BooneyToonz XVIII: Lights, Faeries, Action! [END]

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This thread is so pretty

I think I want to tag my posts with color instead of a name

(I'm Black)

VOTE: Alianna

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Tbh Alisae and I generally type so differently that I may not have to tag at all

But it's so pretty

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Living Players:

Gamma Emerald
Doctor Drew
Alianna
Hu Tao

Wow I'm dead already. I just got here

Tbh Alisae and I generally type so differently that I may not have to tag at all

But it's so pretty

That's one of my favourite colours.

You're one of my favorite colors

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Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm

This is either a townslip or an attempt at one

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Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm

This is either a townslip or an attempt at one

Yeah, that was my thought too.
Going off past experience, those sorts of townslips tend to be real, but it's definitely fakeable.

I agree. Hu Tao also town slipped somewhat in Mini Normal 2313 which makes me even more inclined to believe it's real

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Fun fact. I thought I was 3rd party until I read the setup after getting my role pm

This is either a townslip or an attempt at one

Yeah, that was my thought too.
Going off past experience, those sorts of townslips tend to be real, but it's definitely fakeable.

I agree. Hu Tao also town slipped somewhat in Mini Normal 2313 which makes me even more inclined to believe it's real

Links?

Mini Normal 2313

It's on page 10. It's not quite the same but Hu Tao started questioning the IC without realizing he was the IC

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I need to look at this latest VC and see the state of this game.

Why do you need a vc to tell you the state of a game?

hu tao did you know Generic is an IC

hu tao did you know Generic is an IC

I just found this out trying to make a reads list and noticed that next to his name

sure you can be town for that

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VOTE: Hu Tao

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Alianna seems townie too

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VOTE: Alianna

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Alianna safer

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Alianna seems townie too

Why so?

Just vibes based on us seeing the same thing with Hu Tao. I don't think scum is super likely to point out a townslip. I think you would more than likely ignore it and hope no one picks up on it if you were scum. There's a chance you could be a Jester with Hu Tao, or even just a Jester trying to look townie, but I think that's less likely

Alianna safer

I disagree but I'm ok with an Alianna vote

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Fwiw I didn't see your post when I was writing mine. You're just too quick

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Whoops. No one saw that

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Fwiw I didn't see your post when I was writing mine. You're just too quick

I want to believe you, but I've faked p-edits as scum for similar purposes.

Why would I lie if you said you wouldn't think it would be scummy of me?

And why are you even bringing up that you want to believe me if that's true?

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WTF people

Between this and the sign up thread can you all slow down and let have some fun before everyone gets all serious?

This doesn't seem like a very fun post Drew

Try again?

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I don't understand what the logic is there.

You: It wouldn't be scummy if you saw my post and then wrote yours
Me: I didn't see your post first
You: I want to believe you but I've done this as scum before

Idk, the thought process doesn't really make sense to me

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WTF people

Between this and the sign up thread can you all slow down and let have some fun before everyone gets all serious?

This doesn't seem like a very fun post Drew

Try again?

Any chance you could a bit lighter on this color? Kinda hurting my eyes tbh

Is this any better?

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Is there night kills in this?

Nvm I forgot they don't

Ok chill with the townslips you're making me doubt myself

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WTF people

Between this and the sign up thread can you all slow down and let have some fun before everyone gets all serious?

This doesn't seem like a very fun post Drew

Try again?

Any chance you could a bit lighter on this color? Kinda hurting my eyes tbh

Is this any better?

Yes, sorry but that shade of pink against the black background was making it hard to read.

I think that's the whisky

In all seriousness I can see what you mean. Turns out this color isn't on mobile either

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I don't understand what the logic is there.

You: It wouldn't be scummy if you saw my post and then wrote yours
Me: I didn't see your post first
You: I want to believe you but I've done this as scum before

Idk, the thought process doesn't really make sense to me

It wouldn't be scummy if you saw my post and then wrote yours, but it

would

be towny if you didn't. 49 was just me expressing that I couldn't be sure the second scenario was what actually happened, which I suppose I already said in 44.
Idk if that makes any more sense.

Ok yes that does make more sense

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Is there night kills in this?

Nvm I forgot they don't

Ok chill with the townslips you're making me doubt myself

Probably wise. Hu can definitely fake cluelessness as scum.

Yeah? You've seen this before?

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I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from

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I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from

Are you sure you have the right game name? Mini Normal 1094 was 13 years ago.

Micro Normal 1094, my b

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Stupid question incoming.....

Are we voting like normal, or some weird 'Enlighten: Aureal' sort of thing?

Was reading the OP, just wanna make sure how exactly I make sure Aureal dies........I mean how anyone is voted off

Yeah, rules say to just vote like normal I think. The only difference is we want to be voted out in this game

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I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from

Are you sure you have the right game name? Mini Normal 1094 was 13 years ago.

Micro Normal 1094, my b

Aureal wasn't in Micro Normal 1094 though, I co-modded it. Did she altslip and I missed it or something?

We're talking about Hu Tao here. Aureal said Hu Tao can fake cluelessness as scum and I said I didn't see that in her last scum game

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I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from

Are you sure you have the right game name? Mini Normal 1094 was 13 years ago.

She may be dipping into my whiskey

Only if you have Fireball

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Trying to find townreads is tougher than I thought

Pshh I already have 2. Skill issue ig

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what’s going on I’m drunk

Drew I figured out who's been raiding your stash

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Imagine being scum and getting caught by Aureal. Couldn't be me

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Hi Sakura

Your avatar is cute

So now we're just missing PythonEater

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VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.

Scum post. Trying too hard to look town

Says the person that has townslipped twice already

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VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.

Scum post. Trying too hard to look town

Ehh,

to me they just look like they don't understand the setup

, regardless of alignment. I do want to know why they thought that though.

I'm curious why you think this but it can wait until Sakura responds

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VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.

Scum post. Trying too hard to look town

Ehh,

to me they just look like they don't understand the setup

, regardless of alignment. I do want to know why they thought that though.

I'm curious why you think this but it can wait until Sakura responds

That is probably another case of Alianna-bad-wording, but I don't know what better wording is at the moment.

To me it seems like she understands that both Patrons and Jesters want to be voted out and she's wondering why anyone trusts anyone else this early

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selfvltex

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VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.

Scum post. Trying too hard to look town

Says the person that has townslipped twice already

Takes scum to know scum

I'm town

Idk about Alisae though

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VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.

Scum post. Trying too hard to look town

Says the person that has townslipped twice already

Takes scum to know scum

I'm town

Idk about Alisae though

Ali is pretty obv town as town

You think they are scum?

Yeah don't you?

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If people just keep up with the townslips like this, nobody is going to take any of it seriously.

I think it's possible whisky drunk Drew might not have noticed we were a hydra as either alignment

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I can picture him squinting trying to find Alisae in the playerlist and then just saying fuck it and passing out

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That's wine buzz Black to you thank you

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Hi boo! Welcome to the party

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Love the colors. This is the prettiest Mafia game I've ever played in

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Alianna faking cluelessness again?
Good thing I'm already voting her

I might be missing the joke but you want to vote for town this game

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Also I think some of Hu Tao's posts have been towny but I agree w/ Aureal that she is good at faking most of what she posted.

I demand Python before I sort you.

They are trying to find the holy grail leave them alone

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You wanna TvT, don't you?

No.

Alianna faking cluelessness?

Alianna faking cluelessness again?

You think those are faking?

- do I even need to sign?

Yes I have no idea who you are.

Do you really think that could be python

Alianna faking cluelessness again?
Good thing I'm already voting her

I might be missing the joke but you want to vote for town this game

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Ok sry I'll shut up now

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Actually it's mainly because of how if you look at his ISO, he doesn't make a single attempt to solve, makes tonally weird fluff posts that try to sound serious, and has not made any remotely towny-sounding post

I don't really think any of this is AI for Drew. It seems like he really wanted an RVS phase and got a little upset that we were moving past it so quickly. I can see these posts coming from someone that is just trying to pull us back into it

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I feel like it's gonna be hard for me to trust Something Cool this game. Python and Dragon are both players that I'm starting to naturally scumread as individuals, and now they're conjoined

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We'd never miss a chance to represent Ice Mafia

-Python

Everyone else wants to forget that game though

The only thing I want to remember is how I correctly nailed you and python as scum. The rest of it can go

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Kitty is the first lucky contestant to have the chance to join my town core. I'm close to just locking him as town.

~Vibes~

I'm not seeing it

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Python, are you voting someone you are SRing?

- not Python

Python, are you voting someone you are SRing?

- not Python

Yes, and?

-Python

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Bingo

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i'm more curious why people scumread SC

Who scumreads SC?

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Python why are you voting for Aureal

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i'm more curious why people scumread SC

Who scumreads SC?

I thought i read something about them being scumread.

Wouldn't it make sense to look back and double check and also try to find their reasonings for it?

201 just feels performative

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Sakura is my first scumread

201 just gives me the ick. It feels like something scum would throw out there to look like they're doing stuff

I can imagine the thought process behind it. "Ok, I've expressed a townread on SC and I noticed some people are not townreading him yet, so the natural progression is to question why."

But I feel like there's no interest in solving coming from this post. I would expect a townie to double check and make sure there were actual scumreads there, figure out who gave them and why, and then question those people directly. This sort of indirect, broad question makes me feel like Sakura is afraid to engage with people, and it makes me think they're not interested in sorting

207 doesn't feel great either. It feels like an excuse to not do much and it also reads like a preemptive justification for not being obvtown in case they start to get scumread

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wtf

I saw we had 40 posts on the account and I was like "holy shit we be hyperposting this game, I mean it's page 9"

Then in activity overview Black has over 50 posts.

I AM THE HYPERPOST QUEEN

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But I feel like there's no interest in solving coming from this post. I would expect a townie to double check and make sure there were actual scumreads there, figure out who gave them and why, and then question those people directly. This sort of indirect, broad question makes me feel like Sakura is afraid to engage with people, and it makes me think they're not interested in sorting

I am sorting, i have two townreads. I'm not try harding and being lazy tho. Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

Who is your other townread besides SC? And why do you not think you'll be enlightened?

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But I feel like there's no interest in solving coming from this post. I would expect a townie to double check and make sure there were actual scumreads there, figure out who gave them and why, and then question those people directly. This sort of indirect, broad question makes me feel like Sakura is afraid to engage with people, and it makes me think they're not interested in sorting

I am sorting, i have two townreads. I'm not try harding and being lazy tho. Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

Who is your other townread besides SC? And why do you not think you'll be enlightened?

Hu Tao, Because im not gonna try hard and be lazy this game. As i said before im too exhausted from my previous game to even bother reversing any scumreads this game, specially since i dont need to, all i need is to find 3 town.

Idk it kinda feels like you are trying to reverse this scumread

For someone who was giving me crap about not... you know, reading who was scumreading SC, you certainly arent bothering to read my latest vote.

Some reasons would be nice, if you wouldn't mind

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We'd never miss a chance to represent Ice Mafia

-Python

Everyone else wants to forget that game though

The only thing I want to remember is how I correctly nailed you and python as scum. The rest of it can go

Night Lights might be scum
Drew might be scum
Sakura might be scum
Hu might be scum
Alianna might be scum
Gamma might be scum
Kitty might be scum
That horrific abomination which should not be might be scum

*stretches in satisfaction after nailing the scum*

Wow you're cracked

Pack it up everyone, Aureal's got this under control

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Ok, I've expressed a townread on SC and I noticed some people are not townreading him yet, so the natural progression is to question why

Sorry for nitpicking, but I think it's more polite to say them rather than he, considering we're a hydra and Python isn't a he.

This isn't nitpicking. You're right. My bad

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Black where is Ali?

They said they were feeling lazy last night. I told them I would carry them this game since they carried me in Open 891

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Sakura is my first scumread

201 just gives me the ick. It feels like something scum would throw out there to look like they're doing stuff

I can imagine the thought process behind it. "Ok, I've expressed a townread on SC and I noticed some people are not townreading him yet, so the natural progression is to question why."

But I feel like there's no interest in solving coming from this post. I would expect a townie to double check and make sure there were actual scumreads there, figure out who gave them and why, and then question those people directly. This sort of indirect, broad question makes me feel like Sakura is afraid to engage with people, and it makes me think they're not interested in sorting

Black stop cringeposting, we vaguepost like that all the time as both alignments cause we figure it's easier to get people to do our work for us instead of putting in effort and I don't see why Sakura can't be doing the same thing esp when she's already said she's not putting in effort this game

-Python

First of all. Rude

Second, yeah I think it could come from town, but my gut is telling me it's not

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Sakura is my first scumread

201 just gives me the ick. It feels like something scum would throw out there to look like they're doing stuff

I can imagine the thought process behind it. "Ok, I've expressed a townread on SC and I noticed some people are not townreading him yet, so the natural progression is to question why."

Also there's a difference between "People aren't townreading SC" and "People are scumreading SC"

-Python

I don't see why that distinction matters here

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Ok. Well the vibes are there for me and nothing you are saying is really helping, but thanks for trying

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Also Black can you commit to a read on us?

No. I think it's +scum for you to ask this though

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Also Black can you commit to a read on us?

No. I think it's +scum for you to ask this though

DE always does that though?

-Python

Not that I can recall but my memory is also shit so I'm willing to admit I just don't remember him doing it

Also Black can you commit to a read on us?

No. I think it's +scum for you to ask this though

Yikes, that's a really weird take when you've been hedging in a way that's caused people to think you were scumreading us and then said nobody was scumreading us.

I haven't hedged at all? Weird misrep. I made one comment about how it's going to be hard to trust you this game. You're null leaning scum atm

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Gamma are you going to start playing soon?

(Sorry if rude, I know you V/LA)

No

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Also Black can you commit to a read on us?

No. I think it's +scum for you to ask this though

DE always does that though?

-Python

Also this.

I don't remember you asking people to commit to reads on you in the last game we played together. Can you show me some town games of yours where you asked this early on?

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Okay maybe hedge isn't the best word, I meant noncommittal / vague

It's pretty common for me to be noncommittal early in games. My D1 reads are pretty fluid

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HURT WITH A BLADE: Night Lights
I will doing this to express SRs since voting is not an option

Why do you SR me?

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What

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I don't think Python was talking about asking people to commit to reads, and honestly I don't think you would be saying it's scummy to request to commit on a read either. Python was saying that you shouldn't SR me for asking about your read on our slot, because that's something I always do. Examples:

I guess it was the wording that made me raise my eyebrows. It felt demanding, like you wanted me to commit to a read so you could start planning how to deal with me. I don't think it makes you scum but it gave me pause

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Aureal what's your opinion on limming Kitty today?

@Aureal any chance you can answer this?

Also wouldn't mind a comment from Gamma and Black.

I don't have a strong read there at all and I definitely don't trust him enough atm to vote him out today

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I would much rather go Alianna or Hu Tao, though I'm starting to doubt my Hu Tao read a little

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Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

After the first townslip I was like "ok this is probably town"

Then there was the second one and I was like "hmmm"

Aureal also brought up that Hu Tao can fake cluelessness as scum and I hadn't seen that before, so all of it makes me less sure about her. I still think she's probably town but I'm more hesitant to go there than Alianna

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I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread UNLESS we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Can you explain why you think it's better to fade someone we're less sure about than just yeeting the consensus townread every day?

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I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread UNLESS we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Can you explain why you think it's better to fade someone we're less sure about than just yeeting the consensus townread every day?

Statistically we're more likely to hit town in the early game so it's probably better to aim at the harder to sort meh slots while we have the time and leave the easy townreads for when numbers are smaller and more townies need to be correct

-Python

I don't think I agree with this. Every time we fade a Jester then our Enlightenment level goes down 1, which makes it so we have to find 1 more townie each time we do that. I'm not sure if the Enlightenment level can go into the negative? If it can't then I think that would support the argument to go for a nulltown slot D1 because if we manage to fade a townie D1 and then a Jester D2, we have to find 3 more townies at that point (4 total instead of 3). Fading a Jester D1 would be better than any other Day assuming we can't go into the negative. But I don't think we can safely make that assumption

I also just think we don't really need to risk fading any Jesters. I'd rather just get a perfect win by fading 3 townies in a row than have to deal with the Enlightenment level going up and down

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@Mod: can you confirm if the Enlightenment level can go into the negative?

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I don't think I agree with this. Every time we fade a Jester then our Enlightenment level goes down 1, which makes it so we have to find 1 more townie each time we do that. I'm not sure if the Enlightenment level can go into the negative? If it can't then I think that would support the argument to go for a nulltown slot D1 because if we manage to fade a townie D1 and then a Jester D2, we have to find 3 more townies at that point (4 total instead of 3). Fading a Jester D1 would be better than any other Day assuming we can't go into the negative. But I don't think we can safely make that assumption

I also just think we don't really need to risk fading any Jesters. I'd rather just get a perfect win by fading 3 townies in a row than have to deal with the Enlightenment level going up and down

A perfect game would require 0 jesters to be widely townread and 3/7 townies to be widely townread, do you think that's likely to happen this game?

-Python

I think it's generally easier to find town than scum, so it's possible. I'm not sure the liklihood though

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Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here

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Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

After the first townslip I was like "ok this is probably town"

Then there was the second one and I was like "hmmm"

Aureal also brought up that Hu Tao can fake cluelessness as scum and I hadn't seen that before, so all of it makes me less sure about her. I still think she's probably town but I'm more hesitant to go there than Alianna

Hu Tao also fakes cluelessness as town

She fakes cluelessness as town? Do you have an example of her doing this?

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This game scum doesn't have NKs and there's PRs no? That makes it even easier than Toriel's Patience to win imo.
It's harder for scum to become a "consensus town read" than it is for town, much less for ALL scum to become consensus townreads.
I have no doubt that i could do nothing but vote my townreads all game and still win even if the entire playerlist scumreads me.

I think this is a good take

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viewtopic.php?t=91984
It was for an express purpose but it was intended from what I gathered postgame

I don't really see where she was faking cluelessness, would you mind elaborating here? Sorry if it's obvious, not trying to be dense on purpose

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VOTE: KittyTacky
After an ISO, I’m fine with this

Is Kitty your top townread? If so then why?

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He doesn't feel like he's trying to be townread

Do you feel like he's trying to find scum or town though?

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@Black looking at post counts what do you say about a mutual chill out from this game for today? I.E. letting other people than just the three of us play.

Nah I'm good. I'm going to a fancy dinner tonight so I'll be busy. This is the best chance I have to play today

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@Black looking at post counts what do you say about a mutual chill out from this game for today? I.E. letting other people than just the three of us play.

This is a really funny suggestion though

I can see the PT now

"The more Black talks the townier she looks. We gotta shut her up..."

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Suuuuure

If that was the case and you're town thinking I'm scum then you would want me to keep talking

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Yeah I was joking too. Would be funny if I was right though

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Alright so since we now know the Enlightenment level can go into the negative, I think the play is to fade the consensus towniest player every Day. If we fade a Jester D1 then the Enlightenment level goes to -1, meaning town then has to then fade FOUR townies to win. Obviously there's a chance that the consensus towniest player is scum but at least most of us will have to agree to go there

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VOTE: KittyTacky
After an ISO, I’m fine with this

Is Kitty your top townread? If so then why?

I have not really made efforts to read most of the slots so I can’t really describe him as a top TR. but this question sucks imo

I don't really care if you don't like the questions I ask you. They have a purpose. I've made it clear that I firmly believe we should be fading our top townreads today, so if you disagree then I'd like to hear why

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Also if you don't feel like putting in the effort to read most of the playerlist then I don't see why anyone would take your opinion on who to fade seriously

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I townread Alianna.

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We shouldn't fade anyone yet. We have 9 days

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We shouldn't fade anyone yet. We have 9 days

Wrong. This gives scum more time to think of more strategies

???

You'll never convince me that ending the day 24 hours after the game starts is the optimal play. The best way to read people is to make them talk

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But Black, they were only at E-2, E-1 I would get your point......but I don't feel there was any danger of them being limmed

I only said that because it seemed like Hu was actively campaigning for people to join the wagon and end the day. I wanted to make my stance clear and stop the momentum

I don't think Hu and Kitty are ever scum together. It just seems too obvious of a ploy to get him out if they were. Chances are she's just town that has a weird approach to the game

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I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~

I mean, there's also the WIFOM aspect of "no scum is crazy enough to push their scumbuddy through 24 hours into the game because vibes."

Yep I thought this too, but I decided it's probably not very likely

Can you stop being so town

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I think Cool is town. Vibes. I don't think scum would tryhard like this so early.

Reads list coming later today.

Uh... Ever play with usesPython before? This is almost low-key for them.

Seconded

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I think Cool is town. Vibes. I don't think scum would tryhard like this so early.

Reads list coming later today.

Uh... Ever play with usesPython before? This is almost low-key for them.

I don't actually remember uP actually. The name rings a bell but I may have gotten limmed d1 in whatever game we were in, or repped out.

They absolutely tryhard as scum sometimes

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I think Cool is town. Vibes. I don't think scum would tryhard like this so early.

Reads list coming later today.

Uh... Ever play with usesPython before? This is almost low-key for them.

Seconded

Python is a try hard no matter what, thankfully they have spoilered all the maths for me though haha.

Not necessarily. In a game we played recently they toned it down a lot. They are tricky

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Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here

Right right right I thought it was capped at zero. nvm what I said.

VOTE: Something Cool

Do you have any thoughts on Alianna or Hu Tao?

[Night Lights]

Why Kitty?

After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?

I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...

Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

I think with the confirmation that Enlightenment can go into the negative it would be super risky to fade anyone close to null D1. I could be wrong but I absolutely think we should go for the towniest player here

Right right right I thought it was capped at zero. nvm what I said.

VOTE: Something Cool

Uhh...was this you considering fading a scummy player to avoid an enlightenment buff?

[Night Lights]

i'm more curious why people scumread SC

Who scumreads SC?

I thought i read something about them being scumread.

Wouldn't it make sense to look back and double check and also try to find their reasonings for it?

201 just feels performative

Hmmm, really Black? You actually expect town to be more accurate about what's going on? Even people who have said they're not trying very hard?

I don't think she had said she wasn't trying very hard before she wrote this. I feel like most of that came after

Guessing Drew is that low cause of this?
*snip*

Actually it's mainly because of how if you look at his ISO, he doesn't make a single attempt to solve, makes tonally weird fluff posts that try to sound serious, and has not made any remotely towny-sounding post.

I would need to check how much experience Dragon has with Drew, but I know I scumread town!Drew for similar stuff in WDM Redux, which Dragon was in. It wasn't

exactly

the same thing, but he was coasting, not being all that solvy, and I thought his tone was off. The point being that it feels like maybe Dragon should have known that wasn't scum-indicative.

Funny enough, Drew also bet his life on town!Snivy that game, but it wasn't quite as early as the Sakura locktown.

I also bet my life on scumTitus and townPython quite literally, which did work out fairly well lol. I forget, was Snivy town that game?

Also, to make things clear, my Sakura read was based in jokes......brb let me explain

Drew seems like town here.

I agree. I like Drew here

Drew is playing pretty casually and it doesn't feel like he's trying to be townread. This feeling makes SC's reads on Kitty and Drew more interesting to me. They townread Kitty because he's not trying to be townread but they scumread Drew for not trying to solve. I'm not really understanding that

[Night Lights]

I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".

I don't like this post

[Night Lights]

I like Python, like one of my favorite players to play with on here, but they will scum read someone for not playing how they think you should play(not calling them out per se, because others do this as well). But just because I am not solving in a way that you agree with, does not mean I am not solving

I'm pretty sure it was Dragon that made the Kitty/Drew reads

[Night Lights]

I really hope scum has some night actions to make this game more interesting coz im very bored with just "find 3 townies and autowin".

I don't like this post

What else is new.

You actually had a couple that I liked before this

[Night Lights]

I don't trust Black but I've read up to about halfway through page 9 and I mindmeld with so many of her posts up to that point and on this page.

Understandable. I even told Alisae coming into this that it might be hard for a lot of these players to trust me and that I could be a handicap

[Night Lights]

B. Alianna will obv town it if she is town, haven't seen that yet. Not saying she is scum, but I am waiting for the thing that tells me 'Oh, Arizona State is town'

I think she's pretty obvtown but it might just be because we're mindmelding a bit

[Night Lights]

UNLESS

we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

I don't have a read on this outside of not seeing any mechanism to make this work other than gating Dark Jester factional abilities behind the LE

-Python

I am curious to know what sort of night abilities you think could potentially be in play for anyone.

Jesters probably have some night abilities

From 1:

Dark Jesters do not have a Factional Kill By Default. Instead, they have a collection of abilities that each Dark Jester can use.

[Night Lights]

445 feels like a stark contrast from some of the things Sakura was saying earlier. It kinda feels like she was trying to pretend like the scumreads didn't bother her but I think it's pretty obvious they do. I don't think it's scummy to be bothered by scumreads but trying to play it off like your not bothered doesn't feel great

That being said, im pretty sure my fame as a scum player will prevent me from being obvtown moving forward anyway so im probably not gonna care if im enlightened or not.

Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

As i said before im too exhausted from my previous game to even bother reversing any scumreads this game, specially since i dont need to, all i need is to find 3 town.

[Night Lights]

Man sometimes I

really

wish we could edit grammatical errors. They make me feel like an idiot but I just type fast

[Night Lights]

It kinda feels like she was trying to pretend like the scumreads didn't bother her but I think it's pretty obvious they do.

I dont think there's

anyone

that is never bothered by scumreads.

I don't think it's scummy to be bothered by scumreads but trying to play it off like your not bothered doesn't feel great

It doesn't really. It's like a bunch of bottled emotions.

I despise getting scumread as town. It makes me paranoid, it feels like I'm playing bad and I'm failing at my objective and it has caused me to lose motivation to play before

I really hope you know this is just a game and I'm not personally attacking you by thinking you could be scum. I want you to enjoy the game <3

[Night Lights]

445 feels like a stark contrast from some of the things Sakura was saying earlier. It kinda feels like she was trying to pretend like the scumreads didn't bother her but I think it's pretty obvious they do. I don't think it's scummy to be bothered by scumreads but trying to play it off like your not bothered doesn't feel great

That being said, im pretty sure my fame as a scum player will prevent me from being obvtown moving forward anyway so im probably not gonna care if im enlightened or not.

Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

As i said before im too exhausted from my previous game to even bother reversing any scumreads this game, specially since i dont need to, all i need is to find 3 town.

Are you real? I think Sakura has been consistently saying that she's not feeling it and kinda despaired because she's being scumread. This is mega consistent.

Bro are you even reading my posts? I just pointed out three of her posts that makes it seem like she doesn't care about getting scumread. So they either bother her and she was pretending that they didn't or they don't bother her. I don't know what's so hard to understand about 450 and it low-key feels like you are trying to white knight her rn

[Night Lights]

I really hope you know this is just a game and I'm not personally attacking you by thinking you could be scum.

I know, you're either town legit scumreading me or scum doing it's job but.
I literally came here and i get scumread, im like "ok fine, after snowing so many people on my last 2 scum games it's expected anyway"
then a bunch of other people start scumreading me and im like "well if im gonna be scumread no matter what i do i might as well just troll a bit to at least enjoy a game that's gonna be autowin"
And then i get scumread for trolling as well so im like "why am i even playing this game"

I get it

Fwiw I think this sorta feels like townie frustration because I can relate to it, but I've been burned by AtE before so I'm not willing to commit to that read yet

[Night Lights]

...

You seem to be missing an opinion on a slot here...


*trying not to panic at the thought of the hydras being scum together*

He did say we were beefing

[Night Lights]

They*

Thought Dragon wrote that

[Night Lights]

I was going forward with the plan to fade a nulltown player instead but I realized it's dumb. I have a stream of consciousness way of playing.

That's fair

I'm happy you agree with me that the plan is dumb

[Night Lights]

...

You seem to be missing an opinion on a slot here...


*trying not to panic at the thought of the hydras being scum together*

He did say we were beefing

Yeah, which would refer to their slot, not yours.

Unless "beefing" is supposed to be some sort of action involving both of you I guess? Randomly verbing a noun does not lend itself well to interpretation.

I'm pretty sure they were referring to them beefing with me since they were responding to me. I disagree that we were beefing but it could be interpreted that way from me saying they were +scum and them going "yikes, bad read"

[Night Lights]

445 feels like a stark contrast from some of the things Sakura was saying earlier. It kinda feels like she was trying to pretend like the scumreads didn't bother her but I think it's pretty obvious they do. I don't think it's scummy to be bothered by scumreads but trying to play it off like your not bothered doesn't feel great

That being said, im pretty sure my fame as a scum player will prevent me from being obvtown moving forward anyway so im probably not gonna care if im enlightened or not.

Nevertheless i'm never being enligthened so, feel free to scumread me, not gonna change my fate anyway.

As i said before im too exhausted from my previous game to even bother reversing any scumreads this game, specially since i dont need to, all i need is to find 3 town.

I have in fact read this but I do think her behavior is consistent. Yes her words said "I don't care", but her tone said "I'm too tired annoyed for this, I hate being scumread".

Yeah perhaps

[Night Lights]

Random question but what does "boo" mean? Is it like "hun"?

Yes it's just the American slang version

[Night Lights]

Maybe I should just call it a day with my early town core of Black/Aureal/Python/Alianna and not think about the alignments of anybody else.

I dunno if it's a good idea because Black is LAMIST as fuck and it's disconcerting, but I've never seen scum put so much effort into making sure that every single player will play optimally and not throw and I also don't think scum!Black tends to be LAMIST.

I'm kinda surprised you would put me in the towncore. It feels like you've been pretty combative with me

I'm also surprised to be perceived as LAMIST

The whole making sure other people play optimally is just me being super competitive. It's probably town indicative of me but I don't think self-meta is very useful here. I could probably fake the frustration as scum but I don't think I've ever tried

[Night Lights]

Random question but what does "boo" mean? Is it like "hun"?

Yes it's just the American slang version

I disavow any knowledge of this slang.

You've never heard of it or you don't like it?

[Night Lights]

Maybe I should just call it a day with my early town core of Black/Aureal/Python/Alianna and not think about the alignments of anybody else.

I dunno if it's a good idea because Black is LAMIST as fuck and it's disconcerting, but I've never seen scum put so much effort into making sure that every single player will play optimally and not throw and I also don't think scum!Black tends to be LAMIST.

I will continue to wistfully imagine a world where Alianna > Black > SC solves the gme though.

Wait why is Aureal in the towncore? Can you explain your read there

[Night Lights]

And yeah, attacking people for non-optimum play is very LAMIST.

Huh. Ok. This is just something I do. I don't like losing

[Night Lights]

Random question but what does "boo" mean? Is it like "hun"?

Yes it's just the American slang version

I disavow any knowledge of this slang.

You've never heard of it or you don't like it?

Is... Is it supposed to be some corruption of "beau"?

Why do I have such a hard time figuring out people's non-standard language?

Yes that's exactly where it came from

I know I'm younger than you so it's probably just something from my generation

[Night Lights]

@Aureal what do your reads look like?

[Night Lights]

What

[Night Lights]

sigh

I'm just gonna go and sit in a corner while you guys win the game for me i guess. Don't ask me for anymore explanations i wont give them, since clearly i just get ignored.

Yo can you please chill with the AtE? It's fine if you don't feel like playing or whatever but it makes it pretty hard to read you

[Night Lights]

sigh

I'm just gonna go and sit in a corner while you guys win the game for me i guess. Don't ask me for anymore explanations i wont give them, since clearly i just get ignored.

Yo can you please chill with the AtE? It's fine if you don't feel like playing or whatever but it makes it pretty hard to read you

It looks to me like you already read me, so you dont need to.

I scumread some of your posts and I townread others, and then you throw in the AtE which I always gut townread but then when it keeps going I get worried that it's an act. I'd rather not have to read the AtE at all if possible. I understand the game is frustrating and sometimes we just can't help it but I'm hoping you can find a way to just block out the noise and just play. You don't have to try hard or post much but I would really like it if your emotions didn't seep into your posts as much. I'm sorry you're not having a good time

[Night Lights]

Of course unless you think it's fun to be asked for an explanation i crack my head to figure out where the source of my gut read is and post it and then get completely ignored while im still globally scumread?
Like, why should i care at this point. Give me a reason, nothing i do is making people reverse the scumreads, nothing i do is helping people solve, so i might as well do nothing since it will have the same result and i put less effort.

I disagree that nothing you are doing is helping people solve. People are asking you questions and you seem to be answering them honestly. That's all you really need to do

[Night Lights]

@Aureal what do your reads look like?

I townread Alianna.





(Autosuggest now completes that sentence properly for me )

Can you give me some other reads?

[Night Lights]

I said, BLACK IS TOWN.

How did me asking Aureal for reads help you reach this conclusion

[Night Lights]

Slipped

[Night Lights]

@Aureal what do your reads look like?

I townread Alianna.





(Autosuggest now completes that sentence properly for me )

Can you give me some other reads?

Draaaaaaaaaaagooooooooon

You gotta stoooooooop her

Yo was this a scum slip

[Night Lights]

What are you talking about

[Night Lights]

I could just be tired and paranoid but this whole sequence feels really weird to me

Dragon puts Aureal in a hypothetical towncore in 517 for pretty weak reasons. I don't think Aureal has earned much of a townread let alone her being placed in a towncore

I ask Aureal what her reads are in 521

Dragon says I'm town in 522 because of that?

Aureal dodges the question in 530. Fine. She does this as town, but I think she would replicate that as scum

I ask for more reads in 533 and also question Dragon's townread of me in 535

Aureal asks Dragon to stop me in 536???

Then she quickly goes back and responds to something completely unrelated from 150 posts before this in 539

And I have no clue what 542 is supposed to mean

Am I missing something?

Pedit: Ok. I guess I'm just missing something

[Night Lights]

I need sleep

[Night Lights]

I'm kinda down to speed-spare them. If they are town, we get a level of enlightenment and also a person SRing me out of the way, so it's a win-win

Relaaaax it's only a lean

I'd rather stay in the game for now

[Night Lights]

Night Lights looks really townie early on

I'm kinda down to speed-spare them. If they are town, we get a level of enlightenment and also a person SRing me out of the way, so it's a win-win.

We're not down for this cause we're pretty sure Black is scum here

-Python

BZZZZZT incorrect

[Night Lights]

I'm down for Drew but I would much rather go Alianna

[Night Lights]

Plus isn't a quick D1 almost always best for scum anyways?

It is

By default yeah
But I think Boon’s presence makes it actually work out for town’s benefit

What are you talking about

[Night Lights]

I'm down for Drew but I would much rather go Alianna

Drew is scum. I'm fairly sure. His mannerisms are off. That's the best I can explain. Why not kitty? Kitty is obvious town

You're gonna have to explain both of these reads better if you want to convince anyone

~Vibes~ ain't cutting it

[Night Lights]

Weren't you the one who claimed that optimal strategy is fading the person you are most sure is town every day? How come you don't want to be faded if FYPOV you are the likeliest to be town?

Well first of all I don't think I'm the likeliest to be town in terms of how other players perceive me. I think maybe two people townread me?

Second I think I like me and Alisae's chances of finding other townies in this group

Third I just like the setup and the playerlist and want to keep playing

[Night Lights]

Kitty is more reserved as scum. And he seems free here. I could tell from the first few posts

I don't like this read. Kitty is obvtown because he seemed carefree in RVS on page 1?

Alianna may be onto something with the Hunter/Hunted thing

[Night Lights]

Boop

Why am I scum

[Night Lights]

UNVOTE:

We're not ending the day yet

[Night Lights]

I think Gamma could be scum here

[Night Lights]

I could see it.

What do you see? I'm curious if we're mindmelding on this too

[Night Lights]

It's some stuff from her ISO yesterday that I didn't notice at the time, so if your read is based on recent stuff it's probably not.
Gamma asked why Kitty, briefly commented on the response from SC but wasn't clear about her Kitty read, said she was fine voting him after an ISO but never explained why, but somehow it's a bad question when you ask about the strength and reason for the read.

Yeah I thought that was weird. I also just think she has some questionable opinions, like thinking ending the Day early is beneficial to the town and being ok with fading a null-ish slot

[Night Lights]

Back, I actually think that this type of behavior is anti-town. We need to have wagons that can actually get somewhere to get better reads off people. And I don't even know what we're gonna get from this day phase when it's just you, me and Python arguing, and every 5 pages there's a round of people TRing Alianna. I actually think we need a flip now.

Normally I would agree with you on the wagons but I think when we're voting for townie players it's not as important? I could be wrong but I feel like in a normal setup, the wagons can create pressure and as a result we get reactions to said pressure. I do think it's helpful to see who votes with who though so that part at least is supportive of your argument

But saying we need a flip now I just do not agree with at all. The more scum talk the more likely they are to reveal themselves through contradictions and associations with other slots. The longer the Day the more they have to post

[Night Lights]

I think reducing the Day to "me, you, and Python arguing" and "people townreading Alianna" isn't fair and isn't true. There's been a lot more than that and it's only been 2 days into the game

Why has your opinion changed on ending the Day early? I'm not really buying the above as a legit reason

[Night Lights]

Alianna if you flip town which town reads are you most confident in?

I townread Alianna.

You and Night Lights. Though it kind of scares me how much I've mindmelded with Black lol.

Alianna if you flip town which town reads are you most confident in?

I townread Alianna.

You and Night Lights. Though it kind of scares me how much I've mindmelded with Black lol.

The thing making me townread Black is also the thing making me paranoid of her.
That and she's burned me twice.

I don't think we mindmelded in those games so maybe it only happens when I'm town

[Night Lights]

[Night Lights]

I think reducing the Day to "me, you, and Python arguing" and "people townreading Alianna" isn't fair and isn't true. There's been a lot more than that and it's only been 2 days into the game

Why has your opinion changed on ending the Day early? I'm not really buying the above as a legit reason

In short, both Python and I feel like we're crowding the thread, and I personally feel drained by this day phase.

Maybe you are right and we are getting more content to read off of, I just feel frustrated with how the game is going, because it feels either it's going to be a boring town sweep, or a torturous slow trudge through the day phases.

Ok. I think if you feel drained, or if you feel like you're crowding the thread, then you should just take a step back and chill for a bit. There's no point in promoting something that is anti-town just so you can re-energize yourself. If you are drained or frustrated then relax for a bit. This isn't a slow trudge. This game is actually moving pretty quickly and I feel like we've gotten a lot out of it so far

In the words of Aaron Rodgers...

[Night Lights]

Boop

Why am I scum

You kinda had a low key unreasonableness vibe when interacting with Sakura that I don't think you'd have as town

-Python

Hmm. Ok. I'd have to check the town games you've played with me to see if this is a real thought you'd have but I'm feeling pretty lazy atm

I feel like I was somewhat unreasonable in F&I but I could be wrong. Do you have an opinion on this?

[Night Lights]

Quoting Aaron Rodgers??

Black is lock scum for sure.

Would you rather me quote my Panthers? It pains me to watch this team every week

[Night Lights]

You should know by now

Nah, I don't really keep track of other player's behavior that well. I try but my memory is shit so I end up forgetting a lot

What about my Sakura read did you feel was unreasonable?

[Night Lights]

I feel like as town you tend to have a more flowy state where you push people for being scum without really being invested in it that I'm not seeing in your Sakura push, idk how to explain it

-Python

This might be true. I feel like I'm getting better at the whole town thing though. I'm evolving

[Night Lights]

[Night Lights]

I don’t see myself voting for Night Lights this game ever

Shocker!

[Night Lights]

I do wish Ali would post though

Yeah me too

This is the second time I've hydra'd, both of them with a hyper poster (was with Shea last time), and both times they just... didn't post

[Night Lights]

Whatever. Probably just gonna lurk for awhile

[Night Lights]

I am BUSY I will get to this when I get to it

[Night Lights]

ok hi i have 4 townreads, those being Hu Tao, Alianna, Drew, and Roden.
Let's end the day.

[Night Lights]

VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today

[Night Lights]

VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today

You have a stronger read on him?

They are both my top townreads. I just have a slight paranoia about Alianna being townread by pretty much everyone

I'm down for either and it'll probably be Alianna since people seem to have mixed feelings about Drew, but my gut would rather go Drew first

[Night Lights]

VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today

You have a stronger read on him?

They are both my top townreads. I just have a slight paranoia about Alianna being townread by pretty much everyone

I'm down for either and it'll probably be Alianna since people seem to have mixed feelings about Drew, but my gut would rather go Drew first

I townread Alianna.
Wasn't I a UTR in the first game we played? The one where you brutally murdered me N1?
Also, what's your reasoning on Drew? I got town vibes off that one post I quoted but not enough to vote him yet.

Alisae and I both townread him tonally. I just think he feels really casual and uninformed

[Night Lights]

VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today

Never

Join me on Alianna then

VOTE: Alianna

[Night Lights]

I'm curious why Black townreads you that strongly because I'm not that confident on you myself but could be persuaded.

It's strong in comparison to the rest of the playerlist but I wouldn't say he's locktown. I don't think I'll be able to persuade you if you're not feeling it yourself

[Night Lights]

I kinda want to hear more from T3 before we end the day

[Night Lights]

I'm conflicted on the Gamma slot and I think he'll help me sort those feelings out

[Night Lights]

UNVOTE:

Sorry Alisae we're giving it a bit more time

[Night Lights]

Not worried, just surprised because Black's vote on you felt like it came out of the blue and there wasn't really a reason given for it.

I think this is fair. It was a product of a discord conversation and some paranoia so it makes sense that it caught you off guard a little

[Night Lights]

I like that Drew is experiencing some of that paranoia too

[Night Lights]

I like that Drew is experiencing some of that paranoia too

We might as well be a three-headed hydra at this point.

I would LOVE to hydra with you sometime. Can we please?

[Night Lights]

[Night Lights]

Alianna I know you decided Hunter/Hunted is unlikely but now I can't stop thinking about it

ngl, go off me please. I'm town but sparing me so early in the day is suboptimal, people need to talk first.

Honestly I'd rather *not* be spared day 1 but rather someone I think is solidly town like SC. I play better D2 on.

This made me realize I forgor about my reads list. Coming soon.

[Night Lights]

ok boomers

[Night Lights]

Night Lights looks really townie early on

I've skimmed to page 10

HURT: Night Lights

Pretty strong scumread here

[Night Lights]

I like Roden

I'm down to never flip the T3 slot

[Night Lights]

I like Roden

I'm down to never flip the T3 slot

Same.

I'm down for a Nights/Roden/SC towncore.

VOTE:

Alisae

We're going Alianna today

And python your read on me is wrong. You should listen to Dragon more

[Night Lights]

I went Alianna and then you unvoted

You also need to quit bullying me, Black

Let's hear more from our replacements before we fade anyone yeah?

[Night Lights]

Halfway through my reskim of the game, making a reads list.

Are you checking it twice or what?

[Night Lights]

I've skimmed to page 10

HURT: Night Lights

Pretty strong scumread here

HURT: Hu Tao too

Are you going to explain these reads or what

[Night Lights]

Thread's losing momentum, can we just flip the universal townread already?

-Python

The thread doesn't always have to be going at a mile a minute. Relax

I want to hear more from T3 and Roden

[Night Lights]

Python why are you not interested in the opinions of two slots that are trying to read the game

[Night Lights]

Like if you are town then please run me through your thought process of wanting to end the Day before they catch up and share reads?

[Night Lights]

I just think town!you would be more interested in hearing their opinions and less interested in people losing interest in the game (why is that so many interest's)

The interest can always come back. The time we lose by ending the Day 8 IRL days early can't

[Night Lights]

Like if you are town then please run me through your thought process of wanting to end the Day before they catch up and share reads?

Because nothing will change except people get bored.

Wdym nothing will change? We should hear the opinions of all the players. If they are scum then we force them to give reads and thoughts about people. If they are town then we can use their reads and thoughts later when they flip

I just don't understand the logic of wanting to end the day before two people have shared their thoughts. It's an anti-town thought process

[Night Lights]

I just think town!you would be more interested in hearing their opinions and less interested in people losing interest in the game (why is that so many interest's)

The interest can always come back. The time we lose by ending the Day 8 IRL days early can't

Nah, people losing interest is a death spiral cause what happens is people start replacing out and the game goes to shit because of it. Also deadline is in 4 days not 8

-Python

Oh facts, I did miss that

[Night Lights]

I've posted my reads and T3 kind of posted his reads

I didn't realize you were caught up so I'll give you that, but I want to hear more from T3 other than his unexplained reads up to page 10

[Night Lights]

It's a weird assumption that people will replace out because they are bored. I've never seen that once on this site

[Night Lights]

Like if you are town then please run me through your thought process of wanting to end the Day before they catch up and share reads?

Because nothing will change except people get bored.

Wdym nothing will change? We should hear the opinions of all the players. If they are scum then we force them to give reads and thoughts about people. If they are town then we can use their reads and thoughts later when they flip

I just don't understand the logic of wanting to end the day before two people have shared their thoughts. It's an anti-town thought process

We don't need to find scum, we need to find 3 townies. Letting the game replacementspiral is worse for town than maybe missing someone who wasn't even a candidate for getting limmed post something kinda scummy

-Python

This argument sucks. If we find scum then that makes it even easier to secure three townies

We wait for T3 to talk. I think his slot has a decent chance of being scum and I want him to say more stuff

[Night Lights]

Ya'll are frustrating

VOTE: Alianna

[Night Lights]

I hope your short attention spans enjoy the Night phase

[Night Lights]

[Night Lights]

Ya'll are frustrating

VOTE: Alianna

Awww, I was arguing with Python.

Don't worry though, I'll be throwing a pokeball at you next, you're towning it up too much

So it looks like Aureal targeted Black with the action?

Most likely, yeah.

VOTE: Night Lights

I don't intend to rush the day but it's pretty clear that they're conftown.

Why do you think we're conftown?

[Night Lights]

And yeah I'm pretty disappointed about the Alianna thing. Feels demoralizing

I'm hoping Alisae can take the reigns today

[Night Lights]

I townread Alianna.

-Python

I townread Alianna.

I townread Alianna.

I townread Alianna.

-Python

Pagetop get.

I townread Alianna.

It's like I have a cult dedicated to me.

There's at least 1 scum here ngl. And it's not SC.

And not NL.

I'm not really sure why people TRed Alianna so hard.

Uhh, that leaves no one

[Night Lights]

Ya'll are frustrating

VOTE: Alianna

Awww, I was arguing with Python.

Don't worry though, I'll be throwing a pokeball at you next, you're towning it up too much

So it looks like Aureal targeted Black with the action?

Most likely, yeah.

VOTE: Night Lights

I don't intend to rush the day but it's pretty clear that they're conftown.

Why do you think we're conftown?

The alternative is that scum targeted Aureal and she didn't protect you. I don't really know why they would when more people town read you over her.

There is a universe where scum!you saw the PR soft and gambitted your kill by targeting Aureal, but that means the top town reads were both scum and I don't think that's particularly likely.

Scum could have killed her while she targeted me

And I don't really think I was an obvious NK or anything. T3 and Python are both suspicious of me. I think Hu Tao might be too but I can't remember

You're right about me but I just don't think it's conftown status or anything