Mini 779 - Killer in Smalltown Y - Over

[malthusis]

Hi, I'm Richard.

MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[malthusis]

Where did Bruce the guy I sold the ste.......

stuff

to go?

Mod: Has he even picked his PM up yet?

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Tick-tock.......................

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Can we have a replacement? It would be nice to start this game soon.....

[malthusis]

If we don't get a replacement for Shinnen_no_Me or something similar very soon, I will request replacement.

QFT

[malthusis]

Can we start the day?


If yes

Vote Tom (Ash)

for trying to steal my title of creepiest person here.

[malthusis]

If it is night, you may want to lock the thread......

Done, and done.

[malthusis]

Note: Grimmy is speaking in Chinese for the translator

@Grimmy: I agree that a mis-lynch is bad for us right now, and I'm fairly certain that Tina(Y) is scum from the fact that she blocked me last night, and only scum would block the closest thing we have to a cop here.

Vote Tina

[malthusis]

I think this just in character (this is an Open game you know).

What did you think about my theory?

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@Grimmy:

How do you know Johnny used his ability? He might have not have (You should see what he advertises, by the way.... )

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EBWOP:

malthusis wrote:
@Grimmy: I agree that a mis-lynch is bad for us right now, and I'm fairly certain that Tina(Y) is scum from the fact that she blocked me last night, and only scum would block the closest thing we have to a cop here. Vote Tina


Why discount being kidnapped by Charles (imaginality)?

Oops, forget about that one.

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malthusis wrote:
I agree that a mis-lynch is bad for us right now, and I'm fairly certain that Tina(Y) is scum from the fact that she blocked me last night, and only scum would block the closest thing we have to a cop here. Vote Tina

You're not the only investigative role. We have Tom (Ash), whose chance of finding scum is the same as yours (Or greater, since he knows who is more likely to be killed while you have to guess who will kill). Two investigative roles in one town seems too much, so I think one of them is scum (very probable, at this point, since almost half the remaining players are scum. in onew way or another).
I'd be very careful with the investigative roles. A known investigative role used by scum is very dangerous to the town.

Think about this one too: Why did no one protect the doc nor the herbalist?

The point I'm making is that Tom has to be lucky enough or have enough facts to know who the mafia is killing to find any evidence, while I practically have a guilty if someone is killing (I may have some false innocents, but when you (aka. scum) is gone, that will be a lot easier). The rest of the case of yours is utter crap logic to get the case off of you (Obviously no one could have protected the nurse because the only person who could have protected her is herself, which is illegal, ditto for the herbalist). Even if I am scum (or Tom) we would be fairly useless to the mafia (and maybe even helpful to the town, because we would still help find the SK). I'm deadly confident that you're scum, and you've done little to prove otherwise.

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I guess I'll claim my target since Charles went ahead anyways....

I think I drank too much that night and targeted Bruce (I somehow thought he was a vig?).

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Something is up with the Tracker + Watcher I think.

Might be good actually saying what you think is wrong.......

Top of the page vote count:

Tina has 1 vote (Richard)
Richard has 1 vote (Tina) (Beauty, eh?)
Nobody else is voting.
9 alive, eh, 5 to lynch.

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EBWOP:

Oh, I see...
You think that me and him are scum and had planned this in advance do you?

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Never mind, thought Bruce was dead. I was wondering if the watcher would see someone who was RB'ed.

It would be much easier if we actually correlated real names with the role names.

I find it easier with role names, actually (Just tag your name on your sig if you get mixed up.) I'll do it if it helps you.

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Well I'll ask the mod and see what he says

Mod: What would generally happen if a watcher watched a person who got targeted by a RB'ed tracker?

I have no idea what "generally" happens. This is my first mod of an RB role. The way I see it, if a person tries to target another, but then is interrupted, I see now reason why a tracker or a watcher wouldn't at least see the attempted target. It just makes logic to me.

[malthusis]

Saying 'Oh, those people didn't do an action, they're scum' is fine and all, but don't get too hung up on it right now because are too many people right now (don't forget about looking at past days to help deduce this). I agree that Mary Rose should be used as vig, not a doc (I would not trust a serial maniac to protect me in the night ) that may not be effective. Tina is still dancing around the main question: Why did you block me? I still think she is scum, and I still want to lynch her (and nothing's changed that).

Mod: you realize John's vote counts as 2, so Y is at L-1?

The player whose vote John bought last night has died, eh, and dead people don't vote. The vote count is correct.

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Actually, question. If I silence John, and he coerces my vote, will I have no vote the following day?

Yes. Remember,

Misty, the librarian (played by armlx). She loves silence, that’s why she works at the library. In fact, she knows a special three-point hold that can make a person stop talking for 24 hours. Each night, she will apply her “silence squeeze” to some unsuspecting fool. Her target will be unable to speak,

except to vote,

all day the next day. Only the target will know he’s been silenced, no one else will have a clue.

[malthusis]

This looks like it's the best plan (plus we can get away with lynching Tina scum). At least it will block the kill (scum won't reveal themselves) which may be a major hole with any of these types of plans anyway.

[malthusis]

I did a bad judgement call, I admit it, but I would be much more careful if scum, and not that obvious.

[malthusis]

Also, something to keep in mind for whomever it may be:

The Serial Killer WANTS to hit mafia tonight. If we mislynch, and the SK and mafia kill townies, the SK loses. If we lynch right, even then they are still a dog in the 3-2-1 end game.

Side note: I really wonder why Prof. Guppy didn't make this a day start......

[malthusis]

FOS DDP for wanting to No Lynch.

QFT

Definitely a

FOS DDP

. Why would you want to give anti-town factions 2 free kills? (Even more so, we have an actual suspect to lynch as well).

[malthusis]

I still believe your plan (imaginality's) is comprehensively the best one right now that has Tina getting lynched. We are not idiots not capable of scumhunting, we can always scumhunt if we need to. In fact, if scum does what I think they're going to do, we won't get any results no matter what (they won't kill) and changing our lynch target sorely because of that is a total waste if it's wrong. In fact, according to your plan, if there's a scum kill tonight, it has to be John's right? (This obviously takes into account Tina being to scum so there will be a less chance of faked results.

[malthusis]

Well, I knew that Tina was scum, but I'm sorta surprised she didn't remember about the "no tracking" rule and blocked me and revealed herself unnecessarily.

Alright, who claims first?

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That'd be me: Richard did not stalk Bruce. I'm guessing if you were RB'd I still would have been told who you attempted to target (according to what happened N0).

Ready to vote unless someone sees something I don't.

You're lying through your teeth Tom, and I know it. I did stalk Bruce last night. Not only do I think you're now scum, but I think I have a theory that will solidly prove my point. I'm going to hold off votes of course till all of the claims come in, but there's no way in my mind that you're not scum right now.

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Mod: Could we have a massprod please?

I'm on it

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armlx wrote:

AshMC1984 wrote:
Me again? In the course of my peeping I saw that John did target Bruce.

Just John?

Confirming only John visited Bruce. Richard was a no-show.

Can't we confirm that by Bruce trying to vote and seeing if it counts? If it does, he's obviously lying. (Note to Tom scum: Why did you so obviously reveal yourself? and even better, why didn't you kill me?)

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Richard, I take it from your lack of objection that Bruce did in fact target me last night.

Yes, he did.

[malthusis]

Vote: Tom

[malthusis]

WOW!

Scum are really really really stupid this game (Unless they're trying a blame me strategy, which won't work).

Bruce targeted Misty!

[malthusis]

Reasons why Richard and Bruce could be scum together: mainly that, it seemed to me, Tom gave up very quickly yesterday. It makes me wonder if scum have something planned. Since their night actions are inter-related, if all three are scum I could see them thinking it's worth sacrificing one, even two of them to confirm the third.

(This also, to me, suggests Richard is a touch more likely than Bruce to be scum because it was him vs Tom yesterday so if Tom was only trying to get one of them confirmed as town it's more likely to be him.)

I can see where you are coming from, but this sort of case is total WIFOM and can't totally be relied on. From your perspective, anyway (I definitely know Bruce is scum) you need more proof then that to get either of us.

Richard, you claimed you had a theory on D2 explaining things, you never revealed that theory. What was it?

I don't remember it totally, but all it was was extra reasoning to help back up the case against Tom if you guys sided with him.

Also @DDP: You should try looking at D1 with the consideration that Tom and either of us is scum.

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Mod: I think we need a massprod.

[malthusis]

Why hasn't Richard voted for Bruce today?

Oops, I was waiting for everyone else to claim first. I will

Vote:Bruce

right now.

I'm disappointed by Richard/Bruce/Mary Rose being as silent as they have, makes it hard to find the truth amongst nothingness.

What am I really supposed to say? Other then my word against Bruce's, I can't really bring anything else (that I can only have) that implicates him any more. I'm going to reread, but it looks like it's going to be finding a needle in a haystack to find anymore.
(That's an advantage of Tom folding so fast: he didn't say much to implicate anyone).

[malthusis]

The mafia are probably Bruce (for sure) and Mary Rose. You guys better get goddamn lucky and block this kill if you want to pull this game out of the hat.

Good luck town, you're going to need it.