Mini 914 ~ Mafia Reverberation (Game Over!)

[Porkens]

/confirm

is this a theme game?

[Porkens]

Wow, this is a nice roster!

It's been months for me. Don't expect too much majesty!! /newbcard.

Cyan is a good

FF6 character

color

Purge: VP Baltar

for being too town.

Ahh, it's all coming back to me!

[Porkens]

Wow, this is a nice roster!

It's been months for me. Don't expect too much majesty!! /newbcard.

Cyan is a good

FF6 character

color

Incant: VP Baltar

for being too town.

Ahh, it's all coming back to me!

Fixed by edit.

Damn it!

(is this a theme game or something?)

[Porkens]

Well wait a minute, not to game the setup without cause but...If we have AW confirmed town, don't we just lynch EVERYONE else and those who wont play ball get slung?

I assume that this has been taken into account and there will never be confirmed anythings.

Spy is being scummy.

[Porkens]

I'd hope it wouldn't, actually. You are playing along pretty easily though. MAybe you want to hide your fear at it working or know some reason why it wouldn't.

fess up.

incant

SpyreX

[Porkens]

Agreeing with the hydratic post in 51 almost in it's entirety. Most of all with the simple reminder about godfathers and reflectors. We should keep the idea of self-vote block in mind but not really consider it a viable option.

I had missed the nopurge-speedup-dynamic. I like the idea of fiddling with that as an option.

I'll go ahead and state that, for me, with this wide a range of possible roles, it's going to be difficult to see all possible RP-combination outcomes. I can handle cop/blocker/doc/vanillas, but I'm not going to be able to follow some of what you guys might come up with as far as "but if there's an X and he's a Y, then Z could happen because of G, R, and L, statistically." So if I ask you to restate or dumb-down, it's not because I'm not paying attention or am trying to trap you, but because I really don't have a grasp. //newbcard

A lot of my recent play (not here) has been based on simple, reliable (as far as I've seen) scumtells, and I'm trying to embrace that across the board. I'm sure I'll be happy to share the list if and when they come up.

Time for work, peace.

[Porkens]

Agreeing with the hydratic post in 51 almost in it's entirety. Most of all with the simple reminder about godfathers and reflectors. We should keep the idea of self-vote block in mind but not really consider it a viable option.

So do you agree with Mighty Orbots stance on multiple purges per day? What about it is agreeable where Spyrex's stance is scummy?

I thought that SpyreX's response to 46 had a tone of "I know what your suggesting won't work, but go ahead and run around in circles 'till you figure it out on your own...meantime I'll be over here doing my own thing."

Theoretically, yes. However, with just A confirmed town it gets a little tricky.

Layout the numbers though - that may work.

See how he mentions the flaw but doesn't emphasize the obvious pitfalls.

meh, anyways.

[Porkens]

SC, I don't know if that reasoning is parody, but I said my reasons for incanting spy.

I honestly think this is dead-ending till all the V/LAs get back

[Porkens]

Cool with me. (and there is actually a valid reason)

Incant: Porkens

ohh this better pan out

[Porkens]

incant: Sotty

Spy is town. He wouldn't pull this as Scum or 3rd party. /meta

Worrying about the reporter is silly. And the doublevote fit fine with the slugishness of the game. Spy was giving us something to talk about. obvious.

My newbcards were fair warning, I'm...obvoiusly not a real noob, but w/e.

Sotty's reaction and flailing onto people on his wagon makes me feel comfortable with the vote above.

[Porkens]

not so early in day 1 you wouldnt. well maybe. precidence? pics or it didn't happen.

[Porkens]

fair warning for... what exactly if your not a real noob?

fair warning for exactly what I said in those posts.

[Porkens]

Why do you keep saying that in caps? Is it an in-joke that I'm missing?

[Porkens]

Jazz, that's an interesting idea. However, if the doublevote causes the lynch, then, logically, no one else would have been at the threshold already.

[Porkens]

For the record, the question "Is this a theme game" was supposed to be a joke.

[Porkens]

Sotty; you seemed to be putting pressure on 2 people that got onto your wagon. That's the flailing I mentioned.

Ok, ok, ok, thought, at least Sotty is active.

I propose a masslynch of the promised re-reads.

[Porkens]

incant; Rhinox

Just feel that, we could lynch them both... mmmmmm that sounds not only good but also sexy to me.

[Porkens]

zoraster (P-5) ~ Jazzmyn, Mighty Orbots, VP Baltar, Nachomamma8
Sotty7 (P-5) ~ SerialClergyman, SpyreX, -INCANT-, Jahudo

for reference. I say that Herod votes zora, Rhinox votes sotty, and they crossvote eachother. Then we only have to wait like 9 more days, right?

[Porkens]

It was just to keep them even. Intentionally lurking isn't scummy, it's just bad.

Case in point.

[Porkens]

Welcome!

Everyone who's at L-4 can swing, for all of me. Other's can live, including Rinox for now.

[Porkens]

Call it the day 1 blues if you like, I guess.

I don't think there's any possibility that they are all scum, and it's probably unlikely that 2 of them are anti-town. But 1 of 3? Sure.

Maybe they aren't great lynches, but they aren't BAD lynches by any stretch.

[Porkens]

I'd like to see the day end with 3-4 lynches, some popular, some not. I really don't care who those lynches are. There, I said it.

[Porkens]

Don't think of me as pushing from the outside. I'm not on any of them only to keep them even. If necessary, I'll put myself on anyone to keep them even.

I don't think probability is the strongest argument, but there's certainly some there. I wont say that there is for sure a scum amongst them, but who knows.

I love the idea of lynching 3 people, among other reasons, just to see how it affects day two.

I think without worrying about paranoia, many feel the same allure.

Your threats fall on deaf ears. Put me at even lynch with them as well and I'll go, too.

[Porkens]

VOP, who would you like to see get off the hook scott free?

Psh, the more I post the more you want to see my lynched. I'm just saying what everyone is thinking.

[Porkens]

We just need to railroad this game into day 2. get the leading wagons to L-1 and wait till the purge.

[Porkens]

unofficial votecount

Mighty Orbots (P-2) ~ zoraster, Jahudo, VP Baltar
Rhinox (P-2) ~ Porkens, Nikanor, Herodotus

SerialClergyman (P-3) ~ Jazzmyn, Sotty7

zoraster (P-4) ~ Mighty Orbots
Porkens (P-4) ~ Rhinox
Sotty7 (P-4) ~ -INCANT-
Jahudo (P-4) ~ SerialClergyman
SpyreX (Purged, day 1) ~ SpyreX

[Porkens]

Spyrex, vote for SC, just to make it good.

[Porkens]

That keeps rhinox alive, of which I am not a fan

[Porkens]

Do you expect them to play along and cross-vote?

[Porkens]

Incant: Mighty Orbits

Arrow Rhinox (P-2) ~ Nachomamma8, SpyreX, Herodotus
Arrow Mighty Orbots (P-2) ~ Jahudo, SerialClergyman, Porkens
SerialClergyman (P-2) ~ Jazzmyn, Sotty7, VP Baltar

[Porkens]

This plan begs the question: Would letting yourself get lynched in this situation be pro-town?

[Porkens]

incant; gammagoieeee

[Porkens]

Your ultimatum promises that if I keep my vote on you, you'll ensure a single lynch...or did I read that wrong?

Rhinox is a solid lynch today. SC is just convenient. Gamma Gooi has ruffled my spokes for seriously suggesting that the two wagons cross-vote eachother.

I'd be perfectly content with Rhinox/Gamma lynch today. Anyone else who's near enough to have a 3-way (hot) lynch can swing, too.

[Porkens]

If someone blows the multi-purge, though, would that be a scumtell? I guess this goes back to my old question: is it protown to let yourself be lynched in a masspurge?

3 is probably pie-in-the-sky, logistically. However, 2 is certainly doable.

I see your point about "not liking my not liking the request for competing wagons to crossvote" but I don't think it's reasonable to say (as gooie did) 'you two crossvote for eachother' when neither has expressed a strong opinion on the other. Anyways.

[Porkens]

MO, so breaking a multi-lynch in order to save yourself is scummy AND a good move for the scum.

How do you reconcile that with your 747?

SpyreX, I'm not sure what you are trying to point out, but maybe that's because I don't know what you are presenting this evidence in relation to.

As I read the abilities, each doublevoter is either a 1-shot or multi-shot, and they would not be able to use their other ability (if any) in the same incantation. I guess it is ambiguous about WHO the 'extra' vote can go on, but if your role goes by this verbage, then it can go one anyone. A simple "you don't get it" will suffice here.

[Porkens]

I'm on skype right now. could someone put up an unofficial votecount?

[Porkens]

nevermind I missed the real one

[Porkens]

I'd do gamma, for sure.
Rhinox is an auto-lynch for me.
MO and SC makes me itch for some reason, if I had 3 votes one of those would be my third.

[Porkens]

sotty7/rhinox is fine with me. I'll help. If we could, by hook or doublevote madness, also get gammagoi, I'd blow my wad.

SC and MO for scumteam 2010, but that's beside the issue.

[Porkens]

incant: SC

omgus

[Porkens]

Rhinox (P-2) ~ Nachomamma8, Herodotus, Mighty Orbots
Sotty7 (P-2) ~ -INCANT-, SpyreX, Gammagooey
SerialClergyman (P-2) ~ Jazzmyn, Porkens, VP Balta

[Porkens]

incant: Rhinox

Rhinox (P-2) ~ Herodotus, Mighty Orbots, porkens
Sotty7 (P-2) ~ -INCANT-, SpyreX, Gammagooey
SerialClergyman (P-2) ~ Jazzmyn, Porkens, VP Balta, Nachomamma8

[Porkens]

no, just switched

[Porkens]

ug, there's a lot to be said for chatroom mafia right now.

Rhinox (P-2) ~ Herodotus, Mighty Orbots, porkens
Sotty7 (P-2) ~ -INCANT-, SpyreX, Gammagooey
SerialClergyman (P-2) ~ Jazzmyn, VP Balta, Nachomamma8

[Porkens]

I CANT KEEP THE PLAN STRAIGHT

[Porkens]

YEs, jesus

[Porkens]

I propose that MO throws his doublevote today, now. On one of these three

Rhinox (P-2) ~ Herodotus, Mighty Orbots, porkens
Sotty7 (P-2) ~ -INCANT-, SpyreX, Gammagooey
SerialClergyman (P-2) ~ Jazzmyn, Porkens, VP Balta, Nachomamma8

[Porkens]

Sorry, I didn't mean that, never mind, jesus I'm retarted DISSREGARD

[Porkens]

MO double votes...then what?

[Porkens]

heros vote is on already dufus

[Porkens]

How many assholes we got on this ship?!

[Porkens]

ok wait a minute. you have 2 and exactlky 2 double votes? how does that work?

[Porkens]

^^^this.

Please to explain.

[Porkens]

Sorry Spy, I was very happy to compromise on the Sotty/SC purge or Rhinox/SC purge, but you got greedy and wanted to take my interests out.

I did what I had to do.

You thought you had hammered one person when you wrote this, didn't you?

[Porkens]

Sorry Spy, I was very happy to compromise on the Sotty/SC purge or Rhinox/SC purge, but you got greedy and wanted to take my interests out.

I did what I had to do.

Actually, no, you couldn't ahve thought that. Why are you apologizing?

[Porkens]

Hehhehe, mod, I

saw

that... I'm much less confused now



Well, damn fine work boys. 3 for 2 has got to be good.

[Porkens]

Awww, Vi... that was nice. You gave Jah his birthday present!

VP is hero for squeezing Rhinox into those purging...

I'm betting our two last scum in Gamma, Jazz, Porkens, and Jah.

At no point did VP vote for Rhinox. VP even chastised me for not staying on SC by moving my vote onto Rhinox. He called a double-purge involving Rhinox a "compromise."

How can you say that VP squeezed Rhinox into the purge?

I'm fully behind calling him a hero. But I can't give him credit for including Rhinox.

[Porkens]

So did you mix up names or think he actually voted Rhinox or pushed for him or were you just talking to talk?

[Porkens]

VP was willing to lynch Rhinox (one of the scum) and pushing hard for another (MO) so he's town.

Gamma has never seemed town to me. And (edit: fuck; beaten by Juhado) his attitudes towards Rhinox and MO make him a good choice today.

For my moneys: Gamma.

Incant: Gamma

[Porkens]

Ok, I just read Jazz in ISO. I'm still not happy with Gamma, but despite JAzz's in-depth pbpa, I don't see a whole lot of content. AND there's no fewer than 8 promises of re-read (scumtell IMO)

I'll ride this pony.

INCANT: JAZZ

[Porkens]

read gamma in iso.; i retract wht i said about his opin of rhinox. that crossvote business still rankles me

[Porkens]

What are people's thoughts on jazz, gamma and myself cross purging each other today?

I love this plan

[Porkens]

doublevote: Jazz

[Porkens]

double Incant: Jazz

[Porkens]

That is how MO died, no?

[Porkens]

Where you been?

[Porkens]

So what prompted you out of your meditation tonight?

[Porkens]

I am absolutely fine with the triple purge idea.

I'd also be fine with lynching Jazz solo today and Nacho tomorrow.

I'd do a three-way with Nacho and Jazz.

My DREAM triple-purge would be Jazz, Nacho, and Gamma.

But I should probably let VP purge himself, since he offered.

[Porkens]

Incant: Gammagooey

[Porkens]

You should dissolution yourself immediatly

[Porkens]

Shouldn't you? Am I blind to the obvious drawbacks?

[Porkens]

Gooie: one-shot double vote; yes.


JAzz: Everyone you know wants to have a three way with you? I'm sorry but that's just not...healthy.

I'll burn in a polynch, as I said before.

[Porkens]

The question should now be: If we lynch 2 townies and 1 scum, is that a town loss?

[Porkens]

Cool with me. (and there is actually a valid reason)

Incant: Porkens

ohh this better pan out

VP?

[Porkens]

VP, sorry, I missed your response origionally.

This is killin gme. lets no purge it down to a higher intensity?

[Porkens]

Incant; No Purge

[Porkens]

We purge Jazz. Tomorrow I'm willing to burn if it's wrong (with nacho and gamme)

INCANT: JAZZ

[Porkens]

Sotty(?)'s kill FTW

[Porkens]

Will someone please just hammer Jazz?