Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

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TOWN: DGB, Llama, Kitten, DDD, Oj.

##Vote; Jack

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And Para is probably Town too.

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In case previous formatting was screwy.

##Vote: Jack

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DGB from one the QT of ours ->

I have to agree... another SlySly... watch out if he seems townie!

^^^About reading Para.

I think he's town.

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##Vote: xvart

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Nico = town. DDD = town. Charter = town. Not sure on troll, Jack, VP. Leaning scum town scum respectively on those.
Xvart is scum.

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PARATOWN
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13460
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13942
PARASCUM
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13729
(Yes Para, I left out Killer's )

Why did you leave out Llama who's also been majorly pressing Llama town.

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I recall DGB and I calling Para town first. Whatevs.

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EBWOP: 238 should say Llama pressing Paratown.

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VP is town.

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LA until the 10th or 11th.
Right now I think that out of the 3 major wagons Phate and xvart are town. The latter wouldn't have been so stupidly stubborn on the whole QT shenanigans issue and certain things the former have said felt genuine.

xvart ( 8 ) Ellibereth LLamaFluff ojanen Nicodemus fishythefish charter UncertainKitten VP Baltar
I have a town read on everyone on the xvart wagon EXCEPT for...

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##Vote: Fishy

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It's not bad logic. That wagon had scum on it and I think everyone else there is town.

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Scan through past Large Themes. The early substantial wagons all have scum on them. At least I can't find one without.

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Is there any particular town read there that you dispute.

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Para is soooo town.

FISHY IS SCUM.
After getting confronted by the vote analysis, instead of trying to
1) Convince me he's town.
2) Convince me someone else on the wagon isn't town.
HE DISCREDITS IT.

PARA, JOIN US. WE'VE CAUGHT A BIG FISH.

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Yoyoyo.

Who wants me lynched and why? What can I get informed on briefly, because I have an AP test tomorrow I really ought to be cramming for?

Physics? I'm dieing...

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Skipped a few years in math/science.
You're what, a junior?

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Daykill looked pretty obv fake to me, but Pops is town, and so is Jack. Probably stranger too, and not sure on farside.
Whoever earlier said Red is scum is right! Scum. With Fishy.

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I thought that Jack was faking that.

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Yeah thats the conclusion ive come to. Now im just trying to figure out if

xvart

FISHY or RC should die first

Editted.
Go with the one we agree on?

Vote: Red

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##Vote: Red

I'm tempted to just ask all of them to claim. Reaaaally am. But not yet.

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This is where I'm at:

TOWN: charter, DDD, DGB, Elli, Jack, stranger, llama, Nico, Oj, Para, Phate, pops, UK, Plum.
SCUM: Fishy, Red
EVERYONE ELSE: chrono, d3x, far, gamma, imagine, shotty, xvart, Troll.

DGB Jack town vs. town should stop. And Chrono is funny.

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Deploy UAV: fishythefish

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FISHY FISHY FISHY FISHY

...but it looks like it'll be easier to get that wagon on RED.

##Vote: Red

There was also probably scum on that early Parama wagon. Let me go check:
Parama ( 5 ) xvart farside22 imaginality fishythefish VP Baltar

O LOOK WHO'S ON IT. There's Scum in farside, imagine, fishy.

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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##Vote: Fishy

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Fishy's point-gathering competitors should claim now.
Being forced to claim later will result in getting NUKED.

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OK

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I totally believe Fishy.
Thinking about massclaim...or mass-peoplewhoarenotobvtown-claim. Probably stupid idea.
Can someone compile a list of eveyrone voting Fishy, no time to do it myself right now.

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Llama 749 is godly and what I meant to do. Had a feeling some people on Fishy were Fishy. (hihihi)

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##Vote: Troll

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xvart ( 8 ) Ellibereth LLamaFluff ojanen Nicodemus fishythefish charter UncertainKitten VP Baltar

^^^There's probably more scum/other on this. Guessing Nico.

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Vig can shoot Nico.

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Fishy, who do you think is Scum/Other?

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Troll and Nico competing wagons go!

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##Vote: Nico

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@ Fishy

Why aren't you voting for Troll? Nico is not exactly a likely lynch today.

I have a hunch. Maybe wait on Troll a bit. Let me check

People, please ignore the below, thank you:

DGB, Fishy, Ellibereth.
Llama, farside, imagine.
DDD, Pops, Troll.
Jack, Chrono, Shotty.

Yeah. That next. Others are awesome. Gracias.

Okee

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Hmmmmmm.
Troll claim.

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When did this happen?

A few days ago.
Am I the only one that wants all the non-obvtown people to claim?

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ANNOUNCEMENT: Nico is officially lurking, he posted in at least one other game.

Claims should be done right and shouldn't be done piecemeal and I'd think that Ellibereth's been in a game with me at the right spot to know that.

I thought we argued over that.

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But but my gut is hating on Troll so much harder :O He IS a better lynch than fishy though.

TROLL AND NICO CAN BOTH DIE!
WIN WIN WIN!

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DGB, can we pleeeeeeease kill hardcore-lurker Nico today and have Troll be offed tonight or tomorrow.

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ALL THE PEOPLE NOT ON TROLL OR NICO MOVE YOUR VOTE TO ONE OF THEM.
Then we get them to both claim etc. etc.

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ALL THE PEOPLE NOT ON TROLL OR NICO MOVE YOUR VOTE TO ONE OF THEM.
Then we get them to both claim etc. etc.

Can you give me the short version of why you believe they are scum?
Nico in a current game going on I could see not picking scum because he really does play it poorly.

I trust DGB on troll.
Nico via the Xvart wagon, me knowing he lurks as scum, the rolefishing stuff earlier, and his whole Iso just feels wierd.

@Ellibereth, we shouldn't be having more people claim than we're going to be lynching claim today. Piecemeal claiming just gives scum more information for using their night actions.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Scum being forced to give fakeclaims is good. And you'd rather claim than die, no?

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I have to say this about rolefishing as a scumtell. I don't think I have ever observed a buddy rolefishing. I think that's a very weak scumtell, if it's even a scumtell.

Remember me in PYP?
Regardless, there was more non-town than fishy on this:

xvart ( 8 ) Ellibereth LLamaFluff ojanen Nicodemus fishythefish charter UncertainKitten VP Baltar

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Wait. Did Fishy say there were NINE of the point peoples or am I remembering wrong.

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OK

TOWN
charter
DDD
DGB
Elli
Llama
pops
UK
Plum
Gamma
Shotty
Jack
Ani
(Para)
(Oj)

SK
Troll

SCUM
Nico
d3x
Red

POINTS GROUP 1
farside
(xvart)

POINTS GROUP 2
Fishy
Imagine

POINTS GROUP 3
Stranger
Chrono

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From my experience with jack I think he would have picked town though. Don't remember where but i do remember him saying somewhere he liked town better. Teleporter maybe? (someone go look for me )

Rest looks good?

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Hi. Can anyone gives me a quick walk-through on how each person was found on that list?

Hey.
Does point collecting mean anything to you?

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Elli, why do you think I am in a points group?

Cuz' I do.
If all you non-neutral people just claimed it would make life easier for all of us ya' know.

Hi. Can anyone gives me a quick walk-through on how each person was found on that list?

Hey.
Does point collecting mean anything to you?

Nope.

Don't lie to me Ani...LAST CHANCE!

D3x is soooooooooooooo scum.

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I'm confused. You say I'm town in the post, but now say that I'm in a points group? What?

no now I am.
ADMIT IT AND WE CAN MOVE ON, SAME WITH YOU COUG. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN YOU POINTS PEOPLES.

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##Vote: Troll

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Ok I was right about Ani earlier and wrong now so yeah, the chart way earlier is right.

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I spell out a nice chart for y'all and this day is still going on?

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We only need something like 2 more votes, right?

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I know that the claim is almost definitely true.

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Instead of using him to shoot fishy, let's use him to try and smoke out the other point peoples, i.e. CLAIM YOU'RE A GOVERNMENT MEMBER NOW OR DIE BY SNIPING.
How much time until DL?

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I need to check something very important with the mod.
No lynching before I get a reply plz.

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Need to wait for zoraster...
I'd much rather have Troll aim at suspected point peoples than confirmed.

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@Elli: I'd rather resolve the Fishy thing first to at least half "prove" Zorb. And then point him at suspected gubmints.

I'm confirmed him right now.

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If anyone is a member of the GOVERNMENT, but also TOWN-ALIGNED, please say so.
Gracias.

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Troll, to my knowledge you don't have to worry about anything.
That's all I'll say, questions WILL NOT be answered, we'll talk about who you target tomorrow.

I'm fine with any hammerings now.

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Today is now tomorrow.

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##Vote: Nico

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I'm confused.
Who targeted who and what happened? >.<

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People NOT voting xvart at wagon height: Coyote, Jack, Gamma, DDD, xvart, imagine, Parama, phate, Cobalt, DGB, d3x, Jazz, pops, shotty.
Removing obvtown/town/not gov: Coyote, imagine, Phate, d3x, Stranger, Shotty

People NOT voting Fishy at wagon heigh: UK, Jack, Nico, fishy, phate, shotty, imagine, pops, chrono, llama, elli, plum
Removing etc.: Phate, shotty, imagine

Llama mentioned that Stranger can't be GOV. Apparently there's some obv explanation I'm missing. Until then, he is.

UPDATED.

TOWN
Charter
Chrono
DGB
Elli
Gamma
UK
pops
farside
Plum
DDD
Ani

SNIPER
Troll

OTHER 1
Fishy
imagine

OTHER 2
(xvart)
Coyote

OTHER 3
Shotty
Stranger

SCUM
d3x

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Fishy, is Imagine or Shotty your buddy? If so, say so NOW.

##Vote: d3x

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Shotty claimed points?
OK good.
Troll should shoot imagine IMO.

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Ok...so my chart was kinda right at least.
So, THE HUNT FOR THE BUDDY OF FISHY BEGINS

People NOT voting Fishy at wagon height: UK, Jack, Nico, fishy, phate, shotty, imagine, pops, chrono, llama, elli, plum
ONLY REMOVING CONFIRMED: UK, Ani, Imagine, Chrono, Plum
HM

D3x's buddy is also probably not on the most competent side of things. Who in the current player list would forget to post in QT in nightless game?

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Oh yeah, Troll, please don't shoot anyone before confirmed it with me plz.
Muchas gracias.

Ani for which one? d3 or fishy>?

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[quote="Fishy"]
People NOT voting Fishy at wagon height: UK, Jack, Nico, fishy, phate, shotty, imagine, pops, chrono, llama, elli, plum
ONLY REMOVING CONFIRMED: UK, Ani, Imagine, Chrono, Plum /quote]
OK.
So I think FIshy had transmitted something to both Chrono and Plum right? Probably real and not faked. UK claimed vig so prob not.
Leaves ANI, and IMAGINE.
IMAGINE already claimed TOWN, but I'll give him a chance to revoke.
My bet is on ANI for Fishy's partner right now. I'll give you a chance to claim. ~~~

Trollio, I kinda crumbed knowledge of your targets in my ISO 33. With that knowledge it should be easy to find. Let's just say if we work together we'll be friends. I have no obligation to get rid of you, or defend the government.

Algorithm stuff that leads to DGBscum confuses me.

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How many freaking neutrals are there...
Can all the other non-hostile neutrals just be dears and claim. Please???

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Secret Service Agent
Town Bodyguard
Protected Llama and Chrono
Will receive transmissions of who is NOT the sniper.
Apparently these come from troll's failed kills.
Standard town wincon, abs. nothing to do with Troll. Was bluffing to try and get him leashed but that didn't work out.

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Secret Service Agent
Town Bodyguard
Protected Llama and Chrono
Will receive transmissions of who is NOT the sniper.
Apparently these come from troll's failed kills.
Standard town wincon, abs. nothing to do with Troll. Was bluffing to try and get him leashed but that didn't work out.

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Secret Service Agent
Town Bodyguard
Protected Llama and Chrono
Will receive transmissions of who is NOT the sniper.
Apparently these come from troll's failed kills.
Standard town wincon, abs. nothing to do with Troll. Was bluffing to try and get him leashed but that didn't work out.

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I die if the person I'm protecting is targetted.
Protects as normal.

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@Ellibereth, and DrippingGoofball's chances of being government?

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

I believe whatever she said. So yeah, nil.

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@Ellibereth, you do realize that she's said that she's trying to figure out how many people fall into which alignments including unknown, right? She's claimed other already; if you're town why would you simply take her claim at face value? That seems unwise unless you've got some reason that you're not sharing.

I don't get your point. I don't think she's lying.

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oigetit!
Sorry, attention level lower than usual. Finals.
There are 6 gov right? Is there one missing?

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I wasn't paying attention.
The claim looked real when I skimmed though because I didn't think a GOV member would FAKECLAIM since it would be look obvobv after massclaims.
But that unknown thing is good.
So yeah.

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At school now.
Troll shot DGB too. she is not gov.