Mini 990: YuGiOh! The Abridged Mafia - (OVER)

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/confirm. RIP Tristan's old voice.

Also, I hate you guys for making me addicted to this stupid show. Got through the first 20 episodes on Youtube the other day. Made me late for work, too.

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I always think "Ph, one more won't be that long", then I end up watching 9. Crazy Bakura and his gaydar.

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lolwut?

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Brock: If you like Bakura, what do you think of this?

Vote: MaxMouse.

I like mice. Shall we see just how mousy you are?

Obligatory "I want to hammer Pomegranate" remark goes here~.

He's still my favourite character. Crazy limey.

Wait, how do you know my name? O_o

Vote: Beloved Princess

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He is British, though.

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I miss mafSepia.

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/Prodded.

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Okay, so in the spirit of getting myself back in to this game, I've elected to read everything. On doing so, I must admit that Kitoari is considerably scummier than my first impression. His posting so far this game has consisted of very little content, and him being over-defensive after being called out seems rather scummy. Call it a gut read if you want, but something is off here.

Unvote, Vote: Kitoari

Other than that, I must admit Almaster's OMGUS against Dram is quite entertaining. Not scummy, just something amusing I noticed.

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That's why it's amusing, not scummy. It's like a one-sided OMGUS vote. If that makes any sense.

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So no-one has Bv-town/lurker meta?

VOTE: BV310

LEATHER PANTS!

As to prevent a breaking of site-wide rules.

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None of those are ongoing, I don't think.

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Oh shit, I linked the wrong one.

Mod, could you please remove that post, or just the first link? I thought that game was finished when I posted the link.

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No need to read Precision ever. Let's not talk about me losing the whole thing as a recruiting mason. Weirdest. Role. Ever.

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Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou. I totally thought I had a different game there, not the one that was there.

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You don't need to replace me RBT, I'll get re-caught up and get back in the game. Not breaking my streak yet.

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Okay, re-read what I was behind on. I have to admit that, while the Dramonic wagon has some really good points, none of it is particularly scummy. I've played with Dram before, and this is the same way he usually plays. Kitoari, on the other hand, seems genuinely scummy.

Unvote, Vote: Kitoari

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So, I got bored and decided to reread. Noticed an interesting little point in Post 103: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2328704 . It struck me as normal at the time, but how does FakeGod know that there are more than two scum in the game?

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Okay, so I'd like to state the obvious and say that we only have one scum left. What I thought was a FG scumslip yesterday is more than likely a Dramonic slip instead. Going through Dram's iso, I can't tell if he's distancing from Alma, or if their interaction was genuine. I'd like to err on the side of caution though, and

Vote: AlmasterGM

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whoa waaaait a second. Am I missing something here?

How do you know there's only 1 scum left???? Aren't there usually 3 scum in a 12 people game?

I think he was assuming that this quote from dramonic

Wow...
Will your other buddy step up so that we can call this game, or...?

proves that there's only one other scumbag.

I wouldn't assume that though.

That was what I was assuming.

Incidentally, MaxMouse, did you get any messages from the mod about anything that may have affected you?

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@MaxMouse: Did you get any kind of PM over the night relating to anything dice-related? I'll explain in a bit.

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I want to hear back from BV, because his post is weird to me as I received no such message during the night and I'd love to know what he's getting at.

And now I see this. Anyway, my role (in vaguest terms) allows me to "roll the dice" once per night, on one other player. It doesn't say what the ability is, so I decided to try it out last night on you. I got the result 6. Literally no idea what that means.

ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTECOUNT!

AlmasterGM (1) - bv310
Brandi (0) -
bv310 (0) -
charter (2) - Jarti, Pomegranate
FakeGod (0) -
InflatablePie (0) -
Jarti (0) -
Kitoari (1) - InflatablePie
MaxMouse (0) -
Pomegranate (0) -

10 alive, 6 to lynch

AlmasterGM is V/LA through 7/11/10.

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Sure. I'm actually quite curious what 6 means. I was hoping you'd get some kind of message about it.

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Actually, now that I think about it, this role is a lot similar to one that was in Wheedonesque Mafia. (The role was Shepherd Book if anyone's curious)

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Continued:

BV: Perhaps your role is a big modfuck? I've done similar things before to players.

I would hope that it actually does something.

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Alrighty then. I'll reread the thread tomorrow and get my thoughts up, hopefully. Gut is telling me that Kit is still the right play, but I'd like to back that up with a real case.

Preview Edit: FG, I'll wait to reveal my target until tomorrow.

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Brandi, it says Dice, as in plural, but I'm not sure.

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Brandi, if you've seen the Abridged Series, you'll know who my character is.

Also, the more I read FG's posting, the more it sounds like he's trying to figure out who he needs to kill tonight.

Unvote, Vote: FakeGod

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I have to admit, the thought of two confirmed townies in a Mini Theme seems unlikely.

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Bah.

The connection is legitimate enough such that it cannot be dismissed, but it's also extremely convenient.

WHAT DO.

Preview edit: It's called MASONS (minus quicktopic), bv. Why is that so unlikely?

Because basically confirming 2/12 players right off the bat seems overpowered, especially since one of our scum has already flipped as a Goon. Flavour-wise, it makes sense, but I think it sounds more likely as a scum fakeclaim.

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V/LA Until Monday

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Hey guys, sorry for disappearing. I had to go out of town unexpectedly and forgot to post my V/LA. I'm stealing wifi right now, so I should be able to catch up the few pages I've missed.

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1) It says that I don't know my big brother's role or alignment.

2) Mokuba Kaiba.

huh, that's strange. Because my role PM says I'm "Joey", not "Joey Wheeler".

I'm pretty sure Pie fakeclaimed to lure out Seto.

My PM calls me Duke Devlin, not just Duke.

Also, seeing as we've already had one set of siblings in this game, I don't think a second one all that unlikely.

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Also Lol at still going after FakeGod. Pie tried that yesterday, and look where it got him, and now he's a VIG and we've seen him kill. There's really zero room for FakeGod to be scum.

LOL. If that's how you play this game, you're going to lose a lot of mafia.

Anyway, I don't really believe the claim. I've never seen a (effective) VT turn into a vig when a connected player dies. I have, however seen a Pro-town PR turn into an SK when a connected VT dies. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 54&t=13488 (Starbuck in here. Started as Willow, turned into Dark Willow when Tara died)

So, just for clarity's sake, these are the roles that have been claimed so far:

Brandi - Doc (Tea)
bv310 - Dice Master (Duke Devlin)
Charter - ?
FakeGod - VT turned Vig (Joey)
Fishythefish - ?
MaxMouse - ?

Anyway, last night I rolled at FG and got a 2, along with some associated flavour about it being Snake Eyes.

Also, Happy Birthday MaxMouse!

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Also, forgot to mention, Brandi protecting in order to avoid suspicion is, quite frankly, bizarre, but not the weirdest night action I've seen a player make.

Also also, forgot to

Vote: FakeGod

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I actually think my role corresponds more to Shepherd Book, in the game I linked earlier. (JOAT with no control over ability)

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In that game, Book was able to "Pray" for one person a night, and a random JOAT role would target that person. I think in the nights he was alive, he was a redirect, a lightning rod, and a doc. It was a really interesting role.

Also, I'm quite surprised at how quickly the Brandi wagon has formed. Something's rotten in the state of Denmark. (Denmark being this game)

ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTECOUNT!

Brandi (1) - Charter
bv310 (0) -
charter (0) -
FakeGod (2) - bv310, Brandi
Fishythefish (0) -
MaxMouse (0) -

6 alive, 4 to lynch

[bv310]

I am Duke Devlin, Town Dungeon Dice Master.

In addition to bringing sexy back, I am also accutely attuned to my dice. Each night, I can choose to roll the dice to determine one player's fate.

This is paraphrased, of course, but that's the gist of it.

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I've been ignoring bv because his claim doesn't feel like a scum claim. But this case is basically conclusive.

vote: bv

lulz. If that's how you play mafia, then I'd give up now.

Allow me to respond to this "conclusive" case.

Exhibit A: This point basically hinges on you saying that my using meta is a scumtell. I've played games with Dram where he was a pro-town PR and he played nearly identical to how he did in this game. The last time I played with him as scum, he was nearly opposite to this, so I hoped to avoid running up a pro-town PR (as I thought he was at the time) to a claim on D1.

Exhibit B: I only "proclaimed with certainty" based on a post by Dram when I reread him after he flipped scum. Also, it's a beginning of day vote, aka the time when you usually look at D1 plays and look for connections.

Exhibit C: This one is based on my believing AlmGM's claim of doublevoter after it was quite clear that we had a double voter. When there was no CC, it's rather clear that he's telling the truth. I've never seen a scum double-voter before, so his un-CC'd claim is pretty compelling evidence for his alignment.

As for your "massive red flag", I don't see why it's so inconceivable that I could, you know, actually

think about the game

and change my opinions on a claim. I read a few other games with siblings in them. The Joey claim makes a mild amount of sense, except for the "turned vig" part. I think he's either a sibling-turned-SK, like in Whedonesque, or is actually telling the truth about his role (CONSIDERABLY more unlikely, at least to me)

Seriously, if that's the best case you have, I'd really like to see your worst.


PREVIEW EDIT: So impatient, Charter.

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No.

Just no? Not even going to try and defend your case? If I'm scum, then you're the SK.

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He claimed Confirmed Townie with her. That's the part I still don't believe. I believe his name claim, but not his role claim.

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That's all the explanation I was given. I PM'd the mod about it, but he said that he couldn't reveal any more and that my role PM told me everything I needed to know. Quite frustrating actually.

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Nope. For N1, all I got was some flavour about how I had decided that MM was the most suspicious, so I decided to let the dice decide. Concentrating on him, I rolled the dice, turning up a 5 and a 1, for a total of six. N2 was basically the same, except it said that I was shocked to see the dice staring back at me, and that I felt an ominous reaction from the result coming into this day.

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I would go FOS: FG & Fishy. FG for the reasons I've stated previously, and Fishy because he seems quite content to sit back, fly under the radar, and let me get mislynched without actually committing himself.

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Was that a hammer? If so, oh well. You caught me, I'm the Mafia Traitor. I don't know who the mafia are, nor do they know who I am. I am NOT responsible for either kill last night, and I do thoroughly believe that of the two I named, one is an SK or a vig-turned-SK.

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I didn't make either kill. I have to admit, I was surprised as the rest of you when Dram flipped.

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Normally, that's how it works, but I never got the option to kill last night.

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FG, I'd suggest you shoot Charter. It'll be a quick win for you guys.

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What possible motive could I have for lying at this point?

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Told you, I wasn't responsible for the NKs.

Also, I think I would have stood a chance if I had gotten a kill.

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I actually thought my Duke Devlin claim wasn't all that bad at first. I should have made up some result.