Trifia: Town wins after Day Eight

[Dmi]

Category: Fire

[Dmi]

Definitely.

But it will go against the spirit of the game. Maybe Fuldu should implement something.

[Dmi]

I assume you're talking about doing that right away - definitely not. Then we're random lynching only because by giving no answers, you block ALL choices including information gatherers.

I think what he meant was the town doesn't lynch anyone, the mafia can't kill, therefore there's a nice happy ending.

[Dmi]

I have no clue about th Apprentice question. I only watched the second season.
But from what I know about the apprentice, weren't the girls eliminated first? So, it's probably a girl's name.

[Dmi]

I'd rather have the people who chose the question to answer it themselves.

Well, the mafia probably need only one person to carry out the kill. If a group with a question doesn't have an answer, then that is more likely to hurt the town rather than the mafia.

[Dmi]

Answer: David Gould

Mgm, the mafia will probably not do that once you mentioned it. Oh well. It was a good idea. It's always a paradox. If you have some good idea to expose the mafia and reveal it to the public, the mafia will do something else. Unless the guy with the idea is a mason.

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justin, what do you think this is, a googling competition?

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I dunno why Coron did that, but I just want to vote for Locus for being an idiot.

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I don't think Coron's plan is going to prove him innocent to me.
If he's mafia, his partner(s) will do the kill. I'd usually think it suspicious, but I thiink it's just a stupid action in his case.

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Vig? Roleblocker?

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Maybe it's some intricate role we won't guess and he's just messing with us.

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Category: War

Seems easiest!

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Random Vote: Flying Dutchman

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Does the Monday deadline apply only to answers, or voting as well?

Answer: House of York

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Unvote, Vote: AndrewS

The answer was a post above you. You don't even bother to say why you gave the wrong answer.

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Odd or Even?

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PeaceBringer- bold your answer.

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AndrewS already claimed.
What Leonidas meant was after he would finish his post, he will analyze AndrewS' claim. Then he didn't believe him and voted for him.

Are you deliberately misinterpreting here, MoS?

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Last time your state went Democrat, Quailman.

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Category: Past

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I know the present's question and am counting on Peacebringer for the football question, since he's part of a football website.

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Vote: CoronII

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My night results suggest that CoronII is scum.

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Coron, I'll reveal my role and night choices if you do that first.

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Coron has 5 votes, so he's 4 away from a lynch.

The present answer is a platinum chain for a watch, I think.

[Dmi]

I am an electrical engineer. I track a person's night actions.

Night One- I tracked Leonidas. Because it is known that he is the inventor, I do not wish to disclose who Leonidas visited Night One.

Night Two- I tracked CoronII. He visited Leonidas.

Leonidas was killed. CoronII killed him.

[Dmi]

Nice defense, Coron.
Could you just explain to me why I would try to get you lynched so fervently if I was scum?

[Dmi]

Locus, does a mechanical engineer who's a doctor make sense?
What about a chef who's an inventor?
Or a systems analyst who's a deputy?

FOS: Locus

You seem to be concentrating more on my role name rather than my role.
Just because my role name's connection may not be apparent with my role, that doesn't mean my info's wrong, does it?

But if you want to know, I track electrical flows to see who accessed whose cryopod during the night.

[Dmi]

I think we need to limit in the endgame.
Right now we're probably just going to hurt the protown roles.

[Dmi]

And if we limit the wrong category, then we get about half our protown roles disabled.

Every player has an ability. We should use that to our advantage. If we start disabling players, the chances are more likely to hurt the town. Our infogathering roles won't get info. Our protecting roles won't be able to protect.

That will just help the scum.

[Dmi]

Answer: Dan Marino

[Dmi]

Why not?
If we want to win, we're gonna do the same thing we did these last two days: try to answer correctly, use our abilities, and lynch scum.

I don't want to die. I want to continue investigating.

The only strategy we could use is if there's a real type cop who answers correctly and investigates alignments while everyone else answers incorrectly. But it's too late for that already in the day.

[Dmi]

Category: The Captain

Apparently, Locus was a popular choice last night. I got that he didn't do anything last night, although I don't know whether he could extend the night deadline, and if he could, if he could've done that before being killed.

[Dmi]

I have no clue about either.

[Dmi]

I, like before, am against an answering strategy as of now. Partly that's because it could make my role less effective.

The only reason for not letting people answer is to get a real cop to answer correctly and everyone else to answer wrong. During the night, he investigates someone. The next day, he tells us his answers.

So, uh, are you guys willing to try that, and if so, I don't see any harm in a cop coming out.

[Dmi]

What if a mafia comes out as a cop instead and gets a free kill tonight while none of us get a choice tonight? Also, I'm pretty sure of my answer for Tennille, but what if (a) I'm wrong or (b) the cop chose the Captain and no one knows that answer for sure or is wrong?

That would be great. We have only one person with a choice and there is a kill.

That's basically getting a scum in exchange for someone protown or possibly of another mafia. That's a pretty good trade.

[Dmi]

By the way, the person who Leonidas targeted Night One, would the invention let you investigate or something like that? Cause that could help us right now.

If not, don't come out.
If it does, it's up to you.

[Dmi]

Players (both good and bad) submitting incorrect answers to the day’s trivia question will be denied their night choice by the central computer.

Come on people, don't be lazy. Read the rules. Don't skim.
So, the cop coming out and investigating theory will still work.

Limiting people, even if it does block the SK, may not be worth it.
I think we're just going to limit our own protown abilities.

To start considering who we are going to lynch, one thing and one thing only comes to mind: Why didn't Dmi die? Between three scum groups, why did nobody target him? I am confused.

A doctor could be it.
Two people died. If the third group targeted me and so did the doctor, guess what, I'm alive.
A roleblocker could've blocked a killer.

There's a lot of potential answers actually. So don't try to throw some suspicion on me that is totally unfounded. If you're confused, reread the thread. Could do you some help.

Something didn't sit right with me yesterday when he claimed either, but I shrugged it off. I'm not so sure anymore that that was the right thing to do.

You know something? Your insistense of not letting people answer didn't sit right with me either. It could've killed me.

So you're trying to cast me as scum. Despite several valid theories that could easily explain the whole thing, you think I may not be the tracker I claim to be.

So that's it: Let's lynch Dmi cause he didn't get killed tonight. So we should lynch me because I just

might

be scum and the fact that we'll probably lose a tracker if we do that just doesn't matter.

If you got something against me, then

vote

me.

Vote: thrawn

[Dmi]

OK. Assume I am part of the Heisenburg Mafia.
I out my fellow mafoso CoronII and everyone thinks I'm a tracker.
Wouldn't it make sense for the Pirate Mafia and the SK to try to kill me instead of going for Locus?
Unless you think that in addition to the Heisenburg Mafia having 4 members (as indicated by the categories), I can also influence the other mafias.
Normally lynching me would be bad play, and in this case, it would be just plain dumb.

[Dmi]

So our remaining potential SK's are:

1. Quailman - Tennille
2. Mastermind of Sin - Tennille
3. Maximumum - Tennille
4. Dragon Phoenix - The Captain
5. Bengel54321 - Tennille
6. thrawn1020 - Tennille

We'll block the ones with their number rolled.

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (5, 2, 5) = 12

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So

Mastermind of Sin, Dragon Phoenix, and Bengel54321

should answer incorrectly tonight if we follow this plan.

[Dmi]

Answer: John Draper

Somehow I get the feeling that I won't live to see tomorrow.
2 mafia groups, possibly three with night choices and our doc could be limited.

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Thanks for pointing that out. I should learn to read.
So, DP, I guess you can answer and Maximumum can't.

I believe Quailman, but that is no reason why we should start eliminating people. There's no solid evidence.

[Dmi]

Um, actually I was the first one to throw the dice.
I believe Quailman, but I'm not gonna practice any favoritism here.
So in accordance with the first dice roll (which is mine, by the way),

Mastermind of Sin, Maximumum, and Bengel54321

should answer incorrectly tonight.

Everyone else feel free to answer correctly.

thrawn, I don't see what you're getting at in confusing the town since my list works just fine. (except for that stupid mistake)

[Dmi]

Answer: John Draper

He was the first publicly revealed and most well known phreaker of his time, not technically a "hacker" (his activities started well before PC's were around) but he epitomized the ideal that many phreakers, and later hackers, following him tried to emulate . His goals were not to get free phone calls, but rather to discover as much as possible about how the phone network operated, and often deliberately bounced calls all over the world to call someone right next door...just because he could.

[Dmi]

Quailman, if the people blocked are town, they should tell. Because that will probably help the town.

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Mastermind of Sin, Maximumum, and Bengel54321

should answer incorrectly tonight.

[Dmi]

Maybe thrawn is the SK and he's not going to kill tonight because he thinks I'll probably track him if he survives. And make the blocked people look like the SKs.

[Dmi]

Fuldu explicitly said that if your answer isn't right, you don't have a night choice.

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I don't think there are townies.
Even if thrawn is a townie, it won't be a bad loss for the town.

Lastly, IS ANYONE ELSE A TOWNIE? Or is this a game with a single townie.
Thrawn's claim is BS.

Come on, let's lynch him already. We've got less than 4 hours until the deadline. (2 PM EST)

[Dmi]

Thoth, why are you going against the obvious?

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And Dmi, you're a liar.

Is that why you didn't kill me yesterday? To throw suspicion on me? And because I FOS'd Locus, you decided to kill him so my investigation would look bad?

You know, you still didn't tell me how come all the killing groups decided not to kill me. Unless you believe that I am the SK, part of the Heisenberg mafia, and part of the Pirate mafia.

[Dmi]

And Dmi, you're a liar.

Is that why you didn't kill me yesterday? To throw suspicion on me? And because I FOS'd Locus, you decided to kill him so my investigation would look bad?

You know, you still didn't tell me how come all the killing groups decided not to kill me. Unless you believe that I am the SK, part of the Heisenberg mafia, and part of the Pirate mafia.

[Dmi]

This game is still MAFIA, gentlemen, not some other game. Despite the other rules surrounding this game, we aren't playing Trivia, we're playing mafia with Trivia restrictions. A townie is not only logical, it should be expected. How in the world do you expect to balance a game where you have 25 different night choices? It sounds like it would be madness, combined with the creation of questions.

I'm sure Fuldu put a lot of effort into this. I'm sure he balanced the game. There could be roles that are minor (like a deadline lyncher), roles that could do something only every other day, and lastly, there seems to be a lot of scum in the game.

Going from the number of categories, there were 4 Heisenberg Mafias, probably the same number of pirates, and an SK. That seems to be balanced to me. And don't try to outguess the mod.

And about the deadline thing, there were more unvotes than votes for you. If you were to be lynched, it was critical to lynch you the oldfashioned way.

[Dmi]

Awesome game. Thanks, Fuldu!