Sushi Mafia! Game Over

[Jebus]

Confirmed.

[Jebus]

/confirm

CLAIM:Riceball

Oh snap!

I've never liked straight onigiri before

[Jebus]

It does indeed taste like raw fish, though I prefer unagi or kane to fish fish

Rice can be good too, though. And soy sauce. Yummy, yummy soy sauce :3

[Jebus]

Just please don't make this game punny xD

[Jebus]

Vote: Sirdanalot

Bad translators are baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

[Jebus]

Vote: Sirdanalot

Bad translators are baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Do you realize that this blasphemy of my user name is sufficient reason to policy lynch you right now?

The use of bad translators to confirm role obviously suggests you are a Japanese person, which means you eat sushi, which means you're anti-town.

Eat that, policy lynch >:0

[Jebus]

To add to the polysyllabic S names in this game, Setanta replaces Badguy! Everyone welcome him to the game.

I prefer 7, thanks

[Jebus]

unvote
Vote: Riceballtail

Need moar puns!

[Jebus]

VOTE:Riceballtail

Obviously sushi-scum. Speedlynch GO!

Worthy of a policy lynch here ^

[Jebus]

I used to jump on self voters like crazy, but in my experience it is too minor to make it more likely for the self-voter to be scum. Then again, I do appreciate people going after this incy-wincy tiny little scum tell instead of just joking around.

I was joking when I said to policy lynch, to be honest xD

[Jebus]

Why, you ask?

Here, I'm thinking Seraphim was some sort of lyncher...

Are you some sort of suicidal jester

That's why.

Same reasoning for me.

unvote, Vote: Microphone Kirby

[Jebus]

Here, finishing up re-read.

[Jebus]

Here's my super-long readup post.


4. Santos, Precooked Mafia Goon (Anago), Lynched day one
13. GreenCrayons, Townie (Maguro), stabbed night one

For my reference ^

Post 1-27 - Confirmations
Post 28-34 - puns
Post 35 - game starts, first random vote

Post 42 - Plum uses RVS logic for defense.
Post 57 - Hybris notes how player numbers may = scum.
Post 62 - Seraphim asks for more votes on the RBT wagon.
Post 73 - More Seraphim on RBT wagon.

I'm assuming it's 13 to lynch?

Actually, no. Its twelve due to the secret role in the game that makes all lynches to need one less vote while alive.

lolumwot?
Post 77 - RBT self-votes.
Post 78 - Sirdanilot votes Hybris for Post 74.
Post 79 - Azhrei makes note of RBT but does nothing.
Post 81 - GreenCrayons votes RBT becuase he hates D1 self voters.
Post 85 - More Seraphim pushing wagon on RBT
Post 88 - MK's note of Seraphim being a lyncher or something. Probably nothing.
Post 92 - Seraphim saying it's only been one long RVS. I disagree, but meh. Noted, anyway.
Post 100 - OGML votes MK, with no other text.
Post 103 - Read yourself, OGML explains his vote. Good points, but why didn't he post that in 100?
Post 112 - RBT unvotes self, and justifies it as a sushi pun.
Post 115 - Read yourself. Raider seems a little too serious, though made me laugh at the same time.
Post 116 - Sirdanilot makes mini-case on Seraphim (with a vote), followed by an FoS on RBT for being surprised at the reaction to her self-vote.
Post 117 - Read yourself. Setenta (scum) makes minor connection to Seraphim, Sirdanilot, and RBT.
Post 118 - OGML pushes MK wagon.
Post 119 - Slicey agrees with Sirdanilot, and votes Seraphim.
Post 122 - MK responds to OGML's vote/wagon on him, though inadequately imo. (read yourself).
Post 123 - OGML speculates Raider as scumpartner to MK.
Post 126 - More of MK's inadequate defense. (Read)
Post 128 - Seraphim makes a case on three - MK, Slicey, and Sirdanilot.
Post 131 - MK's. Not sure what to say.
Post 136-138 - Ort's puts minor reason for unvoting MK.
Post 139 - Sirdanilot is displeased with Seraphim's 128.
Post 140 - Goes against Ort's reasoning for unvoting MK.
Post 142 - DGB makes a guess at some scum in this game. Nothing to really further the game, though.
Post 149 - DGB comes in to pressure Slicey. Legitimate, imo.
Post 150 - More OGML pushing for MK wagon.
Post 160 - MK responding to DGB's 142. Seems sure DGB is wrong, sort of.
Post 162 - Plum recap. Not bad.
Post 165 - Slicey says not voting for lack of scummyness to vote for. Wha?
Post 166 - OGML asks Slicey what he thinks about MK.
Post 172 - A few things here. Says for some reason posts 161-2 (made by plum) scream anti-town (I disagree). Also says can back the RBT wagon (and does), but can't be confident about it (?)
Post 175-177 - Talitha defends Slicey and votes MK for OGML's reasoning.
Post 178 - Sirdanilot reinforces vote on Seraphim (read this one, strong post imo)
Post 182 - More OGML against MK.
Post 183 - RBT votes Seraphim (read this)
Post 184 - Seraphim calls 183 an OMGUS.
Post 188 - OGML strongly pushing MK lynch.
Post 190 - Hybris comes in, and doesn't see any of the three main cases (and requests a repost of such info).
Post 215 - Seraphim picks out a random lurker, who happens to be Santos, confirmed scum. Coincidence? Probably.
Post 223 - Santos saying he had nothing to say. Why did nobody say something?
Post 225 - HP[leaves] with a solid post on MK.
Post 226 - Among many other things, is first person to jump on (and vote) Santos for his post 223.
Post 230 - DGB says scum is caught (with post 223 (santos) quoted).
Post 234-240 - Wagon on Santos finally starts. People include (Seraphim, sirdanilot, DrippingGoofball, Hybris, Sentata, Slicey ).
Post 249 - MK posts something very interesting:

Hmm, missed the next page. The 'I already did' was directed at Setanta.

Catching up on the next page I notice a

lot of people would rather vote for me being honest

as opposed to posting some BS excuse that I can't read a forum thread of a few pages and will do so in several days from now. Pathetic.

*sigh* Join the club.

Post 258 - OGML more pushing for MK lynch (and throws in Raider as a possible scumpartner).
Post 262 -

I like the pressure on Santos; but I don't think he's that scummy to have another vote on.

Wha...?
Post 269 - More OGML pushing MK lynch.
Post 273 - Read this yourself. MK = scummy here?
Post 278 - OGML switches to the Santos wagon in lieu of his wonderful claim.
Post 285 - Azrhei hesitant, but votes Santos (L-1).
Post 294 - hp[leaves]: "You have a

safeclaim

?" - reeks to me, though second opinion appreciated.
Post 300 - Setenta hesitant, but against Santos.
Post 305 - Ort hammers Santos (finally).
Post 309 - Day Two Starts

And that's as far as I've gotten with my read. Will get Day two sometime tomorrow, hopefully.


My scumlist thus far (with scum-o-meter, 100 being definite, 30 being nuetral):

MK - 90/100
OGML - 90/100
hp[Leaves] 60/100
Seraphim 55/100
Setenta 40/100
DGB 35/100
Slicey 35/100
RBT 35/100
Ortolan 35/100

So I'm caught on who to vote for, though I'll probably vote OGML. Checking votecount...


Conclusions:
-OGML is strongly against MK, though doesn't say much about it. Suddenly switches to Santos at the last second.
-MK - somewhat contradictory, suggesting lynchers/jesters
-hp[leaves] - some odd posts.
-Seraphim - I don't actually remember why he was here, but he was at the top of my rolling scumlist at the end of post 166, where I cut off my read a little while ago.
-Setenta - mainly the hesitance to vote Santos.
-Ort - the beating around the bush with Santos. See below.
-The rest are general vibes.

Seriously, on the Santos wagon - his claim especially was BS. I'd have called him on it immediately and lynched. Obvscum, if I've ever seen it.

Votecount checked, this isn't a hammer -

Vote: OGML

Will expand on request.

[Jebus]

Update on inactivity - will be caught up this weekend, I've got three days of nothingness.

[Jebus]

Hai, I'm really sorry for inactivity. I'll be here for sure and finished catching up by Saturday night at latest, I've just caught up with real-life work and stuffs.

[Jebus]

Starting read-up, be done in a bit...

[Jebus]

Hello. Got screwed over on that read by the weather, but good news is I've got half of tomorrow, if not all of it, to finish up.

As for the knife-cop, I assume it's a Detective, that can choose to kill or investigate once per night. That's how I've always called them.

[Jebus]

Super-long read-up post. This starts at 309, that's where my last one ended (it's post 364)


Anyway, I'll note this to start:
1. Seraphim
6. ortolan
7. DrippingGoofball
8. raider8169
9. Minineko (replacing alvinz95)
10. zwetschenwasser (replacing Counselwolf)
11. Sentata (replacing Badguy)
12. hp [leaves]
14. Azhrei
15. Riceballtail
16. Narsis (replacing Sipylus)
17 Pear Bear
18. Slicey
21. Jebus
22. Qanqan (replacing Hybris)
23. Farkshinsoup (replacing Septia)

Dead
4. Santos, Precooked Mafia Goon (Anago), Lynched day one
13. GreenCrayons, Townie (Maguro), stabbed night one
20. OhGodMyLife, Townie (Ponzu), Lynched day two
19. Talitha, Knife Cop (Sushi Chef), stabbed night two
3. Flameaxe, Townie (Saba), Lynched day three
2. Plum, Townie (Tobiko), stabbed night three
24. Microphone_Kirby, Townie (Ikura), Lynched day four
5. Sirdanilot, Precooked Mafia Goon (Tako), stabbed night four


So with no known second mafia or serial killer, it appears we're just town and mafia, with a generally vanilla roleset.

So speculating, and assuming the 1 mafia every 4 players, we're dealing with a 6-man mafia here, with two gone. So four mafia in 16 remaining players. We had one Knife Cop, which I'd guess is the only pro-town power role, though we may have a doc and one more or something, but in that case I'd guess they also have a Roleblocker or Godfather or something.

And since I've seen it come up, I'm very doubtful of any kind of miller in this game :/

Anyway, on with the notes.

anyway...Day 2 now. what do you guys want to do?

This is likely nothing, but when people say this type of thing, it usually stands out to me.

316 - Farkshinsoup - first post of suspicion on Polar Bear, beginning of this bit. Legit~ reasoning.

**Noting Setenta 321

322 - Raider - an "I think OGML is scum <summarizes>" post, little thought added.

I understand that I'm looking realllllly scummy right now. My half-baked plan has basically blown up in my face. I was hoping that if I had kept my vote on MK he would be lynched and turn out to be scum, but towards the end of that process I began to doubt his scumminess. That combined with pressure to act in someway caused me to remove my vote. However, I didn't think that Santos was scum either, and that by being one of the few to not vote him I would assure my nonscumminess.
Ive made a newb mistake that could potentially end up killing me, and hurting the town.
Fail.

I was also extremely surprised that I wasn't on Plums list of suspects as he was the only person to vote me yesterday and now I look 1000x scummier than then.

Is it me, or does this just scream scum?

332 - Slicey - unsure whether to vote OGML or Polar Bear

Alright, this is long overdue.

Vote:OGML

<some>

Why unsure in 332 then?

342 - Raider - "willing to back up OGML lynch" with little content.

347 - Raider - more nothingness

379 - Farkshinsoup - I've got no clue what to make of this. Scumnish, maybe (?)

Post 380 - Talitha against Azreih - 100% agreement from me

And this is a perfect example of how my newb tendancies and inexperience are being horribly misinterpereted for scum behaviour, by more experienced players who are either confusing themselves, or going for an easy kill.

I was simply putting my thoughts out there.

Is it me, or is PB playing the part of newbie?

Does it, really? I understood it to mean that we were authentic raw sushi against a pre-cooked sushi mafia. What other kind of sushi would be scummy? Maybe I should study Japanese restaurant menus.

For the lulz.

408 - Raider - Minor nothingness in accusation of OGML, who has started to turn townish. Bull, imo.

Post 415 and 416 - RBT and Slicey both saying Azreih case is bull with no reasoning.

482 - Talitha - Possible result? (unexplained switch from Azreaih to Pear Bear)

495 - ort - something to the effect of "Ehh, he's almost lynched and deadline's coming, I'll lynch him anyway", imo.

522 - DGB - @Talitha quote - "Does this sound like a guilty result on Flameaxe?"

534 - Slicey - A "just saying" post, responding to a question at him wondering about his "Or maybe Talitha got a guilty on Azreih" post. Also 536.

540 + 541 - DGB and Sirdan make a 2-vote 2-post wagon on Flameaxe

556 - ort - Another vote on the flameaxe wagon.

566-570 - Sirdan and Zwet - good for one lul

582 - Pear Bear - very strong "I'm a newbie ffs, that should work as defense!"

592 - Flameaxe appears, and is indifferent. This is what completely undermines all the suspicion I had based on the flameaxe wagon, and made me 'wtf'.

669 - Ortolan - goes against MK 652, which says basically "lynching in 4/14 real life days = wtf, fos all on wagon"

670 - Raider - Tries to connect the death of Green Crayons to MK

692 - Jester mention. Overlooked mainly because it was by Zwet.

Post number missing, though by MK:
"Why I didn't give my opinions before Flameaxe's lynch: none of your business." - this is the only reason, aside from the D1 suspicion I had, to vote MK. Really, I fail to see any other scummy from him.

696 - Minineko - first post by minineko that I've seen, generally ignores the MK wagon and goes for Pear Bear. Either thinks the same way as me, or is scum not bothering, though I'm very strongly towards the first.

FoS on most of the MK wagoners, most of whom merely just jumped on - Narsis, Setanta, ortolan, DrippingGoofball, sirdanilot, raider8169, zwetschenwasser, Seraphim, Slicey
Especially Slicey, Seraphim, Narsis, Setenta (see page 29)

742 - Zwet - "Yesterday was 100% positively scum driven." - You were there too :/

Overall scumlevels that I sense:

Pear Bear - 90/100
Ortolan - 80/100
Setenta - 60/100
hp [leaves] - 50/100
Narsis - 45/100
Slicey - 50/100
Seraphim - 45/100
Raider - 45/100
DGB - 45/100

Everyone else is darn near neutral, in my eyes.

Vote: Ortolan

for now.

[Jebus]

Trying to avoid a mislynch, eh scumbag?

He's voting for his second choice?

Yes, because I don't want Pear Bear to be lynched if it's going to be done in less than half the time we've got until deadline.

I do want Pear Bear dead, the point of voting for my #2 is to get a reaction/response, and avoid the hyper-speedlynch we had for D3 and D4.

So why am I a scumbag, Zwet?

[Jebus]

Go on... you have specifics or anything, or do you expect me to automatically know what you're thinking about?

[Jebus]

Yes.

Yes to which?

God, you're so confusing.

[Jebus]

I completely overlook the replacement fact, it happens. Not at all a scumtell, imo, just general lack of time.

And don't worry, Slicey, I won't disappear. My general thing right now is that I've only got time to read a page or so every time I log on, when people are posting ten pages a day, I fall behind and have trouble catching back up. This is why I dread and tend to avoid large games. (Note: It was a mistake to join this one, but hey, we're long past the hellish part of the game)

Trying to avoid a mislynch, eh scumbag?

He's voting for his second choice?

Yes, because I don't want Pear Bear to be lynched if it's going to be done in less than half the time we've got until deadline.

I do want Pear Bear dead, the point of voting for my #2 is to get a reaction/response, and avoid the hyper-speedlynch we had for D3 and D4.

Did you feel a bandwagon of that speed starting? Why the paranoia? Trying to push scummate out of the way of bandwagon?

Paranoia much? No, I'm not trying to stop this wagon, I'm just being cautious. I don't want to come back here 24 hours later and see that Pear Bear has been lynched. Seeing as it happened here not once, but

twice

, there's plenty reason to be cautious.

Besides, when did caution become a bad thing?

[Jebus]

How so?

[Jebus]

What, you were expecting him to claim scum? :/

[Jebus]

Thought - massclaim? It seems most people in this game are vanilla, so I don't see how it would hurt.

[Jebus]

I am for the extension though I want to hear from Jebus. Why do you want a mass claim so early?

It's not too early into this game, and it'd be a nameclaim that I meant. This merely because it seems we're almost all vanilla, and so that anything that doesn't necessarily fit might stick out.

I didn't exactly recall that Santos said he had a fakeclaim, so meh. Though then again, I've played in plenty of games elsewhere where to scumgroups had the same fakeclaims :/

Sigh. Vote: AK We kill raider tomorrow.

Why raider?

...For the very scummy and opportunistic mass-claim suggestion, and voting for his admitted "number two" suspect (me).

I get the claiming bit, but why is voting for the number two suspect scummy?


Also, contrary to DGB, I'll go by the precautionary principle and not hop on the AK wagon till I see how he goes about answering our questions and his general analysis, or lack of.


Sorry for my quick disappearance, general workload for life-stuff is to blame.

[Jebus]

Go into detail on the DGB case, I'd like to see this one.

Holding off on a vote for now, I'm somewhat interested in what you've got to say.

[Jebus]

Dead

4. Santos, Precooked Mafia Goon (Anago), Lynched day one

13. GreenCrayons, Townie (Maguro), stabbed night one
20. OhGodMyLife, Townie (Ponzu), Lynched day two
19. Talitha, Knife Cop (

Sushi Chef

), stabbed night two
3. Flameaxe, Townie (Saba), Lynched day three
2. Plum, Townie (Tobiko), stabbed night three
24. Microphone_Kirby, Townie (Ikura), Lynched day four

This is the downside of the nameclaim.

But it also helped us to catch Jebus!

You've made your point.

The italicised part seems scummy to me, why declare me definite scum? Suggesting a nameclaim doesn't make me scum at all.

But feel free to lynch me if you feel like lynching another townie..

Reassurance that you're townie really bothers me here. Still holding off, but far more apt to vote AK soon.

[Jebus]

I'm here, though I'm lacking time to think clearly atm. Be back later, sorry D:

[Jebus]

Alright, I've had time to read recent pages now.

AK, your case on DGB is kind of lacking, in my eyes. One of your key points is the push for the OGML lynch, which is something I'd completely agree with. Look at OGML, he was ridiculously one-track minded in his push for MK.

The next point about Flameaxe is a bit better, but still seems too much of a coincidence for me. The only point that seems legitimately powerful, in my eyes, is the last one, where DGB sparks all the commotion to make the lynching wagons. Still could be a coincidence, but fairly unlikely.

I feel a lot less inclined to vote AK now. DGB is still at the same place compared to where she was before, and [hp]leaves is looking scummier.

Come on guys, move votes for Jebus!

While lurking is bad, I'm certain one-liners with no content are worse.


So someone sum up the case on me please? Is it really just my recent lack of time to put into reading up in mafia (this is the same in every game I'm in, as I'm sure some of you can back up), along with the nameclaim suggestion?

Really, that sounds like a desperate lynch to me.

I don't think zwet wagon is going anywhere.

Seems Jebus is the lynch for today at this rate. UNVOTE; VOTE:Jebus

This, to me, sounds like "Hai, I'm back for five seconds, and because I don't want to put much thought in, I'm going to vote Jebus because other people are."

At least summarize why you think I'm scum, eh?

[Jebus]

And just a heads up, I'm at L-2.

[Jebus]

You're asking for a claim I take it, I see no reason not to.

I am toro. In mafia terms, a vanilla townie.

Off topic, toro is delicious <3

[Jebus]

Bah. Go town, maybe.