Bastard Face Mafia (Over) Town and sirdanilot win

[Mr. Bean]

in.

[Mr. Bean]

got my role

[Mr. Bean]

vote forbiddanlight

[Mr. Bean]

unvote, vote Mr. Bean

[Mr. Bean]

Kokusho's Gambit...

ACCEPTED

Unvote, Vote Mr.Bean

Seriously, why the self vote?

get this game rolling

[Mr. Bean]

i wouldn't vote Mr. Bean after he voted himself, because i wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of win condition as long as he gets lynched

like SF said, that not really a good reason to not vote

unvote, vote xofelf

[Mr. Bean]

i'm not a jester... i'm not voting myself anymore

[Mr. Bean]

i'm not a jester... i'm not voting myself anymore

so why did you vote for yourself in the first place?

vote mister bean

a way to get the game rolling, which FL says is not good

[Mr. Bean]

how's it scummy

[Mr. Bean]

charter has the right idea

[Mr. Bean]

how's it scummy

How is it not scummy? If you are Town, you just voted for the one person you know is Town.

It also lets you get out of the RVS too easily.

getting out of rvs is good for town. i made my random vote already

[Mr. Bean]

I'd argue that getting out of the RVS that quickly isn't good for Town.

This. It's good to get out of it, but not so soon since it deprives the town of the "scum slip" that usually brings us out.

but i thought my self vote was a scum slip (lol)

[Mr. Bean]

xofelf - said voting me was bad because i could be jester, then changes her mind and votes me when votes start racking up

[Mr. Bean]

but i thought my self vote was a scum slip (lol)

Technically, but it's hard to go off of. There are actions that are scummier that tend to break an RVS. Essentially, it's barely giving you a -2, but it was worth voting. Your subsequent behavior pushes you into more scummy territory.

what subsequent behavior

[Mr. Bean]

more xofelf votes - she hasn't even bothered to respond to my accusation

[Mr. Bean]

what subsequent behavior

No effort to defend self, no real scumhunting, just a bunch of words that mean nothing.

What do you believe he has done after explaining his self vote that qualifies as 'not helping himself'?

are you serious? xofelf is scummy for her flip/flop voting - what do you think of that
See above It's what he hasn't done.

[Mr. Bean]

oops

what subsequent behavior

No effort to defend self, no real scumhunting, just a bunch of words that mean nothing.

What do you believe he has done after explaining his self vote that qualifies as 'not helping himself'?

See above It's what he hasn't done.

are you serious? xofelf is scummy for her flip/flop voting - what do you think of that

[Mr. Bean]

caboose needs to post;

i'd support a xofelf lynch with millar/empking hammer

[Mr. Bean]

pf can you prod caboose/xtoxm

[Mr. Bean]

Lol, are you guy really buying the xofelf bravado claim? it's obvscum.

Let me reiterate:

if xofelf is town aligned bomber of some sort, the nonchalance of the claim make no sense at all.

if xofelf is jester bomb of some sort, the threatening make no sense because he would want to be lynched.

xofelf is obscum.

I'll hammer if you want.

this is a good point - i'm not taking the SS claim that seriously; it's something SK/scum could threaten to avoid getting lynched
looks like a panic claim from xofelf

[Mr. Bean]

Fonz is correct about lurking = scummy, especially in marathon/IRC

[Mr. Bean]

Lol, are you guy really buying the xofelf bravado claim? it's obvscum.

Let me reiterate:

if xofelf is town aligned bomber of some sort, the nonchalance of the claim make no sense at all.

if xofelf is jester bomb of some sort, the threatening make no sense because he would want to be lynched.

xofelf is obscum.

I'll hammer if you want.

this is a good point - i'm not taking the SS claim that seriously; it's something SK/scum could threaten to avoid getting lynched
looks like a panic claim from xofelf

You willing to hammer xofelf?

obviously

[Mr. Bean]

emp is scum

vote: empking

[Mr. Bean]

emp is scum

vote: empking

Is that a claim?

yup

[Mr. Bean]

i'm an alpaca, i can lock up players in zoo at the night and find out if they're aligned with town or not

[Mr. Bean]

i'm an alpaca, i can lock up players in zoo at the night and find out if they're aligned with town or not

So he's not town. Not necessarily mafia.

that's true, considering the emo role. still he's not town

[Mr. Bean]

We lynch Bean. If he comes up SANE Alpaca, we lynch Emp.

wait, you're going to lynch someone you think is town, to see if the other person is scum?

FoS: SensFan

[Mr. Bean]

or, we could just lynch emp and he flips scum

[Mr. Bean]

Sens, why are you so certain we'll be told his sanity on the flip?

Because we were told that charter was Insane.

well, what's the odds that i'm insane too - that's gotta decrease them, you would think

[Mr. Bean]

Lynch Emp instead...

Lynching one to test another is a bad idea.

And if Emp is town, the vidge can shoot Bean.

This.

[Mr. Bean]

sens, the vig(s) will take care of me if i'm wrong/lying - there won't be 2 mislynches

[Mr. Bean]

lynch one, vidge the other. tomato tomato.

Lynching Bean tells us Emp's alignment.
Lynching Emp tells us shit all about Bean.

how does lynching me tell emp's alignment? other than if i come up sane, you'll believe me?
lynch emp and him coming up non-town is the same, plus, we get rid of a non-town.

[Mr. Bean]

sens, the vig(s) will take care of me if i'm wrong/lying - there won't be 2 mislynches

I don't want you vig'd if you're just Insane. That's dumb.

so, you'd rather lynch instead, if I'm insane?

Fonz, isn't that something to consider?

[Mr. Bean]

lynch one, vidge the other. tomato tomato.

Lynching Bean tells us Emp's alignment.
Lynching Emp tells us shit all about Bean.

how does lynching me tell emp's alignment? other than if i come up sane, you'll believe me?
lynch emp and him coming up non-town is the same, plus, we get rid of a non-town.

If you flip SaneTown, Emp is non-Town.
If you flip InsaneTown, Emp is Town.
If you flip Scum, Emp could be anything.

If Emp flips Town, you could be Insane or Scum.
If Emp flips non-Town, you could be Sane or Scum.

yeah, but, if i'm not sane, i'm probably paranoid, not insane; then we'd have a sane cop and all would be good in the world

[Mr. Bean]

this is ridiculous, emp is hiding in the shadows not posting b/c he's obviously guilty and sens wants to lynch me instead.

if you lynch me, then vig emp and lynch sens tomorrow

[Mr. Bean]

Sens, what do you think Emp's disappearance tells us?

Possibly that he's Scum.
Possibly that he had a heart attack.
Possibly that he had to take a piss.

possibly that he had to take a piss because he's scum who had a heat attack

[Mr. Bean]

And I will say this RIGHT NOW.

If Bean investigates me, he will likely get a result of non-Town, if he is Sane.

I was going to investigate you, thanks for the miller claim

[Mr. Bean]

or are you claim something else entirely

[Mr. Bean]

And I will say this RIGHT NOW.

If Bean investigates me, he will likely get a result of non-Town, if he is Sane.

I was going to investigate you, thanks for the miller claim

Call this WIFOM all you want, but if I was Scum, I'd make you waste the investigation on me.

it's not really wasted then is it

[Mr. Bean]

sens already said he would come up not-town

[Mr. Bean]

mod, vote count?

[Mr. Bean]

investigated zazier and was non-town - i'm either paranoid or insane

fonz what are you smokin

[Mr. Bean]

prolly, with sens recruited N1

i wanna know what fonz was talking about with kison yesterday, too

[Mr. Bean]

Kison. DID ANYTHING HAPPEN TO YOU TONIGHT?

[Mr. Bean]

I'll need replacement in ~ 10 min.

you still here?

[Mr. Bean]

That would be me. My role makes it harder to lynch people.

I replaced Zazier and am town.

Mr. Bean, what were your results from night 1?

non-town on empking

[Mr. Bean]

all of this assumes the reveals are correct, not like in Bad Reveal. but i think the reveals are correct, though.

[Mr. Bean]

i have the same feel towards spring, but more so for kmd. i'll have to go back and read his posts.

seraphim, what exactly is your role? nameclaim?

[Mr. Bean]

Guys, we won't have a night 3. We'll go from Day 3 directly to Day 4.

what do you mean, where did you get that?

[Mr. Bean]

kmd... WHAT?

[Mr. Bean]

you said "we", not you, when you first posted that

[Mr. Bean]

I don't think there is a cult. I think we're being bastard modded so it looks like it.

so you're saying sens was just a survivor?

[Mr. Bean]

kmd, are you saying that your role lets us skip the night?

[Mr. Bean]

Vote: Mr. Bean

Something from night makes me think Bean might be scum. There's a couple other possibilities to explain it though.

that's really vague, and only makes me more likely to vote you. what do you mean?

[Mr. Bean]

I targeted Bean and the effect only works if he's town. But maybe I was blocked.

Should he know what happened?

no

are there any other ways it wouldn't have worked? did you use it N1?

[Mr. Bean]

<--- The role is called Godfather (ugh). I can Vidge using someone else as the killer as long as they are town. I had Empking kill charter night 1. I tried to get Bean to kill Fonz last night. It was mostly a gut feeling on fonz.

and you didn't say anything yesterday about emp?

[Mr. Bean]

well, we get two lynches, in effect, so we have room for error

jahudo, it's also possible fonz was blocked. either of you being blocked would result in no-kill, right?

[Mr. Bean]

well, we get two lynches, in effect, so we have room for error

jahudo, it's also possible fonz was blocked. either of you being blocked would result in no-kill, right?

oh sorry, you were using me to kill fonz - i wasn't blocked b/c I received my result

[Mr. Bean]

i still don't know. jahudo, what do you mean by you "could be insane"?

[Mr. Bean]

fonz, who did you target last night?

[Mr. Bean]

two? they both died.
did you target anyone other than kison N1?

[Mr. Bean]

oh wow, i didn't even consider NK-immunity. that could also explain it.

if we lynch fonz and he isn't NK-immune scum, then either I'm scum or jahudo was RB'd. i'd like to hear from caf19, first, though.

[Mr. Bean]

my mind is spinning, reading back, more slowly

[Mr. Bean]

ok, kmd was telling the truth, and i don't see how that would be a mafia role. could be neutral (like cult), but he's probably town.

jahudo and fonz are symmetrical, so i think they're town.

i think caf and sera are the most likely as scum (prolly not both), and caf is most likely to be. he could have easily made up the watch "result", especially since fonz already said he was a tour guide.

[Mr. Bean]

i think caf and sera are the most likely as scum (prolly not both), and caf is most likely to be. he could have easily made up the watch "result", especially since fonz already said he was a tour guide.

Sera's role makes no sense for scum.

why not, it makes it more difficult for someone to be lynched, right?

[Mr. Bean]

vote: caf

since my choice is caf or me

[Mr. Bean]

yeah, sera's role isn't scumpower - he would have used it on a teammate, and i don't think fonz is scum.

[Mr. Bean]

we've had two nights, and sens was recruited N1. so, there would be a CR and another follower

[Mr. Bean]

we've had two nights, and sens was recruited N1. so, there would be a CR and another follower

Shit, he's right. And anyone can be recruited and just claim their original role...

unvote

need some time to think about pairs

[Mr. Bean]

Unvote

Vote: Bean

Sorry, didn't realize

he

said Emp was scum. I'm semi-afk for my last 40 minutes in this game.

i went back to this kison post D2, and, i don't know but I can see this as a result of Sens' push to lynch me. he originally voted emp based on my guilty, then switched

[Mr. Bean]

well that was a fun one, but unlucky that millar, our doc died N1.

good work town, it was pretty much over after the massclaim.

still wondering how there were 4 kills N1

[Mr. Bean]

springlullaby was supposed to kill SensFan N1, and frame him as mafia godfather, which never happened, either. the idea, obviously, was to make me look not-mafia.

[Mr. Bean]

i knew selfvoting would get a big response, but clearly underestimated Sens' determination to pursue it. i'm pretty sure i would do that as town, too, occasionally though.

[Mr. Bean]

i'm pretty exhausted after that - i'm stepping out for dinner

sorry millar

[Mr. Bean]

Sensfan was a special 3rd party role that only won if another player won (plum) and he did not get any knowledge of Plum's win condition though could bodyguard her if he wanted, but he never did. he turned survivor when plum died and lost imediatly there too because plum herself killed him because she never knew about him either. Blind is Blind

he might have thought she knew about him, since they seemed to always be thinking the same thing. he even said that himself (that they were thinking the same things).

[Mr. Bean]

Btw, I find hilarious the fact that people didn't believed Bean so long because his claim didn't check out

yeah, i'm amazed i wasn't vigged (sorry PF ) earlier. or SK killed

[Mr. Bean]

As I said, I probably would have.

but we were counting on it N1... millar was protecting me