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[davesaz]

VOTE: Greeting

[davesaz]

VOTE: Political Clout

[davesaz]

What's making you choose PC, Dave?

PC's vote.

[davesaz]

What's making you choose PC, Dave?

PC's vote.

Why do you think it’s alignment indicative?

I don't. It's early enough in the game that I can be the old guy being grumpy about a self vote.

[davesaz]

What do you think about self-voting in the game in general?

Strongly dislike in general. There may be very limited cases where it actually furthers one's wincon, but for the most part it doesn't.

[davesaz]

Come now, it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow to everyone's townie standards at once.

Umm, are you saying you're mafia?

[davesaz]

What do you think about self-voting in the game in general?

Strongly dislike in general. There may be very limited cases where it actually furthers one's wincon, but for the most part it doesn't.

What's your thoughts on PC disregarding the self-vote?

Insufficient data.

[davesaz]

Come now, it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow to everyone's townie standards at once.

Umm, are you saying you're mafia?

That's a bit of a stretch.

Is it a stretch? Here's the whole post for more context.

VOTE:

VOTE: yessiree

I agree that this inconsistency from him is very strange.

What inconsistency

You say you want to get some wagons going, and you’re willing to attempt starting a wagon on someone because they won’t feed into that, but you also say you don’t expect current votes to mean much of anything since we’re still in the feel-it-out phase? Those two don’t really go together, why vote people and start wagons when they won’t mean anything yet

You also say in the same post that you won’t share what you’re looking for in a wagon/what your standards for voting are, which is scummy behavior in its own right imo

I see, but you're confusing two things here. I said I'm not expecting votes to be well justified at this stage because I saw people were putting too much emphasis on this. That's not the same as having no reads at all which is Hu's case, and kinda why I was poking at her.

And I think it's pretty self-explanatory I'm obviously not telling y'all what I consider are scummy behaviours so you can do the towny thing instead the scummy thing

I've never gotten the appeal behind using votes to "poke" people personally. Let them get up to speed on their own. At the time Hu said they had no reads, I also happened to not have any reads yet

Come now, it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow to everyone's townie standards at once. I think all of us here are different enough in what we look for in order for that to be the case, so honesty is almost certainly the best policy. Personally, I think the towniest thing someone can do is defend a person who's currently unpopular with a well-reasoned argument

Who are you referring to when you say it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow? Why use "mafia" there and not "town" or "players"?
I don't generally agree with the notion of "slips", but this feels like there is a subtle mafia point of view aspect to the post.

[davesaz]

The hider stuff was hiding in plain sight. I normally notice things like that (though did not this time), and I think the best way to handle it if you do see it is to

not mention it

. It's certainly not rolefishing to crumb something, and calling it that is kinda sus. All of this now merits a close re-read, which won't happen right now. I had a

really

unusual weekend and a much busier than normal work Monday. I'm only just caught up and quite out of touch.

[davesaz]

Hello everyone

also VOTE: Brian Skies

sorry, RNG told me you were scum. Don't make the rules

just tried it 2 more times and got Random Nurse and Blackstar.

Game is solved, you can thank me later.

Interesting, I think there is a subtext in these posts. I think PC may have thought the same thing.

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i mean, my comment was more stating that titus' reason wasn't valid so not sure why you're quoting me

That's not at all how it reads to anyone.

It read that way to me, and I might have made a similar post if I had been here in that moment.

[davesaz]

ITT everyone is gaslighting me.

What do you think that term means, and how does it apply to "everyone"?

[davesaz]

ITT everyone is gaslighting me.

What do you think that term means, and how does it apply to "everyone"?

Where are you going with this?

Finding out what, or who, you think is gaslighting.

[davesaz]

If this is t v t, greeting shoots up my scum pile

Gonna say why while I'm on this page and then see if you already answered later.

[davesaz]

Nothing weird about 163.

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Who are you referring to when you say it's not realistic for mafia to kowtow?

[davesaz]

what

both but to your question titus

what a weird thing to double down on...you ok?

hardly his fault when you're mysterious like the dark side of the moon

?

Literally was quite explicit as to the meaning.

A comma after both in PC's post would have helped. I saw 446 without remembering what PC was replying to earlier, and the embedded quote didn't parse without the context.
Didn't realize until I previewed that 446 was followup to the question that prompted PC's reply.
Hmm, maybe I didn't understand what the issue was, but I don't want to abandon this so I'll go ahead and post it.

[davesaz]

I haven't had enough time to form strong reads. Maybe I'll be more successful overnight.
In the meantime if push comes to shove I suppose I'm willing to shove.

VOTE: Greeting

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