Sushi Mafia! Game Over

[Seraphim]

Why a mass claim so early? So far as we know, we are in no danger of being endgamed yet.

FoS: Jebus

[zwetschenwasser]

PRUFT

[DrippingGoofball]

PRUFT

I'm so glad I clicked on the game thread, to find out what new exciting post was made to propel the game forward.

[zwetschenwasser]

Nobody loves me...

[Slicey]

....No, Jebus. Just no. A mass claim this early is pointless with so many people left. >_>

[raider8169]

I can see that I've got quite some votes on me.. Well all i can say at this point is that the one I've replaced has been playing a townie role badly..

That is all you can say? No explanation? Your just a townie? Not even a I think so and so is scum?

Vote AK

[raider8169]

EBWOP:

Mass Claim I think it a bad idea at this point in the game.

[ortolan]

I'll post something in this game either tomorrow or on the weekend

I know it's been a while, sorry.

[Azhrei]

Massclaim = bad, definitely.


AK... Hm. I'm not sure what to think of you, PB, I'm convinced is scum, but you having replaced him makes me unsure. Grr.

[DrippingGoofball]

AK... Hm. I'm not sure what to think of you, PB, I'm convinced is scum, but you having replaced him makes me unsure. Grr.

Is it that PB asked for replacement that makes you unsure, or AK's contribution? If it's AK's contribution, please list AK's posts and explain their effect on your diminishing certainty.

[Riceballtail]

The only thing we can really get out of a massclaim is finding out if the scum have fakes or not.

And at that point, the only thing we'd likely have done for the scum is give them all of the PRs on a silver platter, should we have any more in the first place.

[Riceballtail]

EBWOP: We know they do already, actually. Santos said he had a fakeclaim. So yeah, massclaim would be terrible.

[DrippingGoofball]

EBWOP: We know they do already, actually. Santos said he had a fakeclaim. So yeah, massclaim would be terrible.

Good catch.

Can we go back to lynching PearBear/AK?

[Narsis]

don't rush it too much DGB. i've been in the situation where i replaced in for another player that put himself in a really bad position. it can be very frusrating. add in that AK needs to reread most of the thread to get the case against him...you get the picture.

even so...the replacement thing i see as a null tell, mainly because PB replaced out due to lack of time. it does mean that he's a decent guy though.

[Slicey]

I still think PB replaced because we were catching on to him. Hell, I've seen it done before (can't go into too much detail because it's an ongoing game.) AK's defense has been weak up to this point.

Vote: AK

[Narsis]

I still think PB replaced because we were catching on to him. Hell, I've seen it done before (can't go into too much detail because it's an ongoing game.) AK's defense has been weak up to this point.

Vote: AK

if that was the reason then why did he even bother to post saying he lacked the time to play the game? imo someone ticked off at a lynch would either let it run down to his death(like the last two days) or would just sit there and say nothing until the mod replaced them, or ask for replacement but say nothing. the fact that PB made a post in thread about the situation makes me belive the replacement thing is a null tell. why null? cause both scum and townie could/would replace out like that. however, a ticked off/caught player wouldn't.

but that's just my opinion.

on a side note: AK hasn't had much chance to defend himself anyway. he needs to finish his reread first after all...

[DrippingGoofball]

AK has 'claimed townie' and gone.

I'd like to have his suspicion list on hand though, in case we're wrong, we can still learn from his insight.

[Narsis]

from what i understand: AK claimed townie and went for a reread.

[hp [leaves]]

Thought - massclaim? It seems most people in this game are vanilla, so I don't see how it would hurt.

AK may have gone for a reread; but we still have one scum here!

[zwetschenwasser]

Vote: AK

The replacement thing just screams scumbuddy protection at me.

[Azhrei]

AK... Hm. I'm not sure what to think of you, PB, I'm convinced is scum, but you having replaced him makes me unsure. Grr.

Is it that PB asked for replacement that makes you unsure, or AK's contribution? If it's AK's contribution, please list AK's posts and explain their effect on your diminishing certainty.

PB's asking for replacement. AK hasn't made enough of a contribution for me to judge him on his own yet, I'd like him to finish his read of the thread and post some more.

[zwetschenwasser]

I rest my case. This is the same craplogic scumbuddies use when they're scared of a quick scum lynch.

[AK]

Now I'm at page 15 in my reading.. It's quite tough to get through imo.

The people I'm suspecting the most atm is:

Sentata:

Something funny I noticed with Setanta. It's nothing major, but look at THIS POST. It was glaringly obvious that Santos had revealed that he had a safeclaim. Setanta's reaction is odd, given that he was one of the first on the Santos wagon. He may have had second thoughts about bus'ing his partner - that's the thought that comes to mind.

This is one of my main reasons of suspecting him, his way of behaving day 1, first his FoS, then adding a vote for active lurking and finally trying to drag Santos out of focus when he got in serious trouble.

FoS: Sentata

Septia/Farkshinsoup:

And what about Septia???

Check out THIS POST. He says he's not lurking, though he clearly is. His comments on the Santos wagon are gems.

ON JANUARY 22:

Sorry for inactivity, I've been pretty busy. Will get into it tomorrow and catch up.

He never did catch up.

ON JANUARY 26:

The bandwaggon on Santos has been too fast for my liking, and I understand the case on him, but mafia would be more careful to not make a slip up like that. I'm basing this off page 10 alone though,still need to read back.

I'm going to hold back from lynching Santos right now until I see more from him. Will read back now and give my thoughts/ suspicions.

He suggests that mafia would be too careful to make such a slip? That's interesting, because that was hardly a slip, but rather, a huge unintentional scumtell. Septia claims that he needs to read back, but never does. He never even commented on the competing M_K wagon.

So this lurker has the nerve to show up and express his displeasure at the speed of a SCUMWAGON. He makes excuses for said scum, wants to hear more from him, and never read back or gave thoughts or suspicions.

Again, the quote from DGB is one of my main reasons, another reason would be(after farkshinsoup takes over) that he in the thread almost clearly states that OGML isn't mafia, a nice cheap trick to score some townie credit when you are sure about his role.

Vote: Farkshinsoup

Mind you all that I haven't read any further than page 15, and therefore there's bound to be holes in my argumentation, since I'm still missing half of the game.
To my own accusations, yes, PB behaved scummy, but as far as i can see from his actions and questions in the thread he was purely beeing a bit nooby in his way of playing mafia. I cant do much more than claim my townie role, since i havent got any power role to claim or anything. I have now given my point of view on the first 15 pages, that's the most i can do now.
I'll continue reading tomorrow, but I wont be much online from friday noon till saturday afternoon (GMT +1).

@MOD
Is there any chance that the deadline can be postponed a few days, giving me a chance to read up on the thread properly and then defend myself before deadline?

[zwetschenwasser]

I'll buy that

Unvote

[shaft.ed]

Vote Count:

AK

(7) Slicey, raider8169, Qanqan, Narsis, DrippingGoofball, Seraphim, zwetschenwasser

Jebus

(2) hp [leaves], Setanta

zwetschenwasser

(1) Riceballtail

ortolan

(1) Jebus

WhereIsTony

(1) AK

Note Voting:

WhereIsTony, Azhrei, ortolan, minineko

With 16 alive it's 9 to lynch.

Please note that WhereIsTony has replaced Farkshinsoup.