Mini 950: DCI Mafia (The Results Are In...)
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Ok, I am back from my V/LA and I am happy to have been replaced into this game. I thought I'd have Internet access at the Sheraton hotel, but apparently not. Should have a read through done soon enough. Not sure where my vote is now, but for now:UnvoteShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Reason "The Academy" is in red when he is just a "vanilla townie"? Is that a mistake or flavor that you can specify?Trumpet of Doom wrote:The corps representatives woke up the next morning feeling very refreshed... except for the ones that didn't wake up at all. When they were all assembled and it was discovered that they were missing an additional, not one, but two of their number, they wondered if the missing ones were merely sleeping in and decided to go see what the problem was.
NavyCherub was the first one they looked for. He was in his room, all right, with a gun in his hand pointed at his head and with a CD player playing B.B. King's greatest hits. Some wondered if it could be a suicide; others didn't think so, citing the location of the bullet hole (six inches from where the gun was pointing) as evidence, and suspected foul play. A quick search of his room revealed that, fittingly enough for a cherub, he'd been a member of The Academy.
When they got to Looker's room, though, a much different scene awaited them. Looker was lying face-up... spread-eagled... with a variety of pentagrams and circles carved into his torso. As he turned to leave, Nicodemus tripped over a pamphlet lying on the ground describing the Wilderness Survival merit badge for the Boy Scouts of America - opened to a page discussing how to track animals.
Oh, dear.
NavyCherub,The Academy,Vanilla Townie, Got the Blues Real Bad N1
Looker, Madison Scouts, Townie Tracker, Sacrificed N1
Day 2 begins!With 9 alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch and 3 to lynch at deadline.
Deadline:Monday, May 5, 2010, ~9:00 PM CDT (GMT-6+1)ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Wow, I have no idea how I missed that. Thanks for that StarbuckStarbuck wrote:He already specified it. The Color of who people are is the band's colors.
He says it in the post directly above that.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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At the moment, my biggest scumspect is Nikanor. His answers to the questions right up front made him very suspect in my mind. It seemed he was trying to dodge any questions on his strategy to me, possibly so he couldn't be held accountable for not following his supposed "strategy" later. He then asks a very serious question with his
He asks this, yet never refers back to it. He provides no case on ani and doesn't refer back to whether or not people weighed in on his question and what he thought of their opinions.Nikanor wrote:Who is opposed to an ani lynch today? I want everyone to weigh in on this. Failure to do so will put you at the top of my scumlist.
He then clearly bandwagons kunkstar for "active lurking and dodging". Seriously? He dodged the questions from the very beginning. At this point kunkstar has 10 posts with at least SOME quality, while Nikanor has 5 posts with nothing in them.
He then comes out of the closet of lurking and decides to make a bold statement.
His reasoning is that Parama is "way too over-confident to be town". This is hilarious since he has made two over-confident statements himself in saying "Parama is scum" and "Animorph is scum, I demand to know what everyone else thinks" Over-confidence is a null tell as well.Nikanor wrote:I have an announcement to make.
Parama is scum.
Carry on.
He then bandwagons animorph, has yet to provide any reasoning behind his suspicions of him, with the simple reason
The verdict is that he has had many contradictions with "dodging" "lurking" "overconfidence", about 7 fluff posts that would make him an "active lurker", been on both bandwagons, and is accusing people of being scum with absolutely no reasoning. Hey look, SCUM!Nikanor wrote:Unvote. Vote: ani.
I don't mind an ani lynch, and we really need to get the ball rolling.Vote: NikanorShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Not really apathetic, more V/LA a lot and many other things going on. As well as quite a few other games. Sorry for that.Nachomamma8 wrote:
Explain this, please.Parama wrote: I admit, I am ani's buddy. Townbuddies stick together.
CMAR: Your case is made less valid because of the general atmosphere of apathy yesterday. I do agree with the hypocrisy point though. I'd like for him to voice his opinion on Parama when he comes back, though.
Vote: NicodemusShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I love how Parama does the same thing I just bagged on Nikanor for doingParama wrote:Oh one thing.
Stepho is probably town.
Carry on.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I wasn't referring to the hypocrisy. I was referring to his "Parma is scum. Carry on." commentParama wrote:
BZZZZT Wrong. You called him out for hypocrisy. What my post is is my read on Stepho changing.CryMeARiver wrote:
I love how Parama does the same thing I just bagged on Nikanor for doingParama wrote:Oh one thing.
Stepho is probably town.
Carry on.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I didn't accuse you of being scum for it. I was just pointing out the irony. Get your panties out of a twist.Parama wrote:But that's not your case. Your case is that he's calling me scum for being overconfident while doing the same thing himself.
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I can't tell if you are joking. I haven't put forth an argument on you and you aren't one of my scumspects at the moment. I'm not backtracking anything. All I did was point out the irony in your post. Ahhh, now I see. You just wanted me to post another panties twist picture.Parama wrote:But you used it as an argument against me. Stop backtracking.
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I get your point. My case against Nikanor was that he was being hypocritical in his bold statements and all, but you think I shouldn't suspect you for something you did that was similar, but not the same at all because you weren't being a hypocrite, you were just being Parama. The only flaw is that I don't suspect you at all, I was just pointing out the irony in the similarity of your posts.Parama wrote:*headdesk*
I'm not continuing this if you're completely missing the point.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Hey look, a Parama compliment! That must mean it's good! CMAR is currently looking for a quote to put in his signature if you happen to have one Also, if anyone has noticed, Nikanor is also lurking at the moment. Just sayin...Parama wrote:Okay, sure, I'll accept that, especially since I still think your Nikanor argument is awesome.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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BoldedCryMeARiver wrote:
Hey look, a Parama compliment! That must mean it's good!Parama wrote:Okay, sure, I'll accept that, especially since I still think your Nikanor argument is awesome.CMAR is currently looking for a quote to put in his signature if you happen to haveone Also, if anyone has noticed, Nikanor is also lurking at the moment. Just sayin...
Btw, that was actually my next question Parama. You are a mind reader.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I'm almost positive that by this statement he meant "CMAR's points on Nikanor are good. I wasn't paying a lot of attention to Nikanor, but Nikanor does seem a little hypocritical." I think you misinterpreted it as "but CMAR does seem a little hypocritical."Nikanor wrote:You mean today? I posted in that game first because I didn't have a big wall to write in that game.
I only really did modding stuff yesterday, so you can't be talking about yesterday.
You're scum because you're a) not playing to your town meta; not only that, but not playing to your town meta in a scummy way, and b) fencesitting on whether or not I am scummy. Earlier today you said, "CMAR's points on Nikanor are actually pretty good, I wasn't really paying as much attention to him but he does seem a little hypocritical," which is classic fencesitting.
I still don't understand how one can provide a case on someone, then be voted for reasons such as "he's trying to hard to look helpful" but then go on to say he finds the guy the case was made on scummy.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Not to mention that if he wants to use meta on someone else, he is yet again being a hypocrite:Parama wrote:Also, Nikanor, you just used a meta argument didn't you.
I think you need to die several deaths. Meta is a lie.
Vote: Nikanor
For hypocrisy, for meta, for being scum.Nikanor wrote:2. I Lurk lurk lurk as scum.
If you are trying to use meta against someone else, you must qualify it to be used on yourself as well.
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Thanks for my sig quoteParama wrote:
You idiot. I can't argue against both cases if arguing against one makes me more guilty according to the other. That's my point. Once you and Nik agree on which of your cases is better, then I'll gladly tear it to shreds, because I have arguments against either case but no argument against both.Starbuck wrote:So you are going to ignore any and all cases on you?
That's pro-town
CMAR continues to own Nikanor.
Nikanor is very scummy. I don't see anything else. Also, this might be our last ML so I suggest we use it on a scummy target so we don't mess up if we are in lylo tomorrow.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I haven't given this game a lot of respect that past few day and haven't been posting, but I'm here and aliveNachomamma8 wrote:Mod: Starbuck, Kunkstar, CMAR, and Nico all need prods. Make it happen.
RE: Navy ISO: Out of everyone, I think it incriminates you and Slaxx the most; in fact, you even bringing it up makes me feel a bit more suspicious of you. Why? Well, mafia is ALWAYS hesitant to kill people who have them as their number one suspect. Rarely, however, are they nervous about killing someone who just happens to be their second suspect, especially if they are suspect someone else far more.
If kunkscum wanted to kill someone who suspected him, then it'd be a far better idea to kill Slaxx, no?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I realize that possibly two of the probable 3 scum were likely on the animorph wagon since it was easy to blend in there because it looked like town just trying to get a lynch in. I would like reasons for why you voted animorph and which post(s) you show this reasoning in.ToD wrote:Vote Count J:
animorpherv1 (5, L-2) -Nachomamma8, Nicodemus, NavyCherub, Slaxx, Nikanor
Looker (2, L-5) - Stephoscope, kunkstar7
Parama (2, L-5) - Starbuck, Looker
Slaxx (2, L-5) - animorpherv1, Parama
Not Voting (1): CryMeARiver
7 votes are required to lynch, 4 at deadline.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Could be if scum doesn't work well together. There was no need for all three to be on the wagon, he would have been lynched either way. It's just incriminating.Slaxx wrote:CMAR....How come 2? Could it not be all 3?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Wow, I completely forgot about this game :p
I am not scum. Due to lack of vote counts, how close am I to a lynch?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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This is a terribad answer.Nikanor wrote:
Well, this is not true. Honestly, I'm getting tired with answering the same "random" questions over and over. You try playing on this site for a year with over thirty completed games and see how thoroughly you answer those same questions.CMAR wrote:His answers to the questions right up front made him very suspect in my mind. It seemed he was trying to dodge any questions on his strategy to me, possibly so he couldn't be held accountable for not following his supposed "strategy" later.
Playing with new people comes going through the same routine. You dedicated time to answering the questions badly, you couldn't have taken 10 more minutes to answer them truthfully?
Yes you do. You can't just accuse random people without any reasoning.Nikanor wrote:
I don't need a case to put pressure on people. The reason for why I asked that was for future reference. The answers were useless until I knew ani's alignment.CMAR wrote:He asks this, yet never refers back to it. He provides no case on ani and doesn't refer back to whether or not people weighed in on his question and what he thought of their opinions.
What did the answers and his alignment show you oh king?
That's not what it sounded like. Either you actually thought that or you lied, your choice.Nikanor wrote:
This was to get people to answer. I'm not stupid enough to think that not answering a question is actually a scumtell.Nik wrote:Failure to do so will put you at the top of my scumlist.
That's even worse.Nikanor wrote:
I pointed out that Navy had dodged a question, not kunkstar. And I'd say that my posts were of higher quality than kunk's, but that's just my ego talking.CMAR wrote:He then clearly bandwagons kunkstar for "active lurking and dodging". Seriously? He dodged the questions from the very beginning. At this point kunkstar has 10 posts with at least SOME quality, while Nikanor has 5 posts with nothing in them.
You pointed out that Navy was dodging. Then you voted kunkstar with no reasoing, but clear bandwagoning.
What else could over confidence have meant? Still, none of this changes the fact that you were hypocritical.Nikanor wrote:
Okay, by over-confidence I mean confidence of unusual amounts. I say that stuff as town all the time, while Parama has not been this confident in any of his town games that I've read. I can provide links if you'd like.CMAR wrote:His reasoning is that Parama is "way too over-confident to be town". This is hilarious since he has made two over-confident statements himself in saying "Parama is scum" and "Animorph is scum, I demand to know what everyone else thinks" Over-confidence is a null tell as well.
This makes no sense.Nikanor wrote:
Nacho is mega ultra town.Nacho wrote:CMAR: Your case is made less valid because of the general atmosphere of apathy yesterday.
This surprised me. Distancing your buddy? Interesting tactic.Nikanor wrote:
WhySteth wrote:CryMeARiver, why would a scum act hypocritically at this point in the game?wouldn'ta scumbag act hypocritically? More importantly, why are you defending me?
Scum would act hypocritically because they have to lie. Town should not have to lie. Therefore scum has a better chance of being caught in their lie - hypocritical.
Again, this makes no sense.Nikanor wrote:
Zomg opportunistic.Parama wrote:But you used it as an argument against me. Stop backtracking.
Again, no case.Nikanor wrote:Vote: Parama.
Gogo scumlynch.
This is a good start. More to come as I read through.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Nikanor ISO2 wrote:Who is opposed to an ani lynch today?I wanteveryoneto weigh in on this. Failure to do so will put you at the top of my scumlist.Nikanor ISO4 wrote:Unvote.Vote: kunkstar7.
Active lurking. He has done zero scumhunting in the ~10 posts he's made in this game.
Obvious scum is obvious.Nikanor ISO6 wrote:I have an announcement to make.
Parama is scum.
Carry on.Nikanor ISO15 wrote:WHAT?!
Your statement was in direct response to CMAR's case on me. It had EVERYTHING to do with me and you most certainly WERE defending me!
Also, why is it that you don't think that scum would be hypocritical yet think that scum would misrepresent someone? How are those two different?
Unvote. Vote: Stethoscope.
Sccccuuuuuum.Nikanor ISO23 wrote:Wtf. I don't think I can do that. NACHO, YOU HAVE MADE ME STOP MY TUNNELING WAYS. FOR THAT I GIVE YOU A STRAWBERRY. ENOY IT PLEASE I CANNOT EAT THEM BEcause I'm giving them all aaaaaaawaaaaaaaayyyyyy!
Also, DUH DUB DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH! (Imagine Spock vs. Kirk in a bloody arena).
I don't know who the scujm is! I'm so lost.Nikanor ISO25 wrote:I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING I'M SO BAD AT SCUMHUNTING SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!! Sad
I'm seriously lost. I don't know who ANY of the scums are. I'm just stuck perpetually pushing random people. T_TNikanor ISO27 wrote:My God. I can't believe I actually wrote that last night.
Anyway,
Unvote. Vote: kunkstar.Even doing a quick read-through of his posts in iso doesn't give me any clues to why I thought he was not scum.
I've forgotten why I thought he was not scum.
So, bandwagon ahoy.Actually, now that I think about it, Nico is very likely to be scum.I don't see how else he's been allowed to lurk for this long.
Unvote. Vote: Nicodemus.
I'm thinkingNico+Starbuck+kunkstar. Don't ask me why. Nico is a much better lynch than the other two, though.
Sorry, but this was way to good to pass up.Nikanor ISO34 wrote:I wouldn't be too unhappy with a Starbuck lynch.We need more people to weigh in on stuff, though.
You know what?I think what we really need is a quickly-built reckless bandwagon with next to no reasoning attached.
Unvote. Vote:Starbuck.
ALL ABOARD THE STARBUCK EXPRESS! ANYONE WHO HAMMERS GETS A FREE NICKEL!
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This is very interesting. He accuses half the player list of being scum.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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That's funny. One of my main points though was that the only person he somehow says is town is Nachomama.Parama wrote:I thought this would be fun to do:
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You should have a signal for whenever you are being serious, because I can never tell.Parama wrote:Also, CMAR stop tunneling and outing yourself, it's embarrassing. I'm tempted to switch.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Screw this, I'm vanilla townie as well. I am thekunkstar7 wrote:
This is backtracking to a certain degree(Its backtracking because you said you weren't changing your vote, then you proceed to change your vote and present a plan that leaves your target alive till night). In the previous post you state that Starbuck is the scummiest player at the moment but you are willing to let her go and lynch a lesser suspect because you believe there is a townvig? Some things wrong with this. One, you chose to leave the player you just called scummiest alive for night, and two, you base your decisions on an unproven belief of a vig. There are way too many possibilities in a closed setup for you to be willing to give up your scummiest lynch because you hope there's a town PR that'll kill them off for you. I could see asking a vig to kill your lesser suspect, but the way you stated your plan is bad in my opinion.Parama wrote:Actually, new plan that makes everyone happy.
Lynch someone like CMAR or kunk, then have Starbuck get vigged tonight. Personally I think we can get more info out of a CMAR or kunk lynch than a Starbuck lynch, and both are nice and scummy anyways.
CMAR get that quote out of your sig
Vig: shoot Starbuck tonight
unvote, vote: kunkstar
Regarding Starbuck's claim, the only problem I have with it is its emotional wording. I for one find the early part of the VT claim as more of a nulltell, considering I have done that myself. I still believe CMAR is a better lynch right now (He's been hiding too much, and I find Nik's side in their argument better), but Nico brings up some interesting stuff on Nikanor that I didn't consider. CMAR > Nikanor > Starbuck.Colts. I originally had a Western theme, but I ran out of music to play and decided to diversify my music. I have no special abilities and when all other factions have left the game (or nothing can prevent it from happening, which idk how that can happen from a town perspective).ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Publicly posted? Where?Stephoscope wrote:
Why thank you for going into so much detail about a publicly-posted townie PM.CryMeARiver wrote:
Screw this, I'm vanilla townie as well. I am thekunkstar7 wrote:
This is backtracking to a certain degree(Its backtracking because you said you weren't changing your vote, then you proceed to change your vote and present a plan that leaves your target alive till night). In the previous post you state that Starbuck is the scummiest player at the moment but you are willing to let her go and lynch a lesser suspect because you believe there is a townvig? Some things wrong with this. One, you chose to leave the player you just called scummiest alive for night, and two, you base your decisions on an unproven belief of a vig. There are way too many possibilities in a closed setup for you to be willing to give up your scummiest lynch because you hope there's a town PR that'll kill them off for you. I could see asking a vig to kill your lesser suspect, but the way you stated your plan is bad in my opinion.Parama wrote:Actually, new plan that makes everyone happy.
Lynch someone like CMAR or kunk, then have Starbuck get vigged tonight. Personally I think we can get more info out of a CMAR or kunk lynch than a Starbuck lynch, and both are nice and scummy anyways.
CMAR get that quote out of your sig
Vig: shoot Starbuck tonight
unvote, vote: kunkstar
Regarding Starbuck's claim, the only problem I have with it is its emotional wording. I for one find the early part of the VT claim as more of a nulltell, considering I have done that myself. I still believe CMAR is a better lynch right now (He's been hiding too much, and I find Nik's side in their argument better), but Nico brings up some interesting stuff on Nikanor that I didn't consider. CMAR > Nikanor > Starbuck.Colts. I originally had a Western theme, but I ran out of music to play and decided to diversify my music. I have no special abilities and when all other factions have left the game (or nothing can prevent it from happening, which idk how that can happen from a town perspective).ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I'm seriously confused. I checked the Sample PM's before I wrote that last post and my claim is not there. I provided flavor info that came with my role and my troop name.Stephoscope wrote:
Riiight. You couldn't be bothered to check, you know, where townie PMs are normally posted.CryMeARiver wrote:Publicly posted? Where?
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BAHAHAHA THIS IS FUNNY REASONINGStephoscope wrote:
Yes. He made it look like it was copied/pasted, but it clearly wasn't. Because he had to type it to put in the fake info.kunkstar7 wrote:Steph, do you really believe that CMAR's claim is scummy because of the way he claimed? I'm really seeing you just blowing it out of proportion to substantiate your case against him, that's scummy. Also tunneling on CMAR. What say you to Nikanor's miller claim? The back and forth between Parama/Starbuck?
I think I believe Nikanor. I think Parama and Starbuck are both town.
No, of course I didn't copy paste it as that would be subject to modkill
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Is there a non of the above option? I would rather do one of the two things:Parama wrote:unvote, vote: CMAR
Still not happy with a Nik lynch.
I just thought up a great idea. Nik votes CMAR, we give Starbuck the hammer. Any questions?
1) Lynch suspects that don't have any votes on them at the moment, but we don't have the time
2) Lynch Nikanor because miller is a very safe claim for mafia and I've never seen anyone know that they are miller before.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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But if Steph was scum, could he not still manipulate it?kunkstar7 wrote:
The problem with town agreeing on an order is scum can influence the list to put themselves in a more favorable position. So each player after they claim chooses one of the remaining unclaimed players who they woud like to claim.Slaxx wrote:Oh. I didn't know thats how it worked. 0_o
I thought town just agreed on an order.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I still don't understand what he meant that I copied my claim from somewhere...kunkstar7 wrote:
He can only manipulate the next in line, and if he's scum then good because we want scum locked into the claim early, so they can't claim a random role that no one else has claimed to be safe.CryMeARiver wrote:
But if Steph was scum, could he not still manipulate it?kunkstar7 wrote:
The problem with town agreeing on an order is scum can influence the list to put themselves in a more favorable position. So each player after they claim chooses one of the remaining unclaimed players who they woud like to claim.Slaxx wrote:Oh. I didn't know thats how it worked. 0_o
I thought town just agreed on an order.
In any case, we are waiting on Steph's claim.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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My role isn't on there though. The only place I got my role was from my PM...kunkstar7 wrote:From the first page...where ToD posted a copy of the vanilla role pm?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I still don't understand, but okay. Let's go Steph!Nachomamma8 wrote:Kunk got it. So no more discussion until Steph claims, please.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Steth-Explain to me why I'm lying. I got all that info directly from my role PM. There is not even anywhere else I could have gotten that info.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I have claimed, and I have the feeling it will take a while to get through this popcorn claiming.Slaxx wrote:Wow, 9 days. This is getting nowhere,
If the mod feels the necessity to replace me, I wouldn't like that, but it's up to the mod. Sorry for the inconvenience. I will attempt to check in every once in a while, but whenever I say I will have Internet access, it never happens or I have to do it from a tiny phone (very hard).ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Actually, I'm going to my timeshare in Hilton Head, SC to relax. I got my AP US History exam over with today and I feel good about it and now I get to miss a week of school and relax on the beaches I should be able to access the Internet, I just don't want to say that I will be able to only to not be able to.Slaxx wrote:From the looks of activity, you won't miss much. I am not complaining about you replacing out, more or less i was complaining about the inactivity and speculating the length of your V/LA.
Anyway hopefully its on vacation and you have fun =)
As to steph, how much more daylight are we gonna burn before we can discuss stuff again?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I'm pretty sure I never said this (can't say for sure because I am on vacation with a phone and can't check). If memory holds, I never said anything about typing a PM WORD FOR WORD because I am positive that I did NOTHING of the sort. I paraphrased.Stephoscope wrote:
Did you miss how CMAR claimed that typing out a PM word for word is somehow permissible, but using the copy/paste function is not?kunkstar7 wrote:Wow, how are you even pushing that lynch on these reasons?
Nachomamma: Good question.
Vote: CryMeARiver
His case has included:Slaxx wrote:Although Stephen's case is bad, CMAR isn't doing much to defend himself. Kunk should back off for a while, as should the rest of the town, and let CMAR defend himself, or incriminate himself. His choice. Also, I thought we agreed that discussion should be held until after the mass claim.
A gut feeling
False info (something about the info I posted about my PM already being in the sample PM's)
My predecessor (If anyone has played with muh, they would know that that's ridiculous)
How would you propose I defend myself against that? (In case anyone is wondering, I am not fishing for how to defend myself. It's sarcasm in case you are stupid enough to think I am scum fishing.)
This made me laugh. So if you were scum, you would genuinely scumhunt and put forth cases on people? Because that's how I read it.Steth wrote:CMAR's attack on him seemed very much like what I would do if I were scum.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Based off that, not at all. It could be scummy, but it's very null to me. It's null because he could very easily just be town trying to scumhunt.Slaxx wrote:So then CMAR, do you think Steph is scum?
I'd have to read him and his partner in ISO to see if he's scummy overall. But right now, that's kind of difficult for me to do. I'm going to try to get a list of everyone's claims organized.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Regiments? Thanks.Slaxx wrote:Its pretty easy. I am cop, Kunk is supposed doc, everyone else is VT. Tracker and Miller are dead, so is Serial killer.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Yes, this is a very good point. But it could also be that they were trying to create for a mislynch, so it's a little WIFOMish, but I largely agree with you.Nicodemus wrote:
I do. Wifom aside, why would the mafia choose to leave the doc alive for the night if kunk really is the doc? It would just increase the chances of them trying to kill the person that kunk protected. Kunk is my biggest suspicion now just because he's still alive when it's fairly obvious that he shouldn't be.Slaxx wrote:This seems about right. I think kunk's doc claim is legit. Does anyone disagree with this?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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That would be because I don't know anything for sure?Slaxx wrote:CMAR is doing some serious fence sitting IMO. I guess I will get my ISOs up tomorrow...I have an event to attend in the evening so expect to see it up midafternoon.
This is what I have in my opinion: Nico and Steth are scum with a small chance of Kunk being scum. I am clear to me, your breadcrumbs seem certain enough unless you have been planing this for a while, Nacho seems very protown to me. But first, I would like to check something.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Your protection doesn't have a flavor name does it? (This question is only posed to Kunk)kunkstar7 wrote:Alright, I guess I'm claiming now to help this lynch out if deadline is today. I'm Santa Clara Vanguard, a doctor. I protected Nacho Night 1 as he seemed the towniest through Day 1.
Parama's bribing Starbuck and Slaxx with town cred is horrible, as is Nico's out of nowhere vote.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Flavor pleaseStephoscope wrote:I am Pacific Crest, vanilla town. If anyone needs any other info, let me know.
I obviously pass the baton to CMAR.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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QFTCryMeARiver wrote:
Your protection doesn't have a flavor name does it? (This question is only posed to Kunk)kunkstar7 wrote:Alright, I guess I'm claiming now to help this lynch out if deadline is today. I'm Santa Clara Vanguard, a doctor. I protected Nacho Night 1 as he seemed the towniest through Day 1.
Parama's bribing Starbuck and Slaxx with town cred is horrible, as is Nico's out of nowhere vote.
Flavor pleaseStethescope wrote:I am Pacific Crest, vanilla town. If anyone needs any other info, let me know.
I obviously pass the baton to CMAR.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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When I get the answers, I will do what you say to be scumhunting. But for now, I'm doing it my way.Slaxx wrote:By the way, CMAR is pretty much using flavor as an excuse for scumhunting I believe. You can analyze flavor all you want but I would prefer you look at behavioral patterns instead.
Such as the sudden absence of Steth and Kunk? Or were you talking about something else?Slaxx wrote:There are other things that can be commented on CMAR.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Right now I'm thinking Steph and Kunk. But I would like them to answer my questions before I explain why. By the way, I forgot to compliment you on your clever breadcrumbsSlaxx wrote:Who is scum and why, CMAR? Same to steph.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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It's really just process of elimination with a little bit of scumhunting. Let's go thru the players:Slaxx wrote:I try. Okay, so here is where I hammer on everyone and be a dick because nothing seems to make sense to me. Apologizing in advance.
Nacho, I thought you wanted a no lynch at the start of the day? What changed your mind?
Nacho, last game where I was scum and you were town, you were extremely reluctant to believe almost any PR claim. I know mine was bad (lol) but even Peanut's (which was fairly believable I thought, maybe it was from my perspective) you were reluctant to believe. How come you seemed to accept my cop claim so quickly? In addition, kunk's doc claim seemed to please you as well.
Nicodemus, who is kunk's partner if he isnt really the doctor? Why is nacho such a strong town read for you?
Kunk, you were pretty close to a lynch day 1. Explain why you did not claim doctor then, please.
Stephoscope, who is scum and why? Also, answer the flavor question so CMAR can scumhunt and stop using it as an excuse to not scumhunt. Also, it's pretty hypocritical what you are doing with CMAR. He gave more information and flavor than you in his role claim yet you say its too much like the town one, when you give no flavor at all for yours. Why hold off on the flavor? Do you need time to make it up? This makes no sense to me. Explain. Soon. Now, even.
CMAR, I would like for you to answer my questions before they give flavor, or at least when you start building a case on them give two separate posts: one as to your suspicions before their flavor claims and one for after. That way I can trace your thought process.
CMAR - I know this guy is clear for sure
Slaxx - His breadcrumbs make me think that he is definitely cop (or smart scum in which case he deserves to win)
Nacho - Very protown all game - still could be scum, but doubtful
Nico - Hasn't acted protown but based off two things which you will hate, I think he's town. His meta for the game makes sense. In every one of his games as town, he acts this way (unless he's a PR in which he's generally more helpful.) Also, the flavor he provided with his role. It's not something you can just google and it will pop up right away, I tried. But it's definitely true that Frameworks set records in 2002. Unless they got flavor names and descriptions with their fake roles, I don't think he's scum. There is one thing though. They have been the best DCI team of the decade, the Cavaliers. Therefore itisa bit odd that they are only a vanilla townie. Small chance of scum.
Steth - Has tunneled me with pretty much no reasoning for the past 2 days. Has not provided flavor with his role claim. Has provided a fairly easy role claim. Has suddenly gone absent. Has not contributed much to the town as a whole. Large chance of scum.
Kunk - A thing I find odd is that on D1 under enormous pressure, he did not claim doc - something any real town doctor would have done. Why would you risk being lynched as a town PR like he did? You wouldn't. Also, why hasn't he died after claiming doctor on D1? I also should look into his flavor a bit more, but I have yet to do this. Either way, in my opinion, large chance of scum.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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I'm not really sure what you mean by "pattern", but do I find it helpful in finding scum? Yes, yes I do.Nachomamma8 wrote:
You, dear fellow. You've been playing fairly pro-town thus far, and now that you're a powerrole, you're not exactly someone I want the scum to be able to kill and get off scot-free for it.Slaxx wrote: Nacho, I thought you wanted a no lynch at the start of the day? What changed your mind?
Let's see... I didn't believe Raider's vig claim because there was one person who got killed N1, and it happened to be almost everyone's top town read. Didn't believe Peanut's because he was seeming pretty scummy to me at that time, and I had never seen a Paranoid Gun Owner before, but I had seen scum fakeclaim it. I believed your copclaim because of two reasons. 1) You had a really copish reaction to the miller claim, and 2) There's a miller, and a miller without a cop is a bit bastardish. I'm believe kunk only because doctor is such a common role; he claimed fairly early, and he wasn't counterclaimed yet. That doesn't mean I believe him just yet, but it means that it lends him enough cred for me to lynch someone else today.Slaxx wrote: Nacho, last game where I was scum and you were town, you were extremely reluctant to believe almost any PR claim. I know mine was bad (lol) but even Peanut's (which was fairly believable I thought, maybe it was from my perspective) you were reluctant to believe. How come you seemed to accept my cop claim so quickly? In addition, kunk's doc claim seemed to please you as well.
@CMAR, yes or no question. Do you see a pattern in how the flavor is written?ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Ok, sounds good. For a minute there I thought you were about to say you were gonna post your full flavor and I was like NOOOOOOSlaxx wrote:Okay hold up for a moment. Don't say anything else about flavor. I will post my full flavor (paraphrased of course) after kunk posts his. Nothing else about flavor please.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Yes, I clearly FoS Steph and Kunk, Steph more so than Kunk so:Slaxx wrote:@Nacho: Were you not expecting any additional power roles to claim? I mean obviously with the miller you thought there would be a cop. So shouldn't you of expected a cop claim regardless and therefore pushed for the lynch?
@Cmar: So your FoSs are Steph/Kunk?
Also, scum sometimes get fake claims. I did...ask nacho. Don't rely too much on them. What, outside of the flavor, makes you think Nic is town?
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Yes, I am aware that scum get fake claims. But depending on the mod, sometimes they get only flavor names, sometimes they get flavor names and maybe a flavor line to validate their claim, and sometimes they get the whole Sha-Bang! and get the flavor name, flavor line, and role of their fake claim.
The only other things that make me think Nic is town is meta and the fact that I find Steth and Kunk scummier.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Steth and I have crossed, that's it if I remember correctly. But if you insist:Slaxx wrote:Unvote please, isnt that two votes?
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GrrrrrSlaxx wrote:No I don't care if one vote is on them. Not two though. Not now anyway.
Vote: StethescopeShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Is anyone else seeing how EVERYONE's role PM flavor as well as the sample PM flavors are about the drum group itself while his is like an online dating ad? Lynch him pleaseStephoscope wrote:Sorry I've been absent. Tough week. I'll be around more this weekend.
My flavor (paraphrased):
I'm really into movies, and am located in the main center of that industry. I specialize in making music for movies. Hopefully this movie will have a happy ending, and we can prevent the good guys from becoming angels.
I'm really unhappy about these comments on how I have no reason to be voting for CMAR. I'm voting him because he his scum. His "scumhunting" (on a townie) was fishy, and his role PM histrionics confirmed it.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Mine actually does now that I reread it. Something about how I don't care about rankings ever since the judges ranked me second in 1983 when the crowd felt I should have won and now I only care about how I feel after a performance. Now I'm on the biggest stage of my life and I have to improvise.Nachomamma8 wrote:
I have both band flavor, and personal flavor. From the way you say this, you're acting like you don't. Is my assumption false, and if not, why would you say this?CryMeARiver wrote: Is anyone else seeing how EVERYONE's role PM flavor as well as the sample PM flavors are about the drum group itself while his is like an online dating ad? Lynch him please
But everyone has thus far provided a fact with their drumming group and he didn't and the flavor he provided seems ridiculous to me.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Hmm, I surprisingly agree with all of this. I don't know how anyone gets scummy drum groups, but I would include this one. Just look at the insignia someone posted earlier haha.Slaxx wrote:Steph's flavor sounds fake.
CMAR's flavor sounds kind of selfmotivated, making me think possible scum. As in, the band is only concerned about themselves. However I don't look too much into it so whatever.
Nic's flavor I need more of I think.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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No backtracking here. My personal flavor makes more sense to me than his first of all, and second of all, I had truly forgotten all about the italicized part. I only remembered the facts relating to the drum corps team. Also, the fact that Steph STILL hasn't provided any facts to do with his team (that is presumably in his fake PM) after being called out on it is noted (and scummy).kunkstar7 wrote:
I don't like the backtracking from this. You attack Steph because of stating some personal flavor as if you didn't have any then when called on it you "reread" your pm and now you have more. At this point I find the reactions to the flavor more important than the actual flavor, (maybe because I know nothing of the DCI.)CryMeARiver wrote:
Mine actually does now that I reread it. Something about how I don't care about rankings ever since the judges ranked me second in 1983 when the crowd felt I should have won and now I only care about how I feel after a performance. Now I'm on the biggest stage of my life and I have to improvise.Nachomamma8 wrote:
I have both band flavor, and personal flavor. From the way you say this, you're acting like you don't. Is my assumption false, and if not, why would you say this?CryMeARiver wrote: Is anyone else seeing how EVERYONE's role PM flavor as well as the sample PM flavors are about the drum group itself while his is like an online dating ad? Lynch him pleaseShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Still waiting for him to answer this.Slaxx wrote:I am trying not to let my frustration effect the way I judge your behavior, but it is becoming very hard for me to do so. I usually relate uncooperativeness to scum. After all, they are the only ones who don't want to push town away from victory, yes?
You have yet to elaborate on why witholding your flavor was unintentional. You had the time to type out "if you need more, ask" but not time ti type out 2 sentences of paraphrased flavor? And surely it did not slip your mind, because by saying "if you need more, ask" you acknowledged that there was indeed more flavor. So if there was no extra effort involved, and you had extra flavor, and you withheld it even though you acknowledged it and had time to type out something else, how was this act of secrecy unintentional? Why have you not yet elaborated on this, blatantly ignoring that part of the question?
A) Answer and Explain the questions above
B) Give a case on CMAR Other than "He led a lynch on a townie, he tunneled" (hypocrisy at its finest)
C) Give possible scum suspects other than CMAR, i.e a back up suspect or a possible partnerShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Can't waitkunkstar7 wrote:Hi, I have my scum suspect, but it answers point B) and C) on the questions for Steph, so I'm holding off until he shows up with them.
I'll post my two scumspects with cases after Steph does what I called him out on and Nico/Steph answer Slaxx's questions.ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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Are you just a fucking moron?Stephoscope wrote:
A) I did not realize flavor was considered important. Keep in mind I was also criticized for providing my ROLE when I was asked to ROLECLAIM! I have no reservations whatsoever with providing my flavor, and the only reason (in my opinion) that it could be framed as "scummy" is that I paraphrased very carefully.Slaxx wrote:I am trying not to let my frustration effect the way I judge your behavior, but it is becoming very hard for me to do so. I usually relate uncooperativeness to scum. After all, they are the only ones who don't want to push town away from victory, yes?
You have yet to elaborate on why witholding your flavor was unintentional. You had the time to type out "if you need more, ask" but not time ti type out 2 sentences of paraphrased flavor? And surely it did not slip your mind, because by saying "if you need more, ask" you acknowledged that there was indeed more flavor. So if there was no extra effort involved, and you had extra flavor, and you withheld it even though you acknowledged it and had time to type out something else, how was this act of secrecy unintentional? Why have you not yet elaborated on this, blatantly ignoring that part of the question?
A) Answer and Explain the questions above
B) Give a case on CMAR Other than "He led a lynch on a townie, he tunneled" (hypocrisy at its finest)
C) Give possible scum suspects other than CMAR, i.e a back up suspect or a possible partner
B) For the third time or however many times it's been, CMAR's claim was like verbatim from the publicly posted vanilla role, and yet he maintained that somehow manually typing a role word by word was acceptable, but cutting and pasting, leading to the same result, was not. CMAR WAS TYPING THE ROLECLAIM BECAUSE HE WAS MAKING IT UP. IT WAS NOT IN HIS INBOX.
C) I will happily point out additional suspects, WHEN I HAVE THEM. I have not yet seen anything so suspicious that I would think it beneficial to shift focus from CMAR. Deal with it.
1) Go look at the Sample PM. Now ISO me and look at my PM flavor. THEY ARE NOTHING FUCKING ALIKE.
2) This was my role claim flavor
For the unteenth million time, I DID NOT TYPE IT WORD FOR WORD. The second sentence is my PARAPHRASED flavor. The third sentence shows I am vanilla townie and shows my wincon. MY ROLE PM IS NO WHERE NEAR VERBATIM. THIS IS A POOR CASE. Oh, now I see, you think I copied the bolded from the sample PM? First of all, that's not flavor, so STOP fucking saying I copied my flavor from the sample PM. Second of all, I just provided the info from my role PM I felt needed. I did not provide all of the italicized flavor at the beginning or the Confirm InThread at the end and the parts I did provide in between were all paraphrased.CMAR wrote:Screw this, I'm vanilla townie as well. I am the Colts. I originally had a Western theme, but I ran out of music to play and decided to diversify my music.I have no special abilities and when all other factions have left the game (or nothing can prevent it from happening, which idk how that can happen from a town perspective).
Notice how he is yet to provide the fact based flavor of his PM rather than just the italicized flavor (which I assume is what he gave us).ShowYou can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
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