Mafia 37: Werewolves - Game over!

[BabyJesus]

It looks like I'll be taking over for Locus....can someone give me a summary of whats happened?

[BabyJesus]

Look-Who's-Here Vote Count

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esme - 7 (Bamboomancer, CoolBot, milkman, Phoebus, mikehart, NanookTheWolf, PookyTheMagicalBear)

milkman - 2 (Stam, draygn_mage)
CoolBot - 1 (Peacebringer)
Peacebringer - 1 (Dranko20)
Locus Cosecant - 1 (esme)

Not voting (7): Coron, d_rouge, Nonchalance, BabyJesus, Mastermind of Sin, Save the Dragons, rolandofthewhite

With 19 alive, it will take 10 to lynch.

BabyJesus replaces Locus Cosecant effective...about 14 minutes ago.

Hooray for participation, even though replacing in this game means he'll break his streak...no Day One to be lynched in!

No deadline yet.

why are we voting esme????

[BabyJesus]

OK< from what I reread, it seem esme came under heat and tried to start a bandwagon on Locus for no other reason then he wasn't around.

Not cool.

Vote Esme

[BabyJesus]

hmm, thats right I replaced in here, lol...I forgot.

Who are our confirmed innocents again? Dranko=seer, right?

[BabyJesus]

vote STD

kinda lost to be honest, but I know STD is not a confirmed innocent, when in doubt, follow the cop...

[BabyJesus]

I found a bit odd STD willingness to go after the people on the esme bandwagon. I mean: people with no information could have been there as much as scum.

Ah! It all makes perfect sense now! You have no information. So you go kill esme, instead of trying to do something!

This is beyond a bad wagon...it's like Esmegate.

The reason I voted esme was kinda fascist: the goal is to rid the town of mafia; she was in the way.

Now, I'm completely convinced that that's the only reason anyone has voted esme this game. And that's really sad.

Is not your question answered, d_rouge?

bizarre statement-

Unvote D_rouge
vote STD

Ouch. Forgive me for being cynical. Am I not allowed to joke?

joking is scummy....

[BabyJesus]

this train is as good as any....

vote milkman

[BabyJesus]

I'm started to think I'm naive, and if I am, it doesn't matter, but if I'm sane then it does matter.

I investigated milkman N2, and he's clean. That's if I'm not naive.

Other then only having innocents, any reason to think you are naive? Is naive cop a common role...I thought it was fairly rare.

Well,

unvote for now

Since I replaced in this game, I don't remember...were there any more confirmed innocents?

[BabyJesus]

[
d_rouge has been released from custody this morning as well.[/b]

This bears hearing from d_rouge also.....

[BabyJesus]

Well, I was voting STD yesterday, so for lack of a better target (not going for a viewed innocent just yet) I will

vote Save the Dragons

[BabyJesus]

I'm immune to only werewolf nightkills, vigilantes can still kill me, well why wouldn't a vigilante be able to kill a werewolf? *eye roll*

If you're a werewolf, shouldn't we lynch you??

[BabyJesus]

Also, if nothing else, if we DON'T lynch Pooky, is it worth having Dranko investigate him so we can find out for sure if he is naive??

[BabyJesus]

The good news for us is that the werewolves can't kill him directly so as long as the lover stays hidden **

[BabyJesus]

what? why do you at me? Is Pooky coming forward not a good thing?

** takes out his n00b sign and hangs it round his neck ** lest you all forget.

No, the was my sarcastic disbelief in Pooky's claim.

[BabyJesus]

trying to feel out if you can find support for a bandwagon on teh Pooky and force her lover into the open enh scumbucket?

I think I've found where my vote belongs today.

vote BabyJesus

so let me get this straight. You're turned into a werewolf. But wait, You're a GOOD werewolf, not the mean kind. Sadly, you still come up guilty to a cop investigation, which is why you so helpfully told us all before hand you were a good werewolf.

But WAIT! There is no danger of you being killed by werewolves...because you are immune!

So you outed yorself to let the cop test his sanity, but proceed to VOTE for the very person the cop investigated as Innocent. That makes NO sense to me....if you really wanted to help determine the sanity of the cop, why would you want to lynch his viewee before that is determined.....

[BabyJesus]

Oh... Oops. I forgot that you were investigated.

Unvote

.

Who has been investigated, btw? I'm too lazy to read back. -.-

No, I'm not talking about Pooky's OMGUS vote on me, I'm talking about his initial vote on milkman. Milkman was the investigated innocent.

[BabyJesus]

In that case...

Vote: BabyJesus

. :oops

I guess you gotta get rid of people that doubt pooky, huh....

[BabyJesus]

You really effed up those quote tags.

The reason that I'm not voting for Pooky is that I think Dranko should investigate him tonight, so we can figure out of he is sane or naive. Then, we could lynch him tomorrow, him having served his purpose.

Mod, if Dranko were to investigate Pooky, and Pooky was also vigkilled, would Dranko get a result?

There's another possibility.

I see you checked in....no reason for your vote yet? very well,

unvote, vote roland

I distrust Pooky, and I distrust you for following right along with whatever plan you two cooked up...

[BabyJesus]

My lover is Dragyn_Mage, he can confirm that.
...

can he confirm there is no way you are a BAD werewolf??

[BabyJesus]

Do you really think a bad werewolf would jump into the bloody spotlight like this to try to help the TOWN out?

Sigh....

I don't know...and I'm not voting you today, I just remain skeptical. I suppose you could be telling the truth, just seems a bit suspicious.

[BabyJesus]

Dead man walking! Dead man walking!

*sigh*

I am Pooky's lover. (No wonder I've been so itchy lately, you're getting a flea dip.)

I had no idea that he was a werewolf, but yes, if you lynch him I die. If you lynch me, he dies.

interesting....

Do the two of you have a separate win condition?

I guess leaving pooky around for a bit is fine...if he's telling the truth he'll eventually be taken out by the wolves.

I like my roland vote though..

[BabyJesus]

If Pooky/Dragon_Mage manage to survive the night, then I highly suggest a lynch on Pooky. If the alliance isn't known by the other lover, then it isn't known by the town, which in turn is bad for the town.

With that stipulation, there is 0% chance that the werewolves will kill them though...

[BabyJesus]

can we lynch pooky now???

vote pooky

[BabyJesus]

Very well.

unvote, vote save the dragons

[BabyJesus]

Er...wha?
You're following him?
Pooky mentioned he would be seen as evil.
Dranko's obviously naive or lying scum.
I was just about to help you bandwagon Pooky.

I just really want to lynch STD....

[BabyJesus]

oh fine.

unvote, vote pooky

[BabyJesus]

I escaped the wrath of BJ for now...

If you get a day-vig role I'm going to be so pissed.

that would be SO sweet..... 8)

[BabyJesus]

Btw can any one of you people on my wagon tell me a single good reason for lynching me when I came out under no pressure at all?

Cmon? Just one?!?

you DID say you were a werewolf......I thought we were hunting them....

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote peacebringer

Not so sure anymore on pooky, and if we're wrong we lose two....

And wtf is with Peacebringer stating in one post he doesn;t want to pile on, the going ahead and doing it anyway?? He could be a gg still, but I want to put a little pressure on him so I can tell, he's not great under pressure when scum...

[BabyJesus]

Since I don't think Pooky is scum, I'll put my vote on one of the other bandwagons, to see if we can manage to get a majority on somebody else.

vote: STD

Do you know how many games I'm getting bandwagoned in?

[BabyJesus]

Since I don't think Pooky is scum, I'll put my vote on one of the other bandwagons, to see if we can manage to get a majority on somebody else.

vote: STD

Do you know how many games I'm getting bandwagoned in?

Yeah, and this guy's responsible for a few.

[BabyJesus]

Didn't pooky turn out to be lying about his werewolf ness in an attempt to catch dranko or something? That was my understanding of the situation.

Lynch All Liars!

wait....so you guys think we should lynch him for lying ABOUT BEING A WEREWOLF


Am I the only one lost here?

[BabyJesus]

also,

fos

at Nanook for quoting jeep, when that quote is not in this thread anywhere, I'm not sure quotes not in this thread from players not in this game have much relevance. Especially stupid quotes like "lynch all liars"

[BabyJesus]

Didn't pooky turn out to be lying about his werewolf ness in an attempt to catch dranko or something? That was my understanding of the situation.

Lynch All Liars!

wait....so you guys think we should lynch him for lying ABOUT BEING A WEREWOLF


Am I the only one lost here?

ok, back to this post.....why would Nanook want to lynch Pooky for lying about being a werewolf? If pooky DID lie...it means he is innocent. Not saying whether he is or not, as it seems nonsensical for pooky to come ouit of nowhere to lie like that...but I fail to see Nanook's logic here.

This is fishy as hell, so I will

vote Nanook

[BabyJesus]

The lynch all liars bit that I quoted from Jeep isn't from another game BJ, it's pretty well known on the site, kinda like your kendall bit, so don't even try to use that as part of your offense against me.

Your "lynch al liars" bit is stupid and naieve....people lie as GG's just as much as when scum.

[BabyJesus]

You know BJ, you take that to seriously .. I wasn't even using that as part of my offense .. if you want to take it that way then more power to you, but do not use it against me.

.. and in all honesty I don't buy that all gg's lie as much as the bgs, at least from when I play. When I'm good I try not to lie, and when bad I have to lie, so go figure.

The part I'm "using against you" is you have yet to prove Pooky is lying...if you have a reason to dispute his claim, fine, but I'm still note sure exactly what you think he is lying about....

You DID say this:

My logic is that he very well could be lying about the fact that he was lying about being a werewolf, I mean you all are driving me crazy on this issue, and I can't believe that Pooky is actually skating by in some of your minds

That makes no sense..you think Pooky is a werewolf who outed himself to test our cop for ?? reason exactly?

[BabyJesus]

vote mastermind of sin

[BabyJesus]

Any reason, BabyJesus?

Just a feeling given the info of Nanook being wolf....reading back through it, he dropped a vote casually onto Pooky like Nanook did. and never reacted, makes me wonder if the goal all along of the wolves yesterday was to try and get Pooky lynched, and he was just going along with the plan.

[BabyJesus]

Look! A New Page! And A New Vote Count!

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PookyTheMagicalBear - 6 (Phoebus, Save the Dragons, NanookTheWolf, PeaceBringer, milkman, Mastermind of Sin)

NanookTheWolf - 4 (draygn_mage, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, BabyJesus)
PeaceBringer - 1 (Bamboomancer)
Mastermind of Sin - 1 (d_rouge)

Not voting (2): Coron, Dranko20.

With 14 alive, 8 votes will cause a lynch.

Just grabbing a snapshot of the votecount before the Nanook train overtook Pooky's. I found it convenient that it was at this point that MOS dropped off his vote on Pooky, as if to deflect from the rising Nanook train. If someone has more evidence though, I'm all for it.

[BabyJesus]

I STILL don't like the fact that Pooky is alive. Killing him is like a dual kill for the Wolves....

Do you somehow know that they didn't try last night???

interesting...

[BabyJesus]

This whole suicide thing is getting a little old....

I will be voting an onvoter of the Peacebringer runup - that went so quick, I gotta imagine there's a couple scum that hopped on.


PeaceBringer - 6 (draygn_mage, Bamboomancer, PookyTheMagicalBear, d_rouge, rolandofthewhite, PeaceBringer)

I will

vote roland

Hopping on the end of PB's train, plus some other suggestions, (the whole vig Pooky thing earlier) strikes me as a little suspicious.

I realize he has already claimed villager....not sure what info I want to get from him. I DO want to see who voted for him, and who votes elsewhere.... I have a couple other suspicions, so we shall see.

[BabyJesus]

Ugh.

I will vote roland Hopping on the end of PB's train

PB hopped on the end of his own train. How was I suppose to know that he'd be an idiot and lynch himself?

That's how it should be.

obviously you wouldn't - bu that train on Peace got going very fast though, and I'm going to assume there's probably two wolves on it.... If Pooky and dragyn are clean, that means my prime suspicions today are on Bamboomancer, d_rouge, and rolandofthewhite.

[BabyJesus]

Lurking is NOT one of my scum tells.

Oh. ok.

If everyone could go ahead and admit to what their scum tells ARE, it'd be appreciated.

[BabyJesus]

Don't blame me when you lose then.

I'm gonna claim now... I started the game as a villiager, and night one for some reason I was turned into a townie... I'm not sure if that was just a typo by the mod or if being a mafia type person means something or what... but whatever.

what means this?? turned into a townie??

[BabyJesus]

looking back through my pms, I'm missing both that one and my actual role pm, I'm sending a request to the mod for additional information..

that's a shame....

[BabyJesus]

According to the mod, said pm didn't exist, must be thinking of something else. Vote stands.

so you never got turned into a townie....

[BabyJesus]

No one wants to go roland with me.....

Not sure what's going on with the Coron misstep. He has been VERY defensive though....I fail to see how a villager could get confused about being "turned into a townie" though. Fake gone wrong, I don't know. very well,

unvote, vote coron

.

[BabyJesus]

Not gonna toss any hasty votes out there today. I want to see if anyone was:
1 - Avoiding the Nanook lynch
and
2 - Involved in the speedlynch of Peacebringer, which went down FAR too fast.

[BabyJesus]

Final Day Five Vote Count

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NanookTheWolf - 8 (draygn_mage, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, BabyJesus, d_rouge, Dranko20, Bamboomancer, PeaceBringer)

PookyTheMagicalBear - 4 (Phoebus, Save the Dragons, milkman, Mastermind of Sin)

Not voting (2): Coron, NanookTheWolf.

Final Day Seven Vote Count

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PeaceBringer - 6 (draygn_mage, Bamboomancer, PookyTheMagicalBear, d_rouge, rolandofthewhite, PeaceBringer)

Not voting (5): Coron, Dranko20, Werebear (was milkman), BabyJesus, Save the Dragons.

Hmm. Not cut and dry.... Bamboomancer jumps out at me, possible wolf jumping on his buddy at the end when it was obvious he was toast?

I find it very unlikely there would not be a wolf on the Peacebringer lynch. Can't see THAT many gg's piling up withough pausing to reconsider.

[BabyJesus]

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[BabyJesus]

Look! A New Page! And A New Vote Count!

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PookyTheMagicalBear - 6 (Phoebus, Save the Dragons, NanookTheWolf, PeaceBringer, milkman, Mastermind of Sin)

NanookTheWolf - 4 (draygn_mage, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, BabyJesus)
PeaceBringer - 1 (Bamboomancer)
Mastermind of Sin - 1 (d_rouge)

Not voting (2): Coron, Dranko20.

With 14 alive, 8 votes will cause a lynch.

Here's an interesting vote snapshot. Nanook being a wolf, and being in danger...I'm betting he's not the only wolf on Pooky here. And I'm definately not voting for roland here. dragyn and Pooky obviously being lovers not voting for Pooky...but I think if roland is dirty here he piles on Pooky to finish him off.

I'm willing to bet either STD or milkman are wolves.

[BabyJesus]

Question.

Is "We elect not to kill anyone tonight" an option the bad guys can employ?

(Has there been any confirmation in other games that this can be done?)

Or must the evil guys try to kill? (And no kills are caused by role blockers.)

You tell us.... 8)

[BabyJesus]

vote Bamboomancer

I'm liking him for scum more so then Jackal at the moment.

[BabyJesus]

Baby J, any rebuttal?

rebuttal to Bamboo attacking the guy that voted him? lol.

I'm using the Peacebringer lynch in large part because that was by far the QUICKEST, and I think the one where we are likely to get a good snapshot of a wolf piling on and getting stuck.

The Nanook lynch is actually the vote where I am mostly focused on. THAT is the one we got a wolf lynched, and also the one in which Pooky was almost lynched, while wolfNanook was being runup. That is actually the main reason I voted Bamboo - I think he's a wolf who stayed off Nanook as long as possible until it was inevitable his wolfbuddy was going down.
I think 1) That snapshot is going to most helpful for us given those facts. 2) I find it VERY interested Bamboomancer does any kind of vote/voting analysis WITHOUT looking at that lynch. I think he decided before hand he wanted to vote me, and then tried to find a way to justify it.

[BabyJesus]

Look! A New Page! And A New Vote Count!

, powered by The Count-Counter 2000:

PookyTheMagicalBear - 6 (Phoebus, Save the Dragons, NanookTheWolf, PeaceBringer, milkman, Mastermind of Sin)

NanookTheWolf - 4 (draygn_mage, PookyTheMagicalBear, rolandofthewhite, BabyJesus)
PeaceBringer - 1 (Bamboomancer)
Mastermind of Sin - 1 (d_rouge)

Not voting (2): Coron, Dranko20.

With 14 alive, 8 votes will cause a lynch.

Here's an interesting vote snapshot. Nanook being a wolf, and being in danger...I'm betting he's not the only wolf on Pooky here. And I'm definately not voting for roland here. dragyn and Pooky obviously being lovers not voting for Pooky...but I think if roland is dirty here he piles on Pooky to finish him off.

I'm willing to bet either STD or milkman are wolves.

This votecount is the only hesitation I have on Bamboomancer, as I wonder if he would have piled on Pooky to save Nanook here.... Of course, Bamboo is self-admitted he is not around much, or maybe he WOULD have?? This is the problem with lurkers. If he was more active, I'd probably clear him based on this, just like I am clearing roland.

[BabyJesus]

I JUST TOLD YOU WHO I THINK IS SCUM AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO BELIEVE ME.

hi

[BabyJesus]

I believe that BJ was very selective in how he gave out information.

lol....

[BabyJesus]

I knew it.
Why didn't the 3 of you just end it before I read 38 pages of CRAP ??????

Personally - given Werebear's limited access, I didn't want to pile on you, and leave you one away - who knows what suspicion you'd drum up on who while we waited for werebear, and dragyn may have backed off.

So while I waited I voted someone else "suspicious" to give you a chance for an alternative bandwagon, and I was planning on hopping over to you as soon as werebear showed up to put you one away.

[BabyJesus]

vote: Eat DragynMage

[BabyJesus]

Yea, that whole transition of power thing so didn't work out good for us... we were kinda scared the town might suspect that our Alpha didn't send in our role because the role itself was in transition but we did manage to play the lover probly got protected card really well

Yep - it worked for the best as I reason for lovers not being killed.

FWIW - I didn;t think Pooky's claim had a chance of being believed, which is why I was pushing my disbelief of him.....until the town seemed to buy it, so I casually switched from "that is bs" to "Pooky is confirmed"

[BabyJesus]

Love prevails over all.

It's the storybook ending! Lovers outwit cruel unaccepting society, showing that true love will triumph over all obstacles.

It's kinda like the Princess Bride and all those other love stories you guys love so much.

except we ate dragyn_mage.....

or at least I did.

[BabyJesus]

nooooo we didn't dragyn joined us cuz we need a some1 to give us back rubs.

well I did anyway...

[BabyJesus]

nooooo we didn't dragyn joined us cuz we need a some1 to give us back rubs.

well I did anyway...

That's fine... you eat draygn_mage, Werebear eats you, Pooky dies from a broken heart... and we're back where we started, with just the Alpha..err,

Bear

8)