Werewolf: Wisborg Asylum: GAME OVER, Innocents Win.

[Andrius]

Hi ReaperCharlie, SV, inHim, Nacho.
I replaced in, so it'll be

a little while

some time before I catch up in the reread.

[Andrius]

Don't read.

Just be ignorant and vote random people.

My name isn't CryMeARiver. I don't replace into games and then purposefully not read the game.

[Andrius]

lol @ avatar change.
Read the first 10 pages.
Need to take a break.
Too much random crap going on in D1.

[Andrius]

Yeah, I'm using your post on page 56 (bottom) as a roster of who died when, since the first post with all our names isn't listed by death date.

[Andrius]

Negatory, RC.
I'm at page 20.

[Andrius]

You sir, are a pillar of responsibility and motivation.
There's no way I'd read through 60 pages of a game I replaced into.

I commend you.

... [/buddying]

Why thank you.
I'm at page 45.

I'm kind of flattered, given you wouldn't let me into the alliance in the other game.

Its too bad we don't have a

Pastry Maker: You make delectable goods that protect someone for a night.

I'll just accept the buddying attempt for the moment, smile and resume reading in a little while. I need food... some pastries... Mmmm...

[Andrius]

Well that sucks. All the protective pastries go to me.

You can still attempt to buddy me though. Makes me feel important.

[Andrius]

lol this

"this" being what?

[Andrius]

I assumed that since the Oracle died the dreams would cease, but there's no way of knowing that.

[Andrius]

Ok so I finished my read. I will reread the thread a second time, with the alignments of dead characters noted while I read- to look for possible connections, etc.

I'm neutral on a massclaim. I feel that it could wait a day, but no great objections.

So I'm starting to speculate on the remaining people.
I think that there could be a chance at one more werewolf, since they have been around the longest, therein, more time to recruit? Perhaps another 'red player' akin to "The Creature" and "The Ghoul". A second type of "The Lunatic" as well?

@ RC: Updating this would be nice. I'm too lazy ATM.

About the dreams. In my read Reckoner (i think it was him) mentioned something about 50% of the dreams being true. If this is the case, we can simply look at them like a Dethy game and work our way through the web. I'll work on a little dream-catcher diagram thing to show the connections, and hopefully I'll be able to upload it here.

Also @ RC: Why are you so convinced that SpyreX was a legit Priest before the recruitment? I seem to think that his story as a Priest-being untargettable- was veto'd by the recruitment. I think he was just a normal Innocent, since the lynch-flavor in D4 suggests that Priests use Holy Water as protection/a block of sorts.

I'll probably have some other Qs for some other people after the 2nd reread.

[Andrius]

So I'm starting to speculate on the remaining people.
I think that there could be a chance at one more werewolf, since they have been around the longest, therein, more time to recruit? Perhaps another 'red player' akin to "The Creature" and "The Ghoul". A second type of "The Lunatic" as well?

I agree.

I bet that whatever anti-town factions are left are one-manned. If there is still a Werewolf he's all alone. As is the Red-factioned player. As is the 2nd Lunatic.
Unless there's a whole other faction with three members, who we just haven't found yet.

@ RC: Updating this would be nice. I'm too lazy ATM.

So am I. Do it when you're less lazy.

Working on some of it now, actually.

About the dreams. In my read Reckoner (i think it was him) mentioned something about 50% of the dreams being true. If this is the case, we can simply look at them like a Dethy game and work our way through the web. I'll work on a little dream-catcher diagram thing to show the connections, and hopefully I'll be able to upload it here.

Don't bother. Whoever said that either spoke too soon, or was retarded. All of the dreams have been proven true now.

Really? then the Dethy-esque map should help a bit.

Also @ RC: Why are you so convinced that SpyreX was a legit Priest before the recruitment? I seem to think that his story as a Priest-being untargettable- was veto'd by the recruitment. I think he was just a normal Innocent, since the lynch-flavor in D4 suggests that Priests use Holy Water as protection/a block of sorts.

Because he hadn't seen the raj flip yet, so how could he have possibly known that there was a Priest role in the setup beforehand?

Fakeclaim. That's what I think anyway. What matters is that he flipped Werewolf, and he's dead. Moving along.

Btw, welcome to the Alliance.

Ummm, thanks?

Working on sorting the dreams and stuff out.

[Andrius]

Ok, here's what I compiled over the last hour:

[Andrius]

EBWOP: Am also working on the reread.

[Andrius]

Ummmm, no.
That was a simple diagram.

[Andrius]

Well, crypto clamed he had a dream (I think it was D3) saying that he (Crypto) dreamed that RC was scum.
There are ?'s because he said 'scum', not 'Werewolf' or 'Lunatic' or whatnot.

[Andrius]

EBWOP: And I doubt whether the dream was legit or not, as crypto was lynched that day.
He did however, flip town, so perhaps it was a personal gambit.

[Andrius]

That diagram did NOT help me at all.

Why not?

[Andrius]

Well fine. The point is, when someone else flips

we

I can go back and look at it and question their claimed dreams, and if they were dreamed of by anyone.
It helps me.

[Andrius]

As for lynches, I'd like to finish my 2nd read of the thread before the lynch is made.
And yeah, the Alliance is only so good as we're all town, and since we have no way of knowing that, there could easily be scum chilling with us.

[Andrius]

So fine. RC, who do you want to lynch?

[Andrius]

EBWOP: and why.

[Andrius]

20. Dry-fit (dreamed innocent by a Werewolf)
9. Deer (dreamed innocent by a Ghoul)

12. inHimshallibe (no dreams about this player)
19. Nachomamma8 (no dreams about this player)
21. My Milked Eek (no dreams about this player)

...and I recommend against lynching xReck, SV, or Andrius.


Out of those, I'm gonna go with lynching Nacho for now, until/unless anything else develops.

Wait, so who do you want to lynch?
Is it the Dry-fit/Deer group, of the inHim/Nacho/MME group?

Nacho replaced... Jackalope2323, if I'm correct. Wasn't too thrilled with his play D1, and he got a sizeable wagon as well. Nearly lynched.

[Andrius]

OK. CAN WE MOVE AWAY FROM THE ALLIANCE DISCUSSION?
AND NO MORE DREAMS.
I think we've seen the last of those, with none from N6.

I will reread and post my thoughts. Hopefully we can get a good lynch.

[Andrius]

God I feel like when I'm not here this place goes to hell.

Seriously. Can we not wait a bit for me to read?! RC, you value my opinion and insight but you're trying to get a MME lynch going as fast as possible? Hold off for a bit.
Look, I don't know what this secret info is, but if it helps the town I don't see why not. I'm sure you're not the only NK-target out there, especially with multiple, competing scum and 3rd
party factions.

*reading back over the past 2 pages*

[Andrius]

God I feel like when I'm not here this place goes to hell.

Seriously. Can we not wait a bit for me to read?! RC, you value my opinion and insight but you're trying to get a MME lynch going as fast as possible? Hold off for a bit.
Look, I don't know what this secret info is, but if it helps the town I don't see why not. I'm sure you're not the only NK-target out there, especially with multiple, competing scum and 3rd
party factions.

*reading back over the past 2 pages*

Who said I value your opinion and insight?!!?

You are supposed to auto-vote anyone I vote for. That's the whole point of the alliance.

When MME flips scum, then we can talk about whether or not the alliance is getting us anywhere.

Savvy?

I was only trying to give myself a little self-esteem boost, RC. You don't really care.

Well, seeing as how Follow-Fate worked pretty well in 'Go Play In Traffic', Follow-RC might be reasonable.

For now I will
VOTE: inHimshallibe in the hopes that he'll come out and play with us.

[Andrius]

I guess you could say, RC, that you value my opinion, so long as my opinion is in the form of a vote for MME.

[Andrius]

"

Well, seeing as how Follow-Fate worked pretty well in 'Go Play In Traffic', Follow-RC might be reasonable

"
~ Andrius also known as the player who is doing what I said people would be doing in the alliance late game: shrugging off responsibility. gg common sense, gg

MME, way to misrepresent.
I am not following RC blindly.
If I were I'd be spouting out SECRETS SECRETS and already have voted you a page ago.
So please. You misinterpret me.
I have maintained that I am going to reread sometime soon, become educated, and report back.
I am not blindly voting anyone.
So please. Don't just lump me together with RC.
At least he's an active player, so talking to him is worth something.

[Andrius]

I'm not denying that, MME.
DAMN IT.
I AM NOT POSTING HERE UNTIL MY READ IS DONE.
I will then have solid reads on your play, and will then be able to judge your play.
I am not denying I said that, MME. I just do not want to lose my alliance-status with RC in the event that I find him town.

[Andrius]

BOTH OF YOU PLEASE SHUT UP.
Thank you. You're making the reread longer than it needs to be, and having both of you yell at each other for pages on end is stupid. Makes me not want to read it.
ZazieR has been up for replacement longer than lukepukeduke had been, so.
How about we lynch ZazieR and save KoC some replacement hunting?
/joking, only joking

[Andrius]

Goddammit Eek. I'm really sad you pretty much committed suicide-by-cop here. (Though you might not know what that means, since you're from Belgium.)

But yeah. I can't comment on the setup until the end, as I only know my role to the fullest. I'm sorry you feel this way, and I hope that I can play with you again.

Now for the rest of you.
This will be a modkill whether I hammer or not.
It should still be DayPhase after the modkill.
I'm still slogging through the horrendouesly-long D1 right now.
RC, now that Eek is pretty much dead, care to explain your secret? Or does it still require some secrecy?

BAH. Will post more after rereading.
So we're probably looking at either another scumfaction yet undiscovered, or the remnants of the Werewolves and/or a Lunatic.

I'm sad to see a player suicide, but at least he was scum. :/

I'll also be pondering the Goat suicide as well, since both him and Eek said many interesting things related to the scum factions.

[Andrius]

EBWOP: And we now know that the 'Reds' were a faction together.

[Andrius]

Look, Eek.
If I lynch you then we could lose the daily lynch.
This cannot happen.

NO ONE HAMMER EEK.

If you are the last scum, we win.
If not, we need this lynch.

[Andrius]

Yeah, for a moment.
The way all the roles were titled made them seem like seperate entities, rather than a scumgroup.

[Andrius]

And KoC, had you not denied the Warhammer allude, I would have believed it.

[Andrius]

Ok, I was thinking same-color Serial Killers. :\ /fail
Hi RC.

EEk, you totally claimed scum. Goat claimed scum and was modkilled.
I'm betting you're modkilled.

[Andrius]

RC, spending the lynch on a modkill-target has questionable motives. You want us to waste the lynch on an imminent modkill?

I'm all for honour, really. But we have to think of the town before the scum.

[Andrius]

*facepalm*
As long as those words aren't engraved on your tombstone...

[Andrius]

Sorry. I was getting food.
What the hell.
If this is the end, I'd like to be able to say I actually

did

something after replacing in. :/

Vote: My Milked Eek

This will be a modkill though. Rule 10 and all. :/

[Andrius]

/care

Hm?

[Andrius]

I always get lynched.
All but one game.
(Greek Mythos semi-counts, as I was lynched, but my fellow Mafia Bodyguard took the lynch for me. So I lived. And won.)

[Andrius]

G'night RC.
I'll just put my read on hold for now, and see what happens.
See you guys later. /lonely and bored

[Andrius]

/ninja'd. Hi SV.

[Andrius]

Epic win!
I was the Physician, who was pretty much the most awesome role ever! I was a Doctor when targetting a non-Werewolf, a Roleblocker when targetting a Werewolf, and a Vigilante if I chose to overdose someone.
So I had a bit of everything!
Good game guys. I'm glad I read through and replaced in.
Oh, and I was the only Physician too. So the only way someone could have OD'd was if I Vig'd them.
Awesome role, KoC!
And a great game too.

[Andrius]

RC, I was trying to get you to claim.
I made the big "Pastry-Maker" post in the hopes you'd understand that I was Doc. :/
Even though I only worked against Werewolves. :\

[Andrius]

Good game though, KoC, as long as I was here. (3 days.)

And its a shame that I couldn't Vig anyone. I feel smart though, semi-outsmarting the mod.