Sushi Mafia! Game Over

[hp [leaves]]

/confirm i think

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vote: hp [leaves]

Seriously do we even have any reason for him to be alive right now?

Vote: Pear Bear

[hp [leaves]]

Are you also from smogon? ._.

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VOTE:Riceballtail

Obviously sushi-scum. Speedlynch GO!

I hope your joking. Here, I'm thinking Seraphim was some sort of lyncher...

Even the lynchee agrees she(Are you a she?) is the best lynch. LYNCH GO NOW.

Yes, I would also like to know if you're a she, RBT. I don't want to keep going like s/he or him/her when I refer to you (Jebus too).

I would also like to know why s/he self-voted, too. Are you some sort of suicidal jester, cause I can't see

Townies

wanting to lynch themselves... in their right minds, of course.

Man, too much speculation in one early-game post. And I'm currently playing at two mind-screw games. Not willing to instantly jump on the wagon; but this is definitely worth a FoS.

FoS M_K

Also sirdanilot, I'd like to hear your case against me.

[hp [leaves]]

Ouch, big post.

First I would like to hear why you choose to FoS and keep your random vote instead of actually voting, and why you think this is pro town.

Well, I don't have anything to say about this except a barely acceptable meta defense; so I'll just say I'm slow with my votes and thank you for reminding me.

Unvote

Not liking the MK bandwagon

Unvote

I see his comment about jesters as stupid/newb rather than scummy, thus it is a scumtell. I did the same in RealTime mafia when I was town (and newb).

A) He joined in march. That isn't exactly "newb" territory anymore.
B) If we all had the mentality of "it was a stupid mistake!", we would never get anywhere.
C) It isn't a null-tell because you've done it as town. If there was a bit more sarcasm there, and he made it obvious it was a joke (which he made obvious it wasn't), I could see it. But when it comes right down to it, it s a scumtell.

I completely agree and

FoS ortolan

for the meta defense.

Seraphim - Latest bandwagon. You have one random vote and two other votes against you. Hardly something to worry about IMHO. However, it seems that I was wrong about you wanting to stay in the random voting stage and thus I will

unvote

I expect to check in tomorrow, had a busy day today with the funeral etc. So yeah shall offer some thoughts tomorrow hopefully

Unvote

for now, as my vote was random.

Two identical posts ._. And one was posted after the first one was considered scummy.

I'm guessing that:

Microphone_Kirby (5)- Pear Bear, ortolan, OhGodMyLife, Sipylus, Green Crayons
raider8169 (3)- Plum, Septia, Talitha
Seraphim (3)- CounselWolf, sirdanilot, Slicey

One of these three players is scum, and being bus'ed.

I'll check again at end game. Here's my wager. If I'm wrong, I'll replace in 3 games. If I'm right, I'll mod a game.

/in

Protip: Saying "Well the random stage is over so unvote" and not doing anything else is scummy.

If we lynch him, it will be a lesson well learned.

unvote, vote: Slicey

Well reasoned in her other post.

Protip: Saying "Well the random stage is over so unvote" and not doing anything else is scummy.

If we lynch him, it will be a lesson well learned.

unvote, vote: Slicey

Your willing to lynch someone over just that?

On page 6, it's an excellent reason. Besides, I like to pressure these kinds of players, and he's opened the door.

He's not the only one who's done that, you know. Sentata did, just a couple of posts after him. I feel that lynching someone for that would be a tad over the top, unless they gave us additional reason when pressure was applied.

I feel something in this post, but not clear enough. Please remind me to comment on this later.

A) He joined in march. That isn't exactly "newb" territory anymore.
B) If we all had the mentality of "it was a stupid mistake!", we would never get anywhere.
C) It isn't a null-tell because you've done it as town. If there was a bit more sarcasm there, and he made it obvious it was a joke (which he made obvious it wasn't), I could see it. But when it comes right down to it, it s a scumtell.

RA) No, but would you say Three games on-site w/one of those I bailed out in the middle of be considered "newb"?
I will tell you this, though: I've played at least 8 games off this site, so that probably isn't considered "newb" at all.
RB) ... Too true. If this mentality didn't exist, then I would've been lynched in Kirby Mafia when I feel I should've: Day one.
RC)

Both

mentalities are merely opinion; Null because you did "it" before and "it" being a scumtell. Sure many people share the second thought, but then that makes it merely

popular

opinion.

Admitting he's scummy ?_? I don't understand this post at all.

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My post on M_K's case

Post 55: Random vote. Not much to look on.
Post 75: A random post. Not much to look on.
Post 88: Role fishing? Selective scumhunting? This post could be random; but it seemingly isn't.
Post 122: Admits he's scum?
Post 126: Defending himself by calling OGML's argument retarded.
Post 131: (Intended) misinterpretation.
Post 133: Backing up his speculation.
Post 161: Admitting he's scummy by answering all of Falmeaxe's questions "yes".
Post 181: Defending himself by joking around.
Post 217: Still joking around and OMGUS'ing OGML.

Worth a vote? yes.

Vote M_K

Also

FoS Santos

for lurking in a speed game.

[hp [leaves]]

Seraphim and Riceball is just noise right now. We're lynching M_K. This game has serious strict deadlines, lets not mess around.

Looks much more suspicious to me than

M_K, its not tunnel vision, its looking for scums that aren't your scumteam.

[hp [leaves]]

What is scummy here?

Four things.

Firstly, the obvious fact you appeal to meta and then attack me for using it.

Secondly, you Unvote at the beginning of your post, express suspicion of me but then fail to vote me. To paraphrase roflcopter, FoSing someone while not at least voting someone else (rather than simply voting the person) is scummy as all hell. It indicates a desire to attack the person while not being associated with their bandwagon.

Thirdly, if analysed this argument is getting into the realms of severe improbability.
The only scum motivation for MK having brought up RBT being a jester is that he is his scumbuddy trying to prevent him being lynched by suggesting he is a jester. The only motivation I have for defending MK on bad grounds is that I am his scumbuddy. Already hugely unlikely, unless you're arrogant enough to think you can catch 3 scum like that (and if you don't think all 3 of us are scum together you don't have *any* argument against us, because nothing else explains RBT's and then my response.)

Fourthly (and this isn't as big a scumtell in and of itself) you've basically deferred to Flameaxe's reasoning here. Coupled with you FoSing rather than voting me this very much looks like you want to attack me while not looking like you're attacking me so that you're not associated with my lynch when I flip town.

Vote hp [leaves]

And yes I'm sorry if I look lurky in this game- I got accused of the same in Election Mafia because the posts are big and hard to digest and I often (wrongly) favour posting in games where doing so takes less effort.

I think you misunderstood me. When replying to sirdanilot, I was saying I wasn't going to defend myself because I all had to protect myself was a meta defense.

On the vote/fos thing, I think I should change my playstyle a bit.

I like the pressure on Santos; but I don't think he's that scummy to have another vote on.

Unvote, Vote OGML

[hp [leaves]]

I believe my role is that of an 'actor', according to MafiaWiki. Otherwise, no, I am not third party( if you are thinking I win when I get to have the deciding vote, no I don't) and I win with the town. Also, I was given the okay to claim 'Kami' if that makes any difference if I have any case left to prove my innocence. I kind of got a jacked role

You have a

safeclaim

?

Very tempting to hammer; but we still have four days to create discussion.

Mod: Please note my sig

[hp [leaves]]

I'd stand with my last day's vote because of the old reasons with paranoia and OMGUS added; but I don't know the votecount and don't want to quickhammer and end this day's discussion.

[hp [leaves]]

Looking a hp[leaves]. THIS POST is interesting. He totally caught on Santos' mistake where he practically admitted to having a safeclaim. But hp[leaves] refrained from hammering. Why on Earth would a player refrain from hammering a player he believes has a SAFECLAIM, for cryin' out loud? What does it take for you to hammer somebody?

We still had four days to see people's reaction to Santos' lynch. It's a fifth of the whole day 1 and many things can be discussed during that time. Prematurely ending the day and the discussion doesn't seem to be helping town to me.

Going backwards in time, hp[leaves] said: "I like the pressure on Santos; but I don't think he's that scummy to have another vote on." It's like hp[leaves]really really really doesn't want that poor Santos to have another vote on... even after he slips up that he has a safeclaim!

It was before Santos slipped having a safeclaim. He was just Mr. Lurker-hammer and a big enough bandwagon had already piled on him.

Again, going back in time, hp[leaves]declined to honor the Santos wagon with his presence, rather he went against the prevailing wind to cast a vote on OGML. Given OMGL's own reactions to the Santos wagon, which is to browbeat us to lynch M_K instead, I suggest that hp[leaves] might have been doing some safe distancing from OGML. I don't recall OGML having any votes at the time. That vote was a weird move.

Santos wasn't lynch worthy at that time. My intention to vote OGML was to see his reaction.

[hp [leaves]]

We are currently 22 alive; is the majority 12 or 11?

Also we have three days.

[hp [leaves]]

Vote OGML

He deserves this.

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I also don't like hp[leaves] asking for more discussion in 470 because we have "4 more days" but then voting- hammering??? regardless the next irl day, in 486. I don't really find the vote itself scummy but it contradicted what he said earlier, which suggests what he was doing earlier was mere "spouting of pro-town platitudes".

It was not the hammer. It was just the L-1 vote.

[hp [leaves]]

You still win with town you know.

(do you?)

[hp [leaves]]

Mod: V/LA in the next three or four days.

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PLAYERS THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE AROUND:
hp [leaves] - didn't seem to be around. Not posting a lot, but I'm getting an honest town vibe from his posts. Should post more.

I was V/LA for the whole day 3

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I also believe hp[leaves] hasn't posted in two weeks so I'd really, really like to hear from him about the latest events

too much village idiots =/

[hp [leaves]]

Why do all townspeople stop defending themselves? Could something be stopping them?

[hp [leaves]]

Overall scumlevels that I sense:

Pear Bear - 90/100
Ortolan - 80/100
Setenta - 60/100
hp [leaves] - 50/100
Narsis - 45/100
Slicey - 50/100
Seraphim - 45/100
Raider - 45/100
DGB - 45/100

Everyone else is darn near neutral, in my eyes.

Vote: Ortolan

for now.

No vote for Pear Bear makes me want to

vote Jebus

[hp [leaves]]

Trying to avoid a mislynch, eh scumbag?

He's voting for his second choice?

Yes, because I don't want Pear Bear to be lynched if it's going to be done in less than half the time we've got until deadline.

I do want Pear Bear dead, the point of voting for my #2 is to get a reaction/response, and avoid the hyper-speedlynch we had for D3 and D4.

Did you feel a bandwagon of that speed starting? Why the paranoia? Trying to push scummate out of the way of bandwagon?

[hp [leaves]]

It can't be that fast unless he tries so hard to not defend himself.

He must have learned at least one thing or two from the last two lynches.

[hp [leaves]]

He asked to be replaced. Even though that isn't a defense, that will stop the bandwagon unless there is proof(confirmed sane cop guilty result).

[hp [leaves]]

The votes on Pear Bear serve no purpose unless we lynch him. He can't be pressured because he can't respond or make a reaction.

[hp [leaves]]

Besides, when did caution become a bad thing?

Over

caution.

Trying to not bring someone to L-1 or L-2 is fine; but otherwise it isn't.

[hp [leaves]]

Thought - massclaim? It seems most people in this game are vanilla, so I don't see how it would hurt.

AK may have gone for a reread; but we still have one scum here!

[hp [leaves]]

Jebus and WhereIsTony must post imo.

Mod please prod Jebus and WhereIsTony

[hp [leaves]]

That is good, as you claimed only "vanilla townie" earlier I was wondering if we could catch you obviously lying (as "vanilla townie" would not be a role in this game).

But it still doesn't prove anything. Luckily for us, Santos slipped that he had a safeclaim.

[hp [leaves]]

Way to derail the thread...

[hp [leaves]]

I believe my role is that of an 'actor', according to MafiaWiki. Otherwise, no, I am not third party( if you are thinking I win when I get to have the deciding vote, no I don't) and I win with the town.

Also, I was given the okay to claim 'Kami'

if that makes any difference if I have any case left to prove my innocence. I kind of got a jacked role

[hp [leaves]]

Dead

4. Santos, Precooked Mafia Goon (Anago), Lynched day one

13. GreenCrayons, Townie (Maguro), stabbed night one
20. OhGodMyLife, Townie (Ponzu), Lynched day two
19. Talitha, Knife Cop (

Sushi Chef

), stabbed night two
3. Flameaxe, Townie (Saba), Lynched day three
2. Plum, Townie (Tobiko), stabbed night three
24. Microphone_Kirby, Townie (Ikura), Lynched day four

This is the downside of the nameclaim. But it also helped us to catch Jebus!

[hp [leaves]]

You've made your point.

The italicised part seems scummy to me, why declare me definite scum? Suggesting a nameclaim doesn't make me scum at all.

Suggesting a nameclaim when it'll pretty much reveal all the power roles is a scumtell.

[hp [leaves]]

Come on guys, move votes for Jebus!

[hp [leaves]]

Good news =)

[hp [leaves]]

With one kill each night, either we have the best roleblocker or there is only one scum team.

[hp [leaves]]

We also could have a second group who can't kill.

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Vote Narsis

obvscum

[hp [leaves]]

He was the one who threw out the possibility of two scumgroups.

Then he didn't even care to stay and talk about it.

[hp [leaves]]

Vote: AK

L-1

Go town!

I'm now 70% convinced that AK is scum; but we don't have to end this day 11 days earlier than it should have been.

FoS all bandwagoners

[hp [leaves]]

Lol. I'd like a response from Qangan about his subtle rolefishing earlier.

Unvote, Vote Qanqan

[hp [leaves]]

I'm hoping for the same thing.

[hp [leaves]]

Can someone tell me what just happened?

[hp [leaves]]

Somebody thought zwet was on to something. I think now is the best time to start lynching lurkers especially lurkers who rolefish.

Vote: Qanqan

Lurky scum.

I agree.

Vote qanqan

[hp [leaves]]

And nothing Qangan has said all game has given me any reason to believe he's town.

Which therefore makes me scum?

He softclaimed neutral?

[hp [leaves]]

And, though it seems to have been forgotten/ignored, I don't like how in 262, hp tried to ignore the santos bandwagon.

Weren't I the one who pointed out he had a safeclaim?

[hp [leaves]]

Unvote, Vote RBT

Please explain your quickhammer.

[hp [leaves]]

I think hp is referring to RBT's hammer of AK yesterday.

Yeah, I was.

[hp [leaves]]

I'm not really "trying to look active". I don't have much to say, but I am saying it because it's better than nothing. "Looking active" is not my goal.

Meow.

Would you care to contribute?

[hp [leaves]]

DGB was scum. We'd better not trust her information.

[hp [leaves]]

DGB was scum. We'd better not trust her information.

FoS

for this post. Could be a way of protecting a scumbuddy.

Assuming she's correct, this leaves us raiderscum and tonyscum. Seraphim looks pretty town so we don't even need to look into that.

Actually I'm willing to test this.

Unvote, Vote WhereIsTony

[hp [leaves]]

the quote feature builds up much bigger tl;dr's.

[hp [leaves]]

too long; didn't read

overlooking the raider post above.

[hp [leaves]]

I do not approve of this lynch. We need more votes on WhereIsTony.

[hp [leaves]]

DGB's bet. I'm willing to test it.

[hp [leaves]]

Mod, V/LA for a week

[hp [leaves]]

We need to get over with millar and lynch RBT, for doing the same thing Santos did plus quickhammers.

Vote RBT

Something makes me think there is a role stopping people from defending themselves. If this is true, millar, unvote and revote yourself.

[hp [leaves]]

Question:

Can you vote for someone else other than yourself?

Answer:

I dont have that ability

Result:

Slicey (1) millar13

Maybe his vote just doesn't count. I don't really think he's lying.

[hp [leaves]]

I don't.

Unvote, Vote WhereIsTony

Will get back to RBT later.

[hp [leaves]]

is my vote not counting?

I don't know what you're talking about.

[hp [leaves]]

Unvote, Vote RBT

Back to you. Acting the same way Santos did, we have an obvscum right here.

[hp [leaves]]

RBT has as much as posts as OGML, which is semi-lurking. Also, her posts usually consist of agreeing with other people.

She also doesn't mind being the deciding vote if a choice has to be made!

[hp [leaves]]

RBT has as much as posts as OGML, which is semi-lurking. Also, her posts usually consist of agreeing with other people.

She also doesn't mind being the deciding vote if a choice has to be made!

Eh? Where'd OGML come into this?

Having as much posts in Day 8 as a person who died Day 2 is pretty much lurking imo.

[hp [leaves]]

It'd be cool if we could pressure Tony's replacement today.

[hp [leaves]]

RBT also needs more votes on her.

[hp [leaves]]

He hasn't done any quickhammers.

[hp [leaves]]

I am happy with a millar lynch. I was hoping to see him post suspicions and in this type of a game. I dont see that happening but I will give him a little longer before adding my vote.

What do you think about RBT?

[hp [leaves]]

And he also needs to do a full claim.

Like with flavor.

[hp [leaves]]

I swear, I'm never playing a game with millar again.

That.

This.

I hope he is scum.

[hp [leaves]]

Vote RBT

[hp [leaves]]

New suspect!

Unvote, Vote Slicey

Always going after DGB, even after it was confirmed she was scum.
Constantly pushing hard for (townie) lurker lynches, constantly ignoring RBT and WhereIsTony.
Not bothering enough with the active suspects.
His flip-flop on AK, his flip-flop on RBT.

[hp [leaves]]

Heh, well I'd say AK is pretty much confirmed town now.

This kinda doesn't surprise me. DGB's posts have been...off to say the least.

You said this on AK. Then you agreed with DGB again and voted AK.

[hp [leaves]]

Right now I am happy with a Minneko lynch however I am not sure how many votes are on him to add my own but as long as there is a couple mine is not needed right now.

@Minneko you have been in the game sense Feb and have posted that you will reread and post something. When are we to expect this?

What do you think about Slicey?

[hp [leaves]]

DGB usually is quite accurate about alignments when she's not scum.

What do you think about Slicey?

[hp [leaves]]

Zwet are you avoiding my question?

[hp [leaves]]

Mod: V/LA until Saturday

[hp [leaves]]

Gari - vanilla town

I don't have the flavor text :/

Meow.

Scumslip much?

[hp [leaves]]

The only relevant night action was that hp[leaves] swapped out Seraphim and DrippingGoofball (or was it SirDan?) preventing a townies death and taking out a pre-cooked goon.

DGB. I can post my full night actions if anyone wants.

[hp [leaves]]

I also love pseudo-vigging