BooneyToonz XVII: The Winston Chronicles [END]

[Merlyn]

Somebody bit me last night

[Merlyn]

oh btw i have a PT cop guilty on deal with the devil

VOTE: deal

How come everyone is ignoring this? Is it a joke and I'm just missing it?

[Merlyn]

do the bites sound like they are a scum controlled power to those of you that got bit

cause that might help us narrow things down

also wait is it more then three people that got bit

The message is super short. I want to say it's- bad, because it's a bite? But nothing has happened to the others yet (that we know of). But there is one piece of info I don't think anyone else has shared, and it kind of points to someone and I don't know why scum would do that?

[Merlyn]

I want to say it's- bad, because it's a bite? But nothing has happened to the others yet (that we know of)

so it's like a fruit vend?

no idea

[Merlyn]

Hey, who have you demillerized again, Tanuki? I went back through your iso but I'm missing it

[Merlyn]

well shit you were my one strong scumread elements

VOTE: theta

[Merlyn]

UNVOTE:

[Merlyn]

am i suppoised to have heard of this biting thing before yall talking about it like it's a known quantity

i am trying to figure out what it could be

elements and you and now merlyn are who i remember claiming it though pisskop is saying alisae and deal also mentioned it now so i am not sure what it could be

um i did not claim that i have no idea what yall are talking about

also i got bitten last night by a dog which is odd because im the one who should be doing the bitting

[Merlyn]

Okay, I'm just going to add this part- so the message to me says it's a two headed dog that bit me. Which made me search stuff about dogs and biting in this game, and for a second I thought this was Elements softing:

Interesting kill. what can kill a two headed dragon? a two headed dog?

But I don't know what that would be after all this

[Merlyn]

i feel like i could buy that push from ceph a lil more than FB

still scum tho

the reason I was asking who got demillerized earlier is bc this should be an easy check at this point

[Merlyn]

Okay, I'm just going to add this part- so the message to me says it's a two headed dog that bit me. Which made me search stuff about dogs and biting in this game, and for a second I thought this was Elements softing:

Interesting kill. what can kill a two headed dragon? a two headed dog?

But I don't know what that would be after all this

It was me softing

FOR WHAT

[Merlyn]

tanuki + ele scum?

ele could've been hoping for tanuki to back them up for the guilty and tanuki aborted the plan bc it obviously ties them together?

what, so they don't have a scum thread to work this stuff in private?

[Merlyn]

I'm gonna go trick or treating

[Merlyn]

that

oh dear

is it a reflavored arson

What's that, theta?

[Merlyn]

VOTE: Theta Alpine

PLEASE kill her if for some reason you guys lim me

who do you think are her partners?

my scumread on her was independent so idk yet

what is your scumread on theta? You seem to feel more strongly about it than I realized

[Merlyn]

Theta trying to force 1v1s also reeks of scum going down so trying to get into a 1v1 with the most scumread players as her only chance for survival

VOTE: Theta Alpine

PLEASE kill her if for some reason you guys lim me

Who forced a 1v1 again?

[Merlyn]

oh btw i have a PT cop guilty on deal with the devil

VOTE: deal

Nice I don't have to do much

nah

there is not a mafia arsonist. that is ridiculous

So Hu Tao started the read, paused before finishing the read to post this, and then...never finished the read.

Who else in here played with Hu Tao in Blood over Utopia? This is scum Hu Tao, yes?

[Merlyn]

Hu Tao has been largely absent from the game, and vla still

Where do you see that she's on vla?

[Merlyn]

i would really we rather not have an early hammer

?? No one has more than 3 votes?

[Merlyn]

my unofficial vote count:

camelCasedSnivy [1]: Tanuki The Bold, 
Theta Alpine [3]: Pisskop, The Stage, CamelcasedSnivy. 
Skygazer [1]: Deal With The Devil
Elements [3]: Elements, Sky, Theta

Not Voting [3]: Hu Tao, Bingle, Merlyn,

[Merlyn]

Vote Count 4.02

Spoiler:

camelCasedSnivy [3]:

Skygazer, Tanuki The Bold, Theta Alpine

Theta Alpine [3]:

Pisskop, The Stage, CamelcasedSnivy

Skygazer [1]:

Deal With The Devil

Bingle [1]:

Elements

Not Voting [3]:

OopsieDaisy, Bingle, Merlyn,

With

11

alive, it takes

6

to fade.

Day 4

ends

(expired on 2023-11-07 13:30:00)

on

November 7th

.

Mod Notes:

I'll try to get at least one vote count every day.

Also Booney, Oopsie repped out a while ago, you mean Hu Tao

[Merlyn]

VOTE: elements venge me
E-2

[Merlyn]

elements is never scum here

never say never

but i'm inclined to agree in this case

WHY

[Merlyn]

is lying and lying about your claim seriously the way to be townread here

[Merlyn]

There's almost certainly a protective, though, right? Or Tanuki would be dead

[Merlyn]

but there are three ways this can play out:

1) they venge scum
2) they are scum
3) they venge town and the game can finally end

so a win-win-win

[Merlyn]

Sky is on your wagon so she can't be slowing things down that much

[Merlyn]

Hang on why is sky still on your wagon?

[Merlyn]

There's almost certainly a protective, though, right? Or Tanuki would be dead

there haven't been any clear missed kills - so we can only surmise that scum *think* there is a protective

that is...a good point

[Merlyn]

Hang on why is sky still on your wagon?

idk you're still on their wagon too. thought ele wanted to venge but i suppose not. the fact that they changed their mind gives me pause though :

|

yeah, but I think they're scum. You said this after voting for elements, right?

i've settled on ele-town i think based on that claim

elements is never scum here

never say never

but i'm inclined to agree in this case

and then never unvoted lol

[Merlyn]

There's almost certainly a protective, though, right? Or Tanuki would be dead

there haven't been any clear missed kills - so we can only surmise that scum *think* there is a protective

that is...a good point

Don't like this post

venge me then

Feels very
Oh wow! I had never even considered the possibility that the scum team could be thinking that

I had not, in fact. I'm not the smartest player

[Merlyn]

@merlyn: i think my thought process here was flawed but:

but there are three ways this can play out:

1) they venge scum
2) they are scum
3) they venge town and the game can finally end

so a win-win-win

Oh, I did not realize you were serious about this. It's a little 'nuclear option' but I do admire the boldness

[Merlyn]

Idk, I just keep thinking about Theta wiggling around to not claim and I just don't think scum needs to do that when they can just claim vanilla miller and be done with it. I could go CCS though at this point. I do think of him as someone who acts scummy even when they're town, but I'm used to SOME solving by now. VOTE: CCS E-2 I think

[Merlyn]

whats happening

Tanuki is mad at you for not doing anything

[Merlyn]

claim vanilla miller and be done with it.

theta can't do that, she locked herself into a pr claim at the start of day 1

I forgot about that. But that's a lot of days with your buddies in the scumchat to come up with a claim instead of just dodging

[Merlyn]

whats happening

Tanuki is mad at you for not doing anything

merlyn, where are you at?

who's in your poe? what's your solve? what do you think about skygazer?

I think Tanuki is resolved when there's a mass claim. Either his roles makes sense or it doesn't. For now I'm going town. I do have experience with town Cephir getting increasingly frustrated as the game goes sideways in a way that tracks here.

I think that any of CCS, Elements or Theta get flipped it helps to sort the other two. Right now I'm still going town for Theta, scum for elements, and sure! I could see scum! for Snivy.

I still think and hope Devil and you are town.

If I'm right or mostly right about all of the above, there has to be scum in the following: pisskop, bingle, sky, hu tao. I'm hoping Bingle sorts himself by coming in and solving the game or- not doing that. I've leaned town on Sky on vibes for a while now. PK is someone who seems reasonable and playing, but I probably need to look closer. Hu Tao is on my radar. I'm used to town!Hu Tao being a lot more confrontational and solvy.

[Merlyn]

Hey, PK, who are your top scumreads besides Theta and top townreads?

[Merlyn]

I'm bad at pairs

[Merlyn]

I'm bad at pairs

that's okay haha could you walk me through your previous reads on maria?

I was just on the fence, waiting for something to tell me if they were scum or town. Her reads weren't very good but that's not AI

[Merlyn]

I'm bad at pairs

that's okay haha could you walk me through your previous reads on maria?

I was just on the fence, waiting for something to tell me if they were scum or town. Her reads weren't very good but that's not AI

i see - who do you think her/bingle could be paired with?

lol no idea. I would really have to go through each of the interations with Bingles slot and others I think are scum and see if it even makes sense, and I don't have a lot of motivation to do it for someone I'm not really susing rn. Why, do you think Bingle is scum?

[Merlyn]

waiting for something to tell me if they were scum or town

also i thought that alisae said maria was obvtown but i don't remember his reasons

Ali definitely did say that. So did Tanuki I believe. I got the impression on both counts that it was based on knowing the player, which didn't mean anything for me.

[Merlyn]

I'm the omni-fruit vendor miller. It's a mutated role- if give one to a player, they get the message about getting an omni-fruit, and that there's something about it that can maybe cure disease. I gave a fruit to Devil night one, to Titus night two, and to Gamma night three.

[Merlyn]

mmmm merlyn could be scum with devil based on her night 2 and 3 targets tho

I'm fine with you all picking who I send fruit to tonight

[Merlyn]

theres the two headed dog that bites too

[Merlyn]

on second thought i dont see merlyn going through all the trouble of setting up a fakeclaim with devil just to claim fruit vendor of all things

so she's probably legitimately a fruit vendor?

it is flavor wise a very town claim

Remember Peregrine was a fruit vendor last game.

When there was a town fruit vendor as well.

Also I was a mafia doc who could protect town if I wanted.

Point being, I don't think this clears Merlyn.

I could definitely see her targeting us as a pocket attempt, because why target us with something that can cure disease on that night and that night only, when we were probably not going to be a NK target or target of any scum killing ability or whatnot(like the biting that is going on)?

What to think of your about face on this vs when you thought it was Gamma?

Pedit: yes I was bit

[Merlyn]

on second thought i dont see merlyn going through all the trouble of setting up a fakeclaim with devil just to claim fruit vendor of all things

so she's probably legitimately a fruit vendor?

it is flavor wise a very town claim

Remember Peregrine was a fruit vendor last game.

When there was a town fruit vendor as well.

Also I was a mafia doc who could protect town if I wanted.

Point being, I don't think this clears Merlyn.

I could definitely see her targeting us as a pocket attempt, because why target us with something that can cure disease on that night and that night only, when we were probably not going to be a NK target or target of any scum killing ability or whatnot(like the biting that is going on)?

What do you mean 'that night and that night only?' Nothing in the wording suggests a timeline

[Merlyn]

VOTE: Bingle E-2

If I'm giving fruit to those bitten, it needs to be Tanuki or Elements I believe. Let me know who, or if it's someone else, I shouldn't be the one to decide

[Merlyn]

I gave fruit to Elements last night

[Merlyn]

the only person i’m sure of being scum here is pisskop

okay, why?

[Merlyn]

So, what went wrong with Bingle yesterday?

[Merlyn]

im going to vote theta

scum can quickhammer if theta is not one of them

or, you're scum and they'll be short a vote

[Merlyn]

unless you are scum ccs

and i got bit last night so fun i guess i am no longer a doctor or whatever the bite does

i protected merlyn or probably did nothing since bit but

why me?

[Merlyn]

and also yeah

if merlyn can cure the bite then they are a high priority target and with what scum have been doing i think the bite has to be something strong

but I have been bitten

pedit: okay you already remembered

[Merlyn]

I'm not gonna quickhammer anybody, no one is getting sweet release just yet

[Merlyn]

I'm not gonna quickhammer anybody, no one is getting sweet release just yet

3rd scumbuddy??????

You're a solving machine over here now, huh?

[Merlyn]

pretty sure merlyn is just town here ccs

I am....not sure why you think the person voting you is going to listen to your reads

[Merlyn]

I gave fruit to Elements last night

um. the hell you did? what's going on here

all we had to do was vote theta

come on guys

you're doing a great job of convincing everyone with the absolutely nothing you're putting out

hold ur horses for 5 seconds people.

we got fruit last night - is this a busdriver

I definitely definitely sent fruit to elements

[Merlyn]

I could go for Snivy or for PK- I played a recently completed game where PK repped in as town and I was scum, and they were more solvy than they've been here.

[Merlyn]

Top of page 200 is mine!

- Alianna

Hey you! Come in here and solve this game with your mech-y ways

[Merlyn]

Alisae [5]: Tanuki The Bold, Elements, Gimli, Two Headed Dragon, Aneninen

Alisae was completely pushed by town here....I wonder if i should go back and look at how everyone treated alisae maybe someone will look informed of alisae being town who defended ali

here's an informed little scumbug for you

Spoiler:

i never asked this because i never cared before. but does someone want to try to convince me that alisae is town here.
I will forewarn that im not actually looking to reconsider my read. I am just trying to see what terrible arguments yall have for townreading alisae.

shes trying to solve ig

its not a strong townread but its something

while my phone is on 2% id like to say i dont think alisae is gambiting with claim

UNVOTE: pisskop

im sorry alisae whether youre town or not you're just making irrational choices

originally i thought alisae was town who was just really bad at putting their thoughts out there but maybe they're just trying to be as agreeable as possible

from what i remember in the one newbie game we played you could definitely go about this wagon in a non squirmish way

VOTE: Alisae

are you saying I'm scum

why did you townread me before then

Why the shocked pikachu face here, Stage has been hammering away at you for like 3 pages now

[Merlyn]

the fact deal with devil dropped of the game could also mean scum who can't keep up.
It could be town demotivated but I am willing to give drew some scum points here and there just to keep paranoia alive and well

Why would we have more difficulty keeping up as scum than as town?

- Alianna

its a trade secret amongst insiders but hydras are really terrible at playing scum. 2 heads with possible 2 people giving away tells on alignments and activity drops offs from 2 players.

very hard for scum to keep up unless you have one head who can be super active as scum!! And drew can sort of manage it. Sort of. You i have no idea of.

But idc right now i am just keeping the paranoia of ur slot in back of my head so i can never have drew telling me he fooled me again

You definitely know I would be more active as scum.

Also, you can always control my nuke again if you want

But on a serious tip, maybe you elaborated, but why did you claim fruit after you posted a bit?

Like I said to Alianna in our PT......my paranoia is growing about Merlyn/Tanuki/Stage.

Specifically the first two, I am really not buying ANYTHING you are selling as of late......Merlyn with the convenient night actions, Tanuki with the failed promises of night actions.

Stage I just didn't like their entrance to this day at all.

But, this is me just venting since I know no one will listen, lim CCS I guess.

-Drew

Pre Edit: No Alianna, don't let Fire push you around.......he basically just tipped his hand

Drew would literally rather lose a game than think I'm town

[Merlyn]

Drew: I got a fruit and I think it's from Gamma and it is the MOST TOWN THING I've ever been given in a game
Merlyn: Actually you got the fruit from me
Drew: I knew there was something scummy about you

[Merlyn]

Alisae [5]: Tanuki The Bold, Elements, Gimli, Two Headed Dragon, Aneninen

Alisae was completely pushed by town here....I wonder if i should go back and look at how everyone treated alisae maybe someone will look informed of alisae being town who defended ali

here's an informed little scumbug for you

Spoiler:

i never asked this because i never cared before. but does someone want to try to convince me that alisae is town here.
I will forewarn that im not actually looking to reconsider my read. I am just trying to see what terrible arguments yall have for townreading alisae.

shes trying to solve ig

its not a strong townread but its something

while my phone is on 2% id like to say i dont think alisae is gambiting with claim

UNVOTE: pisskop

im sorry alisae whether youre town or not you're just making irrational choices

originally i thought alisae was town who was just really bad at putting their thoughts out there but maybe they're just trying to be as agreeable as possible

from what i remember in the one newbie game we played you could definitely go about this wagon in a non squirmish way

VOTE: Alisae

are you saying I'm scum

why did you townread me before then

Why the shocked pikachu face here, Stage has been hammering away at you for like 3 pages now

to an extent. i’ve more just been trying to understand camel’s thought process behind his actions this game but there might just be no thought process to be understood

this surprises me, it's really not how you came off to me

[Merlyn]

like you can check c9++ scum PT too if you want

I dunno. I thought you were doing pretty well until your partner posted a scumboard message in the town thread accidently. I don't know how you were ever coming back from that one

[Merlyn]

Also Alianna and I are basically operating as Masons right now.

Divide and conquer with our separate reads lol

-Drew

Pre Edit: Fire, you are saying your play and claim are infallible. I don't buy that as concrete truth. Since there continues to be a smoking gun around your slot and your claim.

I don't know why you are calling my post pointless, am I wrong? Ya maybe......but in the position we are right now I am not giving any claim a free pass.

Even if we have an alliance.

-Drew

I think the questioning is fine fwiw. But I do have a question for you- why do scum Tanuki and scum me do a little dance where I say I gave fruit to Elements and Tanuki says, no you didn't! I got fruit? Like, what does that gain for us as scum that we don't get in an easier, better way where I either say I gave fruit to Elements and Tanuki doesn't contradict me, or I say I gave fruit to Tanuki and he just agrees?

[Merlyn]

where u coming up with those numbers

1/2 and 3/7

that....is not right

[Merlyn]

I gave a fruit to Devil night one, to Titus night two, and to Gamma night three.

I gave fruit to Elements last night

You have a real knack for giving fruit to dead people

I literally have questioned if me giving them fruit has killed them but I don't know why Devil would be alive then or how that could be town aligned

[Merlyn]

then why the fuck are you not voting me

Hey, what are the rest of your guesses for the scum team besides theta?

[Merlyn]

I kind of want to vote pk instead

[Merlyn]

if we dont do ccs i will be a brat about it

he's been my most confident scumread most of the game and i'm tired of his wagon being derailed over and over

It's hard for me bc I've limmed him twice in other games bc he was so scummy and then he turned out somehow to be town both times

[Merlyn]

VOTE: pisskop if I'm wrong I'm sorry

[Merlyn]

okay. Okay if that was scum based AtE I'll have to reevaluate my whole meta about you sky
UNVOTE: pisskop
VOTE: camel cased snivy

e-1

[Merlyn]

Goddammit

[Merlyn]

Lol

[Merlyn]

Merlyn, I don't know why I continue to think you are evil lol.

lol it's just part of our relationship at this point

Merlyn's Night Actions were so unfortunate, though.

It was incredible! The odds of it were so unlikely that I went back and re-read my role. "Am....I the one doing the killing? It definitely said town, right?"

A delight of a game, mad congrats to the scum team. You kilt it. Especially Sky, you Magnificent Bastard!

Thanks for modding Booney!

[Merlyn]

Merlyn's Night Actions were so unfortunate, though.

I wish Deal With Devil brought up the differences in the Omni-Fruit received that they got in comparison to the Message Tanuki got that was faked by Skygazer.

Unless we missed something, Tanuki didn't bring up any of the details like it being a picture or the "cure disease" thing not being there, or say it was different than the one we claimed we received. So I don't think I'd have figured that out.
Did Tanuki mention any details we didn't notice?

yeah, i think it did require Merlyn stepping in as well with it.

Just comes back to how unfortunate it was Merlyn couldn't get one onto the living, but they did target town every time with it.


Deal With The Devil became Vanilla once they got the Omni-Fruit, so Skygazer's message never got to them because they were Complex.

I saw someone ask Tanuki about the message too, but honestly I forgot about it in the hubbub

[Merlyn]

how did I lead 3 mislims but no one (except Gamma and Gimli I guess) suspect me

I was completely pocketed until today, where I thought you were pushing it a bit with the outrage. But you were still so far down on my list to folks to try and sort!!