Open 186; Jungle Republic (Game Over)

[Budja]

If I'm not voting and I am not not voting, then who am I voting for .

vote: CKD

[Budja]

unvote, vote Saber

Play to win or GTFO. That post has "policy lynch me" written all over it.

FoS hewitt

for over-reaction

Nice try Lynx but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't mind lynching me after my horrible play back then.

[Budja]

Sorry, threats like that don't and shouldn't work.

Play to win or GTFO.

[Budja]

That game is nothing to be proud of.

If that is the kind of play you will be using, my vote is well placed.

[Budja]

I have every intention of playing this game

Good

I'm not gonna gambit this game, so you guys are wasting your time.

Good

I'd love it if you guys lynched me day 1

Bad

If you drop that attitude/mindset, I'll be happy.
Otherwise, replace out (the right thing to do, bet or no) or be lynched.

Why are you acting like you're going to be lynched already? It's only page two. My vote is not intended to support a policy lynch of any kind.

Then whats the vote for?

[Budja]

@Lynx, It wouldn't. I still believe you are joining a "policy-wagon" so to say.

@Saber, swap "primary" and "secondary".

[Budja]

Who said it was wrong? I like the "policy wagon" right now.

[Budja]

unvote

I would really like to see Saber replaced (or get his priorities straight).

• Overall, have fun & play to win!

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vote:bigmc109

I endorse this wagon.

Its one thing putting pressure on Saber, its another putting him on L-1 (especially with his attitude).
Basically, I agree with CKD.

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CKD, Lynx, Scott are looking town.

[Budja]

@Lynx,
if you read two more sentances on that post you should see why.
But... I was wrong, I just assumed CKD was right and barely looked at the vote count .
Still since he is the latest vote on Saber and since the lying thing seems plausible, I see no reason to change.
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Of the later pushes on Saber, bigmc and ML's are the only one that look possibly opportunistic.
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Another note. This is not Saber's "generic playstyle". From the game I played with him (and marathon), he came off as a good player. The problem I have is that he is not really invested in this game.
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@Scott,
Lynching lurkers is ok but its a bit early for that. Threatening to lynch lurkers is better but a lurker lynch < a lynch of someone I think is scummy.

[Budja]

Awesome, you can consider me appeased.

[Budja]

^ Good posting.

@Scott, who's your #1 scummiest then?

[Budja]

Saber, could you tell me what this bet actually is?
(sorry guys, I know its distracting us and I won't mention it again.)

[Budja]

I'm still a bit torn with Saber. I agree with Ginz ^. He may be trying but he is probably apathetic to his lynch regardless of alignment.
The good thing about this setup is that there is probably scum on his wagon no matter what his alignment is. I'd rather pick off one of the more opportunistic voters today.

@Lynx, yeah your right, I voted for BigMC because I liked CKD's case. I'm not having a great time picking scum out.

Saber's defense concerning his flipping town doesn't excuse his behavior. Just because you've flipped town in other games does not even remotely influence the outcome of this game. They're not related and really have no place in this.

The don johnson defense again .
It is awful logic but pretty null as a scumtell IMO

FoS: hewitt

, that turnaround was a bit dodgy.

BigMC, hewitt, MR are good lynches.
Then Saber, then everyone else.

[Budja]

@Scott, was this during the "bet" or after?

@hewitt, appealing to saberwolf probably isn't your best bet .

[Budja]

BigMC,
vote on Saber looks opportunistic.
I disliked BMC's "missing" of MR votes.

Although, BMC's recent activity I like and MR has taken a nose-dive since my last read so...

unvote, vote MR

(Wagon switch )
I like the recent points raised against him. The thing that stands out to me is the weak reasons for attacking Saber (anti-town not scummy) which make me thing MR's vote was opportunistic.

[Budja]

Yeah, after that last post, I don't think a Saber lynch would be bad.

The good thing about this setup is regardless of Saber alignment, there are bound to be opportunistic wolf/scum on his wagon.

So yeah, MR or Saber.

[Budja]

@Lynx, I did answer you. Then I changed my vote.

This post seems really weak. There are going to be wolves and mafia on every wagon, they make up almost half the game. And you are apathetic who we vote as long as it's one of the leading wagons?

No, I think BMC, MR, if scum, are a different faction to Saber because there vote were the most opportunistic. I am a bit apathetic as to which we lynch, which you probably gleaned from my post.

Also, I am willing to hammer Saber.
Either convince me not to or I will do so in my next post.

[Budja]

I don't like BigMc's response to MR's replacement.

Agreed

@hewitt, I only disliked the BMC, MR's more opportunistic attacks of Saber.

But go ahead, flip-flop one more time, whatever.

Certainly.
I have heard nothing to convince me otherwise.

unvote, vote Saber

[Budja]

@San.

Can you explain your vote against SW in post 32? Due to the following statement, I can’t tell if it’s a vote for a policy lynch or if it’s a vote because you saw it as a scummy comment: “Play to win or GTFO. That post has "policy lynch me" written all over it. “

A policy pressure vote.

I really don’t like post 51. Dissecting sentences to misrep a certain players thoughts is very scummy.

I didn't misrep him. He said he would try, but he kept the "but I don't really care anyway" attitude.

[...] correct as he now states players who he saw had opportunistic votes on SW, yet never pointed them out before this. And post 217 once again shows that he likes to go with the flow.

I pointed them out after they happened. I can't point them out before they happened can I.

Another thing with Budja, to vote a player for putting a specific player you wanted to have policy lynched at L-1, something like that needs an explanation. Especially after seeing post 179, this needs an explanation.

It was actually intended as a hammer.

Budja, what was the difference between BMC’s reasons for voting SW and the reasons MR gave?

Very little but BMC reacted worse.

Why did you leave the policy lynch you wanted so much?

Saber said he would change. Thats all I wanted.

And why do you see Lynx as town?

Well, I do have a strong "gut" town read and I haven't seen anything too objectional in his posting yet.