Bastard Face Mafia (Over) Town and sirdanilot win

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/in.

See? Signups exploded while I cooked.

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It will not be as evil as my "Surprise everyone is really an SK" bastard game that I ran last night.

I totally should have played that

and or overpowered roles. Very few seem cruel and I believe I balanced things well enough so that everyone should have an equal chance at victory

Good, I enjoy swingy but equal games

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I can play for about 4 hours.

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/confirm

Vote Pokerface

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Vote Pokerface

Policy.

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Kokusho's Gambit...

ACCEPTED

Unvote, Vote Mr.Bean

Seriously, why the self vote?

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00)PokerFace the unlynchable - 1(forbiddanlight)

Oh, I could lynch you. Just wait.

But another game.

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get this game rolling

It's a horrible way to do it, to be quite honest.

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forbiddan, what's your alignment?

Chaotic Awesome.

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So... FL... is your policy that selfvoting in the RVS is scummy unless you always do it?

Yep ^-^. I'm a meta whore, I admit it.

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Seriously. Town, Scum, Other?

Well, considering no matter what my alignment is I'll say town...

Three headed guardian of the Gates of Hades.

No, really.

(alright, town)

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i'm not a jester... i'm not voting myself anymore

Yeah, but you initially did it. Could be setting yourself up for the self hammer.

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Bean 'explained' his selfvote

Yeah. It didn't cut it really.

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a way to get the game rolling, which FL says is not good

Doing something scummy to 'get the game rolling' is still scummy.

This.

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millar is bending like a willow. Not sure I like this.

Mr.Bean is deflecting.

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getting out of rvs is good for town. i made my random vote already

It's good for town, but it's not good to end it like that. You basically deprive the town of information.

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Townys do it all the time...plus mafia dont tend to lynch these players in the belief the town will do it for them in the day

Not many of them. I know of one person who I will call a self vote a null tell on. Maybe two, IIRC UA does it.

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I'd argue that getting out of the RVS that quickly isn't good for Town.

This. It's good to get out of it, but not so soon since it deprives the town of the "scum slip" that usually brings us out.

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but i thought my self vote was a scum slip (lol)

Technically, but it's hard to go off of. There are actions that are scummier that tend to break an RVS. Essentially, it's barely giving you a -2, but it was worth voting. Your subsequent behavior pushes you into more scummy territory.

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FL, what do you mean by scum slip?

An action that is more likely to be done by scum than town. It's not surefire indicative of alignment, but it's the best way to get things going.

Whereas a self vote is weak enough so it could go either way, and I wanted to vote to see what Bean did. He's not helping himself.

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what subsequent behavior

No effort to defend self, no real scumhunting, just a bunch of words that mean nothing.

What do you believe he has done after explaining his self vote that qualifies as 'not helping himself'?

See above It's what he hasn't done.

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So, FL, you're voting him because he's NOT scummy?

j/k

I'm voting him because I needed to poke him. Self votes are...inbetween lean slightly scummy

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You think his explanation of why he self voted does not constitute as a defense? Isn't that the only real accusation against him at this point?

No, I added lack of scumhunting, and his excuse sucks.

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are you serious? xofelf is scummy for her flip/flop voting - what do you think of that

I think one person at a time til this becomes mini size. I see xofelf. She also just claimed Supersaint. I could see a scum supersaint.

How about this? We all vote xofelf and make bean hammer?

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Because she has mentioned a supposed motive behind her attacks on Mr. Bean which I think is faulty. If you have, I haven't caught it. The game is moving quickly.

Explain why it is faulty?

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I'd prefer a Bean lynch.

Not a bean hammer of xo?

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wait how are we going to force people to hammer?

They get lynched if they don't.

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Fonz, I'll lynch scummy people before active lurkers.

This.

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This implies that active lurking is not just about the best indicator of scum i've found.

...fair point for now.

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I have several games worth of meta on millar. This is normal millar play.

I think I'm noticing that millar lives up to his name, lol.

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how am i living up to my name?

You apparently act scummy in every game. So not only do cops think you are scum, but everyone else does .

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Cowboy up!

Did I miss something?

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I'm liking that forbiddan and I seem to be on the same wavelength. It gives me good vibes about her.

I personally don't think someone agreeing with says much about them. Bean is fairly scummy, so it's not like my alignment is indicated suspecting him. As for suggesting scummy people hammer the supersaint, so did everyone else.

tl;dr: I don't care about agreement .

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Someone scummy, hammar.

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If Bean does not hammer, he is the lynch tomorrow (provided he isn't vidged)

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This is the bit when we call on four different players to hammer, and none do.

We can be rid of them easily though.

PF game means it will ALWAYS have a vidge. We lynch one of the others tomorrow, and then go from there.

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I find it hilarious that Sens and I were on the "Same wavelength" and he ends up being my blind follower.

Sucks I lost, but it happens. I was mostly playing as if I were a vig.

Also, SELF VOTING IS SCUMMY AND CAUGHT SCUM! MORAL VICTORY!

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Oh, I killed millar btw. Not a bad shot ^-^

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for killing me....get involved lol

No thanks. I'm going to run my bastardly game in a minute. It's gonna be quick. 15 minute days, 5 minute nights, and madness.

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Who killed miller?

I did. And it just so HAPPENED I was scum. I was actually playing my townie game when I called bean.

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As I said, I play SK as vidge. Sens was pretty cool, and probably would have lived awhile, at least not dying due to my kill.

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He would have died night 1 if not for caboose.

I know. But that wouldn't be MY kill

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I replaced forbiddanlight? Didn't hit me at first . . .

lmao. Wow.

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1585762

Crazy mafia. Everyone should join it.

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yeah, i'm amazed i wasn't vigged (sorry PF Very Happy) earlier. or SK killed

As I said, I probably would have.

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but we were counting on it N1... millar was protecting me Very Happy

millar was vidge fodder. Thusly I was acting as a vidge