Mini 971: Princess bride - They all lived .......

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confirm..

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We all know how this is going to go down, Sens....are you going to replace out now, or drag it on awhile?

vote Sens.

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how do you allow sigs? cant see them.

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I believe the Miller claim, that being said I have seen Kubai Khan (sp?) do the exact same thing as scum....so by claiming Miller, most likely menas ML wont see the end of game. But that was just the luck of the draw, claiming miller was the right move (if he really is a miller). ML is not the lynch today....however, that isnt a pass for the whole game (but you should know that).

Sens is useless...I have never been in a game with him that he was anything but. Was hoping that his time away from mafiascum his playstyle had changed. But no...lurky (in other games)....gets replaced out of games only to sign up for new ones...and now a self vote.

all that aside, do i think Sensscum would self vote? Yeah...i think he would. Just as much as I think he would as town.

I am fine with my vote right now.....

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ckd, I did lurk in 1 game since I got back, and was not replaced in it.

why would you lie about this? Me thinks you are trying to goad me into talking about an ongoing game with similiar sitautions....my vote stays, there is no protown reason for you to a.) lie or b.) try to goad me.

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also Sens, why are you avoiding your "policy lynch" of claimed millers?

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ckd, I did lurk in 1 game since I got back, and was not replaced in it.

why would you lie about this? Me thinks you are trying to goad me into talking about an ongoing game with similiar sitautions....my vote stays, there is no protown reason for you to a.) lie or b.) try to goad me.

edit: are you saying you have not been replaced in any game since you have been back?

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and what about your policy of miller lynches?...why the change in this game?

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Because Jack is far scummier. If you didn't notice, I did vote ML for his Miller claim.

what has jack done that is far scummier? I did note your vote, but I also noted your unvote.

please describe to mean your personal policy on Miller claims day 1...and know that I am fact checking.

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@CKD: Sens is trying to act within his meta, but failing. I've played with him before, and he is acting different.

what exactly is he doing that is different?

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Sens you just fucking better be scum..seriously.

if you just flaked and self hammer as town (5 days into the game, and not replaced out of this game for "personal reasons" too)...I will troll you until the end of days in every game. i will join every god damn game you join and troll you...so help me god.

if you are scum..thank you, you made this incredibly easy and I look forward to your obvious scum play in the future.

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I'm an SK. I hope the Mafia kill your dumb asses.

if you are scum..thank you, you made this incredibly easy and I look forward to your obvious scum play in the future.

thank you for flaking come again.

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is that why he got banned?

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Ok, this is a bit tricky because D1 was so short the game didn't really get into full flow before it was over.

eikm, ok, so you broke down everyone...would like to see how you would do this out of the box though....in the same way you "evaluated" everyone, could you do the same for yourself?

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- So pretty much the only thing he did was hound SensFan, but that's a legitimate thing to do. He asked about his policy on miller lynching, which is reasonable. Is that something

you

can show

he's

done before?

confused by your last question...bolded is why, who are you talk to? And what are you asking? What is the something? hounding Sens? Asking him about his claim? quesioning a miller in general?

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or are you asking if I have seen Sens do "something" like this before???

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ekim...thanks, was curious what you would say about yourself when your "contributions" were on the same level as others you listed as "almost nothing"

yes, he does(I think), the game is current though...

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Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?

I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.

I find this an interesting statement....you see no particular reason to pressure Para?..at all? Huh... Seems pretty early to make such a statement. why is wolf worth a wagon? and do you often ask people to join you bandwagonning early as scum or is this just a town trait??

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Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?

I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.

I find this an interesting statement....you see no particular reason to pressure Para?..at all? Huh... Seems pretty early to make such a statement. why is wolf worth a wagon? and do you often ask people to join you bandwagonning early as scum or is this just a town trait??

I think you're misinterpreting me; I don't think Parama is innocent, I just don't think he stands out. I see no reason to wagon Parama over wolf. And I ask both as town and as scum (I do it as scum because I know I do it as town).

Well, you just said I was town, now I am misrepresenting you? You could have said "misunderstanding", but you jump right to "misrepresenting". Again, interesting. Am I scummy now?

Actually how am I misrepresenting you? When someone says "I see no particular reason to wagon" someone, that usually means they dont think someone is scummy. please help me understand your statement without attacking my questions. Exactly why do you think that Para is "not innocent"? I would like your stance on Para (without a reference to wolf in it).

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also please explain your case on wolf...obviously you "think there is a particular reason" to wagon him..why?

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Is there a good reason for asking a stance on me?

is there a reason you are not reading the thread?

reading my conversation with SPS, do you really not see why I am asking what I am asking?

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oh shit, you DID say misinterpret, not misrepresent....got to reread whole exchange now, when I thought you said misrepresent, I was pissed, even meta-ed (current shared game) you to see if as scum you accused someone of that in the same way.

reading for the win.

will catch up later with the new content.

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work has picked up, dont think i will be able to post until friday or sat, posting in all games.

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sorry was prodded, wanted to post yesterday but too busy, got to work now, but will update by the end of the day.

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Ok (re)reading from page 7, as usual typing as I go.
…site is loading slow..ugh.

It's incriminating me because of things I didn't do myself. The obvious issue there should be obvious, obviously.

How am i incriminating you? I found SPS position on you interesting? first he was about your wagon, then returns with "no particular reason to bandwagon you"...which I disagree with (if anything my opinion is "incriminating" you, but not my pressing of someone to take a stance on you) then he come out with he doesnt think you are innocent...it is quite interesting...it is called scum hunting. I wanted a firm stance on you from SPS, not this flippy floppy shit.

Correction, I just realized I've played two games with him; I was referencing a newbie game where I believe that summary fits. There was also Quiz Show Mafia, but that had rather different rules from a conventional mafia game.

have you ever played with him as scum?

His calling me out at the start of the day for non-contributing when he has less posts than me is actually quite funny.

yeah, but his posts have content (and stances)..are you really stating you have posted more content at this point?

Screw it, Parama can wait a day.

Unvote, Vote DDD

why wait a day?

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Not too much more has happened..prods and what not.

Getting scum vibes off SPS, BV, and to some extent Para (but for different reasons). I personally think SPS needs pressure. I understand the DDD wagon (but feel like there are scummier people), but am a little lost on the Mike push.

Vote SPS,

there is no reason (especially after the events of yesterday AND the night kill) that you should say Para doesn’t need a wagon…dont know if you are trying to buy townie points (if Para is town) or if you are trying to explain your change in vote off of Para (if he is scum)...but either way, your random vote is not sitting well....

curious, why he doesnt have more votes by now.

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I'm tired and distracted at the moment, and don't play that well when I am. Hopefully my enthusiasm will be renewed at some point in the near future.

at what point do you think you might have to ask for a replacement...sort of a cop out/reason to lurk...so you can understand my concern.

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I dont get Para's name claim at all, unless he felt threatened...

did you feel threatened? and by what?

also , from someone on the ekim wagon, what is the case there?

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I don't feel threatened, I want you people to stop being wrong.

what people?

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i dont think I have seen one game where BV played and didnt lurk.

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there is no real reason to vote anyone Day 1.

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Edit: lynch anyone

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there is no real reason to lynch anyone Day 1.

Umm, what?

Because there's no reason to lynch me, of course.

saying this isnt a defense...there is no "real" reason to lynch anyone day one...we only have assumptions and metas to go on (unless there is a night 0)..the statement from Para is silly.

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Parama do you plan on doing anything today other than blithely asserting that you're not scum and pointing back at the beginning of the day as some tour de force implicating Mike as scum and revealing you as town?

hey DDD who is scum and why?

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CKD this is day 2 if you didn't get the memo

wow was I even here for day 1?

fucking ignore my last 4 posts?!?

Just feels like Day 1 to me I guess..the Sens lynch was so fast and we got lucky we nailed scum. I guess cases and arguements can be made from that lynch, but it still boils down to we nailed scum. Sure mafia has just as big a reason to quickly wagon an unknown (in this case a SK), but they also have a reason to stay off of the wagon (see bullshit, why did you jump on the Sens wagon cases)...being on or off that wagon is a null tell...and cases based on it are worthless.

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well, I understand hack's questioning of Mac.

and I am glad of the unvote to keep today going a bit longer.

dont understand the horror questions and vote....and I dont like the fact he is avoiding questions....jack, answer the questions that have been posed to you please.

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just posting to avoid a prod, I still like my vote where it is, and I still dont like the ekim wagon....also, jack looks dodgey.

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I think CKD is scum.

why is that? are you not dodging questions?

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Unvote; Vote: ekiM

Game is stagnating and Mike should die for so casually tossing aside his read to play follow the alleged power role, put those two together and Mike needs more votes.

so you have gone from thinking Para is scum, to voting with him for NO reason?


I would also be ok with a DDD rewagon

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I think CKD is scum.

So why aren't you voting him?

Vote: Jack

tell me that isnt the only reason you are voting him. You have never thought more than one person was scummy at a time?

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Delayed omgus.

I dont think this is a true statement either.

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I dont believe the claim....grandfather wasnt even a character in the story, he was the narrator, doesnt makes sense (but that is just flavor crap), it is an easy claim, because no one would be that character (because it is not a character)

we need to lynch SPS today.

SPS, please provide said crumb.

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ugh, my instinct says bullshit.

but my head knows you are not the correct lynch today.

if you are telling the truth, you have killed me too.

unvote.

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this is probably old news (question)

Jack if you have role related information that DDD is scum, why are you voting someone else?

(think i am missing something)

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Speaking of which, Shovel your vote for me is ill-placed. You're voting me for following Jack, which is something you should be OK with seeing as you did too. We only have a day and a half until deadline so who are you going to vote for?

He also was ok with following me despite supposedly being an information role himself...

Oh wow, good point. Shovel what were you thinking Jack was doing then when you followed him?

what is the good point?..I think I missing it.

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Vote count

ekiM (3) Parama, Steam Powered Shovel, Debonair Danny DiPietro
SPS (2) curiouskarmadog, CryMeARiver
Jack (1) Horrordude

Horrordude (4) Jack, ekiM, Kmd4390, MacavityLock

Not voting:


with 10 alive it will take 6 to lynch
Deadline is June 7, 7:30am PST

dear, I unvoted in 373

Fixed

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ah christ, this has blow up with walls of text...will try to get to this tomorrow (monday)

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ok, lied, no way I am going to be able to do this tonight....going to update all my games soon.

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I havent caught up yet, just skimming, saw this though

That's L-1 then?

Vote horror

There you do it again,
but rather than take your word for horror's scumminess, I'd rather read the thread and form my own opinion before dropping the hammer

Um.

This sounds like a post coming from someone who was just told to hammer? Why is that?

Seriously, do you. You wanna finish the read first, that's cool.

um, sounds like a post from someone who knows that mafia can DAY TALK?!!?

I dont like the horror lynch.

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KMD, like I said I have only skimmed.

that being said,

what I have read so far, I approve of this.

I do not approve of the ekiM lynch.

vote DDD

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sweet jesus biscuits!

needed a win.