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What gives you the impression he has a safeclaim.hp [leaves] wrote:
You have aSantos wrote:I believe my role is that of an 'actor', according to MafiaWiki. Otherwise, no, I am not third party( if you are thinking I win when I get to have the deciding vote, no I don't) and I win with the town. Also, I was given the okay to claim 'Kami' if that makes any difference if I have any case left to prove my innocence. I kind of got a jacked rolesafeclaim?
Very tempting to hammer; but we still have four days to create discussion.
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Santos Mafia Scum
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[q]what is the consequence of you breaking your obligation to only vote when your vote will constitute a hammer?[/q]
The consequence is not stated. Its just advised that I don't; I'm worried it will trigger something if I do. What do you suspect it is?
What is a 'safeclaim' compared to what I am allowed to say regarding my role?[url=http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/thecrazies/]zombie - The Crazies[/url]
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ortolan Mafia Scum
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Setanta Townie
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Simenon Entitled
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Santos (13)- Seraphim, sirdanilot, DrippingGoofball, Hybris, Sentata, Slicey, raider8169, Riceballtail, Plum, Talitha, OhGodMyLife, Azhrei, ortolan.
Mmm. Nothing like the smell of fresh anago.
AAAAAHHHHH! Not that! Anything but that!
Then again, a simmered with a nice sauce...
That might do the trick.
Santos, Anago and a goon of the, was lynched day one.Precooked Mafia
Night 1. Night ends at 8:00 on the 2nd.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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Simenon Entitled
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Narsis Goon
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Plum Mafia Scum
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Break ut my very limited notes I made shortly after the flip, listing plyers I thought had a decent shot at being Santos' scumbuddy. A rudimentary list of sorts using lovely, lovely Firefox's control-f function. As a jumping-off point, I think they'd be okay.Narsis wrote:those death scenes are making me hungry...
anyway...Day 2 now. what do you guys want to do?
Possible Santos Scumbuddies:
Azhrei
Flameaxe
hp [leaves] - less suspicious
Jebus
OGML - less suspicious
Septia - less suspicious
Setanta
On a rescan, Flameaxe's comments on Santos included only the following:
Nothing about Flameaxe's posts, at least when read in isolation, give me a noticable town vibe either, soFlameaxe wrote:
But does useless mean impossible? (The answer is no, and if I remember correctly it's in MBF's flash glossary)Slicey wrote:Kind of a useless role IMHO. I'm willing to bet that he is lying.
I'm hoping people will understand what I mean by that last sentence. >____>
Vote: Flameaxe. As good a place to start as any, and better than many (sorry about the unintended rhyme).-
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Azhrei Goon
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I can see what you're saying about Flameaxe, but what about the other possibilities you listed? Why am I Santos' possible scumbuddy? Why are those other his possible sumbuddy? Just curious, that's all.Plum wrote:
Break ut my very limited notes I made shortly after the flip, listing plyers I thought had a decent shot at being Santos' scumbuddy. A rudimentary list of sorts using lovely, lovely Firefox's control-f function. As a jumping-off point, I think they'd be okay.Narsis wrote:those death scenes are making me hungry...
anyway...Day 2 now. what do you guys want to do?
Possible Santos Scumbuddies:
Azhrei
Flameaxe
hp [leaves] - less suspicious
Jebus
OGML - less suspicious
Septia - less suspicious
Setanta
On a rescan, Flameaxe's comments on Santos included only the following:
Nothing about Flameaxe's posts, at least when read in isolation, give me a noticable town vibe either, soFlameaxe wrote:
But does useless mean impossible? (The answer is no, and if I remember correctly it's in MBF's flash glossary)Slicey wrote:Kind of a useless role IMHO. I'm willing to bet that he is lying.
I'm hoping people will understand what I mean by that last sentence. >____>
Vote: Flameaxe. As good a place to start as any, and better than many (sorry about the unintended rhyme).
Personally, I feel that OGML is by far the scummiest. He was hard on the M_K bandwagon, basically saying we were going to lynch him, and listing no alternative. And then, all of a sudden, he flipped, and voted for Santos. And his only comment being 'Brilliant claim, scum.'
andOhGodMyLife wrote:Seraphim and Riceball is just noise right now. We're lynching M_K.
changed toOhGodMyLife wrote:Seriously guys,whyaren't we lynching M_K?
OhGodMyLife wrote:Brilliant claim, scum.
Unvote, Vote: Santos
This seems like rather a large turnaround to me, and I'm wondering why. I think it's possibly because he figured his partner was screwed and decided to bus him.
As such, I find him the scummiest so far.
Vote: OGML"He was cooler than Samuel L. Jackson on dope" - Raccon-
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Riceballtail Mafia Scum
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ortolan Mafia Scum
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Simenon Entitled
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Uh... if it's a non-role reveal game I'll say it, but I already revealed some roles.ortolan wrote:More comments later, but:
Mod: is this a role-reveal or non role-reveal game?
edit: Are you talking about how I didn't reveal GC's role in his death scene? I did in the first post, but I've updated his death scene now too to prevent confusion.Last edited by Simenon on Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:19 am, edited 1 time in total.SEND THE VECTOIDS-
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Farkshinsoup Goon
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Hi all.
I think there are much better candidates than OGML today.
Here's a couple of posts from Pear Bear from the end of the day that kind of went unnoticed due to Santos' scum implosion.Pear Bear wrote:Just lurking over here as my random vote on MK seems to have been a bit more than just random...
Bolding mine.Pear Bear wrote:
Sorry for not addressing you, Plum, but I hadnt noticed that you voted me.Plum wrote: Pear Bear, why are you, in your words, 'lurking'? Your random vote has become more than random? Well, what do you find suspicious about MK? Just leaving your vote on a big bandwagon and walking away again, are you? Thoughts? Opinions? Any semblance of contribution?
Vote: Pear Bear
I was hesitant to post because my random vote for MK seemed to have been a decent pick in the first place,and I was assessing what everyone else was thinking to determine if I wanted to keep my vote on MK or not.
I realize, now, that random voting and then lurking when everyone else jumps aboard is really sketchy and I don't plan on doing it again. As for MK and his alleged role fishing, In some cases role fishing can be pro-town, and I think that this may be one of those cases.
Unvote MK
So you admit to lurking, staying on a wagon with a random vote (with no reason why your vote is on there) and then when you pick up a little flack, you admit that you're only trying to follow the pack. You unvote. Why did it take being challenged for you to decide that your vote was on a townie? The unvote also came as the Santos wagon was picking up steam, which you never got involved with one way or the other. Please explain.
Vote:Pear Bear
Oh, and Rice, remember, I've now played with you as both scum and town, so you won't be able to get anything by me. Just saying.-
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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Flameaxe made an appearance late in the wagon but declined to vote. He paid no attention to Santos' earlier scummy posts, and even mildly defended Santos. I'm a bit divided on that one given my belief that if Flameaxe had been Santos' buddy, he would have bus'ed him so hard our heads would spin.
OGML was resisting the Santos wagon by continuing to be very aggressive on the M_K wagon. It's like he was screaming to us, "No!!! Look HERE!!! Lynch M_K! What are you guys doing! M_K! M_K!" OK that's a bit of hyperbole for humor's sake. But then he switched to Santos anyway, when it looked like Santos' lynch was inevitable.
Something funny I noticed with Setanta. It's nothing major, but look at THIS POST. It was glaringly obvious that Santos had revealed that he had a safeclaim. Setanta's reaction is odd, given that he was one of the first on the Santos wagon. He may have had second thoughts about bus'ing his partner - that's the thought that comes to mind.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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Concerning Pear Bear. He wrote: "I was hesitant to post because my random vote for MK seemed to have been a decent pick in the first place, and I was assessing what everyone else was thinking to determine if I wanted to keep my vote on MK or not. "
Hesitation to post = scum.
Assessing what everyone is thinking to decide where you place your vote = scum.
Newbie scum random vote = often a vote on your buddy.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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And what about Septia???
Check out THIS POST. He says he's not lurking, though he clearly is. His comments on the Santos wagon are gems.
ON JANUARY 22:
He never did catch up.Septia wrote:Sorry for inactivity, I've been pretty busy. Will get into it tomorrow and catch up.
ON JANUARY 26:
He suggests that mafia would be too careful to make such a slip? That's interesting, because that was hardly a slip, but rather, a huge unintentional scumtell. Septia claims that he needs to read back, but never does. He never even commented on the competing M_K wagon.Septia wrote:The bandwaggon on Santos has been too fast for my liking, and I understand the case on him, but mafia would be more careful to not make a slip up like that. I'm basing this off page 10 alone though,still need to read back.
I'm going to hold back from lynching Santos right now until I see more from him. Will read back now and give my thoughts/ suspicions.
So this lurker has the nerve to show up and express his displeasure at the speed of a SCUMWAGON. He makes excuses for said scum, wants to hear more from him, and never read back or gave thoughts or suspicions.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Looking a hp[leaves]. THIS POST is interesting. He totally caught on Santos' mistake where he practically admitted to having a safeclaim. But hp[leaves] refrained from hammering. Why on Earth would a player refrain from hammering a player he believes has a SAFECLAIM, for cryin' out loud? What does it take for you to hammer somebody?
Going backwards in time, hp[leaves] said: "I like the pressure on Santos; but I don't think he's that scummy to have another vote on." It's like hp[leaves]really really really doesn't want that poor Santos to have another vote on... even after he slips up that he has a safeclaim!
Again, going back in time, hp[leaves]declined to honor the Santos wagon with his presence, rather he went against the prevailing wind to cast a vote on OGML. Given OMGL's own reactions to the Santos wagon, which is to browbeat us to lynch M_K instead, I suggest that hp[leaves] might have been doing some safe distancing from OGML. I don't recall OGML having any votes at the time. That vote was a weird move.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Yeh, I just didn't think Safe-claim. I mean, I was sure he was scum anyway, but I just thought he was afraid to claim his name, in case of a modkill, which had happened to him in choose carefully mafia.DGB wrote:Something funny I noticed with Setanta. It's nothing major, but look at THIS POST. It was glaringly obvious that Santos had revealed that he had a safeclaim. Setanta's reaction is odd, given that he was one of the first on the Santos wagon. He may have had second thoughts about bus'ing his partner - that's the thought that comes to mind.
As for me having potential second thought about bus'ing santos, I don't think it makes sense. if anything I'd have expected his buddies to pour on at the end once it was obvious he was fucked.
However, looking back you are correct it's pretty obvious he was BS'ing.
And the point about Hp leaves is also a good one, in that if he assumed it was a safe claim he would have hammered.
Anyway will give the thread a re-read later. Uni/Snow ball fights to keep me busy for the moment.No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. [i]Never compromise. [/i]-
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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Why Azhrei? Why Jebus?Plum wrote:Possible Santos Scumbuddies:
Azhrei
Flameaxe
hp [leaves] - less suspicious
Jebus
OGML - less suspicious
Septia - less suspicious
Setanta
Why are OGML, Septia and Setantalesssuspicious? I have to ask, because they topmylist.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I understand that I'm looking realllllly scummy right now. My half-baked plan has basically blown up in my face. I was hoping that if I had kept my vote on MK he would be lynched and turn out to be scum, but towards the end of that process I began to doubt his scumminess. That combined with pressure to act in someway caused me to remove my vote. However, I didn't think that Santos was scum either, and that by being one of the few to not vote him I would assure my nonscumminess.
Ive made a newb mistake that could potentially end up killing me, and hurting the town.
Fail.
I was also extremely surprised that I wasnt on Plums list of suspects as he was the only person to vote me yesterday and now I look 1000x scummier than then.
And finally, I don't fully comprehend the hasty flameaxe voting...
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