MKM II GAME OVER

[pacman281292]

Vote: zwetschenwatever.

It's impossible you make such longposts.

[pacman281292]

this thread needs more spamming
zwet go!

Wasn't Gimbo the bane of MKM1 because of his perpetual spam?

no I think he was banned for bad behaviour in newb games
Also his alt (syzygy) struck the game later.

[pacman281292]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.
Name massclaiming gives scum far too many hints, and even more in a Mario-themed game, as there are many "effects" known that certain roles might do. It's bad. Nothing more to discuss.

Bandwagoning pop for this was also bad. Too early.

[pacman281292]

Ace, why are you against a massclaim?
Precisely, plz.

Pop, that looks as if you were supporting a name massclaim.

No, no. Thats like asking someone why do you disagree with a random event. I want to know his reasons.

In the way you state it, it looks like if you were for.

[pacman281292]

If somebody claims Mario, would you believe him, yes or not?

Why would someone claim Mario? check the flavor more carefully...
Also, answering such would be outguessing the mod, as you are telling us to *think* if a Mario claimer is scum or not.

[pacman281292]

...HA! Lawrencelot pulled a Space Monkey on us! I completely fell for it, too. I thought I was scum.

Mod: NICE one

As much as I hate to say it, Zwet's in the clear this game. Mafia would know that the Army was the uninformed and therefore NOT make that slip. Town that thought they were scum? That's right up their alley.

Unvote, Vote: AceMarksman

FoS: Shinnen_no_Me

whoa... good point.
But this can lead to WIFOM. Smeone can intentionally slip to get that argument. Or...
Ouch. I hate WIFOM.
My conclussion: zwet's slip might have been confusion (nulltell, remember he's zwet), Gorrad's answer is nulltell.

Surye: Do you think this quote make it clear that MKers are the invaders/ambigious/clear that BA are the invaders?

After the successful defence against the attack of Bowser and his army (link), the people of the Mushroom Kingdom

decide to strike back and get rid of Bowser’s army once and for all. They plan an assault on Bowser’s Castle

, the residence of the now slain King of the Koopas. After the preparations they successfully get inside the castle,

because without their great leader the guard turns out to be very ineffective. But inside, it is so dark that nobody can see who is who.

Again, everybody has to find out who is who in order to kill who they want to kill.

Maybe the inhabitants of this castle aren’t so helpless after all...

That's pretty clear to me. MK are the invaders. I realized it quickly, after a double reread of that. Keys for that are on bold.

Wait a second.
We have items that only Bowser's Army know how they work.
Can we massively confirm people with this?

No. That's too risky, as:
a) Law may have thought about that and he would have placed a disincourager for such claims
b) We get some confirmations only if a) doesn't apply, and we get it for our possibility of launching surprise attacks to MK.

[pacman281292]

pacman, your b) is the only legit reason for not item claiming. Is there an item that won't ruin the game for us (and to answer caf, because I can't buy items,

I don't know what they do either

)

WE RECEIVE WHAT THE ITEMS DO.

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-zwetschenwasser (4): populartajo, pacman281292, AceMarksman, Shinnen_no_Me
-AceMarksman (3): caf19, zwetschenwasser, Gorrad
-populartajo (2): qwints, ortolan
-Shinnen_no_Me (2): Riceballtail, Surye
-Dubya (1): Shadow Knight
-Gorrad (1): Empking

Not voting (4): killa seven, Moratorium, Dubya, Cream147

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch.

[pacman281292]

Not characters that can't buy items.

??????
why u softclaim?

[pacman281292]

It's useless. That's what Law did; put people town that can't buy items and confirm themselves.
The only good thing I would see on that is that it puts the scum on WIFOM... but I think it's too risky. I disagree with that thing.

[pacman281292]

It's useless. That's what Law did; put people town that can't buy items and confirm themselves.
The only good thing I would see on that is that it puts the scum on WIFOM... but I think it's too risky. I disagree with that thing.

But thats only the first part of the plan, pacman...
Why are you so sure about what Law did?

BECAUSE PEOPLE IS CLAIMING SO
DUH
Either that or they are lying... Also, I'm wary of such "plans" since B5 mafia.

[pacman281292]

Do YOU have item descriptions?

The question is stupid and suicidal, but I'll answer: YES I do.

[pacman281292]

Now that I think about this, I find it to be a not so good idea. If we assume as true that some roles can't buy items, we will assume that the ones that can are more powerful. By claiming who can and who can't, we're just giving the mafia a pretty good list of who they should kill at nights. Sorry, but I'm not finding that a very smart thing to do.

I hate you, specially when you say exactly what I was going to say

[pacman281292]

OK, real life sucks.
My internet bill for the last 2 months somewhat sumed up to the equivalent of $800, so my mother is going to sue the telephone company. Meanwhile, I'm V/LA, and I see it will be long. So, I'll try to commit to the minimum stuff (i.e. modding the game I'm currently modding, finishing some yet advanced games, you know that kind of stuff).
Sorry folks.
MOD: Please replace me.