Vengeful Mafia I - GAME OVER

Battousai · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:34 am

/confirm

Battousai · Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:37 am

Quick question. How is the veng kill worked out in comparison to the scum win condition? Does it take immediate effect upon the lynch so mafia does not meet their win condition no matter what?

Battousai · Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:45 am

I'm trying to figure you out Charter. Hammering already is bad play. You are throwing out a hefty dose of WIFOM.

Battousai · Post Post #31 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:47 am

Vote the person who doubts your methods....

Battousai · Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:48 am

Please explain then.

Battousai · Post Post #50 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:55 am

Why does charter have 2 votes?

Battousai · Post Post #53 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:58 am

I agree, he acted the same with 2 votes on Pacman. He just elevated it to more suspicion on Charter for continuing the bad play.

Battousai · Post Post #60 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:01 pm

He was also voting me. But you were the one putting us at L-1 and called for the hammer.

Battousai · Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:03 pm

Replacement for Knox? Hasn't posted in over 10 minutes.

Battousai · Post Post #66 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:05 pm

Vote: Knox

Most likely to be mafia godfather. Trying to avoid the vengeful kill.

Battousai · Post Post #68 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:06 pm

Pacman- elaborate please, I don't understand what you are getting at with that quote.

Battousai · Post Post #74 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:10 pm

VC- votecount... I get it now lol.

Battousai · Post Post #76 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:13 pm

This hammer is taking a while. Just reassures me that knox, is indeed, the mafia godfather. The goon would not hammer the godfather in this situation which means all 3 townies have to vote for the godfather to win.

Battousai · Post Post #79 (isolation #14) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:18 pm

Then you also think Knox isn't the godfather or know he is.

I'm going to go with a Charter (goon) and Knox (godfather) for my final answer Regis.

Battousai · Post Post #83 (isolation #15) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:20 pm

You won't hammer, though, is the underlying fact. That leads one to believe that it will cause you to lose. That leads to that he's the godfather and you're a goon OR you think he is a townie.

Pacman, thoughts?

Battousai · Post Post #89 (isolation #16) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:25 pm

If he's town, he wouldn't want to be lynched (cuts chance to win down to 1:3) or if he's scum he wouldn't want to be lynched. Of course he is going to not want you to lynch him.

Still waiting on Pacman...

Battousai · Post Post #103 (isolation #17) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:35 pm

Dang, I was banking on Knox being scum for being so distant... gotta go look back at voting patterns.

Battousai · Post Post #106 (isolation #18) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:37 pm

I meant godfather...

Battousai · Post Post #112 (isolation #19) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:44 pm

Vote: Charter

, after looking back, I still conclude that Charter was reluctant to vote for Knox and that we now know knox was a goon, it was in the best interest not to vote knox.

Either SensFan is going for the I voted for the goon, I must be innocent approach, or Pacman or Charter is scum. I'm banking on the latter.

Battousai · Post Post #116 (isolation #20) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:46 pm

Nor did I say it does. I did say, though, that I'm banking on you being scum. I get that from your past play.

Battousai · Post Post #120 (isolation #21) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:50 pm

charter wrote:Have you ever seen me as scum?

Not sure, maybe.

Battousai · Post Post #122 (isolation #22) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:51 pm

Hammer.

Battousai · Post Post #125 (isolation #23) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:53 pm

nvm...

Battousai · Post Post #127 (isolation #24) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:54 pm

charter wrote:Lynch Batt after me.

"Ok, now go to sleep crazy person." l)

Sorry, just got done watching Family Guy...

Battousai · Post Post #129 (isolation #25) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:55 pm

EBWOP: l) should be

Battousai · Post Post #130 (isolation #26) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:56 pm

I'm guessing Charter is townie by his post death post...

Battousai · Post Post #132 (isolation #27) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:00 pm

I placed my vote on Knox at the same time as SensFan... He just posted it quicker as when I was typing it up, there was no vote on Knox at the time. Same goes for SensFan.

Battousai · Post Post #136 (isolation #28) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:08 pm

I'm thinking it's Mr. Bean for the same reason I thought it was Knox D1 (only voted once). He put me at L-2, but only after Knox unvoted (I'm guessing he didn't want 2 scum votes on a townie) and the only other person voting me at the time was Charter, someone I expressed as using a lot of WIFOM.

Not wanting to vote before I get input.

Battousai · Post Post #140 (isolation #29) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:11 pm

Mr. Bean wrote:
Battousai wrote:
Vote: Knox
Most likely to be mafia godfather. Trying to avoid the vengeful kill.
this was your vote, which was post 66. i think SF's vote was referring to the knox post I quoted, while yours sounds like you're voting him for lurking, basically.

what was really scummy about knox's post is he only fos'd charter and wasn't "ready to lynch"; I think SF caught that and changed his vote from charter to SF.

do you think SF is the gf?

I voted him, for lurking, yes. I found that very suspicious for this setup. When I said he was trying to avoid the vengeful kill, don't you think fos'ng charter and the wasn't ready to lynch comment would fall under that category?

Battousai · Post Post #144 (isolation #30) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:16 pm

pacman aka your predecessor.

I'm thinking it's Mr. Bean for the same reason I thought it was Knox D1 (only voted once). [Pacman] put me at L-2, but only after Knox unvoted (I'm guessing [Pacman] didn't want 2 scum votes on a townie) and the only other person voting me at the time was Charter, someone I expressed as using a lot of WIFOM.

Not wanting to vote before I get input.

Battousai · Post Post #146 (isolation #31) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:18 pm

After I asked for a replacement of Knox, gone 10 min, Knoxs comes back and posts (effectively admitting to actively lurking).

Battousai · Post Post #147 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:22 pm

SensFan, you haven't given us any thoughts on who is scum today...

Battousai · Post Post #151 (isolation #33) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:27 pm

If there are 2 scum votes on a townie wagon, the chance for a scum death from the veng kill is 2/3. That is why he would wait. It isn't optimal play for scum to make up most of the wagon on D1.

I've waited long enough...

Vote: Mr. Bean

Battousai · Post Post #153 (isolation #34) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:29 pm

So, I'm right!!!!

Battousai · Post Post #155 (isolation #35) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:30 pm

Regardless of outcome, this is a personal victory. One mislynch (charter) plus finding both scum equals win.

Battousai · Post Post #157 (isolation #36) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:31 pm

Bean, you just don't get it. I'm not talking about auto lose in that equation. If it's 2/3 scum still lose a player and they don't win the game at D1. They would not want 2 scum on the wagon as it would increase the chance of one of them dieing..... REPEAT. I'm not talking about the auto lose of the GF.

Battousai · Post Post #159 (isolation #37) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:33 pm

Also, you never formed a case against me.... Just that SensFan wouldnt be scum for voting Knox (something I did as well at the same time as him).

Battousai · Post Post #160 (isolation #38) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:33 pm

We lose, as in We lose town....

Battousai · Post Post #163 (isolation #39) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:35 pm

The outcome may have been different if SensFan was truely devoted to this game in all aspect. I think he rushed his vote.

Battousai · Post Post #165 (isolation #40) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:36 pm

What made you guys (sens, charter) think I was scum? I know I might have voted me, since I waited so long to place a vote and was cautious with it...

Battousai · Post Post #166 (isolation #41) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:37 pm

Also, Bean, did you honestly not understand what I was getting at or were you feigning ignorance?

Battousai · Post Post #169 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:43 pm

Honestly, he and you were the only ones that caught my eye. And lurking = scum in this setup in my mind and was actually right.

Battousai · Post Post #171 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:45 pm

Knox, if you would have lied and said you had to answer the phone or doorbell, I probably wouldn't have thought you were scum so much.

Battousai · Post Post #176 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:48 pm

charter wrote:
Battousai wrote:Honestly, he and you were the only ones that caught my eye. And lurking = scum in this setup in my mind and was actually right.
Lurking most definately does not equl scum in vengeful.

On D1, for me, it does.