wastes our utility

but shouldn't you vote to lim always before voting to pressure?

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the game isn't stalled but I don't want to be accused of waffling

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if I'm playing seriously I'm playing

very badly

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bianco vote is starting to be more compelling but I want to see a votecount first

that being said I still scumread furtive the most

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to avoid applying too much pressure so that bianco has no incentive to post

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to avoid scrutiny, obviously

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VOTE: biancospino

yeah the game is starting to stall now so might as well trade in my safe vote for a pressure vote

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okay bbmolla 100% scum slipped


idk how to read 847 any other way

VOTE: BBmolla

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this is only compounded by Flavor Leaf scumreading BBmolla in 779

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Can you help explain why? I am not seeing what you are

847 reads like scum gloating about not being scumread

pedit: 1. the setup is confirmed to have daytalk
2. that just provides evidence against the post merely being a statement that Flavor Leaf doesn't scumread BBmolla

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Would they not then do that in the scum PT? Not publicly

now you understand why I am calling it a scumslip

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I need to lrn2read. I'm confused by what you mean with your second point, but it makes more sense than it being a random post in thread.

Flavor Leaf scumreading BBmolla makes 847 unlikely to be a non-banter non-scumslip post

pedit: if 847 is actually banter 847 would still be slightly scummy as it seems strangely pointed at Flavor Leaf

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A lot of people jumped onto something I deem incredibly insignificant, I will take note of that

and I will take note of this associative and further push a BBmolla wagon

pedit: as in, it's directed at FL for no discernible reason

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I mean, a discernible reason has been stated you just seem to want to ignore that possibility

and we're back to 847 being a scumslip

I'm finding it hard to believe that 847 is merely some banter regarding Flavor Leaf's read list and how the strong scumread tier is empty, and this is only compounded by your defense

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how exactly is Shrek scum?!


880 feels like a thoughtful post to me

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you can have thoughtful posts as scum. when im scum, im more thoughtful.

it's more agenda based and where they chose to push that has me feeling they were scum, and the types of reads they were having.

let me reread Shrek's ISO, I have had Shrek at top read in my second lead rist but that was mostly for having good town momentum early game

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okay I reread Shrek's ISO and I disagree that Shrek is scummy

Will not be voting Shrek as I am really not seeing how Shrek isn't towny

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yeah I really dislike the Shrek wagon, and I was only considering it because Flavor Leaf was the main pusher of that wagon

guess Flavor Leaf really is scum this game

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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also, flavor leaf's page 40 posts look scum anyway

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both flavor leaf and ZZZX are on the Shrek wagon so I highly doubt that flavor leaf and ZZZX is TvT

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the shrek wagon is very scummy and I really dislike how Flavor Leaf is pushing that wagon

if I had to call someone town in that interaction, ZZZX is the townie

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it's unlikely that ZZZX and Flavor Leaf are co-aligned scum in my opinion

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yeah flavor leaf is scum this game

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I'm 200% ready for a flavor leaf speedlim

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Temp. Time and a place. He's already heated, don't make it worse. Also he's Town, simple as that

no, flavor leaf is not town

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flavor leaf, you voting me is not going to convince me you are town this game

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flavor leaf's pressure is fake and I'm trying to play better under pressure anyway

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I'm 200% ready for a flavor leaf speedlim

excuse me?? on what basis

flavor leaf pushing the wagon on you is really scummy and the interaction with ZZZX is scummy

and flavor leaf playing the "i'm not scum" card is not giving me a reason to townread flavor leaf

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flavor leaf is still scum

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the heavy self-meta is also making me scumread flavor leaf

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also tone reads are less than worthless

if you scumread someone based on tone, they are likely town

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can you please give me a more succinct argument on FL because i have yet to see a reason to speedlim anyone

FL scum

can't condense this any further without losing understanding

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the heavy self-meta is also making me scumread flavor leaf

If you're Town, I ask you to look into what confirmation bias is and try and see if what you're doing is that or if the reads are seperate

they are 200% confirmation biased so FL is 200% scum

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what am i conf biased on?

I said my read on you was confirmation biased

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how many games have you played, TL?

around 20-ish apparently

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Really weird for them to defend me here. They could be going for a pocketing attempt on me, and it definitely worked if so, but yeah, I don't think it is. I feel like they would have gained more as scum coming after me.

since when was I defending you after I said I wanted to speedlim you

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here's my PoE as of current time: Flavor Leaf, BBmolla, Psyche, furtiveglance, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy

I'm confident that Flavor Leaf and BBmolla are scum, however.

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BBmolla for the slip, Flavor Leaf for pretty much openwolfing

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BBmolla gets a pass for me on Day 1. He introduced me to Mafia in real life, and took me to a MafiaScum meet in 2014, and I've been here ever since, so y'all can blame them for that

That's why he gets to do his thing with the push on me from my POV.

are you two co-aligned or something?

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if a scum is very not obvious, that's a deepwolf

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I really do not like Flavor Leaf's self-meta and scumread Flavor Leaf for it

considering that was brought on by pressure, I should soften my scumread on Flavor Leaf but I already said 200% which is overconfident and I already didn't account for confirmation bias anyway

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flavor leaf why are you trying to collapse the multiverse

now you've hit self-meta-meta

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I will say I was pocketed by Flavor Leaf but not in a way that contributes to my Flavor Leaf read

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I kind of wanna OMGUS Iamveryhappy here, but im waffling

is this a double negative when getting scum read?

nah, you just get left with a null read and confusion

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I'm starting to feel overwhelmed at the apparent pace of the game so idk I should lurk more

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People are so obsessed with me this game.

I don't think it's warranted.

Scum big threatened

me when two mafia championships finalists from my site team up and bulli me
Note: don't do scummy things and come back and ask "why are you so obsessed w/me uwu"
I think Jackson told me to follow up or smth so here you go
VOTE: FlavoUr Leaf

VOTE: Happy

This is wolf. They keep shifting things. First they put the safety-hat on their posts to brace themselves for possible backlash, and now they're shifting the responsibility onto

ME

how did I not realize the post you quoted was scummy as heck until you quoted it

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I do want IAVH to post more, and I do want an explanation for trying to defer responsibility for 1122 onto JacksonVirgo as that seems survivalistic and I was scumread for being survivalistic earlier this day phase

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TL explain to me the scum slip case on me like I was a five year old

did you actually mean to post 847 in the game thread?

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TL explain to me the scum slip case on me like I was a five year old

did you actually mean to post 847 in the game thread?

Yes

okay, my scum slip case on you assumes the answer to that question is "No".

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is this real life

I have no idea

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…okay?

So take me down the logic hole there cause it literally makes no sense

847 sounds like you are gloating about Flavor Leaf not thinking you are scum, even though Flavor Leaf had placed you at lean scum while the scum tier in the read list is empty

I have a hard time believing that post was meant for the game thread

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Are you reading this game?

This is why this many posts is anti-town ftr

I'm reading this game but am doing a terrible job at actually reading the game

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I'm still inclined to say that BBmolla is scum if Flavor Leaf flips scum

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you said you and flavor leaf are co-aligned

that's probably banter but if flavor leaf flips scum it's too much of a coincidence for me to ignore

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"what you want I guess."

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BBmolla gets a pass for me on Day 1. He introduced me to Mafia in real life, and took me to a MafiaScum meet in 2014, and I've been here ever since, so y'all can blame them for that

That's why he gets to do his thing with the push on me from my POV.

are you two co-aligned or something?

Confirming that what FL said is true

and this post doesn't exist?

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VOTE: TemporalLich

Policy

how about actually voting for scum instead of trying to vote me for transparently scummy reasons

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I was wanting to consider BBmolla town again after the scumslip case fell apart, but BBmolla's vote on me is scummy

and the associative still exists

pedit: okay I apparently badly misrepped

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I'm down to fade TL and move to Day 2.

seriously what in the actual heck does fade mean?!?!

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it doesn't sense make

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I wish I were a thaumaturge

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my guess on what fade means: fade into obscurity

I still vastly prefer exile or eliminate, imo

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my favorite 3x3 matrix is probably this one:

[ 1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 1 ]

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why do you say I should be a policy lim but then give a scumcase in the same post