You might get a pass for "royal pigs ear."PranaDevil wrote:Am I now? That's interesting, considering I'm not. Which means you're either really bad scum (you've been here about 6 years, I doubt that), or you're town and have made a right royal pigs ear of something.
Only information I've got on you are posts.So no, I'm not scum, and I don't even think you are, you're town with a role that's giving you false information of some kind.
Your vote is the cat in this equation.Not entirely sure what you're hinting with "feeble cat" either, whether it's you or me. But if the thing that I am is a cat, I'm a dinosaur.
I thought this was obvious once you mentioned you were Blind.Glork wrote:....Wondering if the "Miss" in the vote count is me being blind.
:bigredx:Nautilius wrote:Zodiark = town.
Mostly this. It also has to do with Zodiark ignoring everything but FF.Glork wrote:I'll answer this on inHim's behalf.Zodiark13 wrote:Explain please.If you want my opinion, I'd say it was even slightly scummy.
You've decided to show off your FF knowledge and have doneapproximatelyexactly zero scumhunting.
lolZodiark13 wrote:Right now, I'd probably keep my vote on Glork. His attacks on me seem OMGUS to me. To be perfectly honest, I don't have any immediate suspicions, although, it seems like Nautilus is trying to buddy me.
DarkLightA wrote:sure, why not...
Vote: PranaDevil
As good as others.
no thoughts on alignment yet.This seems bad.Chronopie wrote:Wow, just Wow.
Dram calling Ultros a fakeclaimandelement fishing.
FoS: Dramonic
I think Prana has shown us plenty of his mind of late.FC Groningen wrote:There are still some guys that haven't voted yet, including Prana. How about we ask them to show a piece of their minds first? I would like to see who you expect and why Prana.
Pretty sure this is the only post of Glork's that would cause any bit of paranoia; having restated his point a few times, I can feel a possible "BG in video game, but GG in mafia game" claim set-up. The rest of his play seems pro-town to me, nothing to be alarmed about.Glork wrote:I guess I draw different lines when it comes to flavor discussions. I've seen more than enough games go both ways that I never head into a game with premonitions that "good = protown" (or otherwise, for that matter). Even if site meta says "good guys tend to be protown," I feel that each game is independent of the last. I don't think a sitewide meta applies to this particular issue, but we may have to agree to disagree.Iecerint wrote:I don't disagree with you in principle, but you're overstating it a little. Namely, it's not impossible that scum lack fakeclaims in a mini where the number of potentials roles are as large as this, and pro-town roles in-game tend on average to map onto pro-town on MS (high profile exception like HP mafia sort-of notwithstanding).Glork wrote:The good/bad nature of ANY character from the video games hasNOTHINGto do with their alignment in this game. The only use for flavor is to figure out who committed what actions, or who may be lying about their own actions.
Kdub +town points here.Kdub wrote:But aren't you saying the same thing, just in the opposite sense? You are saying someone is likely town for flavor reasons (they claimed a good guy), then you say other flavor (the lightning thing) is not a good reason to suspect him. That is what I was getting at.PranaDevil wrote:It's like you're saying flavour in one direction is "good" and flavour in another direction is "bad".
FWIW, I don't really agree with Glork's argument here. We have evidence from the flips of two players that alignment in this game is related to flavor. It's not proof that all characters follow this, but it's more likely than not.
Sorry about not responding until now. I'm in line for a transfer to Nashville, which is really more exciting and pressing of an issue at this time. Response coming now.FC Groningen wrote:He did, but all he did was respond on the subject of flavor. I don't exactly get who he'd be willing to vote and why. Also, where is your promised reply "after work"?inHimshallibe wrote:I think Prana has shown us plenty of his mind of late.FC Groningen wrote:There are still some guys that haven't voted yet, including Prana. How about we ask them to show a piece of their minds first? I would like to see who you expect and why Prana.
Totally baseless, and putting words into another player's mouth.Chronopie wrote:It was mostly Iecerint's Appeal to Glitch as a flavor based defense, which, as I said, stinks of:i.e. Iecerint had no real defence. baring wifom and irrelevant bug trivia. Thus my suspicions were re-awakened.Oh shit, I've been rumbled. Think up an excuse.
Not where I would expect a scum to go, to be quite honest. Rethinking my :stonecoldlock: for a bit...PranaDevil wrote:Okay, a quick re-read of things... and Zodiark stands out to me, he came in, had a couple of posts talking about possible characters which didn't really help us any, followed that up with a bunch of nothing posts, and ends with what still amounts to nothing, even more so with using "OMGUS" as a reason why he would be voted by Glork.
vote: Zodiark
Been MIA since Tuesday morning, and hasn't really contributed as yet.
FOSing setup speculators is too easy. Stop being lazy town, or give us one of your partner's names, imo.WorseExcuse wrote:bill is right on Chronopie flip-flopping. In oe post, he FOS's dramonic, then 2 posts later, is happy with him.
AlsoFOS: SETUP SPECULATORSbecause unles sits been mod confirmed that flavour actually counts for something other than flavour, its always safest to assume it's just flavour.
Oh, nevermind. PD still probable scum. Make up your mind more often, tia.PranaDevil wrote:Exactly what FC just said... hell, I said it in that post above you, and you just avoided it completely. Zodiark has offered us zero this entire game, but has made it "appear" like he has. That's scummy as far as I'm concerned.Antifinity wrote:PranaDevil wrote:Okay, a quick re-read of things... and Zodiark stands out to me, he came in, had a couple of posts talking about possible characters which didn't really help us any, followed that up with a bunch of nothing posts, and ends with what still amounts to nothing, even more so with using "OMGUS" as a reason why he would be voted by Glork.
vote: Zodiark
Been MIA since Tuesday morning, and hasn't really contributed as yet.Vote PranaDevil
I don't see why we need to vote for Zodiark, just because he's lurking, especially with more suspicious targets like Glork or Icerint.
Glork, the only reason I suspect you is the blind thing, it just seems far too convenient, and I think it seems likely that if he does have some sort of ability based on the games, then it would be a reaction ability.
The idea that Icerint might be a jester doesn't add up to me, for one, it doesn't fit the flavor, and secondly, his 'only kill me after killing another scum' rule seems to directly go against a goal of being killed as quickly as possibly.[/b]
Glork I'm unsure of, as it's possible he was inflicted with blind deliberately. However it's possible it was a reactionary based ability through him attacking someone (Possibly Ultros) at night.
Iecerint, I'm still unsure of, and I definitely don't feel he's a jester, purely because they rarely appear, plus there's the fact that it would be a severely big gamble to claim someone who could be scummy this early on. Again, not going to say he's not scum, and I'm still considering him, and would happily vote for a wagon on either of Glork or Iec, I just feel Zodiark is scummiest right now.
I think some people are wrongly thinking that just because you have your vote in one direction, it doesn't mean you don't consider others to be scummy.
Still,FoS: Antifinityfor really making a balls up of my reasons for voting Zodiark, and claiming it's all about lurking, instead of the obvious, namely what I actually said.
If I'm voting for anyone else Today, it's this guy.Chronopie wrote:if he's been posting elsewhere, that's cause for an accusation of active lurking. Are we policy lynching now?
Unvote, Vote: Zodiark
bw go
See, IGlork wrote:Zodiarkwagon is :goodposting:... let's make the fucker claim when he gets back.
Still like Iece and Antifinity as alternates, but I'm digging this wagon.
You're not really Ultros, are you...Iecerint wrote:My guess is that it's a Doom countdown. Either whoever was Doom'd N1 will die at 0, or it ends the day, or it lynches whoever is at majority. The first of those is most plausible.
If that's the case, I'd say that we can probably look at whoever made early votes, but Glork, Prana, and I did almost all of it. :(
Someone not named PranaDevil help me out. Does Blind auto-miss, or is there a chance for hit?PranaDevil wrote:Wolf, vote someone, anyone, I don't care who. If your vote sticks, then you're not blind, if you refuse to vote, you're not blind. If you vote and it doesn't up someone's vote count, then you have been blinded.
This Doom issue is something we need to look further into Today. Especially looking at those tossing votes around early, before Starbuck even entered the picture. Specifically Glork, as he voted more than once in that time period, along with any others voting multiple times - it's pretty easy to look up, but I'll go hunting for that after I do some more office work.Devotress wrote:I wonder if we someone might have been able to cure doom had starbuck claimed she was doomed right away? I think a role that was just a person with a full item bag that can cure various status ailments would be kind of neat. This is all a hindsight thing of course, but if someone get's doomed again Tomorrow, claim first post.
They're called reads.Antifinity wrote:I assumed you were admitting to being an investigative role there. I don't want anyone else to claim their role, I just don't see how we are supposed to trust Glork's "Chrono is innocent" if it isn't backed by anything.