Micro Theme 1105 | A Questionable (quasi-)Normal game, Vol. II [FIN]

[Enchant]

Does miller only matter if we have a cop?

Depending on other players from annoyance to potential conftown.

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I saw game with two millers and no cop.

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VOTE: Ketchup

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This game doesn't show in "your posts" list for some reason, so if you need my attention quote my message. Otherwise i may tank game due forgetting about it existance.

[Enchant]

This game doesn't show in "your posts" list for some reason, so if you need my attention quote my message. Otherwise i may tank game due forgetting about it existance.

It does for me so maybe you just have a skill issue

Strange

[Enchant]

maybe this time ketchup has rolled mafia

anyways, i'm a probably miller? like, idk, there's some fuckery going on with my role, i will not elaborate

Why not ask for clarification on your role

No i mean like i know what my role does i'm just not sure about the implications

What your role does?

[Enchant]

IT WAS CLEAR JOKE

UNVOTE IMMEDIATELY

[Enchant]

IT WAS CLEAR JOKE

UNVOTE IMMEDIATELY

You fix the noti problem? Or how you get here so quick

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ANY SANE PERSON KNOWING 1VS1 FROM START WILL STATE IT FROM FIRST POST.

[Enchant]

Why? To void info from early interactions? No thanks

Continue this way and you eat your deserved pie for faking guilty.

[Enchant]

It is fixed.

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I’m also informed there’s no SK innocent child apparently (even tho I thought that’s like… a given?), and other info I’m withholding until EoD.

That’s all my use for this game, time to do nothing for the rest of the game

What

[Enchant]

wait.
should i also claim?

Probably if you can refute jackson claim.

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my role did bring up the possible existence of a gf tho.

If you are informed you should claim now as there's possibility that mafia will kill you and information will be lost.

Besides you already gave fat tip.


Jackson same, but Jackson claim is kinda... Out of place. Too much. It's not like i gonna believe anything, sorry.


For those unaware, Jackson lied about "one of them must be mafia" information, it's what Jackson thinks and Jackson admitted it.

[Enchant]

"PR should get over their efforia of rolling PR and actually try to hide atleast one game."


Said by some idiot wizard.

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Let's just assume everyone is informed. Even the 2 scum.

Everyone can't be informed.

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If there's like so many outed PRs already, maybe do massclaim at this point?

I mean why not indeed, what could go wrong.

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It was mocking.

You literally clueless.

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I claim mafia goon.

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We NK each other then

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We NK each other then

prisoners dilemma ig

There's no prisons in modern society, we execute criminals.

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Bussing teammates doesn't count

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Bussing teammates doesn't count

no teammates for me again this game

^ This player claimed Serial Killer

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First time?

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This is page 10 and i am already tired of this game.

I am lurking cya

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Will it be fair if i claim too?

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Then i won't. Back to lurking.

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Intent to hammer.

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Intent to hammer.

Getting in early or did you think she was at E-1?

First

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I’d definitely look at the players voting me when I flip green.

Don't forget to post solve in dead thread in case there's Medium in game.

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Or just don’t kill me and vote someone that’s actually bad.

Do you mean me

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Or just don’t kill me and vote someone that’s actually bad.

Do you mean me

I listened to what others had to say and I’ve unvoted you.

If you don't have your own opinion i don't care to listen what you want to say.

[Enchant]

Your opinion doesn't exist, you fear to push your own opinion and instead listen and sheep others, and previous game with me should had teached why it's not way to play.

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I want you voted out not because you voted me, that's how you did it.

[Enchant]

Issue is.
You unvoted me.

And then.

Nothing.


You wait until wagon on someone starts or something? I mean it's not even neccesary to vote someone, just start pushing.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Umlaut

Look at me.

[Enchant]

So you actually think I’m bad or do you just not like me because you think I have no opinions? And if you think I’m bad, please explain why. Because even you just said that I shouldn’t play the way I did when I just lost a game to you, a game in which I was town. So if you think I’m playing similarly, that would mean you think I’m acting like I did when I was town. This means you don’t actually think I’m bad and you wanting me voting out is in bad faith.

Incorect i think you would had realised after that game you should have pushed your own mind more often instead of listening others. But there you are again.


No one plays game constantly, it's big scumtell for you.

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Also NO U GUPYX

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No one plays game constantly, it's big scumtell for you.

What?

I simple don't believe you didn't learn on mistakes.

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Also i am supposed to lurk.

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I think i need new avatar

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@Jay

In actuality i just see you defending each other, why exactly you townread jackson

[Enchant]

So you sheep some random guy okay Jay

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@Jay

In actuality i just see you defending each other, why exactly you townread jackson

I never said I townread Jack. When have I defended him?

Enchant is going coocoo crazy

Do you implying i was sane at start of game

[Enchant]

@Jay

In actuality i just see you defending each other, why exactly you townread jackson

I never said I townread Jack. When have I defended him?

Enchant is going coocoo crazy

Do you implying i was sane at start of game

Quit assuming shit

Let me think about it.

No.

[Enchant]

In fact why i am going crazy?

Why i am not just mafia bullshitting case?

Do you think i am town?

[Enchant]

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BUT I VOTED UMLAUT FIRST


TECHNICALLY IT'S THEY SHEEPING ME.

[Enchant]

I don't care who gets limmed expect for 1-2 picked people i like.

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^ Hey look scum claim

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UNVOTE:

I want hummer

[Enchant]

Why is everyone so wagon hungry this early on?

We have 2 days until deadline.


Early on?

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UNVOTE:

I want hummer

Well you better start begging Gypyx to switch votes because I highly doubt Umlaut is going to self vote.

Or i can just wait until like day to deadline, when you are forced to vote Umlaut as compromise.


"Not enough reason", blah blah blah.
Of course there won't be enough.


And surprise, i voted NOT because Umlaut has just 7 posts or so. Well partially, it does affect.

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I don't like Jay whiteknighting.

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I suddenly don't like Ketchup

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Ok so as part of E-1 claiming we need to claim who we would vengekill

pedit: uh oh

Then if nothing goes through we get a clear. it might be optimal to try eliminate our vengeful player today infact? thoughts (without claiming)?

Incorrect.

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Ok so as part of E-1 claiming we need to claim who we would vengekill

pedit: uh oh

Then if nothing goes through we get a clear. it might be optimal to try eliminate our vengeful player today infact? thoughts (without claiming)?

Incorrect.

plz explain why

So you want to eliminate said player (who is... Um. Conftown, presuming Jackson is town and information is truth). So they can try to kill someone else, either conftowning them instead (and be probably instantly murdered at night) OR kill mafia (bringing us at Odd amount of players, so we lose not one, but TWO mislims). When we could... Just eliminate target at first place instead of said conftown.


You brainfarted. No offence.

[Enchant]

I suddenly don't like Ketchup

I suddenly like you

I can fix that easily

[Enchant]

I agree.

Let's vote player who gives effort instead of player who doesn't.

Because that would be not cheap.

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Wanna say that's not case?

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With amount of informed roles though, would be waste to eliminate someone without claiming. So yeah annoying.

[Enchant]

Would be fair if both ketchup and umlaut claimed then.

[Enchant]

Would be fair if both ketchup and umlaut claimed then.

Would be even better if Umlaut posted first lol

Also I don't want to be the one to mention that Enchant is again looking for claims.....basically unprompted as well, I wasn't thinking it was a big deal before......but now is a bit of a pattern

Compulsive claim asker.


As i said, we have potential for informed.
Or to kill potential conftown.
Or etc.

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Would be fair if both ketchup and umlaut claimed then.

I think if one of us has useful information similar to jackson we should claim it ideally in twilight if we’ve been hammered but idk

That's great joke.

VOTE: Ketchup

Learn fakeclaiming.

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Anyway I can’t guarantee to be here every minute of the day so could you unvote so Umlaut can’t hammer me and claim accident

Claim or no unvote

[Enchant]

Anyway I can’t guarantee to be here every minute of the day so could you unvote so Umlaut can’t hammer me and claim accident

Claim or no unvote

ok give me 2 mins

Kill it.

[Enchant]

Hammer.

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UNVOTE:

Waiting for omelette

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Honestly with that knowledge you look even worse but i wait for omelette

[Enchant]

True. But wolves are informed so i think they could fake a better claim

How the fuck do you know that

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True. But wolves are informed so i think they could fake a better claim

How the fuck do you know that

Because I am informed of such.

Well.

That's it? Just "all wolfs informed"?

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Considering everyone seems to know two or more things (or potential to do so), eh

[Enchant]

Other is useless info. Just like others were saying

State anyway why not?

[Enchant]

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What is this code and can you cease.

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VOTE: Hu Tao

Not a fan of your recent posts

What specifically and why?

Still waiting on this jackson

Where's your information

[Enchant]

Still waiting on this Hu Tao

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VOTE: Hu Tao

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Oh no!

Anyway

"I have info which were already stated but i won't state it because i hate town and want to throw"

or

"I don't know what to fakeclaim"

[Enchant]

That's literally never happening as scum. Please try to decipher scenarios better.

So you are not claiming because you like being obnoxious.

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I am tired.


I am informed that:
1. There's no Wolf-Aligned Masons.
2. There's 3 players who have "Serial Killer-aligned Innocent Children" phrase in Role PM. 2 of them town, 1 is Wolf.


Unless someone comes yelling they have this phrase in role PM, Jackson conftown.
I am one of these players obviosly.
Third will either claim instantly or never claim.


I am never unvoting Hu Tao, it feels like wolfs know claiming information will harm them. Hu Tao can't make up something. Hu Tao dies.

That's simple and fair i guess.

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In first game i in fact had same informed role (but was informed that mafia has fruit vendor) and was only town PR.
It was 5p game with 2 mafia members. It was... Wild.


Either way.

You deemed it useless. So instead of stating it and forgetting about, you insisted on silence (yet you said you are informed before so you not covering VT. Which i WOULD understand), even after i voted. Again you lost nothing from stating it.


I will not ask if you find trolling me funny, because you will say yes. I will ask if that worth it in the end, because now mafia!you would know what to NOT claim and i can't believe you at all.


I probably just gonna wait until everyone say if they have this phrase or not. There's issue in claims which you would notice if you payed attention at all informed claims. I won't pinpoint it directly until needed but it exist. Train yourself in setup spech for a bit i guess.


I sleep.

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*fake yapee*

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GREEN COLOR?

DID I WIN?

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YOU ARE ONLY VT JAY

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This is my horse my horse is amazing


I am sleep

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You really bended real info Hu Tao has which is "both wolfs are informed"

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Hu Tao being informed there’s 2 wolves is kind of weird huh when it’s in the game notes rule 9

ISO EVERY PLAYER AND MAKE LIST OF ALL CLAIMS


THIS IS ORDER

DO IT SOLDIER

[Enchant]

Sorry i am not condition to do it myself

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Should i clarify my claim or try to leave it ambiguous if me or kay are the VT?

Probably not.

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@ketchup: Honestly I don’t get why you’d compile the post unless you were pushing people to claim. All you’ve done is made it easier on scum to decide who to kill because you condensed everything into one post for them. This is not helpful to town whatsoever. If you want to compile that, do it in your own notes or whatever. And wait to post until we claim or whatever your point in doing that even was. You achieved nothing good by doing that and your gameplay continues to annoy me this game.

Wait didn't i ask ketchup to do it?

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Also if mafia can't collect all claims in one post, they have skill issue so who cares.

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Let’s just kill me today and make it harder for scum tonight. Unless you guys have a good idea of who is lying/whose claim is scum…I don’t see a way to differentiate between them because any role could seemingly be either. Unless I’m missing something.

We don't, have fun.

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THIS MEME IS UNFUNNY AND NOW I KNOW WHICH ALT DRNICK IS.

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THIS MEME IS UNFUNNY AND NOW I KNOW WHICH ALT DRNICK IS.

Who is scum though

I already designated pool for it.

Can you. Uh. Unvote self? Or vote someone else instead. Thanks.

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THIS MEME IS UNFUNNY AND NOW I KNOW WHICH ALT DRNICK IS.

Who is scum though

I already designated pool for it.

Can you. Uh. Unvote self? Or vote someone else instead. Thanks.

I want to vote ketchup, do you have any reason why I shouldn’t?

Nope!

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VOTE: Ketchup

You were ketchuped.

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... Tomatoed?

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I was in hood with Hu Tao and Gypix. We full claimed to each other.


I assumed Hood to be pure. I will continue with this assumption.


Dr.Nick claimed info there's only one townie player with JOAT role other than Nick.. There's two town flips with JOAT role. Make thinking.

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Gypix info is that there's no Village Traitors or something like it.

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Yes we did.

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Wait no i mean we DID knew Gypix told us this we have different info

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I think i just gonna fullclaim atp


I

was

Village Informed Universal Backup Novice Neighbor


My info:
There's 3 players with "Serial Killer Aligned Innocent Children" phrase in their role PMs, one of them is wolf.
There's no Wolfs with Mason role.



After Jackson died i received Jackson info and JOAT abilities.
So now i am:
*inhale*

Village Informed [Informed Informed JoAT (Messenger, FruitVendor) Lazy Disloyal Vengeful] Novice Neighbor

(Why Informed Twice? I guess two informations counts as two roles if you inherit them with backup hell i know whatever)

Jackson info:
There are no SerialKiller aligned Innocent Children.
No Wolf aligned players are Bulletproof or Vengeful-Immune.


I am also in Hood from D2 and onwards. On N2 i tried to send Gypix message but Gypix died:

Spoiler: Message

I still have fruit shot and useless hood as well as useless lazy disloyal vengeful.

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Ok mod told it's typo.

It supposed to be just Informed JoAT (Messenger, FruitVendor) Lazy Disloyal Vengeful


I guess it doesn't really matter.

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So
I wanted to be voted out because we had a 5/7 chance of mislimming a role that would get info at night and be able to help solve the game. I thought if I died, it would give us the most info at night since only 1 person with info would die from the night kill instead of that person plus whoever we mislimmed.

I honestly think if Nick’s claim is undone by ketchup’s flip, plus this hood info, this could help us solve. I think it’s obvious today is a full claim day.

But to be honest, I am going to be a little wary of 1/3 of the players being in a hood and none of them are bad. Can someone in hood please tell me the order in which you all full claimed yourselves in the hood?

I was first to claim then Hu Tao confirmed claim in public and then Gypix claimed info.

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STD had ability to join hood if they wish or not. We are novices and are forced to join in hood.


So yeah i presume hood is pure.

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STD had ability to join hood if they wish or not. We are novices and are forced to join in hood.


So yeah i presume hood is pure.

Oh there would’ve been 4? I forgot that part of their flip. Now I’m vaguely remembering. So then it’s just either Nick or experience?

It's nick did you forget nick claim (ONLY ONE OTHER TOWN JOAT) or something.

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I guess it was just village traitors.

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Which is strange. Hmmm.

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Also I’m guessing the miller stuff was just a bluff to be kept alive n1 to be able to get into the hood?

Gypix said it's to tip about being informed but i see it silly and didn't really read in it. It doesn't really matter.

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I am interested to see how nick gonna pull something but i think it will be boring "Oh i misread"

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I believe ketchup did it and Jay got mad for this so we policied ketchup away lmao.

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Gypyx: 'probably miller'; guilty to investigators
ketchup: Informed JOAT (n1-101 activated informed, n1-102 activated informed, n1-103 activated informed)
Jackson: Informed (no wolf-aligned bulletproof/vengeful-immune, at least one village lazy-disloyal vengeful, no sk innocent child) 1-shot messenger. Then see flip
enchant: Informed that 1. There's no Wolf-Aligned Masons.
2. There's 3 players who have "Serial Killer-aligned Innocent Children" phrase in Role PM. 2 of them town, 1 is Wolf.
KJQ: no claim. no idea what she could possibly be.
Nick: informed about something(s) and that there are no village aligned GFs
Hu Tao: informed there are exactly 2 wolves, scum are informed, and no village aligned gfs
experience: informed n1 informed n2 informed n3 informed (will receive info on village-aligned gf, village-aligned traitor, wolf-aligned mason). experience said that not all people with
Umlaut: see flip, no claim

Forgive ussssssssssssssss

[Enchant]

Replace Gypix claim with "There's no Town aligned traitors".

[Enchant]

Meeeeeeeeeeh.


I think Nick is just mafia but opening with clearance on me is pretty bold.

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I asked Bianco last night for any clarification about what I am informed about, ie that only one other villager shares an aspect of your role(it was a bit vague imo), Bianco wasn't much of a help lol

Okay can you try to paraphrase your informed VERY carefully.

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Okay so kay you're the VT? If so I think the game is solved. Just vote Dr nick and if he's town we vote experience. We vote Dr nick first cause he confirms enchant as town if he's town

Did you just scumslip.

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We vote Dr nick first cause he confirms enchant as town if he's town

I don't get this part.

What confirmation exactly you need

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But if he's scum i am town anyway so again what confirmation you need

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It doesn't matter what Nick alignment this game is unless he says "you know what i lied" i am conf regardless

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Fun fact: I lost all games where i was conftown.

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Let's put experience, Hu Tao and Dr.Nick in cage, force them to find who exactly mafia then i just toss dice on who we execute.

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Why you think Nick would confirm me as town and practically doom self.

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@Hu Tao

I think you should fullclaim here.

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VOTE: Nick

I believe in people figuring it out if it's wrong.

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I am informed that setup is balanced.


But this is bastard game, it may be possible that i received wrong info.

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I just didn't want to read all 400 posts of ketchup.

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Me failing to see connection between doctor drew and doctor nick:

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I am Drew alt.