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[Brian Skies]

Good morning fellow townies!

[Brian Skies]

That's funny. The person I stole it from was also scum.

[Brian Skies]

Your logic is infallible.

[Brian Skies]

I am also V/LA until Monday.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Political Clout

[Brian Skies]

So, what, you're wanting some wagons to develop?

Sounds a bit suss to me.

Wagons are a valuable tool for hunting scum.

yessiree seems town to me.

[Brian Skies]

I'm still fixated on this plate of food it pisses me off.

Why are there black things on our plate now?

[Brian Skies]

I think Dave and Straightflush are both probably town.

[Brian Skies]

I'm still fixated on this plate of food it pisses me off.

Why are there black things on our plate now?

I'm feeling more confident on my read here.

I'm curious how my observation of the flavor of this game has anything to do with your read on me.

[Brian Skies]

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

[Brian Skies]

Generate more alignment indicative content.

[Brian Skies]

I'm not really convinced your vote on me is anything other than OMGUS.

[Brian Skies]

I voted you because unlike what smileydude things, I do not think posts like 45 and 50 are indicators of town behavior. In fact, those posts are pro-scum as you're blatantly rolefishing. And you're covering it up by a thin veil of "oh don't mind me, I'm just scum, JK, teehee."

Read my post again. I never said I don't scumhunt. Generating content isn't my forte. I'm the type that will reread the game several times at different angles.

As far as me not having much to say, it's because the game has been terribly droll so far. And the best tool for early content and scumhunting, which is wagon analysis, was argued as scummy by another player.

[Brian Skies]

Yes, I was also trying to make a wagon.

On someone I thought was potentially scum.

The existence of one does not invalidate the other.

[Brian Skies]

We can never know if that's true since you never said why you were voting me when you voted me.

True story. People can always ask why a vote was cast.

[Brian Skies]

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

You try to appease me here

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

I eagerly await your analyzer skills then.

It doesn't work

Generate more alignment indicative content.

You become aggressive

Then go for the PC did omgus for the discredit.

You should consider a job at narration.

[Brian Skies]

What is PC?

[Brian Skies]

What makes you think that was antagonistic?

[Brian Skies]

Use your imagination.

[Brian Skies]

I'm not even angry.

Sounds more like PC upset after trying to pick a target that seemed like LHF, only to find nothing they have sticks.

[Brian Skies]

You're the one that keeps trying to push baseless arguments.

[Brian Skies]

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

I eagerly await your analyzer skills then.

Sarcasm/antagonism.

I voted you because unlike what smileydude things, I do not think posts like 45 and 50 are indicators of town behavior. In fact, those posts are pro-scum as you're blatantly rolefishing. And you're covering it up by a thin veil of "oh don't mind me, I'm just scum, JK, teehee."

Read my post again. I never said I don't scumhunt. Generating content isn't my forte. I'm the type that will reread the game several times at different angles.

As far as me not having much to say, it's because the game has been terribly droll so far. And the best tool for early content and scumhunting, which is wagon analysis, was argued as scummy by another player.

We can never know if that's true since you never said why you were voting me when you voted me. Dave said why a while later it can only be inferred why you decided to vote me.

Attempt to handwave reasoning to scumread you.

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

You try to appease me here

Sure, I see myself more as an analyzer than a scum hunter.

I eagerly await your analyzer skills then.

It doesn't work

Generate more alignment indicative content.

You become aggressive

Then go for the PC did omgus for the discredit.

Attempt to narrate play to seem like you have the high ground in the argument.

Yes, I was also trying to make a wagon.

On someone I thought was potentially scum.

The existence of one does not invalidate the other.

Okay. Weird that you never say PC and scum in the same sentence until now.

I don't even know the point of this post. We both know what we're talking about, so why do I have to spell it out?

Use your imagination.

Yeah this is just scum angry at being caught so soon.

Upset at running into a deadend?

[Brian Skies]

Wow, narrating is fun.

[Brian Skies]

You still haven't addressed the blatant rolefishing.

[Brian Skies]

Some questions for you Brian

I voted you because unlike what smileydude things, I do not think posts like 45 and 50 are indicators of town behavior. In fact, those posts are pro-scum as you're blatantly rolefishing. And you're covering it up by a thin veil of "oh don't mind me, I'm just scum, JK, teehee."

Read my post again. I never said I don't scumhunt. Generating content isn't my forte. I'm the type that will reread the game several times at different angles.

As far as me not having much to say, it's because the game has been terribly droll so far. And the best tool for early content and scumhunting, which is wagon analysis, was argued as scummy by another player.

If you thought PC's early posts were indicative of scum rolefishing, why did they only come up here instead of when you originally voted them. At what point would you say you reached that conclusion?

I feel as though those posts are pretty obviously rolefishing and that I shouldn't have to point them out. Like I said before, people are free to question votes.

Nobody really joined the PC wagon, so I mostly assumed people were fine with those posts (especially you considering you said you liked those posts).

Generate more alignment indicative content.

Also, why say this if you already had reason to believe in scum!PC due to them rolefishing?

This was directed more towards the town collective than PC specifically.

[Brian Skies]

You're all over the place right now, your response to Smiley seems to confirm that you're making up reasons to hound PC as you go along.

How so?

[Brian Skies]

You don't need to speed read. It's only been 9 pages.

[Brian Skies]

You're all over the place right now, your response to Smiley seems to confirm that you're making up reasons to hound PC as you go along.

How so?

A lot of your responses to PC's individual comments have been needlessly antagonistic, especially in the last page and a half, and it feeds into my earlier concern about worst-faith readings of each other. Smiley brings up a good point about it being weird that the rolefishing stuff is only just coming up now, and the "analyzer" business you discussed was not at all consistent with your earlier posting in the thread, making it seem like something you made up on the spot to deflect PC's criticism. You also say that nobody really jumped on the PC wagon so you didn't push it, but multiple people besides you/PC voted him around that time so I certainly don't buy that.

In general you come off as someone who isn't properly showing their thought processes, and you play it off by suggesting we should all just know what you're thinking. That's not a super healthy dynamic to bring to the thread, and it feels anti-town.

What are you even talking about the rolefishing stuff 'only coming up now'? It's been two days and only 9 pages into the game. To say something from the early game is suddenly 'whoa, that's from so long ago, why is it suddenly a concern' is preposterous.

The people who jumped on the wagon were Dave and yessiree. I was hoping they saw the same thing I did, but neither of them voted for the same reason I did.

And no one jumped on after me.

By people jumping onto the wagon, I mean for the rolefishing. Which is what we were talking about. And we even had people say they liked the 'rolefishing' posts with no real rebuttal, which, once again, makes me think people were mostly okay with those posts.

I didn't say you should all know what I'm thinking. I even said people can ask. But there hasn't been much for me to comment on, because I don't find a lot of the discussion or what's happened alignment indicative.

What do you mean by worst-faith readings of each other?

[Brian Skies]

I'm not saying "woah, that's from so long ago" about anything, that's disingenuous. The point is that it should've been discussed earlier instead of getting dredged up during a separate spat. Am I used to faster games where D1 would be done by now? Yes. Is that really coming into play here? No.

That's a silly perspective to have about the wagon. People can be on the same wagon with different reasons for it. Just because you were the last one aboard before it fizzled out doesn't mean it was a non-starter.

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By worst-faith I mean that if I put myself in your shoes whilst talking with PC, I would probably be less standoffish, regardless of how suspicious I'd be about PC's thread behavior. I would have to make a conscious effort to react the way you reacted to his retorts, which makes me read it as contrived and anti-town.

Then what is your point about it being brought up now rather than later? Could it have been brought up earlier? Perhaps. But I was on V/LA (still am actually) and no one else seemed interested in the topic otherwise we would have had a discussion there already (see smiley for having brought up the topic before me).

I never called the wagon a non-starter.

Okay. Put yourself in my shoes then. Tell me how you would've handled his continuous attempts at attempted to paint me as scummy until something sticks.

[Brian Skies]

Spoiler: hider soft for prosperity

are you

hiding

something smileyman?

Eh, just engaging in some light-hearted banter tis all.

I think I believe you maybe tbd. but are you

hiding

something?

it was yeah.

why? trying to be my fren? or trying to be anyones fren? or trying to be everyone's fren?

Would you consider it scummy if I was trying to do the above though. If so, why?

I would think you are

hiding

a pr. your entrance suggests eagerness your consecutives posts suggests stealth and trying to blend in. Your deflection suggests slight annoyance at me.

Let's say this were the case. Why hide crumbs in a rolefish?

[Brian Skies]

Also, why crumb hider at all?

[Brian Skies]

Okay, why claim hider on page 2?

[Brian Skies]

I don't like to be one to tell others how to play their roles. But in my mind, hiders are supposed to crumb targets so that if they die, we can go back and figure out their trail of targets. Not expose themselves to the scumteam so that when the hider targets town, scum get a two-for-one special.

[Brian Skies]

Is weak variation not the normal version of hider?

[Brian Skies]

1.5

The "black things'' are pepper for you uncultured swines out there

I believe the mod just called me uncultured for being unable to identify pepper.

[Brian Skies]

I find it interesting all of the people that are voting me are people I don't know. All the people that have experience with me aren't voting me.

There's not really anything I can glean from this alignment-wise. It's just an observation I wanted to point out.

[Brian Skies]

Also, Titus, this is my second game back if that makes a difference for you.

[Brian Skies]

Okay, you'd be in the pile of people that don't know me anyway. So I don't really see how meta would help you to begin with. Not that it matters.

[Brian Skies]

I actually agree with that.

[Brian Skies]

Nope. They're all not voting me for ??? reasons. And I just thought it was interesting. I didn't think they'd all be off my wagon. Although Titus seems like the only reason she isn't voting me is because she thinks it's my first game back.

[Brian Skies]

Ah yes, because me saying "i am town" over and over again would be so useful for convincing people that I'm town

Don't knock it till you try it.

[Brian Skies]

Brian went back into hiding after coming out of vla to thunderdome with me.

I'm actually keeping up with the game. Just not a lot of stuff that interests me.

Except the part about you being the scum counterwagon. Which if true, then scum have decided they'd rather let me live, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

[Brian Skies]

they hard town read brian not from meta but from what I perceive as a rule of thumb on what scum might do I don't buy it.

I feel like I missed this rule of thumb.

[Brian Skies]

The PC wagon is literally all the people I know.

I'm dying right now.

[Brian Skies]

You say this after being party to the single biggest confrontation of the game so far, and while you're two votes away from hammer. The lack of self-awareness here is astounding.

Is it lack of self awareness or lack of something else entirely? Because the E-2 situation isn't anything new since the last time I checked in.

[Brian Skies]

Random Nurse not taking PC bait last time he was around makes me lean town on him.

[Brian Skies]

I'm going to be honest, I don't know why the people who are voting PC are voting him over me. Which makes things difficult to evaluate.

If we want to believe PC crumbed (instead of rolefished), then he should be the less desirable elimination choice. I do know Titus doesn't really believe the crumbs though.

[Brian Skies]

I think smiley, blackstar, and greeting could all be town. kayjay as well, but she's still fairly up in the air.

[Brian Skies]

My scum game is actually not that bad. I just never roll it.

[Brian Skies]

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

What's the connection between these two?

[Brian Skies]

Brian, can I have you go deeper into your thoughts on PC. Was wondering what you were seeing there besides the rolefishing?

It's mostly the rolefishing and the way they handled our 1v1.In our engagement, it seemed as though they were just trying to paint a target red rather than actual sorting.

[Brian Skies]

Come now, we all know I'm the open-wolf here.

[Brian Skies]

I could be wrong, but I'd say the Random Nurse wagon has had the most resistance.

[Brian Skies]

Exactly.

[Brian Skies]

I still think Greeting is town, so I won't be joining that wagon.

[Brian Skies]

I feel better about straightflush today.

[Brian Skies]

I think in a town PC world, scum may have targeted smiley thinking PC would hide there.

[Brian Skies]

I acknowledge the poor hammer from yessiree, but am not convinced this makes him scum.

[Brian Skies]

Brian did WORK climbing that reads list!

It surprised me as well.

[Brian Skies]

I don't really trust Titus that much and don't think she's done anything that couldn't be faked.

[Brian Skies]

I feel like I may sheep someone today. I'm having trouble seeing people as scummy.

Also, my posting will be limited the next two days.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Titus

I'm not a huge fan of Titus' OMGUS on the recent page. I'm also not a huge fan of StraightFlush's townread on Titus and have slight concerns they could be linked.

[Brian Skies]

I'm also not a huge fan of StraightFlush's townread on Titus and have slight concerns they could be linked.

Honestly surprised it took this long for someone to suggest that. Maybe we are both linked as townies

Could also be possible.

[Brian Skies]

I would prefer StraightFlush to yessiree, but it's not really something I'm excited about.

[Brian Skies]

Straightflush Blackstar +1

I don’t want to misinterpret, what did you mean here?

I'm guessing she means the scumteam is StraightFlush, Blackstar, and one more person.

[Brian Skies]

From my experience, replacements who avoid reading the game tend to be scum.

[Brian Skies]

I'm compromising my vote.

VOTE: StraightFlush

[Brian Skies]

It's good to see this day phase hasn't passed me by as well.

yessiree being scum is a big disappointment for me reads wise, but I suppose me not being there yesterday was beneficial in that I couldn't be a distraction from the wagon.

The two remaining players from my wagon day 1 are blackstar and kayjay, and I'm inclined to believe they are both town. I have a sneaking suspicion my wagon was all-town and that PC was the scum-counterwagon to me.

This leaves me with PenguinPower and Titus from the PC wagon on Day 1. Titus I'm already suspicious of, and I suppose PenguinPower could be scum. But I don't think both can be scum together, as that would mean all three scum were voting PC.

The off-wagon votes (from from Day 1 PC and BS wagons) are Hu Tao and Random Nurse. Hu Tao could be argued as an early busser of yessiree, but probably not. Random Nurse was mostly inactive and avoided both wagons. Between the two, I'm more inclined to believe the Random Nurse slot to be scum.

PenguinPower, Titus, and Enchant slot (aka Random Nurse slot) were also on the StraightFlush (town) elimination instead of the Day 2 yessiree (scum) wagon. This makes me believe the remaining two scum are within those three.

Titus and Enchant were also on the backend of the yessiree elimination, which makes me think one of the two could have been bussing. Of the two, I think the Enchant slot is scummier. And Enchant hammered scum without a claim, which reflects poorly in my eyes as I feel a scumbuddy would feel more comfortable to do so. I believe PenguinPower was also claiming intent, so we can lump him in as a potential late busser as well.

PenguinPower and Titus have a tendency to be on the same wagon, which makes me think they're not together. And the end of Day 3 where Penguin asks for a claim and Enchant just hammers also makes me think those two are not together.

So if I had to pick two for the scumteam, I'd probably go with Enchant and Titus.

[Brian Skies]

I thought PC wasn't vanilla.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[Brian Skies]

I don't feel like it was rushed.

Penguin botched his claim and had a terrible reaction after the fact. And the slot was getting replaced. I thought there was a decent chance it was scum and was ready to eliminate it.

[Brian Skies]

I believe this is just a difference in opinion. I thought his anger was out-of-place. I was wrong. I'm not going to apologize for it.

[Brian Skies]

We should claim after Titus does for what I hope are obvious reasons.

[Brian Skies]

I do think we should claim today though.

[Brian Skies]

I'm VT.

[Brian Skies]

I thought this was a slamdunk elimination, but the Blackstar-Penguin discrepancy makes me think otherwise.

I'll think on it later. :3

[Brian Skies]

There's nothing that says Penguin had to have been blocked by a town blocking role.

[Brian Skies]

I think we should finish the massclaim at least.

[Brian Skies]

Titus, Enchant (who is confirmed vanilla by Penguin), and me.

[Brian Skies]

I'll answer your question with another question: Do we believe scum nk'ed?

[Brian Skies]

By saying they did NOT nk, are you saying they didn't night kill? Just asking since nk can be interpreted as no-kill.

[Brian Skies]

Titus, Enchant (who is confirmed vanilla by Penguin), and me.

Also, Enchant is confirmed vanilla, not confirmed town.

That is what I said.

[Brian Skies]

I suppose the mass claim isn't too important today since no-elim is always an option.

[Brian Skies]

A confirmed role that confirms a townie and counters a claim on the table.

This is promising.

[Brian Skies]

It's not confirmed Penguin was blocked, just that he didn't get a result.

[Brian Skies]

And you're not even claiming to have blocked Penguin.

[Brian Skies]

It's not confirmed Penguin was blocked, just that he didn't get a result.

Isn't that the same thing?

There are more than one way for Penguin to get a No Result. Rolestopper is one of them.

Between the two of you, Hu Tao is confirmed to exist (or most likely to exist since no one has counter-claimed her on that result). You are not confirmed.

[Brian Skies]

Is there any reason the roleblocker and rolestopper can't exist together?

[Brian Skies]

Spoiler:

1.10

Sorry for the recent lack of flavor, life events have been happening

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greeting (7) :

Titus / StraightFlush / BlackStar / PenguinPower / Davesaz / SmileyDude1 / yessiree

Political Clout (1) :

Brian Skies

Brian Skies (1) :

Political Clout

Random Nurse (1) :

Greeting

StraightFlush (1) :

Hu Tao

Titus (1) :

KayJayQueue

Not Voting (1) :

Random Nurse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone, day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-25 13:02:46)

2.5

I really need to get better a doing flavor like wow i'm so bad at this

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StraightFlush (6) :

BlackStar / PenguinPower / yessiree / Titus / Brian Skies / Enchant

[Execution !]

yessiree (3)

Hu Tao / Political Clout / KayJayQueue

Titus (1) :

JacksonVirgo

Enchant (1) :

StraightFlush

Not Voting (0) :

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to execute someone, day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-04-04 04:20:49)

3.2

yessiree (5) :

KayJayQueue / Political Clout / Hu Tao / Titus / Enchant

Execution !

Enchant (1) :

yessiree

Not Voting (3) :

PenguinPower / BlackStar / Brian Skies

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute someone, day 3 ends in (expired on 2024-04-13 06:25:46)

4.3

PenguinPower (4) :

KayJayQueue / Hu Tao / Enchant / Brian Skies

[Execution !]

Hu Tao (1) :

Blackstar

Enchant (1) :

Titus

KayJayQueue (1) :

PenguinPower

Not Voting (0) :

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to execute someone, day 4 ends in (expired on 2024-04-16 06:09:28)

As far as final votes go, Blackstar started off on two town eliminations before being off the yessiree elimination. He was off the Penguin elimination, but overall his voting history does not look as good as Hu Tao's.

Hu Tao, on the other hand, was off both the first two town eliminations and on the yessiree elimination. They were also on the Penguin elimination, but considering the speed of the elimination after Penguin's claim, it's hard to say what she would have done if given the chance to respond after the claim. One could also argue Hu Tao went for the long bus on Yessiree. On day two, yessiree was a consistent vote that she chose over straightflush, who she had been voting at end of Day 1. This makes me feel better about her vote there and not as worried about bussing. She also did not tend to chase wagons, typically voting by herself or at the front of a wagon (first or second). This voting pattern makes me think she didn't want too much attention (I could be wrong here), and falls in line with her playing like a protective role.

So as far as voting goes, I'm leaning toward Hu Tao-town.

[Brian Skies]

Titus iso is so sparse, I'm confounded that anyone can have a confident townread there. But alas, here we are, trying to figure out if she's town or scum.

Spoiler:

Not really interested in limming bs day 1 on his first game back in ages.

The amount of people saying straightfish could be linked with someone makes me think straightfush is scum.

It's good to see this day phase hasn't passed me by as well.

yessiree being scum is a big disappointment for me reads wise, but I suppose me not being there yesterday was beneficial in that I couldn't be a distraction from the wagon.

The two remaining players from my wagon day 1 are blackstar and kayjay, and I'm inclined to believe they are both town. I have a sneaking suspicion my wagon was all-town and that PC was the scum-counterwagon to me.

This leaves me with PenguinPower and Titus from the PC wagon on Day 1. Titus I'm already suspicious of, and I suppose PenguinPower could be scum. But I don't think both can be scum together, as that would mean all three scum were voting PC.

The off-wagon votes (from from Day 1 PC and BS wagons) are Hu Tao and Random Nurse. Hu Tao could be argued as an early busser of yessiree, but probably not. Random Nurse was mostly inactive and avoided both wagons. Between the two, I'm more inclined to believe the Random Nurse slot to be scum.

PenguinPower, Titus, and Enchant slot (aka Random Nurse slot) were also on the StraightFlush (town) elimination instead of the Day 2 yessiree (scum) wagon. This makes me believe the remaining two scum are within those three.

Titus and Enchant were also on the backend of the yessiree elimination, which makes me think one of the two could have been bussing. Of the two, I think the Enchant slot is scummier. And Enchant hammered scum without a claim, which reflects poorly in my eyes as I feel a scumbuddy would feel more comfortable to do so. I believe PenguinPower was also claiming intent, so we can lump him in as a potential late busser as well.

PenguinPower and Titus have a tendency to be on the same wagon, which makes me think they're not together. And the end of Day 3 where Penguin asks for a claim and Enchant just hammers also makes me think those two are not together.

So if I had to pick two for the scumteam, I'd probably go with Enchant and Titus.

VOTE: Random Nurse

Random bs penguin that order

282 made me wrinkle my nose as I thought it was a weak reason to not eliminate me on Day 1. She did say she leaned town on me, although I'm not sure if this was legitimate or early buddying.

Early Day 2, she started voting yessiree before stating 838 and voting straightflush. Seems reasonable to vote StraightFlush there. Perhaps town influenced by groupthink? Does return to voting yessiree next day.

I made a vca post grouping Titus and Enchant. Titus responds by declaring we should eliminate Enchant then me then Penguin. For some reason I don't get this as serious and more of a bluff. At the time, I could see this being made by scum-Titus if Enchant were scum too (eliminate partner, then the two mislims needed for a win). But knowing that Titus has to be paired with Hu Tao if scum, this makes less sense as a scum post.

It's not strong by any means, but I can see a world where Titus is town here.

[Brian Skies]

My biggest issue right now pertains to the yessiree wagon. If Hu Tao and Titus are both town, then Kay and Enchant are the only potential bussers there.

[Brian Skies]

I wouldn't hold that against you. Three of us here are guilty of thinking the same thing.

[Brian Skies]

Blackstar being scum would mean there was scum on my wagon Day 1.

[Brian Skies]

I'm just gonna go with my reads.

VOTE: Titus

[Brian Skies]

If you're talking about me, then yes, I suppose it can be interpreted that way.

[Brian Skies]

UNVOTE: Titus

[Brian Skies]

Play in enough end games and you'll get over being a burden.

[Brian Skies]

Blackstar can't eliminate Dannflor without Enchant's vote, so I suppose we're eliminating Blackstar.

[Brian Skies]

Dannflor's setup spec is close to what I had in mind, but others were adamant about there being 2 scum pr's.

I personally do not think a Vanilla Cop and a Town Reporter are that strong.

[Brian Skies]

I voted Titus because if Titus/Hu Tao were town, then it would mean a BlackStar/Kay scumteam. I've been townreading Kay for most of this game, so I thought it was more likely for it to just be Titus/HuTao scumteam.

[Brian Skies]

Are we going to assume Enchant is confirmed VT here or what?

[Brian Skies]

Why do you think it could be BlackStar/Titus? I don't think Titus can be scum with anyone other than Hu Tao.

[Brian Skies]

After reading some of Enchant's posts, I feel ready to vote BlackStar.

Just holding off in case anyone wants the discussion to continue.

[Brian Skies]

I think it's Brian. Like 95% sure

5% isn't bad. I'll take it.

[Brian Skies]

I will wait for Hu Tao before voting.

[Brian Skies]

If Hu Tao is town, then she will probably be night-killed. So why not give her another chance to say what she needs to.

If Hu Tao is scum, it doesn't really matter what she wants to say because the game will end.

I am currently moving forward with the hopes Hu Tao is town. So I am giving her the chance to say what she needs to.

[Brian Skies]

Pretty sure there are three votes on BlackStar.

[Brian Skies]

Disregard, only one vote on BlackStar.

[Brian Skies]

Idk what's going on.

[Brian Skies]

I feel this is pretty much a 50/50 between me and Kay. A no elim will pretty much just remove Dann. I feel the extra player could be helpful today, unless you just want to have the final say on the elimination.

[Brian Skies]

By PoE, yes.

[Brian Skies]

Despite having 4 power roles, I did not think town had a lot of power in this game and can understand why you would want to put 3 goons. However, the number of power roles town had naturally makes one think mafia has as least one power role, even if it's a weak one. But this is all just my opinion.

I noticed the vote tracker, but I did not utilize it.

Kay, I wouldn't beat yourself up over this game. You were the most resistant to the idea of Enchant being cleared. And I probably would've screwed up in your place. This was also not a good game for me and I can understand if you just thought I was scummy.

[Brian Skies]

You were my strongest townread this game. But the setup discussion also made it impossible for me to think it was Enchant.