Mini 880 - Mini Quick and Dirty - Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hi. I'll be L/A for the next week or so, posting only sporadically. It's up to BigBear to choose whether he wants me to replace or not.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Starting reverse read from page 19.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Killin SerialClergykun ain't cool. I wanted to play at least a game with that guy, but the scum got to im already last night. How scary of 'em. Outrageously scary. Bye, bye, SC!

Now this here post singles my most likey likey scumbags.

For one, we got this cool scummer named AGar.

Posts all fluff in the first 6 pages in the game and then gits angsty over eKim fluffin his way in a likey fashion. Omgusy on top of that, but lil hypocrisy never killed neone so I just keep that in my mind fer later.

So I'm payin extra extra attention to him in my read you see. But the rest of his play can be described as a wild mess that fails to meet my standards of pro-town play.

Post 308 looks like more of what others have pointed out at nub card pointin, scummy playstyle coverin and little actual helpin.

452 is nice, AGar inventin words like "undercomprehension" to describe his allegedly weaksauce readin ability, but he accuses Zorblag and ODD(in) which is a fresh departure from his ekim tunnelin strategy to this point.

3. There should probably be way more pressure on me since I have not really contributed as much as I would personally have liked to in this game. It actually pisses me off that no one has come after me for anything yet, because I gain reads that way.

Conscience gettin guilty I see. Yeeea not trustin you much.

Vote AGar

On to my second suspect ODD(in). He's marginally more amusing than AGar, but that's like saying water-boardin' is slightly better than face-stabbin'. Odd's desire to cram as many numbered paragraphs as possible into his post hides an embarrassingly shallow and formulaic townie pretendin.

Spouting goody-two-shoes theory = sounding town without doing anything that is pro-town or anti-scum = scummy.

Oh looky here, someone agrees. Too bad he's dead now, ain't it?

Now his votes, and subsequently, his suspects, are what seems to me shrouded in a mysterious, muddy, chaotic and unconvincing thought evolution that makes me more suspicious of him than the victims of his accusations.

His introspective thoughts on OMGUS are underwhelmin to say the least of it. AGar might have said much of the same, but I don't understand much of what AGar says in general.

FOS: ODD

Now let's get some trollin action.

Zorblag is scary as usual, gettin his Sando lynched just as he wanted.

A hell of a lot of his attention is given to SerialClergygun. In fact, almost his entire posting record pertains or is addressed to Sando or Serial. Check his postin in iso. Both dead now. So scary.

Now I ain't implyin a connection yet, but I'm followin you closely.

IGMEOY Zorblag

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[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes, I am slightly inebriated, but my post is likey comprehensive enough for ya to read.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I mean cohesive. Pardon the sloppy writtin

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I'm trying to figure out Mr. Rampage. Suspicious of Amished slot, and I have a hard time reading ABR.
I notice his 3 suspects are all from the 4 current vote getters.
AGar stuff I see where he's coming from, in fact I've thought along the same lines at times. Relatable, although I don't like it as much when the thoughts are too similar (points to easyish).
ODDin FoS is either gut or a bunch of unclarity with a nod to nk speculation.

In fact, almost his entire posting record pertains or is addressed to Sando or Serial. Check his postin in iso. Both dead now. So scary.

This is inaccurate on a skim.

ABR, what do you think about Papa Zito? VP Baltar?

No, it's pretty accurate. In iso, post 18, post 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 and 9 all mention Sando / Serial in some way. You can't deny he had a special focus on them.

I have a town read on both of them. I don't fully understand why Zito is suspicious and Baltar hasn't done anything scummy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Since one was the main wagon and the other active and discussed quite a lot by the town as a whole this seems a bit of a red herring, many of those listed Zorblag posts talked about several things and people besides the Aussie corpses.

It's possible that I overestimate Zorblag and am just paranoid around him sometimes.

The wagons I can get behind right now are AGar and ODDin.

[Albert B. Rampage]

In recent developments, I'm suddenly less inclined to vote for Odd.

crypto's FOS really seems misplaced. I don't agree with it.

539 is good posting. I don't like 537 before that, because I think AGar still deserves to be lynched.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have the feeling that a lot of players are starting new lines of discussion and suspicion when we're at only a day from deadline. I need a TL;DR version case on crypto from ODDin and case on VP from scien with the main reasons highlighted. Save me -and the town- the work of bridging the reasons you vote for crypto with the reasons we should vote for crypto. I am not about to make a gut decision at this juncture but if you're going to put up a new case I want to know that 1) your reasons make sense and 2) you are believable and not trying to get a deadline no-lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I mean crypto / VP. No favoritism going on here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR has made one big posted and coasted.

I don't have much to say. Do you want me to make a big post saying little like Zorblag? I haven't read Scien / VP Baltar's cases yet.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey I moved down your list, that's not fair.

I'll try to be more pro-town after we lynch AG-scum lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm really ready for a hammer, I'll make use of the night to go over the cases against crypto and baltar.

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If there is no majority at deadline, there will be no lynch.

Hammer now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Scien

Explanations to come.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote

Okay, who claims first?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yes Scien, scum win in a 3 vs 3 situation because the town can't lynch the scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Crazy talk ^^^

[Albert B. Rampage]

Depends on the rules.

Mod: Who wins if town no-lynches and mafia doesn't NK?

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's true but in a LYLO situation, everybody's word is questionable.

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Naw you're not a suspect to me Zorblag. I vote for Scien to claim first.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't think any of Scien's arguments matter if we don't lynch scum today, and we need all the info we can, including role claims, to lynch correctly today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Zorblag is a very...dangerous individual. But if he's town, I would think he has a good idea of who's scum right now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's not what I meant.

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I'm a monster. I go out at night into little kids houses and pretend I'm Zorblag. lol I'm a white vanilla. Scien claimed already, Ojanen V/L/A, so...charlatan next.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh wait! Zorblag hasn't claimed yet. Zorblag next.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well that was obv simul-post. O.K. Zito first, then Zorblag.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Zorblag it is then.

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Zorblag, out of curiosity, who would you have chosen first if you were the first to claim?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can we just wait to see if Ojanen has any new info before voting? I've already stated how I felt about claiming power roles, especially with guilties, in LYLO. Not to be believed....I had a town read on charlatan because of his large contributions to the game, but I have to re-think that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not super sure of Zito's reaction either. More in-depth stuff later.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well why didn't you claim straight away before we even started mass claiming? You waited and waited until everyone claimed before you did. That right there is not very pro-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

For now Troll's take on the developments be that we should finish the mass claim before we discuss what has happened or start voting.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Ojanen is V/L/A, traveling and performing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

She also plays in another game with me, where she posted about it. I think it was still Night while she had to go so she never had the chance to post that here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

O.K. guys I have this last bit of finals to go through, won't have much time to read this game in detail.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pretty sure Sando claimed VT. That's off memory though.

Charlatan's argument for 'town would go back to display how he's scum' is a bit null, imo. Townie's get lazy too. (not that I think PZ is town). High word count DNE being town.

I think the strongest argument for the PZ lynch today is the mountainous balance issue. Mountainous is a VERY difficult setup for town to win (I've lost and seen lots of other towns lose on mountainous), and having 3/12 scum is about as near to impossible for town to win as can be.

Therefore, if this is actually a mountainous setup, we're almost certainly not in lylo.

I'm pretty much ready to lynch PZ at this point.

So what you're saying is that either we have power roles, so charlatan's claim is believable, or it's a mountainous game, in which case we aren't in lylo yet. This looks like sound logic to me. 9/3 without PRs favors scum too much, this much is true.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yep.

Vote Papa Zito

1) Defending himself with the mountainous argument with the knowledge of items in the game doesn't exactly make sense.

2) What VP Baltar said. The setup will do the work of the scum for us.

3) Tracker claim isn't so suspicious on second thought. If charlatan did lie though, he's next.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm voting. I think it's a good lynch. Everyone's claimed, what needed to be said has been said. Could be scum gambitting, we'll never know if we don't lynch.

Say Papa Zito is scum, and there are power roles in this setup. A 3 man team would definitely be balanced, so we mislynch and the game's over. Between a choice of charlatan and Zito, we have no choice but to lynch charlatan.

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Oh, I mean Zito. I was thinking of the mountainous setup.

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I never said I had a case. His interactions with AGar were simply off to me, making it look like scum plotting. I don't really have anything more specific than that. And now that PZ has been declared to be at ODDin's last night, I think that's the vote for today.

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@ABR-If PZ flips scum, who do you think his buddies are?

Will depend on the NK. I can't make any serious accusations yet.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dearest PZ scum buddies,

At this point it is quite obvious you are late to the party. However, not all is lost! You've stalled and kicked the dirt around for some time now, but it is apparent that your tactics have failed and the time has come for you to bus. To this end, we have left a nice warm seat for you on the tail of this wagon that would allow you to receive at least SOME town credit that you could desperately cling to in a subsequent day as you are about to be lynched. If you act now, I promise you will be the last one lynched and you will at least be able to say, "well...I was the last one lynched."

Yours most sincerely,

VPB

[Albert B. Rampage]

I saw all these good players in the game, and I was like wow, I have to teach these new-uns how to play!

Then I read the game and it was Boooooooooooooooo-ring. I had to pretend I was drinking to derive some mild amusement from even posting in this thread.

I enjoyed playing backseat coordinator though. Charlatan and Ojanen are damn good players, so much that this was the second strongest mafia team I had ever been paired with.

IMO we need to play all of us again, but in a better, more standard setup. Anyone /in??

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you in for the next VP Baltar?

IDK Scien, are you gonna be more decisive and step it up this time?

[Albert B. Rampage]

NP we'll start when everyone is ready. Zorblag, tell us when you're done with your students essays haha, your presence is always celebrated.

[Albert B. Rampage]

For an Open setup, I vouch for either Friends and Enemies or Night Watch. What do those of you who are in the next game think?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Night Watch Mafia (fixed link)

[Albert B. Rampage]

What setup would you like to play in though?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well...you

were

kinda noobish Amish...

Just kidding. Are you okay with Friends and Enemies?