Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[Seraphim]

Vote: Karma

WHERE IS YOUR RANDOM VOTE, SOLDIER?! CONFORM OR BE SHOT!

[Seraphim]

Actually,

Unvote
Vote: TheLonging

for confusing people.

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: Tasky

for voting me based on faulty premises. A good player should keep his mind open to new possibilities.

[Seraphim]

Here, try this: I'm the angelic being, he's the weird mutant type thing.

Actually, I've been in need of a new avatar...lemme go find one.

[Seraphim]

Yeah, sure, I'll go and find that...I stole it off some original concept art for the game made by the designers...hold on...

[Seraphim]

SPY'S SAPPIN MAH SENTRY.

[Seraphim]

by the fact that he's gandalf5166 rather than aforementioned units 5165 and 5167.

also, more people should be voting Tasky for double-standards, BTW.

[Seraphim]

Basically, this:

let's have a good game and start by:

VOTE: Seraphim

for having changed his mind so soon after the game started

and then you switch your vote, 15 posts later:

UNVOTE: Seraphim
VOTE: ReaperCharlie

for posting stupid/funny pictures

Sounds like a double standard to me.

[Seraphim]

In other words, you accuse me of something and then proceed to do aforementioned thing in your next post. That's a double-standard, son, and in the RVS, it reeks.

In the other game I just started with you, you changed your vote 4 times within the first half of the day (real time) and got very defensive about it. Something very suspicious about your play style.

I was going to ask you about this, but then decided against it because it concerns an ongoing game, which you shouldn't talk about. However, I find it very odd you are using an ongoing game you just started to justify wagoning a player. His playstyle seeming "suspicious" in one game doesn't implicate him as scum in this one.

So, basically, do you find his play to be suspicious in this game or what?

[Seraphim]

don't stop relying on meta, stop relying on ONGOING meta. Important difference. The info is useless unless you know his alignment.

Why aren't more people voting Tasky?

[Seraphim]

Alright, first of all,

I don't rely on meta cause I've played too many games where meta basically helped town lose.

If you rely on meta completely, you will lose. But it can be a helpful tool if applied correctly(which is it often not). Also, Longing is scummy for the bolded:

I don't think it is.

Double-standards are very anti-town.

Anyways when Tasky gets back I'll decide if my vote should stay.

Double-standards aren't necessarily anti-town, or even scummy really. especially in the context it was used in, the RVS, it hardly matters at all.

Also, both gandalf and SharkFinn seem very happy simply to join on the wagon without really explaining WHY double-standards are "a serious offense". Shark, like longing, seems overly serious about the wagon. gandalf is quick to switch his vote to Longing, but we'll see.

diginova almost seems overtly cautious...L-4 on page 2 is not excessive, lynch on page 2 would be excessive, everything else is very much allowed. Being wary of an RVS wagon doesn't seem like much to be worried about.

Given this statement we should expect no attacks from you later on in the game based on the premise of inconsistency in reads I take it?

You can expect of me whatever you want to. I play like I want, when I want.

Why is being self-inconsistent in the RVS inherently worse than out of RVS, which is your implication.

It's not. And I'll be the first to admit that my wagon and my subsequent pushing of the wagon was almost completely RVS driven. No better way to get out of RVS than a good ole wagon.

Zang's attack on the theLonging wagon is wrong. There's more reasoning on it than the Tasky wagon. But he seems to read VI ATM, so we'll see about that I guess.

VOTE: TheLonging

This is a good wagon.

[Seraphim]

Hey, guys, CKD is town. Honestly. I've played with him enough to know.

[Seraphim]

Hey, Reaper, I gave you an avatar, get your ass on the theLonging wagon.

[Seraphim]

People dislike double standards because it's very similar to lying. Why do you think double standards are okay, Seraphim?

The hell...I never said they were okay. I said that in the paticular context of the situation, it wasn't a scumtell. I was pushing the wagon for
A. reactions
B. teh lulz

Nice misrep though. I got some nice reactions too, some of them from town, some of them from scum.

Like TheLonging, who is still scum.

Let's start with my defense of CKD. I'm going to let him defend himself but the effort trying to get CKD lynched is wasted ATM because I'm nearly positive that he's town. If you want links, go find them yourself. It's been a while, the game I was/is with him recently is currently ongoing, the rest were in the days of yesteryear and probably in the archieve. All I know is that CKD is angry...and angry CKD is generally town CKD until proven otherwise.


Alright, now for theLonging. I read your response, and I find you scummy for completely different reasons. If you want to play the sarcasm game, go ahead. It just gets me angrier.

Let's start this up, then. First of all, you seem to use a lot of personal attacks when defending yourself. This is a very clever tactic to attempt to downplay your attackers' "cred" when facing you.

Examples:

Alright, if you say so Master Overlord

How about this, find reasons for you finding me scum, then it won't be as sheepy as this shows.

I agree, especially since Sera has convinced himself he never needs to think about anything else I post, the stuff I posted before he made his vote was such a well-made case that we can ignore my new posts.

Secondly:

You clearly don't know me then, as I joke around in pretty much every game I am, regardless of alignment, though I can see how you think that would be a scumtell.

For someone who claims to dislike meta, it's odd that you'd use self-meta here. I always joke around as town and scum!

Double-standard, BTW. Other people can't meta other players but I can use meta to defend myself.

And, in fact, pushing double standards being so evil and then using double-standards yourself IS ALSO A DOUBLESTANDARD. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.

[Seraphim]

Alright, a miller claim? That just about seals it for me, lynch lynch lynch.

[Seraphim]

and Tasky just hammered if my counting is correct.

[Seraphim]

Aren't millers usually not told that they are millers?

On this site, millers are usually told they are millers or at least given some idea that they are millers.

[Seraphim]

I actually think gandalf might be scum. Then again, gandalf is always scum so we'll see.

[Seraphim]

...what the fuck?

[Seraphim]

Vote: Sharkfinn

Yeaaaah...voting for dead people....yeeeeah...

[Seraphim]

and it looks like GhostWriter was able to leave us a message. Unfortunately, it's not very helpful though if someone wants to check for breadcrumbs, go for it.

[Seraphim]

From what I can read of the role and the other kills, the kill on Gandalf was not intended by any of the killing roles last night. However, that's not the main reason I'm voting SharkFinn. Check him out in iso.

I do agree with you regarding Tasky though. Some terribad votes yesterday.

Unvote
Vote: Tasky

[Seraphim]

Mod: will be V/LA from today until the 24th

[Seraphim]

Can someone explain to me what exactly made the time traveler role different from the non time traveler roles?