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Post Post #29 (isolation #0) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:56 pm

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VOTE: kyouko bc i cannot understand 26 at all lmao
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Post Post #30 (isolation #1) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:59 pm

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maybe i should read the setup :dead:
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Post Post #86 (isolation #2) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:58 am

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okay i actually read now and i am fine with this plan, 3x3 seems like the optimal division
and i agree with dunn that no elim would not be a good idea
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Post Post #148 (isolation #3) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:46 pm

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I don't think no kill is a good idea but I don't think it being brought up was necessarily scummy, just thinking through ideas
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Post Post #149 (isolation #4) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:50 pm

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In post 109, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 105, Claptastik wrote:
In post 104, HighPrincessErinys wrote: There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.
You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.
SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.
I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech
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Post Post #150 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:53 pm

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I think it's a stupid idea to lim Kyouko just because of some kinda mech strat, I think pretty much everyone here would agree that ssbm is pretty town. I'd rather elim someone who is scummy.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #6) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:54 pm

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yeah the claim screws with the mech PoE a little bit but I don't think that locks us to a Kyouko lim

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Post Post #152 (isolation #7) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:55 pm

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I'll ship Wheat
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Post Post #153 (isolation #8) » Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:55 pm

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Or I can Copper if we follow Kyoukos plan
Idk whatever is optimal
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Post Post #162 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:03 am

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In post 161, Claptastik wrote: In my heart I want to vote for scum rather than go straight to the mechanical approach. But, logically, the numbers don't add up. 10 players. 6 to lim. Scum can't benefit from busing. So, to hit scum, we need 6 of 8 town to agree. That's not going to happen. Whoever we lim today, they're going to be town, so it makes sense to go with the plan.

Since we're using the mechanical approach, additional time talking today is more beneficial to scum than town.

VOTE: Kyouko

Here's the shipping plan. Variation from this is a scum claim. I'm shipping Linen.
In post 110, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Linen: HPE, atsi, Clap
Copper: Gamma, Cakes, Celebloki
Wheat: Roden, Dunn, Hu Tao
This is honestly one of the best posts in the game I think
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Post Post #163 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:03 am

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VOTE: kyouko
I still kinda don't like it but that post makes it make sense to me
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Post Post #173 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:19 pm

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I'm shipping copper
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Post Post #174 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:19 pm

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In post 171, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 160, Claptastik wrote:
In post 156, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 149, SirCakez wrote:
In post 109, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 105, Claptastik wrote:
In post 104, HighPrincessErinys wrote: There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.
You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.
SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.
I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech
I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play
If HPE came back and said
Yeah it's a stretch, but there isn't much to go on yet,
then I'd agree. But she didn't. She doubled down and said it's "glaringly obviously anti-town."
To both you and Cakez: This one really doesn't care about the intent of "oh it was a joke" "oh it was rvs", if someone is contributing that heavily in a very mechanically tangible way that early, you do NOT RVS them. Not going to jump the shark and call Cakez outright scum for it but it is a vote that leaves a foul taste in my mouth regardless.
Wtf kinda argument is this?
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Post Post #200 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:38 am

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In post 177, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 174, SirCakez wrote:
In post 171, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 160, Claptastik wrote:
In post 156, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 149, SirCakez wrote:
In post 109, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 105, Claptastik wrote:
In post 104, HighPrincessErinys wrote: There's a pretty noticeable difference in our ISOs in that this one isn't posting things that are meaningless or worse.
You have a vague anti-town charge that you don't follow up on, then a few one-liners on setup spec. IMO it's not a great read.
SirCakez going "uhhh i dont understand *votes kyouko*" is glaringly obviously anti-town when she's literally in the process of basically solving the game for us. If that's "vague" to you... jeez.
I feel like my vote on kyouko was pretty obviously a joke and I don't like how you're twisting it into me voting her because she was solving mech
I feel like due to most of the discussion being mech related, stretches aren’t exactly scummy here since there isn’t much play to grasp in terms of standard play
If HPE came back and said
Yeah it's a stretch, but there isn't much to go on yet,
then I'd agree. But she didn't. She doubled down and said it's "glaringly obviously anti-town."
To both you and Cakez: This one really doesn't care about the intent of "oh it was a joke" "oh it was rvs", if someone is contributing that heavily in a very mechanically tangible way that early, you do NOT RVS them. Not going to jump the shark and call Cakez outright scum for it but it is a vote that leaves a foul taste in my mouth regardless.
Wtf kinda argument is this?
It makes sense to me.
Elaborate. I don't see anything in "RVS voting someone talking mech is scummy" that is a logical argument
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Post Post #201 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 199, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 198, Claptastik wrote: How to read the last two posts:

We should lim Hu... but I'm not going to be the one to cast the first vote.

Scummy af.
Ugh. THIS kind of post.
What's wrong with that post?
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Post Post #231 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:59 am

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In post 202, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 201, SirCakez wrote:
In post 199, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 198, Claptastik wrote: How to read the last two posts:

We should lim Hu... but I'm not going to be the one to cast the first vote.

Scummy af.
Ugh. THIS kind of post.
What's wrong with that post?
It's just useless stone throwing shade.
How is it throwing shade? It look like Clap is pretty obviously calling Hu scummy, like isn't that just scum hunting 101
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Post Post #232 (isolation #16) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:00 am

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I don't like the trio of (Hu, atsi, HPE)
Someone in that pile is scum
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Post Post #264 (isolation #17) » Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:58 pm

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In post 250, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 241, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think you should address the issue that scum!Hu Tao would likely be more self-conscious
I think that’s the biggest proponent towards not voting her
I'm starting to think maybe it's hpe over atsi. What do you think?
Is this because of the push or something else?
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Post Post #295 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:21 am

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UNVOTE: idk if I want Kyouko hammered here rn
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Post Post #296 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:23 am

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I actually agree with Hu that Cele looks scummier lately. 291 feels very much like a "don't rock the boat" type post and he hasn't taken many harder stances this game.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:23 am

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HPE vs Hu could be TvT tbh
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Post Post #313 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:12 am

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In post 299, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 296, SirCakez wrote: I actually agree with Hu that Cele looks scummier lately. 291 feels very much like a "don't rock the boat" type post
and he hasn't taken many harder stances this game.
This is literally pro-town in this setup
How?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:13 am

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In post 314, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Taking stances makes it easier to find the TD, so they shouldn't start being taken until D2 if and only if no tea is found, because finding tea on D2 is a mechanical scum-kill, which leads to a town win if and only if scum can't guess who the TD is. So if we can just win without giving hints about the TD, we should
i guess but that is not how im approaching scumhunting this game and i don't think some other players are either
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Post Post #319 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:14 am

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VOTE: kyouko i guess this is the optimal elim here :?
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Post Post #390 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:52 pm

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I guess it's Dunnstral


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Post Post #400 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:44 pm

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Post Post #415 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:24 am

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Yes it can be released
Roden would have been my second guess for a PR
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