Bastard Face Mafia (Over) Town and sirdanilot win

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In case xofelf didn't pass on the message, /in

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Confirming.

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Vote: xofelf

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Unvote, vote: Mr Bean

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i wouldn't vote Mr. Bean after he voted himself, because i wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of win condition as long as he gets lynched

If he;s a Jester, we still want to lynch him.

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forbiddan, what's your alignment?

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However, if he is a jester than let the Mafia night kill him instead

unvote

The Mafia won't NK a Jester. A Jester in an extra Mafia member in LyLo.

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forbiddan, what's your alignment?

Chaotic Awesome.

Seriously. Town, Scum, Other?

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So... FL... is your policy that selfvoting in the RVS is scummy unless you always do it?

That's mine.

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However, if he is a jester than let the Mafia night kill him instead

unvote

Agreed. And if he isn't dead tomorrow, we lynch him. That way, the scum will kill him or possibly lose to a jester.

Jester's aren't mutually exclusive.

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Jester sometimes aren't given mafia or town alliance and considering this is a marathon either Jester lynch could bring about end of game or "jester" could turn into something else (i heard this happend before)

I know Poker well enough that a Jester lynch will NOT end the game.

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But who says he's a jester?

This.

Needs more Bean votes.

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The Bean vote is not silly.

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i'm not a jester... i'm not voting myself anymore

so why did you vote for yourself in the first place?

vote mister bean

a way to get the game rolling, which FL says is not good

Doing something scummy to 'get the game rolling' is still scummy.

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how's it scummy

How is it not scummy? If you are Town, you just voted for the one person you know is Town.

It also lets you get out of the RVS too easily.

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how's it scummy

How is it not scummy? If you are Town, you just voted for the one person you know is Town.

It also lets you get out of the RVS too easily.

getting out of rvs is good for town. i made my random vote already

I'd argue that getting out of the RVS that quickly isn't good for Town.

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how's it scummy

How is it not scummy? If you are Town, you just voted for the one person you know is Town.

It also lets you get out of the RVS too easily.

I agree with this but I don't think its a jester move.

Then you should be voting him.

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how's it scummy

How is it not scummy? If you are Town, you just voted for the one person you know is Town.

It also lets you get out of the RVS too easily.

Is there such a thing as getting out of the RVS too easily?

Yep. I get about 50-90% of my reads over the course of the game in large part due to the RVS.

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Bean, you're not helping yourself.

Who do you think is Scum, and why?

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millar, I wouldn't start talking about others being bad players.

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I support a Bean lynch, at this point.

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Kison, why are you all over forbiddan when I've been just as vocal about Bean?

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millar, stop being dumb.

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No, her claiming that is a good thing.

It gives us two lynches if we ever lynch her.

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well, i wouldn't vote me as whoever hammers dies too... unless, you want an extra player dead.. by all means, lynch me.

Then we decide who hammers if we decide to lynch you. Empking or Xtoxm would be best IMO.

I want Bean or millar to be lynched today, or to have to hammer xofelf.

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STOP!

If we lynch xofelf, we also decide who hammers.

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who would walk into a vengeful kill?

Anyone the Town wants. The alternative is that we lynch them instead.

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Alright, xofelf lynch, Bean hammer. I'm sold on that now.

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wait how are we going to force people to hammer?

They hammer xofelf, or they get lynched.

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Fonz, I'll lynch scummy people before active lurkers.

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Guys, millar won't do shit all regardless of alignment.

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how am I active lurking?

Anyway between xofelf and bean I would prefer xofelf.

vote xofelf

And xofelf lynch means shit all.

Who do you want to hammer?

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I have several games worth of meta on millar. This is normal millar play.

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how am i living up to my name?


and what is my meta sensfan?

Absolutely useless.

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I'm liking that forbiddan and I seem to be on the same wavelength. It gives me good vibes about her.

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Lol, are you guy really buying the xofelf bravado claim? it's obvscum.

Let me reiterate:

if xofelf is town aligned bomber of some sort, the nonchalance of the claim make no sense at all.

if xofelf is jester bomb of some sort, the threatening make no sense because he would want to be lynched.

xofelf is obscum.

I'll hammer if you want.

this is a good point - i'm not taking the SS claim that seriously; it's something SK/scum could threaten to avoid getting lynched
looks like a panic claim from xofelf

You willing to hammer xofelf?

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So people mis-read me wow. and yet i am nearly always making the right choices for the town whether i am dead by then or not. Guess in order to beat the mafia, you need to be slightly scummy in your thinking.

Shut up. Seriously, shut up.

You have a meta of blowing games for Town. You have a meta of lying as Town. You have a meta of not posting to avoid suspicion as Town.

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Can we get a VC?

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Dont hate the playa...hate the game. And ive only been in one game with you, so seriously...you talking BS

Dethy, where you talked of roleblockers/GFs.
AitP, where you admitted to not posting, then lied about it.

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Millar, hammer.

No, Bean.

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Bean, unvote.
Then I will vote.
Then Bean will hammer.

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I am not moving my vote from Bean for the entire game unless he unvotes now and then hammers.

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I WILL BE VOTING XOFELF IN A MINUTE.

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Vote: xofelf

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I'll be voting Bean unless something comes up.

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emp is scum

vote: empking

Is that a claim?

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Then claim.

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So you don't know at all that Emp is Scum.

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We lynch Bean. If he comes up SANE Alpaca, we lynch Emp.

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We lynch Bean. If he comes up SANE Alpaca, we lynch Emp.

That's way dumb. Are you serious? Why do you sound freaking retarded in all the game you're in?

If we lynch Emp, and he flips Town, we have to lynch Bean, since he could be lying Scum or Insane.
If we lynch Bean, and he flips Sane, we're guaranteed that Emp is non-Town. If he flips Insane, Emp is Town.

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or, we could just lynch emp and he flips scum

What if you're Insane? Then there will be TWO mislynches.

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Emp, are you Town?

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Sens, why are you so certain we'll be told his sanity on the flip?

Because we were told that charter was Insane.

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We lynch Bean. If he comes up SANE Alpaca, we lynch Emp.

That's way dumb. Are you serious? Why do you sound freaking retarded in all the game you're in?

If we lynch Emp, and he flips Town, we have to lynch Bean, since he could be lying Scum or Insane.
If we lynch Bean, and he flips Sane, we're guaranteed that Emp is non-Town. If he flips Insane, Emp is Town.

We lynch Emp, his flip give indication as to Bean's role and people can check him. And what the fuck would scum fakeclaim scum on someone anyway.

Lets say we lynch Emp, and he flips Town. Then we lynch Bean, and he flips Insane. We just mislynched twice.
Let's say we lynch Bean, and he flips Sane. Then we lynch Emp. We just traded 1-for-1.
Let's say we lynch Bean, and he flips Insane. Then Emp is confirmed Town. We traded an Insane Cop for a confirmed Town.
Let's say we lynch Bean, and he flips Scum. We just lynched Scum.

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lynch one, vidge the other. tomato tomato.

Lynching Bean tells us Emp's alignment.
Lynching Emp tells us shit all about Bean.

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sens, the vig(s) will take care of me if i'm wrong/lying - there won't be 2 mislynches

I don't want you vig'd if you're just Insane. That's dumb.

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lynch one, vidge the other. tomato tomato.

Lynching Bean tells us Emp's alignment.
Lynching Emp tells us shit all about Bean.

how does lynching me tell emp's alignment? other than if i come up sane, you'll believe me?
lynch emp and him coming up non-town is the same, plus, we get rid of a non-town.

If you flip SaneTown, Emp is non-Town.
If you flip InsaneTown, Emp is Town.
If you flip Scum, Emp could be anything.

If Emp flips Town, you could be Insane or Scum.
If Emp flips non-Town, you could be Sane or Scum.

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Sens, there's also the possibility of paranoia.

True.

But the fact remains that Bean's flip stands a chance of telling us Emp's alignment. Emp's flip will not reveal anything about Bean.

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Sens, there's also the possibility of paranoia.

True.

But the fact remains that Bean's flip stands a chance of telling us Emp's alignment. Emp's flip will not reveal anything about Bean.

Unless he comes up scum. Then we have confirmed cop-type role. Emp... claim?

If he comes up Scum, Bean could in theory be bussing.

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sens, the vig(s) will take care of me if i'm wrong/lying - there won't be 2 mislynches

I don't want you vig'd if you're just Insane. That's dumb.

And lynching him today is better?

Read my posts. I know you're a better player than this.

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Sens, what do you think Emp's disappearance tells us?

Possibly that he's Scum.
Possibly that he had a heart attack.
Possibly that he had to take a piss.

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this is ridiculous, emp is hiding in the shadows not posting b/c he's obviously guilty and sens wants to lynch me instead.

if you lynch me, then vig emp and lynch sens tomorrow

Bean, instead of trying to set up lynches, use logic.

Your flips has a chance of telling us Emp's alignment.
Emp's flip will not narrow down your alignment at all.

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Sens, what do you think Emp's disappearance tells us?

Possibly that he's Scum.
Possibly that he had a heart attack.
Possibly that he had to take a piss.

possibly that he had to take a piss because he's scum who had a heat attack

(You're making my point)

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And I will say this RIGHT NOW.

If Bean investigates me, he will likely get a result of non-Town, if he is Sane.

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And I will say this RIGHT NOW.

If Bean investigates me, he will likely get a result of non-Town, if he is Sane.

I was going to investigate you, thanks for the miller claim

Call this WIFOM all you want, but if I was Scum, I'd make you waste the investigation on me.

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Why would he investigate me, KMD?

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Why would he investigate me, KMD?

Actually, never mind. He knows his sanity when Emp is revealed.

But we still don't know his alignment, regardless of what Emp flips as.

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Sensfan was a special 3rd party role that only won if another player won (plum) and he did not get any knowledge of Plum's win condition though could bodyguard her if he wanted, but he never did. he turned survivor when plum died and lost imediatly there too because plum herself killed him because she never knew about him either. Blind is Blind

Owww

QFFT.

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Knew sens and forbiddan were scum day 1.

I wasn't Scum.

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Hey Poker,

Was I not fucked enough by not knowing my alignment? Did I really HAVE to be tied to an SK, of all roles...

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So sens was basically a SK traitor who turned survivor if the sk died?

Errh, Don't see how that's not scum.

Sens didn't know he was a fucking SK.