Rapture Mafia - Over!

[Chronopie]

Vote: Fate

for being a member of the 'Screaming Death Clan'

[Chronopie]

Also ani, I don't think we've actually

played

in a game together, although you are modding Ratchet deadlocked.

[Chronopie]

I can just imagine scum pooling for (unlimited) wrench jockey now.

Nevertheless, I still like the idea. ofc that person will become target #1 that night.

[Chronopie]

Oh, I remember now, that game in which you (hydra) haven't really posted in despite it having a good few pages. [/offtopic-edge-of-MKable-territory]

Vote: Ani

[Chronopie]

@Mod: as of post directly above vote count, I'm voting Ani

Fixed.

[Chronopie]

We could always BW someone who hasn't posted...

Like Nacho.

[Chronopie]

chainsaw bw attempt?

[Chronopie]

Fos: Chainsaw BW gang

I found us some scum on Page 3. whoo!

[Chronopie]

You mean drives should shift from an RVS-Chrono vote to a Serious-Chrono vote?

[Chronopie]

Seriously guys?

4/10 votes to lynch. of 18.

And I'm not even going to get a chance to use any of this tasty tasty adam that I've heard all about...

[Chronopie]

Kill that baby. Now.
Or at least shrink it.

This. Baby breaks page width.

[Chronopie]

Says the person who started the chainsaw bandwagon.

[Chronopie]

Whoo! we no longer have to look at a stretched page.

And cmar, don't stretch this one please. It's anti-town.

[Chronopie]

-.-

It was a "I doesn't has teh adams'

learn to read.

[Chronopie]

WE HAVE A... Fail?

And I'm not even going to get a chance to use any of this tasty tasty adam that I've

heard

all about...

[Chronopie]

^ If I had some adam, I'd

use

it to buy something.

[Chronopie]

Maybe a target dummy. -.-

[Chronopie]

I really need to work on that.

Condense all my thoughts into one post, instead of posting stream of consciousness style.

ofc having had two energy drinks inside an hour shortly prior to my spamming session can't have helped. It happened over all my games btw, not limited to this one.

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So (apart from my excessive posting), who/what do you find scummy in this game toon? everyone?

[Chronopie]

# How much experience do you have playing mafia? Please include any off site forums which you play to.
# What would you say is your scum meta is?
# What would you say your town meta is?
# Someone just got quicklynched, and is town. What do you do?
# Same situation, but quicklynched is scum.
# Your #1 scum read got NK'ed last night, and you have no reads on anyone else, and it's LYLO. What do you do?

Very little (1 complete, 5 ongoing), no offsite.

No idea, no completed games as scum

Almost no idea, looked newb (was first game - got lynched for being newb)

Fos: quicklynchers

Iso reread scum lynch for bad play / buddying

Iso read any past scum flips and look for connections to live players, ditto town flips, suspicions.

[Chronopie]

Brilliant, two people posting

lots

of nice pictures and and useful, content-filled discussion[/sarcasm]

Seriously guys, knock it off. You aren't helping anyone.

[Chronopie]

I read it all. While I understand the underlying sentiments, Fluff posting is fluff posting, lots of posts = lots of fluff.

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We need to get past the unhelpful stage and actually find scum, and

CryMeARiver: to hell with answering your questions. None of them are scum-hunting.

doesn't help either. hypocrite.

I tend to wax sarcastic rather than rant.

[Chronopie]

As does one line fluff, about other fluff, that was at least posted alongside a critique of another players fluffyness.

[Chronopie]

^Was directed at reckoner

[Chronopie]

afaik adam allows you to buy abilities from the mod via pm.

I think that sorasgoof and I got the same PM, given what s/he said.

[Chronopie]

"What the fuck? Did Fate just have an argument with himself? Is that scummy? I don't even know"-Random next poster

This, although I'd call it some sort of schizophrenia.

[Chronopie]

I'd tend to agree with KoC, Misrep can be committed as easily by a townie, as by scum.

Therefore I'd tend to believe that SpyreX is the

least

scummy of the three. blatant bandwagon w/out any reason is more of a scumtell.

reckoner followed fate, who followed Spyre, who misrepped.

[Chronopie]

ditto

[Chronopie]

It's called fluff posting. Derp, is fluff, Sorasgoof, is fluffy.

New policy lynch LaF, Lynch all fluffy-posters.

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SpyreX is town

Soras is not

Fate and Reck are sheep. (seems I made a similar accusation, about some of the same players, in another game not too long ago)

ntl

Unvote, Vote: Sorasgoof

[Chronopie]

I guess Fate != Kise then lol.

[Chronopie]

@Nacho: Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench (10,924 meters (35,840 feet) below sea level.)

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@Kise: I loled, but it's true.

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Lets hear from the lurkers. Seriously considering LaL(urkers).

[Chronopie]

You guys appear to have forgotten the Wrench Jockey (empowered) ability. That's more a mafia oriented power than ninja.

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I find myself agreeing with reckoner, spyre et al. in this game. I dislike sheep, but I can see myself becoming one

[Chronopie]

lynch all *unconfirmable* (99.999% of all) doctor claims

[Chronopie]

An outed doc will not serve any use at this point in time, and is likely to be an NK magnet. Therefore we shouldn't bother lynching him.

Upside, He blocks some potential kills. OTOH upside, Mafia Kills him, instead of some more useful PRs. Wait... Upsides all round

Meantime, we can treat him as semi-confirmed, until we have a cc (not endorsing a cc atm).

Meantime, lets lynch some scum. Vote for Sorasgoof everybody.

[Chronopie]

I'd be up for lynching one of the lurkers, or anyone at this point. Activity level is shocking.

We're only just out of RVS. It's been 12 days. (ofc deadline isn't for another 4 weeks.)

Moar discussion, or a lynchin. Either is good.

[Chronopie]

To be honest, the Chronopie wagon makes zero sense to me. @RedCoyote, what makes a Chronopie lynch more appealing than any of the other three wagons?

Sorry I missed this.

Chrono made a strange comment about ADAM that was seemingly okay on the outside until horrordude defended him completely out of the blue. horrordude has made, like, three posts in this game. One was confirming, his last one was asking if there was anything he should respond to, and the one inbetween these two posts was this:

Yo Red please tell me I'm not insane and that reads "I've got adam" for no reason and help me push this train all the way out of the station.

Not really... [Chrono] said that he wants to get the chance to use the adam he's HEARD about, not has.

Ever since horrordude made this uncalled for post, he has effectively disappeared when I asked him to elaborate. Chrono has completely dodged me, despite the fact that I asked him to comment on it. Chrono went from having a strong voice in the town to a meek one (more on this later in the post I'm writing here), and I contend that all of this isn't a coincidence. Maybe horrordude abandoning the game is par for the course, but I think that Chrono's vauge, aimless posts as of late are intentional. He understands that he needs to stay more under the radar, and if a player like sora or a bunch of lurkers are going to take all the heat in this game, hell, why should he knock that?

That's not to say sora or the lurkers don't deserve a tongue lashing and/or lynching, but I just think there might be something deeper here than we are being led to believe.

I happen to believe that Sora/Lurkers are our best lynch for today, the 'Vague, Aimless posts' are basically me just chiming in with my 2 cents on the game state. I have no idea why Horrordude did what he did, and, if anything, has made me look scummier by implication. Staying under the radar is just a side effect of me having little else to say.

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I'd be up for lynching one of the lurkers, or anyone at this point. Activity level is shocking.

We're only just out of RVS. It's been 12 days. (ofc deadline isn't for another 4 weeks.)

What have you had to say about Nacho's entry into the game? Nothing.
What do you have to say about you and Drives erronously taking KoC's claim seriously? Nothing.
What do you have to say about Drives' defeatism? Nothing.

I've had nothing to say on Nacho so far, because they wasn't alot to say. He hadn't noticed the game, apologised, posts some minor analysis, posts some fluff, posts some more content, fluff, V/LA announcement.
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KoC's claim was terribad for anyone that hasn't seen the new Dr. Who series, so was a fair assumption to make. However, I never considered it voteworthy, and made a jokey reference to it. i.e not seriously.
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Drives's defeatism... 'Screw it, I'm a townie that's going to die' bleh, I feel like that in some games. Probably too early for Drives to be posting in such manner though.

This is revealing, I think:

I find myself agreeing with reckoner, spyre et al. in this game. I dislike sheep, but I can see myself becoming one

So don't try to feed us this line that there is nothing going on, and

especially

don't try to feed us this line that we're "just out of the RVS". I'll wage dollars to donuts that you're more clever than you're letting on. That's exactly what Drives did ("there's nothing going on", "we're barely out of RVS"), only he was more blunt about it. The difference between my opinion on Drives and you? I think Drives is town.

The game has been dead slow, and I find myself agreeing with the above, who also happen to be some of the most active players. But 3-5 players can not carry an entire 18 player game.
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Subtract the Jokes, and the fluff, and there's probably only about 1-2 pages of content. therefore other (more active) games, given a similar length of time, have much more content available to peruse. Therefore, we are, relatively speaking, barely out of RVS

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I'm willing to eat hats if Drives is scum. He reeks town in that way that only town can reek.

I think Drives is town as well. MehPlusRawr is, I would say, a safe bet for town, too.

I agree with the first, unsure on the second

It's the players like Chrono that tickle my fancy.

I won't go as far as to say that I can't lynch Drives, not in a game like this. If this were a smaller game, then by all means we'll try to give Drives a hand, but this is a little different.

A game with 18 players players, with < half active, we can waste a lynch or two.

Let's keep it within the proper context though. There are so many players I'd like to see taken out over someone like Drives that it's hard to imagine a circumstance where I'd get on his wagon willingly.

ditto

[Chronopie]

I SEE YOU SIGNING UP FOR GAMES SCUM COME HERE AND POST

Was this to me? Cos you posted it shortly before /inning for a game.

1) Check the time stamps, ^ quote was 3 hours after my /in post.

2) I'm not scum [/wifom]

3) please no moar screaming Death Clan, had to kill you for that before already [/ongoing - we're both dead in that game]

[Chronopie]

So yeah, in conclusion, Chrono is acting more like the scum meta I have of him than Soras is.

uhh... Remind me if/when we've ever had a Chrono-town game together?

I count 1 Fate + Chrono-scum game, 0 Fate + Chrono-town games.

Stop trying to use a non-existant meta comparison.

FoS: Fate

[Chronopie]

Alright guys, run up an already claimed VT.

Note though: Horrordude's unnecessary coming to my adamless defence, KoC for various slips, sora's defeated stance, and probably some other bits I've missed.

[Chronopie]

I assume you found the 0 adam post, and checked the VT pm in the post #2.

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Rehashing what others write isn't my style Fate.

But, just for you.

KoC's slips

KoC in 193 you lay out the path to why this is really troubling yet don't throw the vote it makes me

Did I not vote? I swear to God I intended to put a vote down after my second post on soras.

Distancing?

and a number of fluff posts...

Most of them Doctor Who references.

Actually, fuck it. KoC is town. He makes some good points.

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Bv, MPR are lurky, deathsauce is fluffy, Nacho is ?, sora is defeatist, and Cmar is active lurky.

[Chronopie]

Well alignment is more difficult than play to determine obv.

But I'm guessing at least one of those, maybe two, are scum.

[Chronopie]

-.- Well that was the intention. I have 0 adam, and am a VT. ergo, I assumed that VTs have 0 adam, and the scum (whom I'm guessing are splicers) have >0 adam. Wasn't sure about PRs.

Who said only VTs had 0 adam? You thought that by saying you had 0 adam that was claiming VT?

Is that a PR w/ 0 adam claim fate? Or a scum claim?

and what does ***ing translate to?

[Chronopie]

I would expect f-ing to have 4 asterisks.

More scum-fishing than role fishing.

[Chronopie]

Sorry about that, Had to go have a shower.

So I'm meant to vote for you? okay, because you asked

Unvote, Vote: Fate

*this vote does not reflect my opinion on Fate's alignment*

[Chronopie]

I figured that disclaimers would function as well.

[Chronopie]

FTR: Fates Town to me. He asked for the vote -.-

**Guess I'll go back to using sarcasm tags...**

[Chronopie]

Die,

scum!

Townie.

fix'd

[Chronopie]

Do a favour to a dead townie...

Lynch the idiot.

[Chronopie]

Me? I'm genuine townie, and not a blue alt. I've played a game w/ blue though.

[Chronopie]

You could now at least role claim, your dead

To clarify. This idiot.

[Chronopie]

Wait? What? I'm not lynched?!?

Unvote, Vote: Drives

asking for a post-death role claim

after

I'd already claimed...

[Chronopie]

Big daddies are protector's I guess. But I'd've thought bodyguard, not doc, based on role name.

[Chronopie]

Someone vote me so I can hammer myself. This town deserves to lose.

But we vote for drives the idiot tomorrow.

Unvote, Vote: Sorasgoof

[Chronopie]

My playstyle doesn't change (much) when I'm scum or town. I just know which targets are mislynches as scum.

[Chronopie]

Quad posted for emphasis?

But you're right, active lurker alert.

[Chronopie]

I dislike those willing to make a 1:1 trade, such as Kise is offering. We either lose 2 townies (high % probability), or scum is making a gambit. Never the less, Would Bv310 please weigh in on this? seeing as he's the other party.

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: what's more, if Bv and Kise are both town, it would allow any scum to hide behind a kise wagon, using his own 1:1 trade as explanation.

[Chronopie]

So... wait? What is the best wagon to join, Mr. Nacho?

Vote: CMAR

If you aren't voting for him after you read this post, you had better have a DAMN good reason.

I remember my first newbie game... (911)

[Chronopie]

Thoughts on don being active lurker?

[Chronopie]

I don't see the reasons for a Bv wagon/lynch.

Will post more later.

[Chronopie]

Hey look. It's later and I'm posting stuff.

at the time when I posted that I didn't see a reason for a Bv wagon, the iso only comprised #0-9

#0 Votes Horrordude.
#1 'please don't'
#2 catching up
#3 promises to post
#4 Votes MPR for poor iso read

#5 Content!

#6 refutes Horror's claim of a Bv lead PL (actually Rvs)
#7 Catch up post, Fos's Sora
#8 Fluff
#9 Votes TF

since then

#10 Flavor discussion on why Big Daddies =/= Docs
#11 If the doc survives, its a lie or scum fakeclaim.
#12 Askes for explanation of anti-town accusations.
#13 wouldn't believe sora's doc claim in Lylo.

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Bv looks like a normal, contributing (active) townsperson to me.

[Chronopie]

So care to point out the ultra scummy parts of the iso (That I must have missed) that makes you willing to make a 1:1 trade?

[Chronopie]

The scummiest action on day one award goes to... <drum roll> don_johnson!

But seriously, asking for a modkill on the basis that a flip will tell us something?

afaik: 1) Modkills end the day

2) anyone modkilled becomes neutral survivor, so we don't see what side they were on.

Unvote, Vote: d_j

[Chronopie]

Posting all in caps will not cause people to adopt your way of view (unless you're Fate)

Also, AtE noted.

@Mod: What happens on a mod-kill? Day end? actual role/alignment Flip? Neutral survivor flip?

Neutral survivor flip, autoloss for player

[Chronopie]

I have exazctly the opposite reaction to CMAR, Big Daddies are killing machines, doc makes little/no sense.

However, big daddy flavor discussion is going nowhere productive.

[Chronopie]

A 30 page D1 and counting. With 7 days until deadline.

Unvote, Vote: Horrordude

I'm losing sight of the goal guys. I'm willing to vote/hammer absolutely anyone at this point.

[Chronopie]

unvote, Vote: TF

Teh hammer.

Finally, it's over. D1 is over.

[Chronopie]

The leadhead splicers have pistols. That would be a yes.

[Chronopie]

So why is it not fluff?

[Chronopie]

You had adam? Well SpyreX =/= VT

[Chronopie]

Because I don't have adam, and I am VT, therefore, if spyre had some stolen, he had some to begin with, therefore, not VT.

1+1 = 2

[Chronopie]

@Elli/Diacria (whichever acc your using to next view this): Try using standard on one account, and 'Tigers' or w/e on the other.

I heard that

Vote:KoC

is the right thing to be doing right noaw.

[Chronopie]

I'd be okay with that. He's at L-2 atm.

Votecount

Knight of Cydonia (7): Nachomamma8, Fate, SpyreX, Diacria, Chronopie, CryMeARiver, don_johnson
xRECKONERx (2): DeathSauce, xRECKONERx
Diacria (2): sorasgoof, horrordude0215
CryMeARiver (2): RedCoyote, Kise

Not Voting: bv310, WingsOWisdom, Knight of Cydonia

With

16

alive it will take

9

to lynch.

Deadline:

1st June

[Chronopie]

@KoC: Were you told what abilities a little sister actually has? or is it just Backup LS, no moar info?

[Chronopie]

Nice misrep. I don't believe Soras' claim because a Big Daddy makes fuck all sense as a Doctor, which is what he claimed it as. Bodyguard, Vig, yeah, fine. But BIG DADDIES DON'T HEAL PEOPLE.

DeathSauce: too far. Way too far.

These.

[Chronopie]

Harvest and immediate dispersal?

They're just middlemen, no actual ownership involved?

[Chronopie]

In other news, I believe KoC's claim

Unvote

[Chronopie]

I would like to point you both to this post.

@Reckoner and Deathsauce. This is going too far and you need to back off (the personal attacks) now.
I will

not

be used as a tool to get modkills either.
Push this further and you will both be force-replaced.

Now knock it off.

[Chronopie]

Why is it that I always log on

After

the exciting parts of the day. I sound like a parrot.

Vote: Bv310

[Chronopie]

So join it. He's lacking in content, made a phoney-sounding claim, and needs to die.

[Chronopie]

Sorry, my interest levels in this game are actually fairly low by comparison. I can't bring myself to give a fuck.

This.

[Chronopie]

@ADAM Stealer, target me, for the good of the town, kthxbye.

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@Kise: I like the avatar.

[Chronopie]

Unvote, Vote: Soras

I never saw a Big Daddy as a Doc ftr. and I said as much. Bodyguard: yes, killing role: yes, Doc: No.

Lynch him.

[Chronopie]

@RC:

I have 0 adam, and am a VT. ergo, I assumed that VTs have 0 adam, and the scum (whom I'm guessing are splicers) have >0 adam. Wasn't sure about PRs.

Therefore, should an adam stealer target me, they would get nothing, which would benefit the town, because none of the town roles w/ adam get it stolen.

[Chronopie]

Potential guilty is going V/LA? hmm... convenient.

[Chronopie]

Fate has a Kise = scum? 'cos that's what it reads like.

Unvote, Vote: Kise

baaa.

[Chronopie]

Vote: Kise

That anti-town play of his was so bad, I want to lynch him again.

...

...

But that won't lead anywhere.

Unvote, Vote: Sorasgoof

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Time for random theory of the day: Maybe Little Sisters and Big Daddies are Mason pairs?

[Chronopie]

Fate's Rageposts are clearly coming from a pro town Viewpoint, so yes, sheep is apt. /baa

[Chronopie]

Wait, unsheeplike thought: Why are we lynching a claimed Doc again? We already know that Big Daddies are town...

[Chronopie]

Sounds a bit (a lot) like what happened in Pledge of Allegiance, where I was scum rolecop. ofc it was a nightless with Daytalk, but the parallel is still there.

[Chronopie]

I claimed vanilla D1.

[Chronopie]

Who still has to MC?

[Chronopie]

I've been told, In no uncertain terms, that I should be posting.

Just what... idk.

/prodded

AFAICT the lynch should be SpyreX? or Reck? One's claiming receiving adam, while the other is claiming to not have received adam that a Lil' sister sent...

And then there's Reck calling for a D_j lynch?

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18 player game. We have 10 alive. Given the default 25% scum balancing, that would suggest 4-5 scum total. We've had a splicer lynch. that would suggest 3-4/10 players are scum. So it's either 6:4 Mylo or 7:3. I'm guessing the lack of Spyre/reck bussing means 6:4.

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The OP needs updating btw, still list Caelum as a player.

ta

[Chronopie]

wtf? reck started with an adam?

Why don't

I

ever get cool things. -_-

Also, ftr: I didn't start with any adam, and haven't had any all game.

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Possible mylo is

why

I haven't voted.

[Chronopie]

Really? omg dude.