Mini 767: Cubic Mafia (Game Over!)

[MafiaSSK]

Hello everyone. First mini normal in a while. Rereading.

[MafiaSSK]

EBWOP:Amazingly PhillyEc is in this game too.

[MafiaSSK]

There's a whole lot of active lurking going on this game.

I, for one, am starting to get annoyed at it.

I'm suspicious of all of you who are posting things like "I'm bored" or making these short posts. It doesn't really help your case either that you're not contributing anything on your own to the game as well.

Vote: Beyond_Birthday

You really think in a game where there is GIANT walls of texts you are not going to get active lurkers? Do you think people will all post the walls of text to 5 pages into the game?

[MafiaSSK]

Vote Magnus

Being too overly aggressive for a townie.

[MafiaSSK]

[preview edit: I see SSK has voted. Could you explain what you mean by 'aggressive' in this sense, and why it is a scumtell? I've played with aggressive townies before, and they're just remorseless and argumentative by their nature and it seems largely independent of role.]

Aggressive as in attacking everyone in the game. It's a scumtell because aggressiveness shows that they want night more and do not like the day. This usually means that they are mafia.

[MafiaSSK]

aSSK"]Aggressive as in attacking everyone in the game. It's a scumtell because aggressiveness shows that they want night more and do not like the day. This usually means that they are mafia.

In Day One I'm not suprised. Theres been no concentration on scummy players yet since we've not made much progress, would you agree? The only problem is, attacking everyone doesnt help anyone. More concentration on scummiest players is more appropriate.

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That's almost exactly what I'm trying to say. Attacking everyone does not help town and is as thus anti-town and deserves a vote. He should concentrate on the more scummy of players if he wants to be considered pro-town.

[MafiaSSK]

SSK: Posting frequently, which is also unusual for him, but this may be because he's no longer burnt out after taking a break.
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So taking a break is now an excuse for scummy behavior? Why don't we all just do that then? Then scum could all be acted as town and every game would be broken.

[MafiaSSK]

@Mafiassk: I'm not voting. (well, I wasn't, I am now) If I'm trying to get to night phase, my method of doing so sucks. Of course this is wifom, but your reasoning is lolsomely awful and based on gross generalization.

So you had run out of reasons for attacking everyone until now and attacked Philly. You really don't care who gets lynched. Also by doing WIFOM, you have yet another scumtell.

[MafiaSSK]

He should concentrate on the more scummy of players if he wants to be considered pro-town.

Who are these "more scummy of players" that he should be concentrating on?

Wrong choice of words. He should concentrate on people that have a more solid ground for being scum.

[MafiaSSK]

He should concentrate on the more scummy of players if he wants to be considered pro-town.

Who are these "more scummy of players" that he should be concentrating on?

Wrong choice of words. He should concentrate on people that have a more solid ground for being scum.

LOL, the question was who, so reclarifying it doesn't make the question go away does it?

Stop not doing what the inner quote says.

So you had run out of reasons for attacking everyone until now and attacked Philly. You really don't care who gets lynched. Also by doing WIFOM, you have yet another scumtell.

Right, I don't care who gets lynched [/sarcasm] So, care to back that statement up? Because I want my suspects lynched.
Preferably philly, because I'm pretty sure he's scum.
Or do you disagree with that assessment?
I'd like to hear your reasoning on a few other players, besides me. (And including how I interact with them as the defining quality is unhelpful.)

It seems you have suspected nearly everyone in the game. So you want everyone lynched? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your assessment of philly being scum. I'll define other players later.

[MafiaSSK]

*
MafiaSSK-?- I just met the guy.

I have some posts. How can you not deduct anything from them?

[MafiaSSK]

Will post later tonight.

[MafiaSSK]

I know. I ran into a limited amount of time due to Passover. Still don't have enough tonight. For sure a post tomorrow.

[MafiaSSK]

Quick look through says Magnus seems town.

Unvote.

[MafiaSSK]

Philly/Zwet wagon I don't mind...

[MafiaSSK]

Hi everybody!

Looks like the person I am replacing was a lurker...so I should be able to change that fairly quickly. Just hold on while I reread and we'll get this party started! Looking forward to scumhunting with you guys.

Yay. Seraphim!

[MafiaSSK]

Caf seems like aggressive scum. Caf wagon is a go!

Unvote vote caf

[MafiaSSK]

MafiaSSk, RBT- any more of a case on Caf19? I am finding it pretty easy to resist the urge to jump on the slowly forming bandwagon, because... well, no one has really put forward any reason to do so. The "say very little, say very little, then- vote this guy!" approach is not at all convincing. If we are going to pick someone arbitrarily and vote for them, I am happier with my initial random vote on Flame/Seraphim, because he still has not said anything at all.

Nope. The case is already enough for a lynch.

[MafiaSSK]

Vote:Walnut

He's overdefending.

[MafiaSSK]

BB, what if Walnut is indeed scum who is his accomplice(s)?

[MafiaSSK]

I am willing to drop votes in order to prevent a no-lynch. Currently, I am doing a thorough read of the game in order to grasp the various nuances...

Also, I suck at day ones anyway.

Even day ones like these?

[MafiaSSK]

Secondly, MafiaSSK has shot up my scumdar with those flips. With approximately two words of explanation on each, he first voted magnus (a confirmed townie), then me (a townie obv), and finally Walnut (a confirmed townie). He seemed happy enough to lynch any of those three. Being laconic is one thing, but this is just voting townies repeatedly and with next to no explanation. SSK, I expect more from you today. Proper expansion on your reasoning, please - I'm not going to let you get away with how you played yesterday.

Thirdly, less lurking from everyone today plz. Seraphim, finished reading yet? Trumpet, we haven't heard from you in a while either.

It's my playstyle. Read other games of mine and you'll learn that.

[MafiaSSK]

Secondly, MafiaSSK has shot up my scumdar with those flips. With approximately two words of explanation on each, he first voted magnus (a confirmed townie), then me (a townie obv), and finally Walnut (a confirmed townie). He seemed happy enough to lynch any of those three. Being laconic is one thing, but this is just voting townies repeatedly and with next to no explanation. SSK, I expect more from you today. Proper expansion on your reasoning, please - I'm not going to let you get away with how you played yesterday.

Thirdly, less lurking from everyone today plz. Seraphim, finished reading yet? Trumpet, we haven't heard from you in a while either.

It's my playstyle. Read other games of mine and you'll learn that.

Right. So, who looks suspicious to you, given the flips we've seen?

You. Still.

[MafiaSSK]

The probability of Isacc being scum is way higher than that of BB being scum. He's definitely the right lynch.

I think everyone should check in before we rush to end the day though. Nocmen, Seraphim - what do you think of events thus far?

QFT.

Vote Issaac

[MafiaSSK]

3) MafiaSSK is another Walnut wagon surprise. I don't really think he ever gave any explanation at all for that vote.

If I vote a person, they are scummy. That is my only reasoning if there is no other text in that post.

[MafiaSSK]

You don't have a read on me because I don't want you to.

MafiaSSK seems most scummy to me. On my first read of the game, I noticed his meta defense of himself. Frankly, I could care less about his meta. His behavior isn't townish so I don't like it. I don't think caf is scum and I don't think phail is scum either. I think SSK is where my vote belongs right now.

Vote: MafiaSSK

See DGB,Zwet,Emp.

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote
Vote: madeofphail

Brilliant post by Seraphim here. /sarcasm

Unvote vote Sera

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote
Vote: madeofphail

Brilliant post by Seraphim here. /sarcasm

Unvote vote Sera

It's not too far from the kind of post you have infrequently made in this game...

so?

[MafiaSSK]

I think with Isacc equaling obv scum, a scum buddy is most likely to hammer.

I'll actually

Vote Seraphim

primarily for that.

Has Sera claimed?

[MafiaSSK]

Is he at L-1, even?

L2. Still enough for a claim.

[MafiaSSK]

Unvote
Vote: madeofphail

Brilliant post by Seraphim here. /sarcasm

Unvote vote Sera

It's not too far from the kind of post you have infrequently made in this game...

so?

I didn't see you voting yourself for making underexplained votes. It's hypocrisy.

Self-voting would be anti-town now wouldn't it?

Has Sera claimed?

Sera has 2 votes, the same number as phail currently has. Why should he claim?

Sera's more scummier.

[MafiaSSK]

Hmmm, I got simul-posted.

Was I just seriously bandwagoned to L-1 in less than an hour? I would highly suggest someone unvote. Then, I will claim.

The votes on me are almost all bullcrap.

KoC, why do you want me to claim so badly?
MafiaSSK, same question.
B_B, answer my question above.

Unvote

I want you to claim because you're really aggressive which I find an epic scum-tell for you.

[MafiaSSK]

Really? You think you can read me that well? That's hilarious, honestly.

I am the Innocent Child. When the mod next logs on, he will confirm my innocence in this thread.

Yes, I can.

Would an Innocent Child really be a part of a

NORMAL

setup?

[MafiaSSK]

Yep. I didn't quite get it either but you know, whatever.

Do you think I'm lying?

Yes, I do. If you're not lying, then I will make a thread in MD asking this question.

Unvote, vote Seraphim

[MafiaSSK]

Wait, why didn't you use this ability beforehand?

[MafiaSSK]

I wanted to hunt for scum as long as possible without the scum NKing me. I would suggest unvoting me again because the mod comes around, I will be confirmed as town. Just trust me on this.

I'll only unvote if the mod says it. I still don't quite trust you

[MafiaSSK]

First of all, I am keeping my vote on Seraphim because he could be a role which could communicate through the mod and have the mod post whatever he wanted.

Ok, SSK blew up my scumdar with his behaviour today.

Voting a claimed innocent child? What kind of scum would do a fakeclaim that the freakin' MOD is going to come in and discredit within the next few hours, making him an instalynch? Jeez.

See above ^

The speedpush for a claim by SSK and KoC was also conducted in an anti-town manner. In my opinion, there was nowhere near enough evidence presented against Sera to warrant this, especially as you didn't even wait for him to attempt an explanation of 425. Secondly, it would hardly have hurt to wait more than five minutes for the rest of the town (BB, phail, Trumpet) to say whether or not they wanted Sera to claim.

So you're saying that if you find somone scummy, then you won't want them to claim espsecially at L1?

And his continued voting of townies on D1, with almost no explanation for any of it.

No reason in the post=Gut vibe.

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[MafiaSSK]

Mod: Would you use the Innocent Child the same was as IAAUN would have?

I liked the role in the options for C9++ so I used it. It is the exact same role for all intents and purposes.

[MafiaSSK]

First of all, I am keeping my vote on Seraphim because he could be a role which could communicate through the mod and have the mod post whatever he wanted.

I find this to be very unlikely. Do you still think it's likely now that the mod's posted a second confirmation in your post 467?

Could be a fakeclaim given.

So you're saying that if you find somone scummy, then you won't want them to claim espsecially at L1?

No, I would, but I would also wait to see if other people actually agreed with me. Even if that would have been the case in this situation (which I don't really understand as Sera had only really made one scummy post, but whatever), it wouldn't have killed you to wait more than five minutes to make sure. As it was, the whole procedure had an incredibly rushed and improper feel to it.

You don't usually wait for everyone to agree on that before asking for a claim.

No reason in the post=Gut vibe.

No, no reason in the post = a method that allows you to vote anyone you want, and then retrospectively give any reason for that vote (e.g. 'gut vibe') when asked about it later. You've done too much scummy stuff to brush it away under the blanket of 'it's my playstyle' any longer.

But it is my playstyle.

[MafiaSSK]

This is really really really stupid. The mod pm'd me to say that Seraphim is indeed mod-confirmed town. This is mod interaction with the game by not letting me believe in my own theories. Fine though,

Unvote

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Also, I'm a VT.

[MafiaSSK]

I approve of it, I'm willing to hammer it, but if the rest of the town wants more discussion, I'll wait.

Summarization of case plz?

[MafiaSSK]

- Ignoring any accusations levelled at you, or worse, OMGUSing against them (see caf19)
- Giving absolutely no reasoning behind your votes, then when pressed claiming those votes were based on "gut" - so why didn't you just say that beforehand, pray tell?
- Bandwagon hopping as it suits you
- Using the meta defence to justify the fact you've been scummy all game.

-Caf19 wasn't an OMGUS
-Because it developed right after the game started
-Bandwagons have a purpose. The person getting lynched is usually scummy enough
-It's because it's true

[MafiaSSK]

I wonder...I need to look back at BB's play but I wonder if D2 was a scum gambit to get BB cleared...?

Unvote

I don't think I like the SSK wagon...

Good thoughts.

[MafiaSSK]

Hmm. This game kinda slowed down.

SSK, if you're not scum, who do you think is scum?

caf.

[MafiaSSK]

Any particular reason?

Aggressiveness.

[MafiaSSK]

Oh man. I played terribly in this game. Much apologies.