Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[JupiterXV]

it's 1 am for me right now lol
VOTE: fireisredsir for rolling scum without me

[JupiterXV]

i just woke up

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i'm pretty sure black is a color

[JupiterXV]

i'm pretty sure black is a color

colour is variation in the spectrum of reflected light. black is the absence of light. scum caught in their lies already smh.

its a color to me

[JupiterXV]

It functions like one but technically it's the absence of all colors which pretty accurately describes my soul

LMAOOO

[JupiterXV]

halfasleep do you have any prior experience playing mafia

[JupiterXV]

stealing this from jupiter

what the fuck is wrong with you

[JupiterXV]

I am here to mention to the entire thread that only wimpy beta male fire is red, and the real gigachad flames are actually blue. VOTE: fireisredsir for being red.

ok ming

[JupiterXV]

stealing this from jupiter

what the fuck is wrong with you

i spent 20 minutes making a gif to put here and giphy isn't cooperating with me so i guess no gif to put here i'll post later with the gif if it FUCKING laods

[JupiterXV]

Spoiler: eyestrain warning

nvm i got it to work lol

[JupiterXV]

ive not gotten a single pagetop yet. argh

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

[JupiterXV]

i voted jupiter in 76

^

[JupiterXV]

gamers do yall think jake voting purple is scum-motivated or not

[JupiterXV]

jake don't answer this question
you can but i'd recommend you dont

[JupiterXV]

yeah I was a little confused about that

[JupiterXV]

jake town btw

[JupiterXV]

what’s third vote scum theorem btw

[JupiterXV]

oh wait

[JupiterXV]

Pagetop

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oops
anyway jupiter is scum

BOOOOO tomato tomato tomato
AFTER ALL WE'VE GONE THROUGH..... our brotherhood.... was all our camaraderie for naught.....

[JupiterXV]

top ten anime betrayals..... ming you cant be doing this to me......

[JupiterXV]

stop ateing

no

[JupiterXV]

wait ming is your sr on me fr because i assumed you were joking

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: JupiterXV

weird to piggyback off what awesomeming is saying without adding anything yourself. can't tell if partnered or just opportunism.

I’m not piggybacking, I’m just in a bad mood and his posts were getting annoying. I don’t know why town would just spam nonsense that doesn’t move the game forward. I get having a bit of banter and some jokes but I guess I just feel it’s excessive.

ok so why would scum do it then

[JupiterXV]

or in other words: what do i as scum gain from spamming content that doesn't advance game

[JupiterXV]

'spamming' seems like a stretch to me anyways. nobody's really been all that 'game-advancing' so far jupiter's posts don't really stand out me in that respect.

i'm entertaining kayjay'spov right now

[JupiterXV]

god fucking damn it

[JupiterXV]

sorry I was on page 6 and didn't notice there was already a page 7 so I expected I would get the pagetop

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Jake (ming kay jake)

[JupiterXV]

Monkey Jake?

it's a poe

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Jake (ming kay jake)

soft agree on ming and kay but jake looks more like unengaged town to my very untrained eye

agree to disagree then

[JupiterXV]

it means post or eliminate
basically if you are in the POE and you do not post then you will be eliminated
it is a strategy against scum who intentionally post very infrequently to not attract attention (i.e. coasters)

It just means solve to me

[JupiterXV]

Bad morning

VOTE: JupiterXV

for unnecessary AtE

Joking = scum ok

[JupiterXV]

OMGGG FORE

[JupiterXV]

Monkey Jake?

it's a poe

why am i not in your poe

because you’re cute

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: JupiterXV

weird to piggyback off what awesomeming is saying without adding anything yourself. can't tell if partnered or just opportunism.

I’m not piggybacking, I’m just in a bad mood and his posts were getting annoying. I don’t know why town would just spam nonsense that doesn’t move the game forward. I get having a bit of banter and some jokes but I guess I just feel it’s excessive.

ok so why would scum do it then

Do what? I might not have had a great sampling of scum but at least half of them seem to try to annoy or troll town to make them think they aren’t taking the game seriously (reverse psychology when they’re actually scum trying to come off as a “waste of time” to pay attention to) maybe I’ve just been unlucky with my very few experiences lol

you do have really bad experiences I don’t think that’s optimal scumplay in any shape or form

[JupiterXV]

help im pocketed

meow meow meow:3

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: halfasleep

I’ll explain more in depth later, I’m working. I know they’re not me but their actions are reminding me of my own tells as a wolf. Elaboration coming soon

SAME BRAIN
VOTE: halfasleep

[JupiterXV]

halfasleep and jake are partnered btw

[JupiterXV]

I think that the read on Kay is weird and that none of Kay's behavior thus far has been strictly alignment-indicative, and the fact that they think Jake could be town for doing nothing at all but thinking that I'm neutral for also doing nothing is strange.

[JupiterXV]

Also, her solve is literally mine, just minus Jake

[JupiterXV]

hm

[JupiterXV]

just an observation for now but i think it's
interesting

[JupiterXV]

hm

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Jake this is scummier tbh

[JupiterXV]

I did not misread the posts. You clearly implied that my read was bad. Your entire argument was based on the fact that you think that the posts I pointed out were not deserving of a scumread. If you do not agree on that premise that my read was bad your entire argument literally falls apart. I am not deliberately ignoring what you are saying and you need to stop saying that, it’s not healthy for discussion and it’s annoying me.

ok, i see what you're saying in that you're right that i don't agree that that jupiter post was a reasonable basis for a scumread. i do still think there's a meaningful distinction between 'i don't believe this' and 'i don't believe that you believe this' and i do think that you get that. the world where you really took jupiter's joking as sincere 'appeal to emotion' is just too far from any reality i understand to imagine, but i recognise that is probably very frustrating if you are sincere. last sentence here is bad though. telling me that i

need

to change my line of argument just because it annoys you isn't ate? i thought you didn't like ate?

That said, I cannot attack your reasoning that my read seemed not genuine without first addressing the underlying assumption that the read was bad. Also, my post was most definitely not opportunist in any way. I was not taking advantage of the

opportunity that the AtE gave me

, I was simply trying to move discussion to a more productive place by making the best read I could come up with on the spot.

you're really gonna keep calling it that huh

The entire thing with making you post reads is to show how difficult is it to make a good early read and the importance of not accusing the first read that comes up of being scum trying to “steer” and rather as a chance to get out of RVS.

i wanna agree with this in principle but i don't think getting your thoughts out the gate first should exempt them from scrutiny. and honestly i still feel okay about my scumread on you rn. i probably did go too far in accusing of bad faith argument as much as i did so apologies if i'm wrong about that. i still don't feel like i'm wrong about your alignment though.

stop defending me it literally doesnt matter

[JupiterXV]

ok you're not defending me wrong phrasing

[JupiterXV]

was gonna pull up to be like "man why is no one fucking paying attention to me on jake" and was pleasantly surprised by several votes. thanks gang keep up the good work

[JupiterXV]

might actually talk about this read in detail but tbh it's incredibly surface level and comes down to how literally everyones at least trying to contribute and jake's done nothing so far except fluff
it's very far from typical scum positioning but what i'm thinking is that if scum jake moves out of this successfully it makes him look good -- i have done crazy batshit things in my scumgame here and i don't see why this isnt a strategy other people couldnt use

[JupiterXV]

hm

[JupiterXV]

jake i wouldn't mind an axe on you but i'd rather you do anything at all asides from spam e-1

[JupiterXV]

jake's scum here because he knows that we don't take him up on his offer to lim him

[JupiterXV]

he has nothing to gain from putting himself at e-1 so early asides from getting votes off of him

[JupiterXV]

ming where's that sudzoof rt flowchat image

[JupiterXV]

flowchart*

[JupiterXV]

She was willing to execute me, immediately. Why? As you said, we still had a week left in the game, so executing me would've wasted a lot of time and just be a bad idea in general.

i think you're a good enough player to know this is certainly not what black means

[JupiterXV]

LMAO AVERAGE MING W

[JupiterXV]

i don't think this is trolling, kay- i think it's just a scum move here

[JupiterXV]

She was willing to execute me, immediately. Why? As you said, we still had a week left in the game, so executing me would've wasted a lot of time and just be a bad idea in general.

i think you're a good enough player to know this is certainly not what black means

No, of course not. Black would never admit to this, regardless of alignment. However, it does throw shade onto me, making me look worse than I already am. Meanwhile, Sleepy's reaction is much more townlike and is a very natural newb response to seeing someone put themselves at e-1.

i think this is a really strange response to take given that:
1: "let's fade this" =/= shade
2: "let's fade this" =/= making you look worse
3: black is not a newb while halfasleep is

[JupiterXV]

also if black considering you for her limpool makes you look bad literally what about the countless posts i've made about you prior to that

[JupiterXV]

i don't think this is trolling, kay- i think it's just a scum move here

But whats the point of it??
Like "yes come on vote me" so we wouldn't do it and just hope that we will ignore him or something?

i did talk about this earlier

ok so are you asking me to explain to you why people use this strategy or why this makes jake scum?

[JupiterXV]

She was willing to execute me, immediately. Why? As you said, we still had a week left in the game, so executing me would've wasted a lot of time and just be a bad idea in general.

i think you're a good enough player to know this is certainly not what black means

No, of course not. Black would never admit to this, regardless of alignment. However, it does throw shade onto me, making me look worse than I already am. Meanwhile, Sleepy's reaction is much more townlike and is a very natural newb response to seeing someone put themselves at e-1.

i think this is a really strange response to take given that:
1: "let's fade this" =/= shade
2: "let's fade this" =/= making you look worse
3: black is not a newb while halfasleep is

Jupiter, you seem to have an inherent grasp on Black, what do you think it says about her?

just because you blatantly misinterpreted her sentences doesn't mean that i have an "inherent grasp" on black's behavior or playstyle as town

[JupiterXV]

that she's town what

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she says "let's fade this" and then unvotes indicating that you're in her limpool but she doesn't want to do it immediately

[JupiterXV]

which is literally the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you're saying of her

[JupiterXV]

I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree.

Her later post doesn't feel like it's made in good faith. It feels like she realizes that saying "Hey let's execute this person right now" is a very bad look, and so backpeddles from a less defensible position into a more defensible one.

She doesn't do that as scum unless she makes an incredibly catastrophic unpopular decision (e.g: voting with her scumbuddy t3 on Titus in open 894 before trying to push the narrative that she's been pocketing t3 right before elimination)

[JupiterXV]

i don't think this is trolling, kay- i think it's just a scum move here

But whats the point of it??
Like "yes come on vote me" so we wouldn't do it and just hope that we will ignore him or something?

i did talk about this earlier

ok so are you asking me to explain to you why people use this strategy or why this makes jake scum?

How will this help him as scum for longer term?
I thought even before they were scum, so my problem is not in that but like
What the thought process for that

k gimme a sec

[JupiterXV]

open 894 and open 904(?)

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first is a scumgame where we were partnered and my fist on this site,s second is both of us town

[JupiterXV]

my first two games on this site

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oh and now we're playing together again... yippe!

[JupiterXV]

yippee. holy shit i need to spell

[JupiterXV]

btw purplemango i have a response in the works but i also have work i have to do that is also in the works

[JupiterXV]

whyd u link them

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wow I came back to thread after forty minutes on public transit and I think I've seen a lot of scum theatre, (JV, Jake, Purple)

half-asleep I will respond to purplemango for the sake of fairness, I have part of that post written and will work on it later

[JupiterXV]

well that feels targeted. the reason i accused you was because you literally were misrepping black

[JupiterXV]

thoughts on purplemango: think theyre partnered w jake because the way they questioned jake's thing to me felt strange idr the specific wording but it felt incredibly frantic and really weird to me. like idk why do u think i know whats going on inside jakes head bro

[JupiterXV]

:/

[JupiterXV]

it's honestly astounding that jakes's been on site for like five years now and plays like this as town does anyone know if this is normal

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Jupiter

They perspective slipped actually

hm

[JupiterXV]

wow I came back to thread after forty minutes on public transit and I think I've seen a lot of scum theatre, (JV, Jake, Purple)

half-asleep I will respond to purplemango for the sake of fairness, I have part of that post written and will work on it later

VOTE: Jake this is scummier tbh

it's honestly astounding that jakes's been on site for like five years now and plays like this as town does anyone know if this is normal

These are not consistent, quoting random skimmed “jake is scum” like posts but grab any of them. Why would someone who scumreads them insult their towngame here.

i'm insulting his towngame because there's no way this is his fuckign towngame????

[JupiterXV]

It’s directly insulting their townplay and not a “they’re so bad they have to be scum” because why else would they word it like they did.

the only way i see this play is as jake scum but ok

[JupiterXV]

there's no way that jake's on site for five years and has mafia knowledge YET PLAYS LIKE THIS AS TOWN???

[JupiterXV]

i don't really wanna play this anymore
i'm right about jake btw lol
my solve is jake, purplemango and jv
thanks see you postgame VOTE: JupiterXV

[JupiterXV]

a slip is a slip so like whatever i guess here's to scum jupiter

[JupiterXV]

if i'm scum here in your eyes you can just lim me

[JupiterXV]

it's honestly astounding that jakes's been on site for like five years now and plays like this as town does anyone know if this is normal

To be as clear as I possibly can as I’m going to be busy again really soon.

I know what you were trying to say, that they’re too bad to reasonably be town (which like, I don’t respect you saying and I think that’s incredibly disrespectful).

What you said was filled with the assumption that they actually are town. Most notably your use of “astounding that” rather than something like “astounding if”.

I believe this is because you know he’s town (aka you’re a wolf) and accidentally slipped that with your wording.

ftr what i meant by bad was that it was incredibly scummy at several points and that it was not how town would play or want to present themself but whatever i guess

[JupiterXV]

pagetop

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VOTE: Black

say more?

I think scum is hiding behind this Jake-sized red herring so I’m venturing out to find them.

TMI or counterwagon to save scumbuddy, kay & jake paired

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Black

say more?

I think scum is hiding behind this Jake-sized red herring so I’m venturing out to find them.

TMI or counterwagon to save scumbuddy, kay & jake paired

This is laughable. What am I now?

not scum

[JupiterXV]

Do you not see how if you’re town you’re being controlled by your confbias?

what

[JupiterXV]

actually i changed my mind i don't want to play
sm1 hammer please
i'm vt

[JupiterXV]

So you’re happy to die to stop playing this game when there are ways to stop playing without tanking the game for your team? This is insanely stubborn and immature.

No matter your alignment, you’re hurting whoever your teammate(s) are by giving up.

Respectfully, please shut the fuck up

[JupiterXV]

Actually I take that back with zero respect please shut the fuck up

[JupiterXV]

You all have been incredibly fucking shitty to me- I have had to stop reading the thread beforehand because I have physically wanted to puke.

[JupiterXV]

All of the comments you all have made over the past few pages have fucking hurt and shit was really rough for me this afternoon and I came here expecting to find something like idk fun to do destress a bit but it leaked into my play and then people told me to grow up or just otherwise took swings at me and it fucking sucked idk

[JupiterXV]

It sucked
If you're so sick of me just hammer already I don't think my elimination is bringing this game down that much

[JupiterXV]

I was originally going to just ignore all of this and move on but it sucks to be talked down to like I don't know why any of you think shitting on my solves or any of the opinions I have to share is constructive or will help the game in any shape or form and i really disliked just not being here and having my reactions be called "hilarious" or like whatever the fuck you all were doing, it felt like a beatdown

[JupiterXV]

It sucked
If you're so sick of me just hammer already I don't think my elimination is bringing this game down that much

If you’re town it very much brings the game down.

Ok and cry about it

[JupiterXV]

Ah, now Jupiter. There's no need to show Uranus here. I believe you when you say you honestly didn't slip there.

I honestly don’t think you could have reacted worse than what you did, that’s hilarious

There was no emotion behind it, why would he do that when a scumread is pushing back for something he feels is meaningless.

Jackson, you sly devil. You bluffed your way into catching a scum. Both you and that are amazing.

As I said, I didn't see anything particularly scummy about his insults against me. However, I do strongly agree that him folding like a cheap suit is rather suspicious.

:thumbs-up:

[JupiterXV]

You’re upset over that after doing what you did?

What did I do

[JupiterXV]

You all have been incredibly fucking shitty to me- I have had to stop reading the thread beforehand because I have physically wanted to puke.

How? I haven’t seen anything of the sort except you blatantly insulting Jake and doubling down on it and then being incredibly disrespectful towards Kay, again doubling down on that. Why should you be allowed to do that? Sure I personally shouldn’t have told you to grow up, but that was after you were insulting Jake and then doing what I would consider an immature reaction to me just playing the game.

It wasn't an insult. I usually substitute in generally negative terms for scummy

[JupiterXV]

Also didnt Jake literally say he wasnt insulted???

[JupiterXV]

ive literally said over and fucking over that i did not intend the jake comment as an insult it is a comment on

also idk i shouldnt have to be respectful when ive beem constantly been hounded on by the entire thread n given zero space to breathe amd the second i come back i post game content and i get talked down to and told to do certain things or else ill be limmed

[JupiterXV]

why would you do that there's just under a week left in d1 this is so stupid

fuck off dude

maybe i'm just a stupid newbie who doesn't understand your big brain strats but in what scenario on what planet in e-1ing yourself not completely asinine gameplay?

ok serious question jupiter do you think anything that's been said in reaction to your self-vote is ruder or meaner than what i said about jake's quoted here? because i didn't see you stopping to tell me off for this at the time.

i wasn't paying attentuion

[JupiterXV]

The way you’re acting doesn’t convince me it wasn’t meant to bring him down.

You’re literally being treated better than you’re treating others are you joking?

THAT WASN'T THE FUCKIGN PURPOSE can you maybe just understand that I DIDNT MEAN FOR IT TO COME ACROSS THAT WAY OKAY//// i'm sorry if it sounded insulting i was making a comment on his play it really just wasn't supposed to be like that im sorry its just today's been such a fucking mess i really just. i dunnoi came here and the first thing that happened was getting shitpushed and it was really frustrating and i dunno i didnt want to get yelled at because ive been yelled at the whole day so i just self-voted i wasnt thinking i just felt so bad i couldnt play and now that i came back i just wanted to play the game but the first thing you said to me was just some cruel comment about my solve and then kay was threatening to lim me and i dont know i came back because i thought i was composed enough but apaprently not maybe im the sensitive one here and i'm really sorry you dont have to accept it because this is all my fault im just sorry for inconveniencing you and being annoying i should just go away now 

[JupiterXV]

sorrysorry i shouldnt have posted we already finished talking about this ill just leave now

[JupiterXV]

can we just fucking cut it out i said it was my fault (which it was!!!!!)

[JupiterXV]

kay i'm sorry for lashing out at you, you didn't deserve that and i shouldn't have been disrespectful towards you. i should have taken a break from thread when i felt upset and i shouldn't have let my emotions get control of me. what i said was uncalled for, and i'm sorry. you do not have to accept this apology.
and jake, i didn't mean what i said. at least not like. idk, in an insulting manner. i'm sorry if you felt insulted by that. you dont have to forgive me for that either i just wanted to make it clear that i genuinely was not trying to be disrepectful.

[JupiterXV]

i talked more in-depth abotu how i felt in dead pt but i feel like it's important to talk about here too since thats not released yet.

[JupiterXV]

me for egging him on.

also uhhh what so if black hadn't told you to stop yelling at me you would've just kept doing it??? i'm not saying what i did was acceptable but at the time i felt genuinely very stressed out and at my worst and your messages felt extremely. idk what the word is. it felt really cruel for lack of a better word. like you were trying to get a reaction out of me

[JupiterXV]

this is all just from memory and i could be completely wrong but that's how i felt and i wanted to make it clear and i dunno it just Sucked A Lot at the time
i know what i said was shitty and disrespectful we dont have to keep going on about it. in fact i'd prefer if we didn't continue arguing about it, it's a massive waste of time for everyone
that's all

[JupiterXV]

or something idk i dont really have the capacity to talk about it more this all feels kinda half-assed bc it is. and sorry abotu that im kinda goin thru it rn

[JupiterXV]

im kinda goin thru it rn

for stuff not related to this

[JupiterXV]

You didn’t even say it was something serious for a decent while when our back and forth was happening, I’m not a mindreader brother.

yeah, that's my bad