Mini 844 - P-p-plain! - Over

[Raivann]

/confirm

[Raivann]

Vote:Keelie

for wagon's sake

[Raivann]

Good job on getting the game started Kmd.It seems like you say you want a wagon on Keelie then depending on whatever the response to the wagon you already had a trap setup.If people jump on they're scummy or if they vote someone else they're scummy, looks like reaching and a possible scum maneuver.

[Raivann]

Nothing to say about why you voted Keelie?

Because I think wagons are a good thing.

unvote, Vote Kmd

kinda like your wagon too, I think I'll hop on.

On a side note I'm getting townie vibes off AlmasterGM.

[Raivann]

Or why you didn't comment on Rosso's statement about Plum?

Rosso is right, Plum is scum.

[Raivann]

Pom, you could shorten it.

Alm, what does Plum have to do with Pom not voting Keelie?

Why are you trying to not talk about Plum?
Why is Plum not in your big post where you present your case on everyone?
I'm starting to notice a slight conncetion between Kmd & Plum

Raiv, why are wagons good? (I'm not disagreeing. I just want to know your opinion.) I'll have more to say after you answer this.

voting patterns, reaction to pressure, and the such.

I had time for a quick post. Like right now. Will hopefully answer questions by later tomorrow afternoon.

Do you need time to make up scum answers?

Kmd's summary of my points against him is pretty decent summary here.

Kmd, I've said it once and I'll say it again: lovely if you get reads for scumteams by Page 3, but generall unhelpful to the town at this point. Leave it for a more pertinent time and I'll be all ears.

Plums whole post seems scummy to me, This part reads like scum talkin to each other. I don't have any evidence or anything , just a hunch.

[Raivann]

Maybe you just had some bad Taco Bell or something and thats why your gut is twinging Plum?

I had my reason for voting Kmd it was here...

Good job on getting the game started Kmd.It seems like you say you want a wagon on Keelie then depending on whatever the response to the wagon you already had a trap setup.If people jump on they're scummy or if they vote someone else they're scummy, looks like reaching and a possible scum maneuver.

Here's the real scumteam- Kmd, Plum, Scope.

[Raivann]

[quote="Kmd4390"]So I'm scum because I apparently set a trap to call everyone scum? Tell me where I called the following people scum:
CoCo
Rosso Carne
KaleiÃ

[Raivann]

I'm pretty sure that Alm is town, so therefor CoCo must be scum.

Unfortunately, I don't think lew is scum, so I don't think this is an issue.

I agree Lew is prob town too

[Raivann]

Pomegranate is the biggest threat in the game? And Lew? And you? No offense to any of you guys, but if I were scum, I'd be more worried about someone like Plum, who knows how I play and can probably read me better than anyone else here. To say that my suspects are "threats" is terrible reasoning.

It was supposed to be funny.

[Raivann]

I'm pretty sure that Alm is town, so therefor CoCo must be scum.

Elaborate. Also, what happened to the Kmd/Plum/Scope team?

I agree Lew is prob town too

Why?

It was supposed to be funny.

*headscratch*

ok then..

I'm just putting my 2 cents in on Almaster and Lew. My read could very well be wrong. Notice I didn't vote you CoCo.
I'm more suspicious of the players who go hard after the players who make little textbook mistakes in the RVS.Like the player who unvoted or didn't vote or did whatever. Kinda like how lew was getting attacked.

[Raivann]

Oh, I forgot in my previous post: Raivann just keeps getting scummier... he doesn't explain himself. How did you come to the conclusion that the scumteam is Kmd, Plum, and Kscope? Why is Alm town? Why is CoCo scum? What happened to your previous scum view? Why did it change? Did something specific invalidate it, or did you just have a change of mind? If you just changed your mind, then why?

Lotsa Whys.

I'm suspicious of Scope & CoCo because of their votes on Alm when I have a town read on him.

I change my mind and vote alot day 1 and try to get reaads on multiple people. I usually get lynched for it.

[Raivann]

Raivann, what do you think of KaleiDoscope's vote?

Here's the real scumteam- Kmd, Plum,

Scope

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[Raivann]

Oh, I forgot in my previous post: Raivann just keeps getting scummier... he doesn't explain himself. How did you come to the conclusion that the scumteam is Kmd, Plum, and Kscope? Why is Alm town? Why is CoCo scum? What happened to your previous scum view? Why did it change? Did something specific invalidate it, or did you just have a change of mind? If you just changed your mind, then why?

Lotsa Whys.

I think it's alot scummier to sit back and lurk and try to blend in than it is to post your suspicions and ruffle feathers.

[Raivann]

VOTE:PLUM

Plum is scum.

[Raivann]

So I was right about Alm, lew, and Kmd and for that I get a vote Scope?

[Raivann]

VOTE:PLUM

Plum is scum.

for serious serious?

or just for serious?

Just for serious.

[Raivann]

So I was right about Alm, lew, and Kmd and for that I get a vote Scope?

I cant speak for my hammah bro, but is there any semblance for why plum is scum. like, i mean, 100% role based semblance?

No, just my professional opinion.

[Raivann]

@Rosso- Did you get your re-read done? Who do you wanna lynch today?

[Raivann]

[quote="KaleiÃ

[Raivann]

Lynches I support - Plum, Scope, CoCo.

[Raivann]

Question: why didn't you vote at that point? It seems that possibly you waited until a wagon started to form on Kmd before you were willing to act on your suspicions, instead keeping your RVS vote where it was. Expound please?

There were no votes for Kmd between my 2 posts that you're talking about. So no, I wasn't waiting for wagon to form.

[Raivann]

1) scum team kill, vig kill (from xo), some other party kill (

another baddie party

, another vig, lord knows)

There would have to be another baddie if there was only 2 on scumteam.
Maybe there is 1 more scum out there and a Sk and Vig.
Here's what I'm thinking...
Scum= Plum
SK= Scope
Vig= xo

Why Alm xo? He was first to call out Kmd on his scummyness.

[Raivann]

[quote="Plum"][quote="KaleiÃ

[Raivann]

Raivann, what about Konowa?

Not sure about Konowa.
I got a neutral read on him and I do not support a Konowa lynch at this time.

[Raivann]

I don't know Raivann. You feel Alm is town, and then say I must be scum based on that read.

You ignored Scope's post. You only felt to comment on your Alm read after I'd voted.

You have not disputed my reasoning either.

I didn't ignore Scopes post yet you kept saying I did.

I too find Scope suspicious for that quote.

Who is "that other kid"?

And don't make it a joke. Pro-town players make no mistake about who they suspect.

FOS: KaleiÃ

[Raivann]

Thats because I tried quoting you then i went to quote you again and it wouldn't let me see your posts in Iso , so I had to cut and paste and cut and paste. I didn't really care where they ended up.

[Raivann]

It's not much, mainly for your post where vote Alm.
Notice I'm not voting you.
Scope will probably strangle or shoot me tonight anyways

[Raivann]

@Rai and Konowa: I was getting the impression that he was actively lurking. Like he'd appear long enough to say something so he wouldn't get prodded, say a few sorta relevant things, but then disappear again. I dunno... i just got a semi bad vibe, so that's where i put my kill. I was thinking that i'd give Rai a chance to either redeem himself or dig himself deeper. Of the two, i prefer active players to ones who aren't. Even if they're semi-scummy in my mind. Does that make sense?

Not really.
Alm totally nailed Kmd the first 4 or 5 pages, Kmd flips scum, then you kill Alm.
Wut?

[Raivann]

Excellent.

unvote, Vote:xofelf

[Raivann]

VOTE: KaleiÃ

[Raivann]

GG town, nice vig on Pom Rosso.
Oh and Plum is NOT scum.