Mini 228 - Smash Brothers - GAME OVER

[inHimshallibe]

HA! First post!!!

vote: indentureddjinn

My momma told me so.

[inHimshallibe]

You're just jealous .

[inHimshallibe]

unvote

vote: armlx

. Oh my gosh, YOU suck!

[inHimshallibe]

Chat mafia is not a good guage of my play.

[inHimshallibe]

gah... perfectionism... taking over... **gauge**

[inHimshallibe]

Mental notes I've made thus far:
Nanook/raj exchange
armlx and indentureddjinn actually commenting on their no-votes


(Mod: Not voting: NanookTheWolf, indentureddjinn, armlx)

[inHimshallibe]

Perhaps I thought more of your second exchange than your first.

[inHimshallibe]

OK, armlx semi-checks out.

unvote: armlx

vote: Iammars

- scummiest reactions to posts thus far.

[inHimshallibe]

Iammars never voted me...

And to address the notes bit - First of all, why is it so suspicious? Good grief, people, way to blow something out of proportion.

[inHimshallibe]

Why FOS if you don't mean it?

FOS: indentureddjinn

, and I do mean that.

[inHimshallibe]

*sniffs* What's that? I smell a bandwagon!!!

unvote

;

vote: indentureddjinn

- following up my FOS, especially after the most recent developments.

(Vote number 4)

[inHimshallibe]

And, to add to Bacde's statements - dude, this is how Day One should be played.

[inHimshallibe]

Please, anybody care to put him lynch minus two?

[inHimshallibe]

There are only 4 votes on indentureddjinn that I count. Let's not split hairs though.

[inHimshallibe]

Vote him then?

[inHimshallibe]

I don't see

much

wrong with how Bacde's acting. Only thing I have a problem with is his "not buying Jigglypuff as a townie" - every Smasher is unique, there really aren't many "plain" characters, so who's to say that one character is less plain than another? That'd be the mod's job. Sticking with my vote, because indentureddjinn DID claim townie - not a loss - but,

FOS: Bacde

.

[inHimshallibe]

I still don't think there's much to be "sold on" considering if there are vanilla townies or not.

raj, don't go all WIFOM on us. If, if, if... If ID turns up scum, raj is a good candidate for scum as well. So is Nanook, but I'll explain that when the need arises. And, Bacde, why didn't you try and defend yourself before claiming?

[inHimshallibe]

but with Bacde's claim and everyone agreeing that there is no normal roles int he game, i now beleive it.

You apparently don't pay that much attention.

i cant see how because i voiced what everyone knew.. Bacde was heavily pushing the town before a claim and discussion. and almost everyone FOS or voted him. should we now fos the whole town for changing thier vote.

Well, I attacked you in particular... there's no need in hoping your mistakes get covered up in the wake of the town's vote change.

FOS: rajrhcpfreak

[inHimshallibe]

Wow. My grandmother lynches people faster than you guys.

[inHimshallibe]

I applaud your efforts, Chaos, I really do. I'd consider branching out every now and then to join the town, though. It's good for the skin, like sunscreen.

[inHimshallibe]

Just lynch him. It makes things easier.

[inHimshallibe]

How about this guys - if indentureddjinn does not respond by tomorrow at noon (CST), he will be lynched. Sounds good to me.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh, terrible.

vote: Chaos

[inHimshallibe]

I've been assigned a fairly long and difficult paper to write; it's doubtful I'll be of much use until Thursday. I'll try on my little mental recesses.

[inHimshallibe]

4 out of 5. Defense?

[inHimshallibe]

unvote

for now. Chaos, you were on the wrong side of the bandwagon Yesterday, which is why I chose to vote you, as was SinisterO. I happen to believe your claim, so

vote: SO

[inHimshallibe]

I'd rather lynch the one not here at the moment.

[inHimshallibe]

Whoa. Not what I meant. Let's lynch the one that hasn't claimed yet.

[inHimshallibe]

I'm applying pressure to see posts. SO has responded in I think a protown manner.

unvote

- I too would like to hear from the less vocal ones.

[inHimshallibe]

vote: PBuG

- I agree with Chaos.

[inHimshallibe]

To quote IS from another game, "suddenly the planets just happened to align, the stars shine just bright enough, that butterfly in South America flapped its wings just the right way..."

CoNFiRM VoTe: PBuG

- that's the laziest scum move I've seen in a while.

[inHimshallibe]

What I mean is PBuG totally ripped off what had been said earlier. I don't see much in his claim than has already been discussed. I find it unlikely that you two exactly hit the nail on the head in your discussion.

[inHimshallibe]

Obvious or not, I find it too coincidental.

And I don't think Mario is necessarily mafia.

[inHimshallibe]

Given Bacde's response, my vote stays.

OMG, he's gonna do the note thing again!
armlx's defense of PBuG is noted.

[inHimshallibe]

Grumble...

unvote

. And, guys, let's play instead of claiming.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh ho ho. Sorry to disgruntle you, Chaos. I can easily go back to YOUR wagon, since you've apparently missed where I gave reasons for staying my vote on PBuG instead of merely "hopping." No, I didn't think you'd like that. Don't think I'd push for something that I wasn't willing to do myself.

[inHimshallibe]

Lynch Count - Day 1

7

indentureddjinn

- armlx,

Bacde

, inhimshallibe, Iammars, rajrhcpfreak,

NanookTheWolf

,

PBuG

3

Bacde

-

Chaos

, SinisterOverlord,

indentureddjinn

1 Iammars - Someone
1

NanookTheWolf

-

NanookTheWolf

Not voting:

Assasin

Scum

Confirmed Town

Reasonable claims

Thought to be town, not confirmed like the others

I'm going to throw into the mix that I'm town (obviously), and that I think it's an extremely gutty, if not insane, move to be the first on your GF's wagon. So, I'm going to color in me and armlx.

7

indentureddjinn

-

armlx

,

Bacde

,

inhimshallibe

, Iammars, rajrhcpfreak,

NanookTheWolf

,

PBuG

I really do find it hard to believe that no scum are on the wagon at all, so to me it's between raj and Iammars. Hmmm, I felt like they both could be bad Yesterday, but, given their statements Today it makes me wonder if there were any scum at all on the wagon. I'll be back later with more thoughts, and hopefully a vote.

[inHimshallibe]

OK, so you get to use the role you copy, correct PBuG?

[inHimshallibe]

Definitely not a B move.

[inHimshallibe]

Shape up, slowpokes! Let's get to the posting.

Someone, eh? I don't really suggest a metagame lynch here, but I do agree with voting for off-voters!

vote: Someone

[inHimshallibe]

I agree with you about the button combinations being indicative. This game would be fairly lacking though if nobody has a smash move.

[inHimshallibe]

I believe Blackberry.

unvote

- CA has been asking about this role for some time now. It makes perfect sense to include it as Master Hand. Basically, Blackberry, I think if we're in lynch or lose, then maybe that's the optimal time to use it.

[inHimshallibe]

I really don't think Blackberry's lying. As I said before, CA was asking about this role.

[inHimshallibe]

raj, what? Do you really want me to pull up the posts and take a little bit longer in lynching you, or should we just have a speedlynch?

vote: rajrhcpfreak

[inHimshallibe]

raj acts a little off from norm every game. But I'm voting for his refusal to listen (mainly to me, this time).

[inHimshallibe]

unvote

- Well, that changes things.

If the town needs to just get through the Day, I'm your best bet. But, I suggest that we find scum.

vote: SinisterOverlord

- via POE.

[inHimshallibe]

Claims:
Iammars, rajrhcpfreak: masons
PBuG: Kirby, supercop.
Bacde: Mr Game+Watch, random stuff
armlx: Fox, reflecter
Chaos: DK, roleblocker
Blackberry: Master Hand, player dropper
SinisterOverlord: Samus, charge-up vig
inHimshallibe:

Ness, one-shot vig

- used up

Well, I'm the kid from Earthbound - I get to pull out the bat once and take a cut. I'm regretful to inform that I used my kill on Assasin.

Right now, I think that our claimed masons need to be a lynch in the near future, if not Today. I say this because we don't have an alignment cop anymore, thanks to yours truly. (People need to learn to place votes. GRR.) And I'm actually quite suspicious because of raj's comment on one of the kills being a vigging. The only way one would make such a statement would be if one was that particular vig, or if one were scum and had reason to think that they're the only scum in the game. And there's this comment that I had forgotten all about, which just screams misdirection to me -

waht we need to think about is who would the mod pair up together to be mafia.

so if you think pokemon are the mafia then you should vote for him.

Not only does this not make sense, it's completely leading the town down the wrong line of thinking. And then...

no i think the vig killed Assasin.

no evidence, just speculation.

I suppose I can buy someone calling a vig kill, but not on a specific head.

unvote; vote: raj

- at least until I hear a response to what I've said. But once more, I make the statement - I'm the best candidate for Today if no one can reach a consensus elsewhere. seeing as I'm now powerless.

Oh, and to boot -

I agree to reveal the role, but I'm not sure if my partner will. I'll wait for him to consent revealing first before I reveal, as revealing could be very dangerous.

Right now, I'm reading - "Oh my gosh. Let me stall for a claim guys. raj, be thinking up a good one." And, oh, Blackbetty's already made that comment. At least I'll have some support.

[inHimshallibe]

Chaos, it does no good to roleblock me. I've used up my only shot.

How about: Chaos blocks PBuG, and PBuG copies me. If Chaos is indeed a roleblocker, then PBuG logically won't be able to copy me. If PBuG does copy me, then it's obvious Chaos is lying, and then he can use my one vig shot to take out Chaos. The only thing I don't like about this plan is that I'm not certain whether or not PBuG would get a vig shot. PBuG - do you copy roles as they are now, or as they started out? Or is your role description not so explicit?

[inHimshallibe]

there is one problem to you plan... your losing two towines durring the night.

I want this explained.

using the roleblocker on the confirmed townie wont help the town because he cant block scum.

We don't know for sure that PBuG is confirmed, so perhaps we hit scum. I mean, of course PBuG's going to confirm a known role if he is scum - read as Bacde being Mr. Game & Watch. This plan will confirm the roleblocker one way or another.

that plan makes me want to change my vote back to inhim

Whatever. You not thinking through what I'm actually proposing is not helping the Town at all.

[inHimshallibe]

I'm not against being blocked. I just don't want the block wasted. You having a no kill from me is pointless, because I can't contribute anything more, and does nothing to clear whoever blocked me. I'm going to have to be killed/lynched eventually to show the Town my honesty and the dealings on Night 1 activities, which will hopefully catch us scum. And SO's claim freaks me out, a little bit. Imagine if he were a bad guy, and the charge up took out more than one player .

unvote

- Thinking back, a vote shouldn't be placed here, yet.

[inHimshallibe]

Lynch Count - Day 1

7

indentureddjinn

- armlx,

Bacde

, inhimshallibe,

Iammars

,

rajrhcpfreak

,

NanookTheWolf

,

PBuG

3

Bacde

- Chaos, SinisterOverlord,

indentureddjinn

1

Iammars

- Someone
1

NanookTheWolf

-

NanookTheWolf

Not voting:

Assasin

Scum

Confirmed Town

Near Confirmed - based upon results

Claimed Masons

I'm rethinking my stance on the ID wagon. The first vote isn't always as telling as the second vote.

vote: armlx

, because I refuse to believe there aren't any scum on the ID vote.

Although, and I'm throwing this out there... we could test the masons by lynching Nana. Also, there's no saying whether or not Blackberry's role could function as a pro-town or anti-town role. Although I believe the claim, I'm not sure on alignment. And then I fear SO for my previous thoughts.

So these are my picks, in order - armlx, Blackberry, SO, or the Nana mason (which should still be a toss-up.)

[inHimshallibe]

So I'd obviously be volunteering to have myself lynched.

[inHimshallibe]

Sigh... I really am going to have to be lynched to lead you all to victory.

[inHimshallibe]

I have a question, that is really bothering me. If I were a vig and someone else claimed vig it would scream "SCUM!" to me.

Inhim, why do you buy SO's claim for the moment?
You put him at the lower end of your suspect list?

I'm only a one-shot vig. I do have him listed as a suspect, though.

[inHimshallibe]

I'm not going to switch, since the deadline is tomorrow. I suggest we take this time and clear up any concerns we have with the plans.

back to my #1 scum choice.

unvote inhim

vote SO

(emphasis mine)

Just wanted to share that I'm amused by this.

[inHimshallibe]

Lynch Count - Day 1

7

indentureddjinn

- armlx,

Bacde

, inhimshallibe,

Iammars

,

rajrhcpfreak

,

NanookTheWolf

,

PBuG

3

Bacde

-

Chaos

,

SinisterOverlord

,

indentureddjinn

1

Iammars

- Someone
1

NanookTheWolf

-

NanookTheWolf

Not voting:

Assasin

Scum

Confirmed Town

Near Confirmed - based upon results

Claimed Masons

I'm willing to call Bacde 100% confirmed based on the votes. Iammars, I'd like to know which Ice Climber you are - I mentioned that I still thought it was up in the air. I guess it's

possible

that Blackberry's role is anti-town, but for some reason I don't think this is the case. And, who has to vote themself Today? To note, it's

also possible

that PBuG is scum, but, once again, I doubt this.

vote: armlx

[inHimshallibe]

And I've had my post set up since after much consideration throughout the Night, save last Night's death.

[inHimshallibe]

I think the only thing that one's good for looking at is my vote on armlx. If I'm scum, then it decreases his likelihood of being scum, also. But, I'm not, so it's not that much of an aid, at the moment. I appreciate you doing the work, though, Bacde. As I've see before - :thumbup:

[inHimshallibe]

Oh, and check V/LA, please.

[inHimshallibe]

Proving an ability doesn't prove one is town, though. We had this discussion in chat just last night/this morning .

Your thoughts on the recruitable mafia could be correct, as I don't think CA specified what he'd have the role to do. Perhaps Blackberry

is

the correct play for Today. I have more thinking to do.

[inHimshallibe]

Hmmm... I guess so.

unvote: armlx

I'll wait as long as I can on PBuG, but I'll have to vote tomorrow night regardless.

[inHimshallibe]

Not always does proof of ability confirm good alignment. I wouldn't be surprised if Fox is evil. And also, this doesn't necessarily confirm PBuG. This can be a scum role.

But, I'll give this all the benefit of a doubt, for now. Last words, Blackberry?

[inHimshallibe]

Interesting... PBuG really was Kirby.

Thank you much, CA!!!