Harry Potter Mafia - Over!

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I'm here.

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- Read all seven pages
- Just waiting on something before I post

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- Read all seven pages
- Just waiting on something before I post

Waiting on what, exactly? I'm not sure what exactly you have to be waiting for, before you can give your opinions on the 7 pages that already exist.

It's one of those things where if told, loses its purpose.

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Was waiting for RC to return back and reply to MMM. He's posting in other games - maybe he's waiting for my case here before posting hoping the winds blow in some other direction. (catch 22)

Anyway that's not going to happen. Based on my re-read I can clearly see a MMM-RC pairing. Partly RC meta from just playing a game with him and partly interactions.

17: "lmao" for MMM's "Vote: MPR for RVS voting me in another game." - It really isn't that funny.
35: Defense of the MMM wagon.
39: Biggest tell - defends MMM's bastard mod comment
47: Commenting on something MMM said (unnecessary) - this is an RC tell. Based on indepth analysis of ongoing game where he's already flipped.
121: Analysis first para - when skipping over the worthless stuff he mentions MMM twice (the second time where he says "links from MMM" is unnecessary)
148\149 - Both of them attack each other. Nobody lays down a vote.

Potential scumbuddy: Sudo_Nym
45: Wants to go back to the "actual game". Don't you like the pressure on MMM - afraid he'll do something stupid?
54-61: Slightly hypocritical - Votes NS for not staying on topic but choose to make a random comment the very next post.\
85: MMM - "I'll be keeping an eye on Sudo_Nym" - why single out Sudo_Nym?
132: Lol. Votes Sera as soon as he votes on Sudo
- farside's 180 point on Sudo ignoring RC comments.

Other points of note:
* Sudo is clearly the scummier of the two in the farside\Sudo argument.
* Espeonage's Post 95: Anybody who calls a fight town vs town this early on is a good candidate for scum. (MMM @ Post 118 too)
* "@ farside vs sudo: sudo's 83 seems a bit too over-defensive and over-critical imo, but there are some valid points in it." - Very vague without taking a stance.
* 131 - Seraphim is town
* 136 - Kmd's reads - he's placed MMM,Espeonage in the town list. Can you list your reasons as to why you did so?

So I can see links between MMM ~ RC, MMM ~ Sudo. I think farside's posts above show a link between RC and Sudo too.

Scum potentials: {MMM,RC,Sudo,Espeonage}

Unvote. Vote: RC

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My scumdar is shooting off the charts.

I wager that

at least

2 out of {RC, Kmd, Sudo, Esp, MMM} are scum.

Btw: I believe in a tell that the first person to usually say someone else could be SK is the SK!

Mac sounds like town to me
- He does not want to waste a cop investigation - logical
- And he wants the vig to shoot him - one of those smarter townies who know that if dying actually helps you team win, then you should do it.

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Sera, your tunneling on Sudo and not commenting on anything else (RC's play, Mac's claim) that happened after the farside-Sudo argument looks scummy.

Thoughts on other players?

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Catching up

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V\LA for exactly 24 hours. You can expect a catch up post for this game within 36 hours.

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208: @Esp - Scum have a GF if he flips scum

232: @Sera - Over reaction?

279,280: Just re-inforces my Sudo-RC theory

285: @farside: farside doesn't comment on RC. Mild farside ~ RC.

330: @Raj - "Sudo and RC are not connected." - what??

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I reverse my opinion on Kmd. Kmd, FG get added to the town list.
Town: {Mac, Kmd, FG}
Scum: {RC, Sudo, Esp, MMM}

RC you should full claim now. Not just the role name but abilities as well.

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I believe RC's claim and do not want to lynch him today. If I am not mistaken, deadline is really close by!

If I impose a day deadline, no one will be lynched if the deadline hits with no one reaching the required number of votes.

If
a) We no lynch and
b) I find that you are active elsewhere on the site
You will be lynched day two.

Unvote. Vote: Sudo

Sudo, if you are town, claim immediately. The "I will claim only if I am at L-1,L-2" bit only reduces chances of moving to another lynch if your claim is believable. Time is of the essence.

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I'm a dementor. I get to lock people up in Azkaban. Told you it wasn't a good claim for pro-town.

Hmm. Explains your hesitance at claiming initially. But I cannot see a dementor being a pro-town role. Two questions for you:
a) When do you win? (Paraphrase please)
b) Are you a DEmentor (MT class) by any chance?

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One question for FG and Kmd: Are you AC and AC?

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I can see Dementors being Pro-town. To be perfectly honest they are almost neutral and anyway in games with easy roles to pick out the alignment of roles should be randomised so Harry could even be scum. I don't know if that happened here but i am willing to believe the claim.

Esp, which Death Eater are you?

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@hasdgfas

- Can we have an exact deadline? Sens has mentioned its three-weeks max on the OP

- Can I get prods on all the inactives? To make life easier for you - those who have not posted in the last 48 hours or so:
Nobody Special
MacavityLock mb53
Seraphim

- Umm; Can we also get possible replacements on Fuzzylighting, IH, Mysterious Mystery Man (Last posts: May 29)?

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Actually, looking at my role PM. The way the win condition is stated, my role and the Dementor's 'job' (in books) I am liking that role claim being pro town even more.

So would you like to change your answer to my question?

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Are ye searching for anything?

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Hmm. Posted that before this post of yours came up. I'll wait for the others to answer my questions.

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Did you ask anyone anything besides Sudo_Nym?

Kmd, FG.

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Back from V/LA.

Furcolow replaces Mysterious Mystery Man.
I'll extrend the deadline to exactly 3 days from this post, due to the replacement.
Votre Count coming shortly.

With two days gone in the move, can we take it that it's 5 days from your post?

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Esp: Wait, you actually believe Sudo's claim? A dementor would not be a jailkeeper, and even if it's the only thing that fits flavor-wise, I still can't see that as being a pro-town role. When was the last time you watched Prisoner of Azkaban or read Deathly Hallows? Please tell me you know that they are almost exclusively trying to kill good guys and help bad guys throughout the series from Book 3 on.

This thread needs moar Sudo_Nym wagon.

I can see Umbridge with her detentions always fitting as a JK role. Dementors are not a role I'd put in the "good" category..
But then we have to really think about what good means ..

This game cannot move forward until people come back and
i) Post their thoughts on the claims
ii) Reply to questions

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ebwop: always = also

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JK = Jailkeeper. What Sudo claimed.

FakeGod, does AC mean anything to you in this game. Be honest.

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AC?

ummm...... Allied Chat? Air Conditioning? Armed Cruiser?

I'm guessing no then.
I'll explain it later.

I wanted to check if Sudo was avoiding this thread but msutils doesn't seem to be working yet. I had both Esp and Sudo put down as scum but I am not sure if Esp would openly defend Sudo like this if he was his scumbuddy.

Lets see.

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Hammmeeer!!!!

Unvote. Vote: Sudo

Esp, why did you think your role initially pointed to Sudo being possible town and then pointed to scum sudo i.e Why the turnaround?

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Meh. I was already voting - thought I had unvoted.
Somebody better come in and hammer.

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"I didn't make the connection between the

hard to kill

and dementor."
First off, where did the hard to kill part come from? Sudo claimed JK..

And I would have expected you to go straight at a dementor as a Patronus. (In fact this might be a cute lyncher or powerupper role on a dementor)