Mini 931: Supreme Court Mafia (Game Over post 682)

[jasonT1981]

1) How much experience do you have playing Mafia? - Quite a bit, around 2 years play on another site and 11 games here on MS, not including 3 mod abandoned games.

2) How would you describe your playstyle? - Erratic at times, however helpful

3) What do you value the most in making decisions in Mafia? Catching people out in lies or inconsistoncys in their game play

4) Do you expect the Spanish Inquisition? If I come under pressure for my actions, then yes...I expect every avenue to be explored and hopefully I can answer as best I can to help the town

5) Do you prefer playing as mafia or as town? Depends, I have had some fun games as scum, but some fun games as town also.

6) How many games are you playing in at the moment? this and Brrr Mafia, also modding one that is about to start on another site

7) What do you consider to be your greatest strength as town? As mafia?

As town my greatest strength would be being level headed and stepping away from the game for an hour or so to re-think things rather than make rash jumps onto wagons or make rash accusations

As scum I have hte ability to blend in and not really raise much suuspicion on me. as town I would usually come under pressure on day 1 or 2 and make an unforced claim.

[jasonT1981]

I'm curious to see how close to real life the roles in this game shake out. I couldn't find what the trial court said (only the Michigan CoA), but there seems to be a discrepancy between what happened in the Real World and what's pertinent to this game. Did a little bit of research just to see if we might be able to rely upon some real world facts to help verify claims, but I'm not too sure that we will be able to do so.

To be honest, I don't really even know what is going on in the real world in the suprememe court, I am from UK and we don't get much news on that... (as long as I don't watch fox lol)

[jasonT1981]

Net, I believe you did this before in a game I played with you, correct?

[jasonT1981]

Setup is interesting I think. The CIA agent is the serial killer obviously, but who are the mafia?

I'm sorry, where did it say that there is a serial killer?

Interesting point there, The set up has not been listed as this is not an open.... So how can Jack know the setup is interesting... unless he actually means the theme...

but yea, nothing on a SK either...

very weird post, Jack care to explain?

[jasonT1981]

Setup is interesting I think. The CIA agent is the serial killer obviously, but who are the mafia?

I'm sorry, where did it say that there is a serial killer?

Interesting point there, The set up has not been listed as this is not an open.... So how can Jack know the setup is interesting... unless he actually means the theme...

but yea, nothing on a SK either...

very weird post, Jack care to explain?

You're choosing to hold your comment, Jack?

Jack, a response.. please?

[jasonT1981]

Setup is interesting I think. The CIA agent is the serial killer obviously, but who are the mafia?

I'm sorry, where did it say that there is a serial killer?

I'm still curious where you determined the CIA agent is "obviously" the serial killer?

I'm afraid you guys are on a need to know basis. And right now, you don't need to know.

With-holding information that could be useful to town... yea happy to do this... DIE SCUM!!!!

vote: Jack

[jasonT1981]

You had me at "light scum" after the SK comment, and were voting Darox. So it seems like just refusing to answer the question has put me above Darox for you, and indeed to the point where it is worthwhile lynching me "to get information"?

Well, you are already saying you have information that could be vitel to the town.

I'm afraid you guys are on a need to know basis. And right now, you don't need to know.

And refusing to help the town with your information, you can see why the heat is on you, no? therefor if you won't give it up willingly, the lynch to get info maybe our only choice as regards to you for the best of the town,

[jasonT1981]

My conversation starters are soooo much more fun then question lists.

Someone in this room is trying to kill them, but the only people in the room that are not justices are the two attorneys and the secret service agent..

Have you read this bit from the OP netopolis?

But that still does not allude to a seriel killer as you say

Setup is interesting I think. The CIA agent is the serial killer obviously, but who are the mafia?

So answer the bloody questions... what makes you think there is a SK?

[jasonT1981]

Also, why if you were going from the write up did you not just say that in the first place? THIS is why people are suspicious, you are giving vibes that you have inside info on the set-up that others do not know. as you think the set up is 'Interesting'

[jasonT1981]

Jack... plain and simple..

1) how do you know there is a CIA agent as it says nothing about CIA
2) How do you know the 'CIA' Agent is the SK?
3) What do you know as to the setup that is in your words 'interesting'

To echo what has been said time and time again..

ANSWER THESE BLOODY QUESTIONS!!!!!

[jasonT1981]

not good enough is right,

That first post was my version of the conversation starter. The fact that there was no CIA agent in the setup gave me an "out" once the starter had run it's course. Proof that it wasn't a scumslip, basically. That it was just made up.

This is in NO WAY proof of it not being a scum slip what so ever. The fact you say this

I'm afraid you guys are on a need to know basis. And right now, you don't need to know.

followed by this

I think what you are saying here is too general. Town benefits from gaining information about player alignment. Not just any old information. Why am I as scum refusing to answer?

Yes, town does benefit from information.. information you have already said is ' on a need to know, and we do not need to know...

So yea... contridict yourself much?

Why is that? Btw, that's what I meant by "refusal to answer the question", I didn't mean your set of questions. I don't see it as suspicious.

Refusal to answer questions is suspicious... because as you have said while contridicting yourself town benefits from information.. information you refuse to give up as it is 'need to know' in your own words.

2) I haven't refused to answer question

s

, only one question.

Yes, it may only be one question you are refusing to answer, but as you say town benefits from information... and as I have already pointed out you have said we do not need to know... you see why we think you are scum?

Not good enough. I hope you enjoy dangling.

You're ready to lynch

right now, you have contrdicted yourself so much, and refused to answer questions I am confident enough to say DIE SCUM (Or SK!!!)

[jasonT1981]

The ONLY people in the room who aren't justices are the attorneys and the secret service agent.

There is no CIA agent

.

FACEPALM!!! HEAD-DESK

Setup is interesting I think.

The CIA agent is the serial killer

obviously, but who are the mafia?

Contridicting
Lying
refusing to answer questions
with-holding information.

Again I ask... how do you know the setup?

[jasonT1981]

Proof that it wasn't a scumslip, basically.

Not saying it was a scumslip. Saying that it's a SK-slip.

-.-

What's the difference?

How can there actually be a CIA agent in the setup when the write up confirms that there isn't?

Actually... it says secret service... that can include CIA... the write up does not confirm there is no CIA.. it just confirms there are secret service agents..

/HEAD-DESK

[jasonT1981]

This wagon on Jack is pretty lame here.

Likely scum: Darklight, pwnman.

Obvtown: Green Crayons

Likely town: Neto

I find it rather troubling you could declare someone obivious town in day 1 and only after 7 pages.

[jasonT1981]

I add, that I find it even more troubling you can declare him Obivious town when he has only made 10 posts!

Care to explain?

[jasonT1981]

Oh, no neither suspect him as scum or share your feeling as of right now... I am just always sceptical as to the reasons when someone says obivious town, especially so early in a game... because only scum know for sure someone is town or not... if you are town, you don't know for sure someone is obivious town.

[jasonT1981]

• conjures up the idea that Jack copied and pasted VOTES. (?)

To be honest, I kinda just saw this as a typo considering Jack copying answers was a topic of discussion for a short period around the time of that post.

[jasonT1981]

• conjures up the idea that Jack copied and pasted VOTES. (?)

To be honest, I kinda just saw this as a typo considering Jack copying answers was a topic of discussion for a short period around the time of that post.

that isn't my main problem. My problem now is that he claims to have EBWOPed that he made a typo. but he never did.

The biggest part of the case is a gut read.

hmmm, ur right.. i did a quick Iso and nothing EBWOP

[jasonT1981]

Thanks for the subtance Jack.

pman5595 wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:
pman5595 wrote:

• conjures up the idea that Jack copied and pasted VOTES. (?)


To be honest, I kinda just saw this as a typo considering Jack copying answers was a topic of discussion for a short period around the time of that post.

that isn't my main problem. My problem now is that he claims to have EBWOPed that he made a typo. but he never did.

The biggest part of the case is a gut read.



hmmm, ur right.. i did a quick Iso and nothing EBWOP

Wrong. Post 135

Eh, I guess you are right.

[jasonT1981]

Back from V/LA later on this evening/ tomorrow morning... just thought I would check in as I have not posted in a few days.

[jasonT1981]

Re: The SK yes/no - I think playing guess the mod and setup is a dangerous idea, it takes away from actual scum hunting in my opinion... and experience.

The only way we can know for sure if there is another killer that is not scum alligned is tomorrow depending on the number of kills.

More later hopefully when I get a chance to check back in.

[jasonT1981]

Got my prod, sorry been dosed with flu all week, all my games are/were suffering.

DarkLightA - seems to want nothing but the blood of Jack, I can understand some of the case against Jack, but I have backed mine up, all DarkLightA is doing is shouting JACK IS SK... OMG JACK CLAIMED.

1stly... I have already said I don't want to play guess the set up, role speculation and second guessing the mod is dangerous as it takes away from scum hunting...

DarkLightA has done no scum hunting except shout at Jack in caps lately....

unvote
vote: DarkLightA

he is dead set on Jack and no one else, has basically refused to look at the case on Bub (I can understand some of it) It's like all he wants to do is lynch Jack and look at no one else.

I do howeer put an

FOS: Bub

I can see where everyone is coming from.

And a hello to Camn, I am sure she is still annoyed at me because of Burr Mafia

[jasonT1981]

Yea... I dont mid other games being referenced... but to sit and actually read them, Urgh.. i want my concentration on this game not another game... posting links to other games takes time away that we could be hunting scum in this game.

Am beginning to wonder if ub is stalling for time in the hopes a wagon gets directed in another direction while he is away as he aint posted in 2 days.

[jasonT1981]

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So , in summary..
the scum are:

DarkLightA
Netopolis
and Jack or Bud.

I will pile on with Jason, whilst awaiting Bud's response.

Vote: DarklightA

Camn, I hope to god you have done this again, not referencing a full game, Camn will aprieciete this post though.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 14#2160614

LOL

[jasonT1981]

Vote: Bub Bidderskins

I'm not answering your question for a very obvious reason.

Wait, is that the hammer???

[jasonT1981]

Wait, is that the hammer???

*stare*

And your pointless stare is making

what

point exactly....

[jasonT1981]

OK, Yea, I went to reply to it however mod had closed, so

I knew it was at L-1... I was meanning wow... is that the hammer on the actual content of the post? which was

Vote: Bub Bidderskins

I'm not answering your question for a very obvious reason.

It was very anti-climatic... claim vinilla town.. right next post its the hammer with very little to say on the matter except he would not answer the question. It seemed a lazy hammer to me, just waiting for the chance to hammer after a claim.

You understand now Jack?.. it was nothing to do with him being at -1 before the hammer and I not knowing that was the hammer, but as in the way the hammer came.

I agree, GC is a big loss but thankfully no town power roles are lost.

[jasonT1981]

I wonder who the other mafia is besides jason and camn.

What are your reasons for thinking I am mafia Jack.. seems you have just latched onto Yosarian2 post above you were he says he has a bad feeling on me.

[jasonT1981]

seems you have just latched onto Yosarian2 post above you were he says he has a bad feeling on me.

Do you really think so? Look over the two posts carefully.

I have... I still don't get where your suspicion is from..

Unless it was to do with my hammer comment on day 1... if thats the case I don't see that making me scum..

[jasonT1981]

Kill:DarkLightA

What exactlydoes this achieve?

[jasonT1981]

Right now my suspicion is still on Darklight from Yesterday.. his vote today is just off as well...

though why did you not aswer my question.

[jasonT1981]

you are still also yet to answer what makes you think I am the scum.....I read both those posts you mentioned and not once does it mention me as scum, your suspicion only came after someone else had mentioned me.

[jasonT1981]

Vote: Bub Bidderskins

I'm not answering your question for a very obvious reason.

So, why would you not answer again....

Given the way the hammer happened I am also suspicious of Darox, Jack.

[jasonT1981]

Also, add on how he jumped on the Camn wagon with ease and little explination.

Vote: Camn

I think this is a good way to go today.

.

Looking back ,I am confident enough to do this.

vote Darox

[jasonT1981]

Right now my suspicion is still on Darklight from Yesterday.. his vote today is just off as well...

though why did you not aswer my question.

You're on a need to know basis.

Again, with the need to know basis....

why are you hiding away from questions being asked of you AGAIN today?

[jasonT1981]

Also, add on how he jumped on the Camn wagon with ease and little explination.

Vote: Camn

I think this is a good way to go today.

.

Looking back ,I am confident enough to do this.

vote Darox

hahaha

You didn't look back at all, obviously, considering his camn vote is in the same post where he explains the hammer vote that you found oh so suspicious.

unvote:camn, vote:Jason

Yes... ok his camn vote was in the saem post... however he gave NO reasons for his vote on Camn and latched onto the wagon that is why my vote is on him.

[jasonT1981]

Vote: Jack

/goes back to lurking

Next post....

Kill:DarkLightA

Followed later by

Can you unkill me please, Jack?

Makes me think DLA, and Jack are both not taking this game too seriously... is their any puurpose to this exchange.

I'm beginning to think both could be scum, and trying to make us think they are to obivious scummy to be actual scum.

right now, my scum team would be

Jack
Darox
DLA

Jacks defending of Darox and attack on me for making points against Darox strike me as odd. It seems Jack was trying to gather a wagon on Camn, and now trying to get one on me.

I think this could be a scum pushed wagon on both myself and camn to be honest.

[jasonT1981]

And I once again ask this...

Right now my suspicion is still on Darklight from Yesterday.. his vote today is just off as well...

though why did you not aswer my question.

You're on a need to know basis.

Again, with the need to know basis....

why are you hiding away from questions being asked of you AGAIN today?

WHY are we on a need to know basis, you pulled this crap yesterday... its not gonna fly today when we are already down 2 town members

[jasonT1981]

I'm sure people are going to jump all over me for saying this, but Jack is obv town here, and Dark Lights actions in response to him are looking odder and odder.

QFT.

DLA badly needs to talk about people who aren't Jack. Admitting lurking makes me pause though - somehow "back to lurking" doesn't sound like a lurkerscum sentiment.

I don't agree that Jack is Obv town... sorry, I just don't buy into the Obv town theory when it comes to ANYONE in mafia. It could be a ploy between the two of them to make one look good in the eyes of the town.

However I do agree with your point about DLA, my vote was on him on day 1 come the end, and I would be comfortable with his lynch today as he is one of my 3 scum suspects at this point.

[jasonT1981]

I think this could be a scum pushed wagon on both myself and camn to be honest.

Sigh.

Why sigh? why not make actual comments on what I said?

[jasonT1981]

Is there a reason you keep failing to answer questions or make sagnificant posts Jack?

Or you could at least point out whats wrong with my theories rather than make pointless postings? would THAT be so hard... but yea, again I ask why you refuse to answer questions and 'need to know basis'

If the information is useful to town, that you may have... then yes.. we NEED to know

[jasonT1981]

Again, any reason why you refuse to answer Jack? what is 'need to know basis' and why do the town not need to know if indeed your info is 'need to know basis'

[jasonT1981]

yes, but you answered it saying we 'are on a need to know basis' meaning we do not need to know about what you are saying/doing and implying you are hiding things

you pulled the 'need to know basis' crap on day 1.. and again on day 2... can you understand why you are coming under fire a little? saying ' need to know basis' implies you know stuff, and you are not willing to share with the town.. hence making you scummy.

On a smaller note, I am V/LA as per usual at weekends, however should be about a few times more than usual as I will be at home a bit more than usual

[jasonT1981]

@Neto, jason, DLA, whoever: What do you think Jack is hiding? What game relevant questions are outstanding atm that he needs to answer?

Itys more the fact he is saying that he is not answering even the most simple of questions saying 'you are on a need to know basis and you do not need to know'

We are asking exactly what it is, as if he has information useful to the town he should come forward, and the fact he played this 'need to know basis' crap on day 1 and now again on day 2 leads me to believe he does indeed have something he is with-holding information to the town.

Look at his interaction with DLA... it contributes nothing to the game, Darox, Jack and DLA are all playing like this with useless postings that do not help the town in anyway, I could go over them all... but it would be a waste of time as it takes away from scum hunting. But they are all there to see on a simple Iso of the 3.

Just look at how Jack jumped to defend Darox after I cast suspicion laughing at me and casting a vote on me for thinking Darox is scum... it was almost like he was throwing his vote anywhere he can..

I see he is now back on the Camn wagon without any real reasoning... again I think it maybe or at least has the potentail to be a scum lead wagon from opertunistic scum now the town is down 2 townies.

If he really had any will to scum hunt he would not be throwing his vote around so wishy washy with little to no reasoning.... he jumped on my wagon the second someone else voiced concern (in the very next post actually) and jumped back to Camn when no one backed up his wagon hopping vote. And both DLA and Jack scoff of the fact it could be scum driven without comment just adding useless postings.

So Yea, right now my scum team still stands at

Jack
Darox
DLA

Either one of those 3 would make good lynches I feel....

I also fail to see what is behind the camn wagon also....

[jasonT1981]

If he really had any will to scum hunt he would not be throwing his vote around so wishy washy with little to no reasoning.... he jumped on my wagon the second someone else voiced concern (in the very next post actually) and jumped back to Camn when no one backed up his wagon hopping vote.

And both DLA and Jack

scoff of the fact it could be scum driven without comment just adding useless postings.

The bolded was meant to be Jack and Darox sorry.

[jasonT1981]

The questioned I didn't answer was "What did this achieve?" in response to my "kill:darklightA" post.

Well, I will ask again, what exactly did that pointless

vote
kill
please unkill me

thing achieve? or what was the purpose of the kill: post you made....

[jasonT1981]

Or maybe jason got jumpy about the Kill:dla post because he's scumbuddies with DLA.

Neither actually, i found it something stupid that added nothing to the game and was completly pointless if you did not have day kill.... the exchange almost makes it look like you and DLA are not taking this game with any seriousness.

If I was scum buddies with DLA, why would I worry about a fake day kill that had no effect? my reaction is annoyance as to how you are treating the game.

So, what exactly is this 'need to know' information you have, or claim to have?

[jasonT1981]

I find jason suspicious, but his reaction to votes on him was a bit paranoid for mafia.

Sorry, can you post examples of my 'paranoia' as I continued to question you when you voted me, like I already had been doing, and continue to do so

[jasonT1981]

joke or not, the fact he is still pulling it today is redicilious and damn right scummy. You should never joke about having information that could be useful to the town and then say 'need to know basis' regardless of what day it is.

[jasonT1981]

Yea, time to pressure DLA a little bit more to post something, and explain his constant attacks on Jack (which I feel is uber-bussing) L-1 baby!!

unvote
vote:DLA

interesting Darox is on the wagon, who I also suspect as scum.

[jasonT1981]

The facty he coninues to allude to the fact he has information that could be useful but keeps telling the town we 'are need to know'

Joke or not, its tiresome... and if he does have information why not give it to the town

If not... why on day 2, page 16 and nearing 400 posts does he CONTINUE to tell people 'need to know' basis.

that is how it is scummy.. he is obiviously hiding something, and using the 'joke' as a reason not to divulge information... or at least could be.

[jasonT1981]

The facty he coninues to allude to the fact he has information that could be useful but keeps telling the town we 'are need to know'

No, he dosn't.

Really now? I beg to differ

Setup is interesting I think. The CIA agent is the serial killer obviously, but who are the mafia?

And

Setup is interesting I think. The CIA agent is the serial killer obviously, but who are the mafia?

I'm sorry, where did it say that there is a serial killer?

I'm still curious where you determined the CIA agent is "obviously" the serial killer?

I'm afraid you guys are on a need to know basis. And right now, you don't need to know.

followed by

You weren't far off in your suspicion Net. Except your confirmation bias was twisting it the wrong way (but conf bias is a town tell so it's ok).

That first post was my version of the conversation starter.

The fact that there was no CIA agent in the setup gave me an "out" once the starter had run it's course.

Proof that it wasn't a scumslip, basically. That it was just made up.

oh and lets not forget

The ONLY people in the room who aren't justices are the attorneys and the secret service agent. There is no CIA agent.

and

Proof that it wasn't a scumslip, basically.

Not saying it was a scumslip. Saying that it's a SK-slip.

-.-

What's the difference?

How can there actually be a CIA agent in the setup when the write up confirms that there isn't?

followed by his classic, again

You're on a need to know basis.

Each and everyone of those posts alude to him having information.... and 'need to know basis'

[jasonT1981]

Way to defend your scum buddy

[jasonT1981]

Sigh.
Jason and Netopalis.

Seriously, please stop what you're doing, take a look at what you are saying, and please realise how ridiculous you sound.

Guess what! I'm withholding information from you too! So is Yosarian! So is Camn! So are both of you.

Nobody here has shared their role. Why? Because the town doesn't need to know.
Please stop getting up in arms whenever someone alludes that they know something and refuse to share it.

Can we seriously just end this thing.

Ok, fair enough... if it was a one off joke I will give you that we are looking to much into things, but the fact he has continued to allude to it is what is sticking out.

And yes, we are all in the dark about each others roles, but if you look at it you will see that it is alot more than just his role... he is hinting he has information vital to everyone that he does not want to share. His role has nothing to do with this, the fact he continues to say things making out we do not need to know what he knows is dangerous play.... and hella scummy.

But yea, this is damn interesting... first Jack defends Darox.

here

Vote: Bub Bidderskins

I'm not answering your question for a very obvious reason.

So, why would you not answer again....

Given the way the hammer happened I am also suspicious of Darox, Jack.

really?

The obvious reasons are that my suspects may easily change based on Bub's flip, they couldn't be lynched at that point anyway, and the big one, because I didn't want to influence the night kill.

and here

Also, add on how he jumped on the Camn wagon with ease and little explination.

Vote: Camn

I think this is a good way to go today.

.

Looking back ,I am confident enough to do this.

vote Darox

hahaha

You didn't look back at all, obviously, considering his camn vote is in the same post where he explains the hammer vote that you found oh so suspicious.

unvote:camn, vote:Jason

with Jack placing a vote on me almost imidetily(sp?) after I vote Darox... and now as shown above, but one more time to show the connection, we have Darox defending Jack..

Sigh.
Jason and Netopalis.

Seriously, please stop what you're doing, take a look at what you are saying, and please realise how ridiculous you sound.

Guess what! I'm withholding information from you too! So is Yosarian! So is Camn! So are both of you.

Nobody here has shared their role. Why? Because the town doesn't need to know.
Please stop getting up in arms whenever someone alludes that they know something and refuse to share it.

Can we seriously just end this thing.

Nice link there, eh? Jack defending Darox... Darox defending Jack.

[jasonT1981]

Can someone check over jason's posts and tell me whether they think he's town being paranoid or scum trying to cram a case together on his accusers? I always like a second opinion.

Say what you want, but you cant deney the link between you and Darox with you each defending each other.....

[jasonT1981]

Can someone check over jason's posts and tell me whether they think he's town being paranoid or scum trying to cram a case together on his accusers? I always like a second opinion.

Also, why don't you check over yourself? or, are you worried your wagon wont take of so you need someone elses verification first? for you to wagon hop betwen me and Camn once again.

If you look over my posts Jack you will see I have suspected both you and DLA as scum from day 1... And the day 2 buddying between you and Darox is something that cant be ignored.

[jasonT1981]

Way to defend your scum buddy

Vote:Jason

What reasons though? I have already listed both as my scum suspects many times, so this is not a random comment.

[jasonT1981]

Way to defend your scum buddy

Vote:Jason

What reasons though? I have already listed both as my scum suspects many times, so this is not a random comment.

Let's say as this conversation has gone on, I've had less and less confidence that your attacks on Jack are being made in good faith. When Darox pointed out how silly you're being, and you tried to shut him up by accusing him of being "Jack's scum buddy", that was the last straw.

First off... me saying he was is scum buddy was the last straw? well if you had been paying attention I had said all during day 2 I thought the pair were scum

So Yea, right now my scum team still stands at

Jack
Darox
DLA

Either one of those 3 would make good lynches I feel....

and

right now, my scum team would be

Jack
Darox
DLA

Jacks defending of Darox and attack on me for making points against Darox strike me as odd. It seems Jack was trying to gather a wagon on Camn, and now trying to get one on me.

So yea, I had already been pushing the thoughts they were scum, and hence I felt they were scum buddys defending each other as I already pointed out.

Anyway, moving on.. concensous is mass claim.

I am Antonin Scalia, vanilla justice

[jasonT1981]

Basicailly what I was saying above is, I was saying he was protecting his scum buddy as I had listed them at least twice before as two of the scum team in my mind.

[jasonT1981]

If it is my choice then Jack or Darox whoever is on first really, I think both are scum so that would be my pick.

but if pman5595 wants to claim next thats OK with me also, we are all going to have to claim by the end of today anyway.

[jasonT1981]

Well, I have already claimed Jack... but yea it can be infuriating in mass claims waiting on someone nominated and them not being on for ages.

To be honest, regardless of order we all have to claim at some point today. Though I am thinking of a patern I think we shall see as regards to roles being claimed.

[jasonT1981]

very interesting Pman. So, essentailly you can cancel someones vote if I am understanding right?

Given Bub was considered scum, I can understand... but I assume the vote you veto'd was the one on you?

Can you veto anyones vote? or just a vote on that has been placed upon yourself?

[jasonT1981]

The reason I asked, was because I have never came across this role before. Thanks Pman

[jasonT1981]

So is anyone alive out there?

OK, since we are waiting, I have taken a bit of flack recently for my day 2 actions, alot suspect me so to keep the game moving while we wait I invite anyone to ask me anything about my actions and I will try and clear everything up.

[jasonT1981]

Camn or Dry-fit, whoever's next online, should claim. It may be a while on Camn, since she posted that she was away.

Where did she say that? In your

scum quicktopic??

VOTE:NETOPOLIS

Here

Hello, everyone!

Firstly, I am on vacation in the west indies. there is internets here.. but I am mostly on the beach.. so don't expect much of me till i return!

And here

Sorry Im "too quiet"

Finals are over.
I am drinking very heavily right now.
I will catch up before I leave for vacation!!

Anyway, why don't you just claim next Jack? its apprent the waiting game is going to be long, so just whoever is on should claim when they are on to save time waiting around and keep discussion going?

[jasonT1981]

Jack should not claim next.

hmmm, again you are defending him, I am finding this more and more interesting... Why should Jack not claim next.

Just outta curiosity?

[jasonT1981]

I think fishy could play good scum.

Darox is at least implying he has a good/role related reason to want to go after fishy. Fishy pulled out the consensus line which is kind of weak.

Yes, he was and yet claimed vinilla.......

weird. The way he was talking it seemed like he had information

[jasonT1981]

Yea, but I think we are essentially at LyoL

[jasonT1981]

Wait... how the hell is Jack cop confirmed town? Have I missed something?

Again you buddy up with him as I have pointed out in the past, there is DEFF a connection between you two. And I am not sure I like it.

vote:Darox

[jasonT1981]

Yea, but I think we are essentially at LyoL

Wait... how the hell is Jack cop confirmed town? Have I missed something?

Again you buddy up with him as I have pointed out in the past, there is DEFF a connection between you two. And I am not sure I like it.

vote:Darox

If you're a townie jason, you're the kind of townie that makes the town LOSE

I am that confident Darox is scum.. I have been saying it all along

[jasonT1981]

got my prod, been having power cuts all week, hopefully will be back to normal later this evening.

[jasonT1981]

did a very quick read-through on jason

his switch from major Jack tunneling to suspicion of DLA because of DLA's suspicion of Jack is bad, his fos on bud is worse, he seems like he is trying to blend into the town. Will most likely vote him once I get a chance to do a detailed read-through

The reason I was suspicious of DLA and his jack is scum suspicion is because all DLA did was scream

LETS LYNCH Jack
JACK is SK
WHY HAVEN'T WE LYNCHED JACK

And other things to that effect.

AND made no effort to make any substancial case on Jack. I still feel Jack is possible scum. But the way DLA went about his suspicions were off to me.

Also yea, I missed that about the confirmed cop thing but I still dont think it is confirmed he had an innocent on Jack.. Jack himself even admits that.

[jasonT1981]

did a very quick read-through on jason

his switch from major Jack tunneling to suspicion of DLA because of DLA's suspicion of Jack is bad, his fos on bud is worse, he seems like he is trying to blend into the town. Will most likely vote him once I get a chance to do a detailed read-through

The reason I was suspicious of DLA and his jack is scum suspicion is because all DLA did was scream

LETS LYNCH Jack
JACK is SK
WHY HAVEN'T WE LYNCHED JACK

And other things to that effect.

AND made no effort to make any substancial case on Jack. I still feel Jack is possible scum. But the way DLA went about his suspicions were off to me.

Also yea, I missed that about the confirmed cop thing but I still dont think it is confirmed he had an innocent on Jack.. Jack himself even admits that.

[jasonT1981]

Bah, it told me error and it didnt post, when I resubmnit after leaving for a bit its posted twice... geez

[jasonT1981]

Good game, but if Jack got a negitive on me, meaning I did nothing in the night... why did he vote me? lol

[jasonT1981]

Ah, fair enough