Not reading your role PM

Battousai · Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:36 pm

nhammen wrote:Against the spirit of the game.

Agreed.

Battousai · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:10 am

Yosarian2 wrote:
Sopianae wrote:The "spirit of the game" argument holds no water. Strategically, it's far better not to read your role PM. We're not talking about ethics, morals, or whatever, we're talking about strategy. All's fair in love and mafia.
That's wrong on both counts. It's clearly much better for you to read your role PM, unless you're quite bad as a scum player, and even if you are then it's still better in the 75% of the time you're a town player. If you're half decent as a scum player, then you're still much better off knowing that you are scum and knowing who your scum partners are then you would be not knowing.

As for the second thing, the entire point of mafia is that you are going to try to read how people are acting and try to figure out their motivations and their own win condition from that. If people don't even know their own win condition, then it makes day 1 a massive waste of time.

So it's both bad strategically, and also allowing that is very bad for the game of mafia itself.

That's what I said...

Battousai wrote:
nhammen wrote:Against the spirit of the game.
Agreed.

Stop showing off your vernacular skills please.

Battousai · Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:20 am

Only if more mods would require confirm via return PM and role confirmation...

Battousai · Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:38 pm

The problem would be that there would be no information to be drawn from D1. The game might as well started with night and given scum an extra night kill.

Battousai · Post Post #72 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:34 am

And here's another game where the player claims to not have read their role pm

page 42

I tried to get them lynched for it, but I didn't get enough support.

Battousai · Post Post #135 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:46 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:For that matter, I don't think lying and claiming you haven't read your role PM is against the spirit of the game, only actually not reading your role PM.

If someone claims to not have read their role pm, then

1) They are telling the truth and all reads on the player up to the point they confess reading their role pm is null

OR

2) They are lying and does not have a town win condition

OR

3) They are lying and are a VI

In all 3 scenarios, the town is better off lynching the player.