Sushi Mafia! Game Over

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/confirm!

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Vote Slicey

Number 18 is always scum.

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Vote: Raider

18 = Numerical value of the Hebrew word for life certainly =/= always scum.

Only scum wish to live forever...

FoS Plum

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Vote: raider

Somebody

has to be 3rd on a bandwagon.

3rd bandwagon? What are the other 2? I though I was the only one in the lead. Go me!

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Sorry about the death. Its always a rough time.

And Raider ;I'm pretty sure Talitha meant 3rd on, as in 3rd person to vote you

Thanks, I see it now, I am a retard.

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VOTE:Riceballtail

Obviously sushi-scum. Speedlynch GO!

Worthy of a policy lynch here ^

I have played one too many games with another known self voter to go by a policy lynch. Though I am interested in why RBT did that.

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This has just been one, long random voting phase. What fried your brain?

Sarcasm, sir.

Unvote Vote FlameAxe

In an online forum I can never tell when someone is being sarcastic. This vote will stand as a reminder to that!

Next time it might be an FoS you all have been warned!

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/confirm

Sorry I was late. I just got back from Tahoe and realized roles and such went out while I was away.

What were you doing in Tahoe? Having a scum meeting?

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Dudes, lyncher speculation

and

jester speculation

in one post

! More votes for M_K please.

Not sure if you are being serious when I read that post I understood it to be him joking around and not being serious with that. I could be mistaken, wouldnt be the first.

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Protip: Saying "Well the random stage is over so unvote" and not doing anything else is scummy.

If we lynch him, it will be a lesson well learned.

unvote, vote: Slicey

Your willing to lynch someone over just that?

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Protip: Saying "Well the random stage is over so unvote" and not doing anything else is scummy.

If we lynch him, it will be a lesson well learned.

unvote, vote: Slicey

Your willing to lynch someone over just that?

On page 6, it's an excellent reason. Besides, I like to pressure these kinds of players, and he's opened the door.

He's not the only one who's done that, you know. Sentata did, just a couple of posts after him. I feel that lynching someone for that would be a tad over the top, unless they gave us additional reason when pressure was applied.

I agree having it go so far to a lynch is bad however pressure is always good. I do not think enough people would back it to go to a lynch.

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Is pressure an anyone *always* good in your opinion Raider?

Pressure is not a bad thing, so a quick answer would be yes pressure is always good. However sometimes the person under pressure can snap and town or scum just ruin the game or say something that would get them lynched as town or scum. Too much pressure can be bad in some situations. This is in my limited experience of course and my personal opinion.

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Sorry I am falling behind, something happened and the game was removed from my watched topic. Will catch up and post today.

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Got about half way through my reread and the wife is kicking me off the computer. For those that didnt know we have a semi new baby and the wife likes to feed the baby while she is on the computer.

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@raider, the baby doesn't need food. It needs cocaine!!!! :p

Ummm yeah..not so much.

The MK case seems is being pushed hard but is seems like it is just being rushed into because we have deadlines. Even though their are deadlines it does not mean everyone needs to focus on just that one person.

I too would like it sumed up as I did not see anything lynch worthy in my reread but as I have 10 minutes here and there to read I may have missed something.

Or is the whole case just meant to kill the 3 people so everyone does not need to wait and figure out if DGB is going to replace or mod?

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We seem to have at least 4 lurkers, pear bear, santos, alvinz and septia. Don't shoot me if I forgot one.

In my opinion, you cannot classify the latter two as actively lurking anymore since they haven't posted in a while. If they pop in with another useless post then yes I could see how they are actively lurking together with pear bear and santos.

Lurker lynches, however, are mostly useless and bad town play. The only exception I make to this is Santos, for the reasons I posted (in short: not willing to discuss, but willing to hammer).

The only thing we can do to conventional lurkers (who just don't post) is to request for them to be replaced out. The only thing we can do with active, but otherwise not scummy lurkers is to FoS them and request them to post. We can only lynch them if nobody has a suspect, which will not happen. But of course there are other ways, most of which will stop working if I reveal them (but are probably obvious enough for the more experienced players). The only thing we can do with active, scummy lurkers is to lynch them. In fact, I would recommend doing so.

You forget me, however I do not concider myself lurking so much as I just get sidetracked. I hate day one as there is not much information to concider and I am horrible at trying to pick out scum from just that. I like looking at voting patterns and figure out things by peoples actions and not just words.

Right now the case on MK seems weak however by weak I mean MK has said a bunch of little things that is quickly adding up. Joking around is ok at any point in the game as it is still a game but if the joking around is all the person does then it is another story. As it stands I am ok with an MK lynch.

Lynching lurkers for the sake of lynching lurkers would make this a quick game. There are always going to be lurkers but its the ones that get replaced are the ones I really dislike. To get replaced takes a while on top of the time it takes for the mod to realize someone needs to be replaced. In this game that could be the span of the entire day. Just something to be aware about for the time being.

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Yes, I am semi-lurking, but I am not hesitating to post; I just don't have much to add at the moment as most of the discussion usually works itself out. I'm in no hurry to lynch anyone: If a decision needs to be made, then I don't mind being the deciding vote...

Yeah.

Admits to lurking but calls it 'semi' lurking. Says he doesn't have much to add, but waits by the sidelines for discussions to 'work themselves out' without input from him, whatever he means by 'discussions working themselves out.'

However, this wimp who has, by his own admission, little to say, is willing to hammer.

ANYBODY.

He's waiting for the discussion to work itself out, ie,

get to lynch minus one

. Right? That's the gist of it.

And when we're at lynch minus one, whoever is being lynched, he's willing to hammer. It doesn't matter who. As long as it's not him.

He's just Mr. Silent-Semilurker-Hammer. When we need a hammer, he'll be there. But not for anything else. For anything but the hammer, count him out. He just doesn't have much to say.

I'm sorry folks but this is scum all the way.

unvote, vote: Santos

I never read it that way but it does make sense. I would like a response from him before I add my vote.

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Ditto. What do you have to say to DGB's accusation, Mr. Silent-Semilurker-Hammer?

It not always a scum tell as townies do it as well however he response to it means a lot. It is lynch worth on a first day as I think we will get ride of an unproductive member and set a precedence for all lurkers. Granted after the first day I tend to post more as I have more to go off from and the votes are something I can start looking into.

Did that answer your question or were you looking for something different?

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Ditto. What do you have to say to DGB's accusation, Mr. Silent-Semilurker-Hammer?

It not always a scum tell as townies do it as well however he response to it means a lot. It is lynch worth on a first day as I think we will get ride of an unproductive member and set a precedence for all lurkers. Granted after the first day I tend to post more as I have more to go off from and the votes are something I can start looking into.

Did that answer your question or were you looking for something different?

I believe that the question was meant for Santos.

It's interesting how you feel it applies to you enough that you would not recognize this obvious fact.

He quoted me and said you. That seemed like it was directed at me.

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Yeah was thinking he would post something explaining something as too why he is willing to hammer but nothing else. That goes beyond lurking.

Unvote, Vote Santos

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Raider, M_K scumpair is making itself obvious.

Guess not obvious enough as I dont see it but feel free not to explain more

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Seriously guys,

why

aren't we lynching M_K?

Because Santos admited that he is willing to hammer and nothing else. I think that saved M_K a day.

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Mod

I changed my vote to Santos in post 255.

Fixed

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I can see OGML busing Santos. He was pushing hard for a M_K lynch and ignored the scum tells that even I picked up on. Im happy with a OGML lynch however I wish to read back Day one and see if I notice anything else.

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Im good with a OGML lynch however I wish to sum up my case before I place my vote.

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I find the way raider is posting just a little, I dunno, odd. I can't quite say why, but I do. I'm gonna think about that, and see what I come up with.

My bad if I dont have the time to put together my case, maybe I should not vote until I have such time....oh wait that is what I am doing

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Yeah I have been really busy lately. I hope to catch up sooner then later.

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@OGML,

Your long post alone makes me think you are scum. You accuse everyone of being scum or whatnot just because they think you may be scum. You dont seem to care at all that the votes are how we are going to determine if you are scum or not. Im convinced you are scum.

Vote OGML

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@OGML,

Your long post alone makes me think you are scum. You accuse everyone of being scum or whatnot just because they think you may be scum. You dont seem to care at all that the votes are how we are going to determine if you are scum or not. Im convinced you are scum.

Vote OGML

Took you long enough.

I was not sure before that post if you were scum. Why else would you jump on everyone. I originally said I wanted to look into it but I guess that was too much for you. You are just now trying to blame everyone who are your scum partners?

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What exactly do you guys want me to say in my defense?

Yes, I switched to the Santos wagon after aggressively pursuing an alternate lynch. Yes, my vote was late on the wagon. I don't deny these facts, thats just how things went down. What else is there?

And for those of you who seem to be intimating that I am literally calling every single person I named scum, I know you're all smarter than that. No there aren't 11 scum in this game, those are the people I'm suspicious of. You can safely add sirdanilot to the list.

My parting wish is for riceballtail to get nk'd tonight or lynched tomorrow. He's scum. If anyone has the brass to help me lynch him today say so and I'm all over it.

Why are you voting someone other then RBT if you are so sure he is scum?

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I will be gone starting tomorrow until Monday

. In the meantime OGML needs to be lynched.

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Talitha might have investigated OGML and got an innocent...

If that was the case wouldnt he have said something a little more to that effect? I got the impression that is was more of a gut feeling from Talitha.

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So far I have a town read on Sentata, Farkshinsoup and Plum. They seem genuine and reasonable. Though Im not sure I agree with everything they say they do seem townie to me.

I need to read up on some other people. Having a hard time focusing for more then 2 seconds on something, stupid cold.

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So it seems that the kill method is "stabbed". It has been the only kill method and it was used in both nights.

I thought Talitha was a KNIFE COP. Wouldnt it make sense that there would be a KNIFE MAFIA that kills be stabbing people.

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What's wrong with vanilla sushi?

I bet pregnant women crave it.

Well I would take that bet as my wife was preggo last year and never craved that

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I'm clarifying that my claim was 100% fake as I have not yet got my role PM. I also second DGB's questions.

Though I agree with the questions being asked and I am looking forward to an answer I would rather comment on how did you came up with that role you made up as I couldnt even understand it.

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The case on flameaxe seems to only be based on him lurking. Is there something more to it?

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Flameaxe you are at what L-2? How about a claim?

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Yes, lets wait around 10 more days until we lynch Flameaxe. It makes perfect sense! Especially because he was giving up!

While I agree that the bandwagon went extremely fast I saw no reason to join it so quickly. I would rather have waited a little longer as the deadline was still far away. He did give up and I have never seen him play that way. It was a sign something was wrong but in this case most people simply guessed wrong at the signs. I dont hold everybody responsible for it but I am sure there were scum on the wagon just not sure who yet.

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Well... I'm a little surprised how f***ing fast Day Two went by: 4 (RL) Days out of 14? WTF!?!? Shocked

I think you meant to say that this was quoted from MK.

On other news, during the first night Green Crayons killed. If I am not mistaken GC didnt draw any attention to himself the first day. I forgot about this until now but looking at GC is isolation the only person who threatened him was MK. Other then that he seemed really townie.

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Why I didn't give my opinions before Flameaxe's lynch:

none of your business

.

Pro-town player right here!

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Oi! What the heck is that supposed to mean, MK? Are you trying to be uncooperative?

I tried Cooperative and it didn't do shit... so yes.

This feels much better, TBH.

How could you be so pissed about the flameaxe wagon when you are now doing the same stuff he was doing?

Vote MK

I was hoping you would be using this time to explain yourself, guess not.

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Sigh. This is a jester tell, not a scumtell. What do we do now?

Do we have any reason to think there is a jester role in this game? I always thought those games would have that hinted in the title or flavor or something.

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How could you be so pissed about the flameaxe wagon when you are now doing the same stuff he was doing?

Vote MK

I was hoping you would be using this time to explain yourself, guess not.

Explain what? I said all I could.

Why I didn't give my opinions before Flameaxe's lynch: none of your business.

This

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The last 2 days have gone way too fast. The person lynched gave up without any real attempt at defending themselves. Hard to get much from the bandwagon based off of that.

Never had a scum nightkill and no dead townies before. Yet there has continually been only one night kill. Dont really see how the scum could be doing the killing as they took out on of their own. Maybe 2 scum groups? Bunch of really lucky doctors or something?

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Agreed with the first point, however both bandwagons were fairly justified though and when someone refuses to claim you generally assume scum.

That is what I most dislike about them. They were quick lynches but justified ones, town or scum could have hide in the bandwagons and the information we can get out of normal bandwagons just are not there.

If it was not for the nightkill of a scum we would be in a bad position but we are down 2 scum and 6 town. I guess that is on par but it still doesnt sit right.

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I suppose so. The other thing that doesn't make sense is how can a mafia group that can't kill even win?

I doubt that is the case, mafia will have a way. We have to assume the game is balanced so they have to have some sort of means.

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I would like to hear from Pear Bear before I decide to add my vote or not. Right now I am leaning towards he is scum but as things have been going he will be lynched by the time I check the forum tomorrow. Everyone please give him a chance to post.

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No.

How can you expect someone to take it seriously if you cant show proof?

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Is Pear Bear going to be post anything or not? Was hoping to come back and find something.

Mod Prod Pear Bear

if this has not happened already.

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This game is dying pretty quickly D: (Not to point out the obvious)

Im waiting for Pear Bear to post, if he doesnt that will be today's lynch.

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Why do all townspeople stop defending themselves? Could something be stopping them?

Never heard of something like this before but I dont think it would be the case as just the last 2 lynches didnt defend themselves everyone before them did.

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Go on... you have specifics or anything, or do you expect me to automatically know what you're thinking about?

zwet has been like that alot today. I am not sure what to make of it.

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Did you feel a bandwagon of that speed starting? Why the paranoia? Trying to push scummate out of the way of bandwagon?

I really dont like this, the last 2 bandwagons were fast and you think that this one would not be just as fast? Plus if someone was to not check the forum for a day it could be too late and they would not have the time to stop the quick lynch.

Also not sure how I feel about Pear Bear needing to be replaced. It puts his bandwagon on hold until a replacement can be found and even then the questions would not be able to be answered. Plus as we are on a time crunch if could cause problems with that.

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It can't be that fast unless he tries so hard to not defend himself.

He must have learned at least one thing or two from the last two lynches.

Right but at this point there has been no defense so that shows me that it could happen.

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He asked to be replaced. Even though that isn't a defense, that will stop the bandwagon unless there is proof(confirmed sane cop guilty result).

Somehow I doubt that, this would be a perfect time for people to jump on the bandwagon and let their vote sit there until the deadline.

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I'm going to excuse myself from posting anything valuable in the first day or two untill I've read the thread properly through.

Looking forward to play a game with such a fantastic theme tho

Is this your first mafia game? Not meaning that as an insult just wondering.

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I can see that I've got quite some votes on me.. Well all i can say at this point is that the one I've replaced has been playing a townie role badly..

That is all you can say? No explanation? Your just a townie? Not even a I think so and so is scum?

Vote AK

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EBWOP:

Mass Claim I think it a bad idea at this point in the game.

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DGB I don't really get your point.. Are you accusing me of acting scummy, and at the same time doing pro-town actions?

No, I'm trying to give you more chances to gauge your alignment. I suggested that you you your impression of every currently living player for starters.

I will, when i get time to do so.. I just wanted to show you all that i wasn't lurking or anything, but actually reading.. I haven't made it past page 16 yet, had a heck of a long dag at school so..
But I'll make a nice long post about every player alive when I'm through all the 38 pages, and I promise that it'll be a good amount of time before the deadline

When you do it I wouldnt go by the player list on the first post as it has not been updated in case you have not seen it yet.

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Um... AK actually started being helpful. Did everyone miss this?

I did see this however the helpfulness has not been completed to a point where AK is active and up todate in everything.

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And we should quicklynch him because he has the potential of contributing fully?

NO!

However the votes should hold as pressure to ensure he gets it done. At least for the time being that is what I am doing with my vote. I dont have a real reason to not be voting him.

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FoS: raider8169

The above post should get you upset also.

Care to explain why?

He said he would catch up and I am waiting for that. I am not trying to push his lynch nor I am wanting more people to join. Just because AK said he would do it does not change anything.

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Patience is a virtue.

Goes great with a deadline approaching. The more I start to think we need to look elsewhere the more I see people not posting and those that say they will dont do so.

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When exactly is the deadline? (Include timezone )

According to the rules and when today started I would say the 21th. As the in place deadline is 2 weeks and today started on the 26th of Feb.

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Sigh.

Vote: AK

We kill raider tomorrow.

Wait, what!

You add your vote when I said not too, then say you will kill me tomorrow? What the hell are you smoking? This makes no sense. You are looking for the kill when I just want the pressure to make him post. If we were closer to the deadline I dont think it would be an issue but we still have a little bit of time.

In short you join my bandwagon so you can lynch me tomorrow?

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I'm 14, DGB, but I start going a little nuts the closer it gets to midnight. Raider, if it gets people to believe AK and unvote him, then I will wait to lynch you tomorrow. Qangan, I claimed Wasabi, btw. Now let's get back to Jebus...

Unvote; Vote: Jebus

AK's post just whacked at my scumdar, largely because of his "gut feeling" explanation of his Ort suspicions. It's too late in the game to be relying on purely gut for cases. However, I'm somewhat inclined to believe his claim, although it probably could go either way. I'm keeping my vote on him.

Are you forgetting what you are posting in this game. Your vote is for Jebus yet you just said you are keeping your voting on AK.

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Long live inactivity.. Where has everybody gone?

Im still here. Are you fully caught up and everything?

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Been for quite a while.. You're here = you're lurking..? Atleast you're not posting any comments on the DGB case..

I guess Im a behind then, if the game slows down I tend to lurk. Bad habit or something I guess. Will catch up soon working on homework now.

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Just went back attempting to catch up.

DBG posts alot and though did disappear for a bit that is just going to happen from time to time. I dont think not posting in a game for a little while means anything unless that is a constant thing. Even then it is not always scummy but maybe someone play style. DBG's logic is generally correct but when there is a lynch it takes what 7-9 people? Its seem easier to blame the more vocal people but they are only one of the 7-9 votes. Dont forget about the rest of the voters and even the people that do not vote at all or just leave there vote on the same person all day even though there is not a reason for it. Look at Azhrei, he has been opportunistic follower for most of the game. What does that mean?

Didnt DBG stop a wagon or atleast slow it down when it started forming on PB after he made some scummy comments?

@ AK, what are we suppose to think when a player self-votes, refuses to claim or even defend themselves?

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Just went back attempting to catch up.
Look at Azhrei, he has been opportunistic follower for most of the game. What does that mean?

But so has DGB kinda. >_>

DBG at least posts a case and goes into detail for her votes. While many others just tack on a vote and slide under the radar.

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@AK, I did comment on your case or are you just looking for more?

Unvote, Vote Jebus

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Mod

and everybody else, I was hoping the hotel I am staying at was going to have wireless in the rooms however I found the one place that does not. Just so everyone knows for the rest of the week I will be LA

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[quote="Azhrei"Now, look at numbers of the dead scum. 4, 5 and 7. Is it just me, or is that more than a little coincidental? Now, I'm not saying we should go lynch orto just because he's number 6, but it's still kinda odd how the three scum are all clumped like that.[/quote]

That is really odd but we have to assume that the roles were random.

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Vote AK

The pressure on AK is good, but his defense gives me the impression that he is pawning off everything on the person he replaced. Seems to me like he is hiding something.

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@Raider
What more can I say? What is it that you want from me?

What made you think DGB was scum? I got the impression you were setting up a bus using Meta to back it up thinking DGB was going to be killed anyways. Once your review was done you voted fro DGB but that was it, you did not press anything and it seemed like you were resting your vote there until you could jump to another lynch. With DGB flipping scum it seems you had inside information and that is what I think you have been hiding.

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I don't care when AK gets lynched, as long as he gets lynched. I want to hear Qanqan, Minineko and WhereisTony's suspicions.

We do have a lot of people that are just lurking the hell out of this game. It might be worthy of something to look into but without them posting we have nothing to go off from. Perfect place for more scum to hide in.

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Ugh, we need a mass prod or something.

Not a mass prod! I am here dont prod me!

I agree that people do need to be prodded or replaced.

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Somebody thought zwet was on to something. I think now is the best time to start lynching lurkers especially lurkers who rolefish.

Vote: Qanqan

Lurky scum.

Qanqan was the lurker you picked because...?

Not saying it is a bad idea but just wondering why that lurker is the one you are jumping on first.

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He was also rolefishing.

Yeah that is true however still wondering if there was anything else.

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Actually, I'm getting a town read from Qangan now. I'm trying to force all the lurkers to come from their hidey holes.

Unvote
Vote: Minneko

This seems like a good idea however a really quick lynch could come out of these causing problems. As long as that does not happen it really is not a problem because the added votes will give us information even though it is a pattern in this game to not defend themselves.

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This seems like a good idea however a really quick lynch could come out of these causing problems. As long as that does not happen it really is not a problem because the added votes will give us information even though it is a pattern in this game to not defend themselves.

I can't really figure out why exactly, but this post seems kind of forced. Might just be lack of sleep.

"Quick lynches are bad but slow lynches are fine because the votes will give us information and no one in this game defends themselves much"

Maybe it's because it's poorly worded and doesn't actually say anything?

Meow.

Its in response to some people just tossing their votes around. I do not think that is a bad thing to do as it is getting some of the lurkers out and back into the game.

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while both town and scum?

He has won games because of lurking as scum and they ignored him. He has lost games as town for lurking and they lynched him. Its impossible to say one way or the other which side he is on but every once in a while he has something good to say.

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Wouldn't that mean RBT's vote is therefore hollow, since with that K7 definition Minineko could be either town or scum. (But more likely town)

Could be, not sure. Hard to tell without something more to go on.

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Right now I am supportive of a minineko lynch but before I add my vote I would like to look at a couple other people first.

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Right now I am supportive of a minineko lynch but before I add my vote I would like to look at a couple other people first.

and who would those people be? I'm not disagreeing that others need some questioning and I'm in support for lynching Minineko right now but Qanqan, Seraphim and hp[leaves] are rating high on my scum-o-metre.

To be honest I dont remember that is why I am making a point of saying something before I do it. I am looking back at the player list and not remember much of what a few players have done this game so those ones will be my main focus.

Of course as minineko was pointed at first I am sure that is going to be today's lynch regardless as that is the way this game has been going.

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Well, if you think there's a better lynch candidate, then present your case on that person. Don't just follow the crowd.

This part is given, and if I do find someone else worth of being lynched instead I will be sure to make a case. I hope to do it soon but tomorrow I am going out of state though I will still have access it will be limited to an hour or so here and there with many other things I need to do at the same time. Fun stuff.

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For a speed game, we're awful quiet.

I agree though I am not helping matters. Time is tuff right now for me. I hate college takes up too much of my time! Plus I am staying in a hotel right now. No internet in my room

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Archaist replaces EA starting....

....

now!

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Im on crack delete that last post please.

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too long; didn't read

overlooking the raider post above.

This is a good thing, I have been driving all day and just got home when I posted that in the wrong thread. At least I am suppose to be home all weekend so that means I should have free time to look at a few people.

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Looking at WhereIsTony did not take long at all with only 9 posts and they are all really just one liners. He has been in the game for a month with nothing to show for it. I am very happy with his lynch. The only person he has accused is Zwet but never voted for him. His vote is currently on minineko and his reason is because the kettle is black.

I am happy with a WhereIsTony lynch.

Vote WhereIsTony

Anyone know when the deadline is? I will hammer if needed but I would rather see a tony lynch.

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This isn't a bad reason, but I fail to see how Mini's lurking is better than Tony's lurking, nor how Mini's scummy posts are better than Tony's opportunism. *Blargh, sorry for pulling a BM the last couple posts guys.*

This WhereIsTony wagon reeks. I much prefer the Mini wagon ATM.

What reeks about it? The mini wagon seems forced as most of this games lynches have been. There is not much of a difference but I think mini has posted more and has had a little bit of content in there.

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I am not sure where I acted scummy. I am voting for minn because of his lurking, while at the same time admitting my own inactivity.

Exactly, you admite to doing it. Yet, I do not see any effort to change it.

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Of course as minineko was pointed at first I am sure that is going to be today's lynch regardless as that is the way this game has been going.

I don't like you suggesting his lynch is a foregone conclusion like this.

Either do I but it seems this game does just that. It good to see a few different bandwagons but it would have been nicer at the start of the day not when we are getting so close to the deadline.

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You will find out at the end of the today hopefully

Why hopefully? Are you saying that no matter what he claims you will ignore it?

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I hope everyone is aware that there is a deadline within a day. I am ok with a minieko or a whereistony lynch. I prefer a whereistony lynch.

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Unvote; Vote: Millar13

Tony lynch tomorrow then?

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Vote WhereIsTony

Im still happy with this being today's lynch.

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Lynches need a majority which has not happened. You can at least defend your play or else I will vote you. If you want people to respect you, stop whining.

I think it was proven yesterday that a deciding vote could not be reached, or even a deadline lynch. Instead more votes on Tony please.

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Raider. Explain.

Whats there to explain? We were not able to get enough votes for a lynch yesterday so that tells me that it is not a good lynch right now. I think a WhereisTony lynch is much better.

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Why is a WhereIsTony lynch better? This logic is bullshit.

Reread yesterday my case is somewhere in there. I dont have time to find it right now.

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Vote:Millar

Seems pretty scummy too me

Seriously? Why is this the popular thing to do this game?

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He lied but it seems he just wants to be dead. Not sure if that is a scum tactic or what but it is odd.

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What did the posts say?

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Is this the reason you're voting WIT? Because you could say this for Minineko and Qanqan/Millar as well.

You could, but I would like to see Tony have the pressure first to get him to start posting. We only have a couple people paying attention to this game allowing lurkers to just sit tight.

Do you have a better plan of action?

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Yes I do. Voting Millar.

What happened yesterday with voting millar? I even joined up to help at the end and it was not enough. Why do you think this is a better course of action?

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Unvote

No point in trying to kill a player for lurking if they are being replaced. I need to review the others and see which one is worth going after while the replacement catches up.

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Im here everyone, was hoping to be able to review but the end of my classes are coming up and the workload has increased. I hope to post something better today.

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I refuse to vote anyone but millar today.

With posts like this, how could we ever lose!

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I could give you the same no reason, no real proof Slicey has given you. Or you could just not vote me

Please do so.

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Ungh, Millar is just being childish, not playing properly, and I find it likely that he will stay the same if we let him live. He is an infinitely better lynch than RBT, I think.

Town don't want to remove town players...as killing one increases the liklehood of scum hitting a power role at night. unless you think im scum, that a anti-town play

You're one to talk about a player being anti-town. That is exactly what you are doing.

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maybe im bluffing...double bluffing or even triple...ooooh

Maybe, but now is this helping town any?

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not neccersarily..all im saying is the current reason are centred around me being scummy

I dont understand what you are trying to say. Can you reword it for me?

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So far people want me lynched...because I am vague or just random. No real signs of scum has actually really mean shown at all

I disagree, you have lied, voted yourself and have been overall anti-town, which includes not defending yourself before. You really should have been lynched already for it but I am not ready see you dead yet.

I would like to see you defend yourself and make a list of people you think are scum.

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At the moment I really haven't seen anything. When I went over topic, Serpahim seemed scummy but his claim at L-1 seemed convincign considering he thought he was dead. All the others scummy looking players are already dead.

Do you think your bandwagon is scum driven then? If so, who do you think the scum members are?

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I am happy with a millar lynch. I was hoping to see him post suspicions and in this type of a game. I dont see that happening but I will give him a little longer before adding my vote.

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I am happy with a millar lynch. I was hoping to see him post suspicions and in this type of a game. I dont see that happening but I will give him a little longer before adding my vote.

What do you think about RBT?

I dont recall anything that made RBT stand out to me. Though I have never read her posts in isolation. I will have to do that before I can answer the question.

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Finished reading over RBT. I see all lurking going on but sadly its no different then the rest of the lurkers we have in this game. I think pressure would be good however I do not think it will do any good this close to the deadline. It is something worthy to look into tomorrow.

That sad I do not think there is anything better then a millar lynch right now.

Vote millar13

Should be L-1

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I have no problem with dead people joining back in. Assuming they were active so its less for them to catch up on.

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I would like to hear from RBT before I decide anything.

I would also like to hear from Minineko.

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^^ me, obviously. Sorry.

So your a boy and a girl? Im confused...

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Right now I am happy with a Minneko lynch however I am not sure how many votes are on him to add my own but as long as there is a couple mine is not needed right now.

@Minneko you have been in the game sense Feb and have posted that you will reread and post something. When are we to expect this?

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I don't see the minimeko case that well, although her mild IIoA might build up into something solid if she continues that behavior.

This is one of my problems is that minimeko is just lurking but saying he will post something and then not doing it. Out of his last 3 posts 2 of them were those types of posts.

The pressure it meant to try and get them to be active in the game. Though as it is getting down to only a handful of people now the lurkers are going to decide the game.

At this point I do not think the lurkers should be able to continue, though I would much rather them be replaced but even if that is the case we have little to go off from and the game would be in their hands.

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What do you think about Slicey?

Slicey has been active and seems to have similar thinking to mine. Though I hated the post about only willing to vote millar but I do not see that as scummy by itself. I do see hints of tunnel vision in his posts but again that is not always scummy.

It seems there are many smalls things that could add up to make the signs of scum but they are not hitting my radar right now. Something to keep an eye on not something I see as lynch worthy right now.

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PRUFT.

I do not know this one, what is it?

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Zwet are you avoiding my question?

What question?

DGB usually is quite accurate about alignments when she's not scum.

What do you think about Slicey?

Have you been reading the posts?

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I feel there's one mafia group (I'd say there's one or two left at this point) and an SK. So out of the 8 people left, 2-3 of them are scum. I'd say that at least one of the lurkers is scum, if not both.[/i]

How do you tie in the one kill per night? My only idea is that the mafia do not have a night kill. It makes sense but I have never seen it in a mafia game before.

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Isn't RBT voting Seraph?

Nah, she wasn't voting anybody.

RBT just voted in her last post.

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Mod

and everyone else...

What I Pm'd you about a while back has happened and unfortunatly I can not commit anymore

I can only get on to this site once every few days and that is just crappy and only going to stale this game more then it already is. Until you can replace me, I will check in when I can and post when I can. For everyone else to not hold this agianst the person who replaces me I have been deployed and when you are in the middle east internet access is not always easy. Sorry everyone.

Back to the game I like a minineko lynch.

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...wow. Good luck raider.

Back to the game, raider, if you want a minineko lynch, why not vote for him?

Thanks, it was 110 out today, yesterday it was 115.

Not that it matters now as the hammer has been dropped, however I was really hoping to hear from minineko first. I also had no clue when the deadline is so and I didnt want to rush anything if we didnt need too.

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http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/QSWaweX7kRBLe <-- Our QT

Wish I could have been more active towards the end however I was really busy. Its cool I didnt need to be replaced however I would have rather got the win. I had no clue the other mafia was 4 people. I thought there was an SK or something making the kills. For that reason we were just pushing whatever lynches we could and of course you guys would have just helped us along as long as it wasnt one of your own.

Of course if you look back and DGB's promise...

Good job other scum