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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:57 am

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EBWOP:

Stupid question:

Does scum know the identity of other scum in this game?
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:54 am

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Pear Bear wrote:EBWOP:

Stupid question:

Does scum know the identity of other scum in this game?
ummm...assuming it's a normal scumgroup, yes. it's rare when they don't.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:03 am

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Here, finishing up re-read.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:09 am

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Pear Bear wrote:I didn't think that Santos was scum either, and that by being one of the few to not vote him I would assure my nonscumminess.
Just as a quick question, how did you assume that would assure you're not being scum, even if he was town. There still leaves the wide possibility that you were a mafiate who knew he would be lynched without your help, and stood off the wagon to make that very claim to non-scumminess. So I'm not seeing why thats such a good reason.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:53 am

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Pear Bear wrote: Does scum know the identity of other scum in this game?
I can't answer this question.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:57 am

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post 325 wrote:EBWOP:

Stupid question:

Does scum know the identity of other scum in this game?
Why would town want to know this? Why do you care? This is very odd, in my opinion, and seems to indicate that you are some sort of anti-town role...

There are other reasons why I find Pear Bear anti-town, but I don't have time to list them ATM.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:13 pm

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Pear Bear has done some scummy stuff as I outlined in an earlier post, but his question isn't all that surprising given that he's a noob.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:23 pm

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Pear Bear wrote:
And finally, I don't fully comprehend the hasty flameaxe voting...
...Hasty Flameaxe voting? There's one vote on him! Sounds like a scumslip IMHO.

Not sure whether to vote for OGML or Pear Bear. Both seem extremely scummy to me.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:59 pm

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Plum wrote:
Possible Santos Scumbuddies:

...
OGML -
less suspicious
:shock:
I'd... love to hear an explanation for why OGML's "
less
suspicious". Personally, he's on the top of my list, mainly because of that rather sudden change-of-vote from me to Santos...
Pear Bear wrote:And finally, I don't fully comprehend the hasty flameaxe voting...
One vote =/= hasty... :?
This part of that post sounds very weird.

... I'll need to think about the arguments given on the other people more carefully before I comment about them.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:16 pm

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Microphone_Kirby wrote:
Plum wrote:
Possible Santos Scumbuddies:

...
OGML -
less suspicious
:shock:
I'd... love to hear an explanation for why OGML's "
less
suspicious". Personally, he's on the top of my list, mainly because of that rather sudden change-of-vote from me to Santos...
Less suspicious only in the context of possibly being Santos' scumbuddy. That said, my rescan of players' posts in isolation had drawbacks and limitations (for one, I have limited knowledge of, for example, Flameaxe's meta. DGB seems to think he might have bussed Santos pretty hard were they scumbuddies. That's worth taking into account despite the meta-WIFOM it risks if you argue too much about it.

Dunno - OGML's reason for voting Santos was, apparently, Santos' claim. The possibility that OGML just found the weird and stupid claim really scummy was just strong enough that in my rudimentary notes I downgraded him just a bit on suspicions of being Santos' scumbuddy only. That said, there are more things abocve I don't have enough time to answer now, and, as stated above, I feel that I need some sort of reread.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:55 am

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Pear Bear wrote:However, I didn't think that Santos was scum either, and that by being one of the few to not vote him I would assure my nonscumminess.
Again, you seem to be more concerned with appearing town than with anything else. My vote stays.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:25 am

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Is OGML keeping a low profile in the hope that we'll forget about him and build cases against players that are currently more active?
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:49 am

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Scum must have had a field day in their qt discussing how they were gonna lynch me today.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:38 am

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OhGodMyLife wrote:Scum must have had a field day in their qt discussing how they were gonna lynch me today.
Yeah what are they saying?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:25 am

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Seraphim wrote:
post 325 wrote:EBWOP:

Stupid question:

Does scum know the identity of other scum in this game?
Why would town want to know this? Why do you care? This is very odd, in my opinion, and seems to indicate that you are some sort of anti-town role...

There are other reasons why I find Pear Bear anti-town, but I don't have time to list them ATM.
Only thing I would be able to guess is that he was asking if the mafia knew each other, though thats still kind of a rare question to ask, only ever brought up if you suspect they aren't for some reason or another.

Also, still waiting for a response to my other question.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:31 am

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Farkshinsoup wrote:
Rice wrote:VOTE:Riceballtail

Obviously sushi-scum. Speedlynch GO!
Rice, you got flack for this early on. Whatever, the self vote means nothing to me. What I find strange about this post is your tone. I would describe it as playful? Maybe a little reckless. That seems out of character for you. I don't think I've seen that before. Not sure it means anything, but I wanted to bring it up. Care to comment?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:40 am

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Alright, this is long overdue.

Vote:OGML


So focused on lynching MK (which in hindsight was not a very good case and I regret voting for him), the "buddying" between MK and Raider, which he never discussed and nobody was able to figure out, as far as I remember. Then just jumping on the Santos wagon at the end after pushing so hard all day for an MK lynch.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:53 pm

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Im good with a OGML lynch however I wish to sum up my case before I place my vote.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:23 pm

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OhGodMyLife wrote:Scum must have had a field day in their qt discussing how they were gonna lynch me today.
So you show up the moment after someone accuses you of having a low profile, answer none of the accusations against you, and state how the scum must've planned out your lynching? Wait, what?

My vote stays.


Also, I think that the 'Do the scum know each other' question was innocent, and just a newbie thing. Personally, I can see how that wouldn't be obvious if you were new. Of course that is, if he really is a newbie.

I find the way raider is posting just a little, I dunno, odd. I can't quite say why, but I do. I'm gonna think about that, and see what I come up with.
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:21 pm

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Yeah, hi. Plum is very likely town. I'm working out which of the rest of the lot of you gibbering maniacs out for my blood is scum, and I'll tell you tomorrow.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:45 pm

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I'm really busy at the moment but wanted to check in to raise an eyebrow at the OGML votes. Haven't played with him before but my gut says town so far.

Oh and
vote: flameaxe

Maybe just a placeholder until I can assess some of the other voteworthy candidates. Maybe not.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:37 am

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Initially: I think Pear Bear' 325 was dumb not necessarily scummy.

If I read correctly then Flameaxe is being attacked for defending Santos' claim. I didn't think the claim was that unreasonable myself, seemed a perfectly possible role. The reason I voted him was simply that he basically directly contradicted what the mod had just said.

I need to look at hp[leaves] position on Santos' wagon to see if I can make more of a case against him. OGML also needs a re-read.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:41 am

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Azhrei wrote:I find the way raider is posting just a little, I dunno, odd. I can't quite say why, but I do. I'm gonna think about that, and see what I come up with.
My bad if I dont have the time to put together my case, maybe I should not vote until I have such time....oh wait that is what I am doing :roll:
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:18 am

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The thread has now been open for 60 hours. The following players have not checked in yet:

Sirdan - has not posted anything since last Friday
Alvinz95 - has been active on the site during this time.
Counselwolf - has been active on the site during this time.
hp [leaves] - V/LA until Feb 8th, as per his sig.
Flameaxe - has been active, although only very briefly on Tuesday night.

So mod, can we get a prod on Alvinz, Counselwolf, Flameaxe and Sirdan for good measure?


My FoS on Alvinz stays. He's the lurkingest lurker that ever lurked.
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anyway...Day 2 now. what do you guys want to do?
This was the first post on Day 2. Seems scummy. You got anything else to contribute?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:23 am

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Hybris wrote:
Pear Bear wrote:I didn't think that Santos was scum either, and that by being one of the few to not vote him I would assure my nonscumminess.
Just as a quick question, how did you assume that would assure you're not being scum, even if he was town. There still leaves the wide possibility that you were a mafiate who knew he would be lynched without your help, and stood off the wagon to make that very claim to non-scumminess. So I'm not seeing why thats such a good reason.
Like I said, my whole plan was based on the fact that he wasn't scum. Because I didn't think he was.

And when I say "hasty" I mean "immediate and at the very start of the day" which is that part I didn't really get.

And I'm staring to feel the case against OGML because of his extreme actions during the MK/Santos lynchings. However, MK is still on my list so...

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