Sushi Mafia! Game Over

[ortolan]

Try that again:

shaft.ed, I very greatly appreciate you taking over modding duties, would it perhaps be possible to edit a list of alive players into the "start day" post and/or get permission to edit the thread to edit the opening post?

[shaft.ed]

Try that again:

shaft.ed, I very greatly appreciate you taking over modding duties, would it perhaps be possible to edit a list of alive players into the "start day" post and/or get permission to edit the thread to edit the opening post?

Go check out Page 1

[hp [leaves]]

Good news =)

[Slicey]

Heh, well I'd say AK is pretty much confirmed town now.

Why?

That was actually me who wrote that. >_> And I forgot about the possibility of an SK. So really, I'd say he's confirmed not scum.

[hp [leaves]]

With one kill each night, either we have the best roleblocker or there is only one scum team.

[hp [leaves]]

We also could have a second group who can't kill.

[raider8169]

Mod

and everybody else, I was hoping the hotel I am staying at was going to have wireless in the rooms however I found the one place that does not. Just so everyone knows for the rest of the week I will be LA

[Narsis]

man i hate weekends. at least a mafia died. XD

[zwetschenwasser]

What are the odds that we haven't killed a single one of DGB's "mystery scumteam" by day 6? We can probably rule out that possibility now.

[Slicey]

...What are you talking about? >_>

[Azhrei]

Actually, Zwet, in a way, DGB's alignment could confirm the existence of that scum group. Perhaps it is the precooked mafia who can't kill, and they're trying to find out if there's another scum group? Or perhaps none of their kills were working, so they were wondering who was doing the killing? I can't see why DGB's alignment would destroy the second scum group.

Oh, and I really don't feel that AK is definite townie just because of DGB's alignment. There's way too many other possibilities. He could be a member of our mythical 2nd scum group, or he could be 3rd party, or so many other things.

[Azhrei]

Hm. I just noticed something really, really odd.

4. Santos, Precooked Mafia Goon (Anago), Lynched day one
13. GreenCrayons, Townie (Maguro), stabbed night one
20. OhGodMyLife, Townie (Ponzu), Lynched day two
19. Talitha, Knife Cop (Sushi Chef), stabbed night two
3. Flameaxe, Townie (Saba), Lynched day three
2. Plum, Townie (Tobiko), stabbed night three
24. Microphone_Kirby, Townie (Ikura), Lynched day four
5. sirdanalot, Precooked Mafia Goon (Tako), Stabbed night 4
21. Jebus, Townie (Toro), Lynched day 5
7. DrippingGoofball, Preecooked Mafia Goon (California Roll), Stabbed night 5

Now, look at numbers of the dead scum. 4, 5 and 7. Is it just me, or is that more than a little coincidental? Now, I'm not saying we should go lynch orto just because he's number 6, but it's still kinda odd how the three scum are all clumped like that.

[raider8169]

[quote="Azhrei"Now, look at numbers of the dead scum. 4, 5 and 7. Is it just me, or is that more than a little coincidental? Now, I'm not saying we should go lynch orto just because he's number 6, but it's still kinda odd how the three scum are all clumped like that.[/quote]

That is really odd but we have to assume that the roles were random.

[hp [leaves]]

Vote Narsis

obvscum

[Slicey]

Care to explain?

[hp [leaves]]

He was the one who threw out the possibility of two scumgroups.

Then he didn't even care to stay and talk about it.

[Narsis]

didn't stay to talk about it? how so? i believe i made a few comments afterward. the main problem was that DGB took it for a ride. becasue of that there was little for me to say about it anyway really. and after a while discussion moved to other topics.

[Slicey]

Quickly looking back at DGB's posts, I found this:

Highly unlikely. However, if OGML is part of say, a 3-member scumgroup without exceptional powers, it would be logical for him to highly suspect a second scumgroup.

Nothing I said suggested that mafiates in a game with two scum groups know the members of the other scumteam. All I'm sayin', is that OGML seems to know that another scumteam exists. And he would know that, if his scumteam has fewer members than expected from a game this size.

She's part of an at least 3 member scumgroup (her, sirdan and Santos). I don't think they are doing the killings because I don't think precooked sushi would use knives. She's kind of saying right there that there is in fact a 3 member scumteam (possibly more, in order to hide the true amount)

And here is another example. And again with the same number.

This suggests that you are part of an informed minority, and that you are one of a small scumgroup. For instance, you may be three in your scumgroup, which would be small for a 24 player game. Therefore, it would seem unlikely to you that a second nightkilling faction would consist of a mere SK. You would expect, with your knowledge of the existence of your, say, 3-person scumgroup in a game of 24 players, a second mafia group

Also, look at this post. With DGB's flip, I feel this is very important.

I believe, from the messages Pear Bear seems to be telegraphing in broad daylight, that he belongs to a scum group that doesn't know who their buddies are. If he's Precooked Mafia, then we know that we have to look for Precooked mafia trying to feel for each other in broad daylight, or, if he belongs to a still-prospective Knife Mafia, we'll know there's another Mafia, and that's the one for which we must look for 'feelers.' Definitely a different set of scumtells.

My guess is that this precooked mafia do not know their scummates. Which is why they most likely haven't killed anyone yet. Once they find each other, they can probably start killing. Which is why I think this concludes that there is in fact another mafia thats been doing all the killing. DGB basically said there were 2 mafia's but made it look like OGML was saying that instead. I'd guess there's anywhere from 3-4 in that group, meaning that there's 3-4 in the other group as well.

This means that there is an entire scumgroup that we have been unable to even touch as of this point. And maybe even more precooked. If there's any of those left, I'd say the best bet would be AK, considering PB was asking many questions about whether scum know other scum and that sort of thing. Plus, AK wouldn't know if he was scummates with DGB, seeing as how they do not know each other. Also, DGB was very wishy-washy when it came to voting for PB/AK.

Vote: AK

[AK]

@Slicey
You change your mind quite a bit don't you?
First I was pretty much confirmed town, then pretty much confirmed not-scum and now I'm scum?!


My guess on the setup is that we have a numberwise overpowered mafia group compared to what's normal in a setup of this size and then a SK or something like that, who's been doing all the killing. I won't take a guess at how the lacking night kills could be explained, there's simply too many possibilities..

[Slicey]

@Slicey
You change your mind quite a bit don't you?
First I was pretty much confirmed town, then pretty much confirmed not-scum and now I'm scum?!


My guess on the setup is that we have a numberwise overpowered mafia group compared to what's normal in a setup of this size and then a SK or something like that, who's been doing all the killing. I won't take a guess at how the lacking night kills could be explained, there's simply too many possibilities..

The confirmed town was wrong because I forgot the possibility of an SK. And I said not-scum because of your case against DGB, who did end up being scum. However, you two could be in the same scum-group and not realize it. Right now, I see you as most likely to be in precooked mafia group because of PB's statements and DGB's wishy-washy attitude towards you and PB. I'm not 100% convinced you're scum or anything.

What does everyone else think about my two mafia, precooked members don't know each other theory?[/spoiler]

[Slicey]

...how the hell did a spoiler tag end up in my post? >________>

[zwetschenwasser]

Vote: AK

It all boils down to killing AK so we can more fully grasp DGB's posts.

[Seraphim]

Vote: AK

I really can't see any other lynch happened today. Unless it's Zwet.

[shaft.ed]

Xenaroth replaces Setanta effective immediately.

[Slicey]

Mod, can we get prods on Minineko, Qanqan and Where is Tony?