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I asked for the clarification, so I can clarify the clarification. My set has 1 being the most powerful number. When two pieces face off, the higher number loses.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Heheh. This should be good.Sajin wrote:Cool! I outed scum before the game was fully confirmed.
No one else should talk about this until charter responds. Thanks.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Well, Sajin seems pretty dang convinced. Let's test this theory.Sajin wrote:Cool! I outed scum before the game was fully confirmed.
No one else should talk about this until charter responds. Thanks.
Vote: Gorrad
Now, Sajin, explain to me why my vote is justified.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Sajin, allow me a chance to counter your argument before you give it, saving us three days.
I was given a number and a rank. The number assigned to the rank was different here than the number assigned to said rank in my game. Yes, I have them memorized, that's how often I've played. I asked for clarification to make sure that it was the numbers that were different and not the ranks.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Yeah, Hoopla, and I'd be a bloody IDIOT if I claimed Spy, Bomb, or Flag.
And Sajin, I have no intention of claiming today, as I have yet to see why my vote is justified. But, in case it helps, my breadcrumb for my role is Sept. 12th.
Oh, and I think that while you're full of it, you're probably town. Just...you know, town that doesn't know what they're talking about.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I breadcrumbed because I enjoy the mental stimulation of doing so, and I pointed it out because I saw no reason not to. The odds of finding what it means are ridiculously small.
Bomb: Is going to kill things. That's the piece's sole purpose. It would be stupid to claim a killing role of any alignment. Especially considering that, given the game, I'd bet on it being some sort of PGO role. Even as a Vig, which would make NO sense given the Bomb's immobile nature, claiming would be iffy at best.
Flag: Is going to be an important role, as it's the piece needed to win the game. Stratego is centered around the Flag, and more importantly is centered around keeping it defended and hidden. In a game of Stratego, the flag is the LAST thing you'd ever want to reveal. Therefore, in this game, it would be a stupid role to claim.
Spy: The Spy is a unique piece in that it kills the 1. Therefore, should both the 1 and the Spy be in the same game, they are undoubtedly of differing alignments. If I was a mafia Spy and claimed town Spy, a town 1 could claim and have me lynched. If I was a town Spy and claimed as such, the mafia 1 would NK me quick as possible. Therefore, it would be stupid to claim Spy.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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As WLC wishes,Unvote.
Electricbadger, I've breadcrumbed as a variety of roles before. You would be correct if this was not a mini-theme. In a normal game, one would only breadcrumb as a PR, as all the vanillas have the same flavor. However, in theme games vanillas usually have a variety of different flavors. Therefore, breadcrumbing flavor is not a PR-only thing to do.
Kast, consider. If I had any of those roles, they would be stupid to claim. Therefore, had I one of those roles, I would likely fakeclaim. Therefore this entire deal, starting with the question to the mod, could easily be an elaborate ruse to make people believe I was a numbered role.
Also, I have done naught but speculate so far. My role has given me no information on how pieces kill other pieces.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm torn between EB's play being bad town or scummy. Leaning towards the latter.
Kise, what is your opinion on AllmasterGM?
And Sajin, I see where you're coming from. To clarify, my role claims NOTHING about face-offs or different ranks. I've played a LOT of stratego, and the number was simply different than in my set for said rank. That's why I asked. Is this unbelievable you? I could take a pic of my set to show you if you'd like.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Dramonic, if you were really town you would know that the roles specifically do NOT say that you are the only one of your piece.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Almaster's a solid lynch. I still don't like Dramonic though. Or EB, for that matter.
Actually, come to think of it,Vote: Dramonic. I did NOT like that rolefishing earlier.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Sajin's probably town. He's fighting the wrong battle, but I don't think scum would go out of there way to push a random like this. 254 worries me, as it seems like he's actively trying to stick to town meta, but it's not enough to warrant a lynch.
Sajin, i have NOT been rolefishing. I have been speculating. I challenge you to find one post this game where I have asked someone for role-related information. You've also misrepresented me, pulling four posts and saying they all followed a pattern.
Dramonic was strung up to L-1 then claimed vanilla. He was then let go because of a vanilla claim. Can anyone explain to me how that makes him ANY less scummy?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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The potential gain was to prove that claiming a numbered piece was not a stupid thing to do by showing reasons why each of the non-numbered would not want to claim. It was defense against allegations you put on me.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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As I said, Sajin, I think you're town. I think people are dead wrong in voting you. You're being kinda crazy-paranoid and seem to have a bit of an ego this game, but I'm not getting scum vibes from you.
Ortolan, what I'm seeing is that people unvoted him based solely on a vanilla claim. I find him no less scummy than I did when I voted for him. Either 1) He's town and scum unvoted him to try and lynch a power role instead 2) He's scum and his buddies are trying to shift as much attention from him as possible, I believe by throwing Sajin under the bus or 3) Town's just ADD. Personally, I think 2's the most likely.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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1) Dramonic-scum was strung up to L-1.AlmasterGM wrote:
If number 2 is true, why would they vote and then unvote? Doesn't that draw more attention than just not voting at all in the first place?Gorrad wrote:Ortolan, what I'm seeing is that people unvoted him based solely on a vanilla claim. I find him no less scummy than I did when I voted for him. Either 1) He's town and scum unvoted him to try and lynch a power role instead 2) He's scum and his buddies are trying to shift as much attention from him as possible, I believe by throwing Sajin under the bus or 3) Town's just ADD. Personally, I think 2's the most likely.
2) His buddies that may have been bussing him by being on the wagon as well as his buddies not on the wagon attempted to stop him from being lynched by shifting attention over to other wagons.
Simple logic, neh?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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It is not a coincidence that half the people on the Sajin wagon are scummy. Can we get another vote on Dramonic please?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Synx, you are lying scum. Miners, as a rule, work on bombs. ONLY bombs. Now tell me, you say your role effects multiple antitown factions? I say that's a load of bull. There were two kills last night, and one was SHOT. I daresay bombs would not shoot. The shooting could, of course be a vig. But I'm rather against that idea.
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Honestly, Synx's claim looks like scum botching a safeclaim. I would be FAR from surprised if Synx was the bomb whose role PM mentions that he can be "diffused". In fact, I'm rather sure he is.
As for the spelling issue, honestly? The mod is fallible. Heck, in Case Closed Mafia, I misspelled the /name/ of one of the characters. That person got called out for it too. Synx is scum, I have no doubt at all, but not because of the spelling.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Synx, now this is interesting. I said that the miner's role should only work on Bombs, I said NOTHING about it working on scum. Are you saying that the mafia are all bombs?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Explain.dramonic wrote:If I could put an extra vote on you Almaster I would.
Odds are you are scum, especially if you share one of the dead's rank.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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And what makes you think that he did NOT duplicate roles in a completely arbitrary manner?dramonic wrote:Almaster says he has one of the roles that are dead. Most likely the flag was removed (since in the real game it's instant-win). Unless Charter duplicated roles in a completely arbitrary manner, the only role I can see well being duplicated is the spy. Two trackers on the town team would be pretty unlikely, wouldn't you say?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Alive D1 people on final BW:Hoopla, Vaya, AlmasterGM, ortolan
Alive D2 people on final BW: Gorrad,Vaya, AlmasterGM, Hoopla, ElectricBadger
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Let's see here....In any case, I think the odds are in favor of it being three mafia. Ergo the bomb is almost definitely the vig that asploded DDD and Dramonic.
What does the town think about a massclaim? We've got one, maybe two people left to out, so the advantage is with us. Considering Synx's claim, I'm guessing scum were not given fakeclaims.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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No. Why do you ask? So you can know what number you shouldn't claim?Hoopla wrote:Gorrad, rather than being cryptic, can you tell us why claiming is a good idea?Confirm Vote: Hoopla.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Unvote, Vote: ElectricBadger
3. I'm a Miner.
I got a similar role to Synx, but with a few key differences. I did not, until Synx said, know what my role does. I also know it only works on bombs. This is how I was so sure that Synx was lying. The reason I didn't vote as soon as Synx claimed is because of a similarity. I also am not alerted if my role works or not.Gorrad wrote:Let's see here....In any case, I think the odds are in favor of it being three mafia.Ergo the bomb is almost definitely the vig that asploded DDD and Dramonic.
So hey! My gambit seems to have worked. EB, you are charged with being a bomb SK. Claim or die.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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September 12th was the debut of the TV Movie "Lightning Strikes". One of the characters in it is my friend Jarrett Crippen, better known as The Defuser. I, being a miner, am a defuser as well.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Almaster and Vaya, respectively.
EB, you have lost. Our roles contradict, so it's either you or me. Even if there's a second killing faction left alive (a possibility I doubt due to game balance), then if I'm lynched tomorrow will be 1-1-1 and you will die. So give it up. You just lost the game.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Look, there's a town miner and a scum miner. Therefore, the bomb is SK. Hoops may be a third scum, but EB's undoubtedly the SK.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Hoopla, a bomb is anti-town because I'm town and have a role that's anti-bomb.
Almaster, see above. There's obviously an anti-town bomb because of my role. If Hoopla is NOT a bomb, then there's a fourth anti-town role which is a bomb.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Hoopla, what in the nine rings makes you think the bomb is a PGO? Seriously. Don't assume speculation to be undeniable truth.
Almaster, I'm down with that plan.
EB, if I had pursued another target, then I would have left Ortolan and the rest of y'all wondering why the heck I asked for the claim. Also, you could have been Flag.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I totally suspected you.AlmasterGM wrote:Why would I have claimed cop if I was scum? Nobody suspected me at all before. There's zero reason for me to invent that claim.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Ortolan, while we're trying to make the game 100% winnable for town, your cooperation in telling us what abilities you have left would be fantastic.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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EB, if you ARE a PGO, then it's in the town's best interest to not have you asplode on one of them (especially with as many claimed PRs as we have now). I'm going to target you tonight because of that AND the fact that I /STILL/ don't know what my role does.
If we're lucky, you're scum and it kills you.
I still think you're scum, EB. If my role has a /chance/ of doing something bad to you (which, consider the flavor, it will), then I will do it. And if you're town and scum take advantage of this breach to NK you? It only confirms me.
Either way, good for the town.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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There are six alive. With Hoopla NOT lynched tonight, there are three D4. If there's another mafia and Hoopla is an SK, we auto-lose. With Hoopla lynched tonight, there are four D4 and we're in LYLO.
LYLO or auto-lose if there are two anti-town. Those are our choices. Personally, I'm going for the former.
Also, for those saying Hoopla claiming the Mafia kill makes her impossible to be Mafia? Who's saying she's telling the truth? Those kills were almost definitely made by an SK, one who would have to counter-claim to call Hoopla's bluff. I say she's the mafia and EB's the SK.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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If I was not, then why would I be voting for her?Vaya wrote:Also Gorrad, are you saying that you are in favor of a Hoopla lynch?
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1) Right. If the SK counterclaimed, then they would be lynched as soon as you flipped mafia.
2) True. Kinda stupid of you.
3) Godfathers, in my experience, often have some sort of NK protection.
IF. If you are SK, then that means that EB is town. In that case, the reason for a town and scum miner is because there are two bombs (one town and one scum) and the scum bomb is fakeclaiming.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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As far as EB goes, if I'm given a town power role that does something unknown to a specific person, then I FIND that person, I'm going to use it on said person. If it was anti-town, then I wouldn't have the power role.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I wonder. Throwing this out there, what if the setup is 2-1-1-8, with flavor-based limitations on the ability to kill.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Don't be hasty, EB. There will be plenty of time for NL later. It's obviously the right play, but as long as all four of us are here we may as well talk.
Almaster, did you get a PM stating your failure or did you receive no PMs last night?
Vaya, do you have anything to say about Almaster's result?
EB is, in my book, confirmed town now. My targeting him neither stopped the kill nor did it kill him. I wasn't RB'd, for if I was then Almaster wouldn't have been. There's no mass-RBer, for a kill went through. Therefore, I'm forced to assume either the effect was a positive one or he's telling the truth and all it did was remove the PGO effect.
Almaster, on the other hand, I just realized is claiming to have been RB'd. By a SK. Does anyone else take issue with this?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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You know, we had a scum 7 and a scum 3. We also have a town 7 and a town 3. A town 5 has died, and we have a claimed 5 amongst us with a DIFFERENT ROLE than the dead town 5.
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If we NL, the kill will either be me or EB, no question. And the choice will /still/ be between you and Vaya. Considering how sure I am that you're scum, I'd vote while I still have a say.
PS: I love how you know you won't be NK'd.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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You just said yourself that you're unlikely to be NK'd, and Vaya was a lynch candidate for a majority of D2. Any half-decent scum would choose me or EB. Likely EB, as killing me would confirm him.
The PS last post was reaction fishing only.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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In fact, the only way for EB to be scum is if I'm lying about my night choice or was RB'd. I stated above why I couldn't have been RB'd. Therefore, EB's confirmed.
Does anyone take issue with this? If we go to night, the confirmed guy's gonna die, and I'd rather he participate.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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