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Post Post #484 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:12 am

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if you wanna throw me some questions to answer ill get to them when I'm caught up
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Post Post #485 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:41 am

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Vibes while reading


Page 1: Testarossa town

Page 2: gamma town , Tommith is curently my lowest read
Page 5: Black town

Page 6: Kittie probs town , not sure about gamma anymore

Page 9:
Page 10: Black/Naerys interactoin feeling tvt

Page 12: I don't think scum!Naerys ever makes

misread who dies between Black and Hu Tau when i started hence back reads but no hu tau reads
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Post Post #486 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:42 am

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I do think Hu Tao is town though
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Post Post #487 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:44 am

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Three tiers of my reads
order within the tiers is arbitrary
Gonna look at the scum flip iso

Town
Hu Tao
Naerys

Gamma Emerald
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Kittiesecret
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Scum

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Post Post #489 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:00 am

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Spoiler: ORAM
In post 63, ORAM wrote: I actually believe Thomith about his thought process, I think it's flawed and more complicated a plan than necessary but it feels real to me.
Feel like I'm kinda biased given my current stance, but I could see this being directed at a partner
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
If you thought Thomith was being weird, why vote him with no followup? One could say you've voted and explained later yourself.
Doesn't read as distancing to me
I think Black and Hu Tao can be town for now. My gut says at least one of the scumteam is in the group of players who haven't engaged yet, but it's early in the day and as they get involved they should become sortable.
I think this is probably just a list of two town

Spoiler: Klick
In post 107, Klick wrote:
In post 106, DragonEater70 wrote:
Replacing ORAM.
Hi that's me

VOTE: Thomith
Do you remember me? You were in all the good marathons like ten years ago :D Good to see an old face.
Could absolutley see this being on a scum buddy
In post 152, Klick wrote: Got a bit of time before work
In post 137, Arko wrote:3: Klick voting Hu Tao: Can I get some like, thoughts on this vote? you are probably the first person here to have something besides a town read, let alone having a scum read. Would also be nice to hear your thoughts on more than just Hu Tao though.
I feel like the townreads on Hu Tao are rather weak reasoning for how strongly they're being expressed
I see no real reason she couldn't be scum

Her posting feels... careful, is probably the best way to describe it? I feel like there's a deliberate effort to make her posts feel like accurate description and to put out a large amount of content
I'm not really feeling the belief behind those thoughts though
A complete flip flop in reads on Hu Tao from ORAM. I just don't feel a partner doing this?
In post 154, Klick wrote: In terms of other reads, I think you and Naerys are pretty solidly town. I feel good about Thom too, the reaction test stuff felt very authentic and like he genuinely wanted to use it to get reads and content that he could parse.
More "Thomith seems good"
I'm fairly happy with the Black wagon, I think there's potential for scum there but I don't really want to add momentum to it atm
On the wagon at the time of posting - Tesstarossa, Naerys, Arko (me!)
I feel like there could be something here? Seeing if there's more support to try and push it through because there are already 3 town on it? not sure
I'm leaning it being an all town wagon
This is the only time any of the slot mention something actually to do with Testarosa

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Like anyone can read anything from that iso
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Post Post #490 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:01 am

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That just increased the confidence of my reads I think
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Post Post #494 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:12 pm

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In post 493, Testarossa wrote: Elements, can you explain your progression from Kittie as town down to your scumreads? Also why do you think that Thom is scum?
Kittie's position is more poe where Thom I think is scum
the tr of kittie was partly based on her being a newer player giving the benefit of the doubt to some of the "i'll read up in a bit" and "i'm not really sure about anything" vibe posts but then i remembered something either someone said or a game daisy was in where a newb!scum did exactly that just to be under the radar so that faded the bod. Wasn't a fan of the readlist especially the reasoning for the read on you. Generally not done anything that's pinged me as towny since that post i vibed with


Thomith I feel I may be tunneling on because of which I can just see as replacement scum coming in and voting a buddy. I don't think I'll be able to see it a different way unless Thomith flips town.
Skimming Thom's iso I've only just properly clocked that their first vote was on ORAM which has given me pause

That being said and really rub me the wrong way
A lot of the read is based on partner equity
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Post Post #495 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:12 pm

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In post 492, Gamma Emerald wrote: Elements posting looks solid but I kinda still want to flip her slot
What does flipping me help you with?
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Post Post #497 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:34 pm

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In post 496, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 495, Elements wrote:
In post 492, Gamma Emerald wrote: Elements posting looks solid but I kinda still want to flip her slot
What does flipping me help you with?
I feel similar on your predecessor as you feel on Thomith, there’s posts that imo are partner-indicative
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could you point me to them?
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Post Post #500 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:55 pm

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Post Post #504 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:25 pm

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Understood

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Post Post #506 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:35 pm

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In post 505, Thomith wrote: I also don't see why you aren't entertaining the alternative that ORAM/Klick were defending me because I'm Town, so they would look good after my flip? Both of those posts that you think is them buddying with me came when I still had heat on me Day 1.
I was not aware of this context
I'll have another look when I've got time
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Post Post #507 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:40 pm

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In post 506, Elements wrote:
In post 505, Thomith wrote: I also don't see why you aren't entertaining the alternative that ORAM/Klick were defending me because I'm Town, so they would look good after my flip? Both of those posts that you think is them buddying with me came when I still had heat on me Day 1.
I was not aware of this context
I'll have another look when I've got time
This might change my view on Klick's post depending on how many were on your wagon at the time

I jumped straight to towning a partner rather than reading a town is because in isolation those two posts just seem like passing comments for the sake of making them, rather than defending the person a wagon is on

This is why context is important
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Post Post #508 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:43 pm

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I also agree with 502 which is mildly amusing
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Post Post #509 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:51 pm

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My POE at the moment I think is Hu Tao/Gamma - I feel good about them and still think those slots are Town.
I feel pretty good about Elements, but Gamma does make a good point in 502 which makes me not want to fully commit to eliminating them as a suspect. I feel a similar way about Kittiesecret, I feel pretty good but not quite enough to eliminate her yet.
I don't understand most of this? You're saying you think your poe is town? Then why are they your poe?
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Post Post #512 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:02 am

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In post 511, Thomith wrote:
In post 509, Elements wrote:

My POE at the moment I think is Hu Tao/Gamma - I feel good about them and still think those slots are Town.
I feel pretty good about Elements, but Gamma does make a good point in 502 which makes me not want to fully commit to eliminating them as a suspect. I feel a similar way about Kittiesecret, I feel pretty good but not quite enough to eliminate her yet.
I don't understand most of this? You're saying you think your poe is town? Then why are they your poe?
I'm new to this terminology :P, wasn't a thing when I last played.
I'm eliminating them from my POE I guess is what I should have said?
Basically I want to eliminate them from the list of people I think could be Mafia.
That makes more sense
I'm used to poe meaning 'I townread everyone else so the red team must be in here'
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Post Post #513 (isolation #16) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:19 am

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Slow game huh
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Post Post #518 (isolation #17) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:41 am

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Gamma have you read the poe confusion?
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Post Post #528 (isolation #18) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:33 pm

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In post 527, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 499, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Naerys

I still don't see the naerys townread.
I don’t understand your Naerys scumread :giggle:
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Post Post #549 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:39 pm

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Sorry Thomith, I won't be ablemto read and check the context if things before deadline but if someone makes a kittiecase I could be persuaded there
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Post Post #550 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:39 pm

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Post Post #552 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:07 pm

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In post 541, Hu Tao wrote: I already stated my 2 scumreads are naerys and kittie. But no one wants them.
The bit about a kittie case was more directed to hu
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Post Post #556 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:37 am

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In post 555, Kittiesecret wrote: I would like to see this move, I feel confident about where my vote is currently based on the amount of time Thom had to claim with the axe hanging over his head. And the lack of a defense. If not I think the lim will give us a good amount if information going into day 3.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:27 am

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In post 557, Hu Tao wrote: The way you word that makes it seem you know he will flip town and looking forward to day 3
I was thinking along the same lines
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Post Post #561 (isolation #24) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:27 am

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Post Post #574 (isolation #25) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:27 am

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In post 571, DragonEater70 wrote:
Prodding Testarossa
Did someone say pagetop votecount?
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Post Post #576 (isolation #26) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:29 am

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In post 575, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 574, Elements wrote: Did someone say pagetop votecount?
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Post Post #577 (isolation #27) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:29 am

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The fact Thomith wasn't the 3rd vote on the Kittie wagon makes me think they're more towny
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Post Post #587 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:49 am

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VOTE: Hu tao
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Post Post #612 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:20 pm

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Fun game thank y'all
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