Open 226: Big Love - Game over! Town wins!

[Robocopter87]

ill just /confirm like the rest of these people

[Robocopter87]

If yabba means to talk a lot then yabbaguy is definitely living up to his name.

[Robocopter87]

VOTE: YABBAGUY

Hes being extremly annoying.

[Robocopter87]

Also, I went there with the Uppercase.

[Robocopter87]

Wow, I totally got owned by my own avatar there.

[Robocopter87]

I will never post like this again.

Good because it was stupid.
I have not been annoying. You have just posted some stupid fluff. And thats

about

it. I think that you are just scum trying to look town and doing a horrible job of it so I voted you. And you respond by calling me annoying back? I am annoyed but not annoying.

[Robocopter87]

UNVOTE: YABBA
VOTE: Millar13

Die scum!

[Robocopter87]

Explain please?

@Robocopter I agree with SSS. Please explain your vote.

If everything had an explanation than we'd all explode.

[Robocopter87]

Also,
I have a view on self voting and self hammering but my tangible evidence is in an ongoing game so I can't show it.

I think that self voting/hammering as town is extremely stupid. I think that self voting/hammering as scum has certain times where it is appropriate but should be used as a last resort.

The self vote in this game was just stupid.

[Robocopter87]

Why don't you actually read the whole thing and then say to yourself, "OK he isn't talking about it or posting it. I don't have to flip out."

[Robocopter87]

Your telling me early on you flip out so that later when you go all FLIPPING OUT IM TOWN when your at L-1 its what you do?

[Robocopter87]

???

[Robocopter87]

I see what you are asking, selfvoting is scummy. Self votes are only useful to scum, even they use it as a last resort. But yes, scummy, they are.

[Robocopter87]

Not necessarily a scumtell, there have been times townies have argued for pages. it doesn't mean anything.

I've done it multiple times as scum. One of them is in Newbie 905. Day one I fought it out with someone. Got all AtE on them. I ended up losing that game with me in LyLo I wasn't there and hadn't V/LA'd and they killed me because it was so obvious.

[Robocopter87]

unvote, vote chihuahua

this policy votes thing needs to stop.

[Robocopter87]

I think I will ISO Shattered. Just to see what Yabba means.

[Robocopter87]

Holy crap. That took five seconds. I don't know what Yabba was aiming for but that was extremly stupid and scummy. He hasn't done anything besides fluff and joke around. He's V/LA right now so keeping vote on Chiauahua.

How many votes does he have?

Mod, Can we pweeeeeeese have a vote count? Pweeese?

[Robocopter87]

[Robocopter87]

Do lovers commit suicide if partners are lynched? Are you serious?

[Robocopter87]

Way to totally ignore me Don.

[Robocopter87]

Why is Muthaa is even voting for me anymore?

Also, Yes Don, I want you to answer. You legitimately asked if lovers commit suicide if their partners are lynched. Yes they do and you should know that, I can't believe you asked a question like that 7 pages in on a Big Love. Its just makes Robo go grrrrrrr.

[Robocopter87]

I wanted to know if you were really serious about the lover thing. If you Join a game based on a role then you ought know what that role means. The whole point of being a lover is the suicide the next night. Well its not the whole point but its a big point. And to be wondering about it seven pages into a BIG love is kinda disappointing no?

Also, you can use capitalization. I always remember my first game where I typed like it was a frigging chat box and everyone told me not too. Since then I type in complete, literate sentences and preview my message before posting.

[Robocopter87]

I wanted to know if you were really serious about the lover thing.

why?

To be honest with you its stupid not to know what a lover is in a big love. There. I didn't want to call you stupid.

If you Join a game based on a role then you ought know what that role means.

why? its a "game". if i can find out by asking other players, why not go with it?

Yes it is a game but you should know the important information before joining. Like what do Lovers do in a BIG love. Seriously, how many times do I have to say that not knowing what a Lover does in a big love is dumb? Cmon get the Memo. The scary part is you've played in a Lover before. And you WERE a lover. Kinda pathetic really.

Also, you can use capitalization. I always remember my first game where I typed like it was a frigging chat box and everyone told me not too. Since then I type in complete, literate sentences and preview my message before posting.

oreally? HOW'S THIS? KTHNXBYE.

Your welcome.

[Robocopter87]

Uhm, robo? Is it really a big deal?

No one finds it disturbing he asked a question like that seven pages into a Big love and has played a love game before and has been a lover and still asks a question on whether or not lovers commit suicide after partners death. Its just kinda like, "wonder what happened in his first love game".

Also Shattered, I really am hating the OMGUS thing you got going on there. I say your few post were very scummy, which they were. So you vote me as soon as your off V/LA. Wow.

[Robocopter87]

Millar what did you just do? Are you a vig type person? Was that real? Did that end Day one?

Millar, start talking.

[Robocopter87]

Oooo totally flipped out on Millar before remembering it was an Open game, no Vig. Millar just wants shattered dead. Why must Millar act so pointlessly?

[Robocopter87]

Why Millar? why are you acting like this?

[Robocopter87]

And the point of that was?

[Robocopter87]

You know what Millar, I'll let you humor me. I'll play along with this, for a short time of course. We'll say how this plays out for now.

[Robocopter87]

Of course not,

[Robocopter87]

I was Millars Lover before this game started.

[Robocopter87]

You approve because hes defending you. His vote is misplaced, I never voted Don because of the question, my vote is on chi. I just was disturbed by the question.

Also, Millar, way to totally realize that your not my lover. That woulld be an awkward date. oops, sorry I'm not interested in you via my pm sent to me.

This will get votes but
"If you wanna be my lover!"
Song rocks, and you can't say crap about it.

[Robocopter87]

Whoa Yabba. You misintrepreted what I said in that quote.

I meant Shattered was scummy not you. I was talking about his ISO. When I said that I don't know what you were aiming for was I didn't know why you wanted me to ISO.

[Robocopter87]

Though I dislike the question, it isn't enough to vote. I don't find Don scummy I just find his questions stupid. Big difference.

Policy voting is scummy. Chihuahua isn't doing anything but active lurking. Simple as that. And Active lurking is one of the most scummiest things in my book.

[Robocopter87]

I said ACTIVE lurking. Meaning, you post so you don't get prodded and your posts have no content.

I'll even have examples.
Here have a list in ISO#s.

Wow. I just went through your ISOs and realized you haven't posted enough to even have a long list of ISO #s of active lurking. So you know what? I am going to go PBP and show what you've done. I forget who asked me for a case but here goes.

ISO#0
Confirm- Null

ISO#1
Fluffy question of Nulliness

ISO#2
Re-quotes Fluffy question, why not just state in your other post? O right, you need to have something to post, instead of nothing. This is known as active lurking. Which is scummy.
First scumtell.

ISO#3
I don't understand this one at all. He says me and Yabba arguing is a scumtell. Then votes me.

ISO#4
People call him out on the above point. He replies in this post by saying that he was afraid to be called out on bandwagoneering. If you thought Yabba was scum and he had votes, why not try and advocate for his lynch? Then go for me the next day. He also said in this post that it was a random vote. No, it wasn't. So you lying and lying is scummy in almost every occasion including this one with a few rare exceptions.

ISO#5
Says he got in trouble again because of what he said. Fluff. Active lurking. Then changes the subject to lovertells. Scummy. More active lurking.

ISO#6
Hate this. Policy vote. SCUMMY.

ISO#7
Don wants more Chihuahua votes, don't blame him. Says Don offended him. Which is a load of crap. FoS's, which do nothing in this game. Then says he had some defined reason for policy vote. Which never happened... Scummy...

ISO#8
You know what, this is townie like for the most part I guess. I'll give you that.

ISO#9
Never really understood what he was talking about with people calling him zero.
Actually answered Don's question but I'm not going there.
This post handled the situation right. This one was townie.

ISO#10
Last post.
Says he wasn't lurking. I meant active lurking, so that is why I made this post.
Though Millar is doing it wrong, he's confusing the Mafia. If he is Town, the Mafia are deciding whether or not hes bluffing. If he's Mafia, the better for us! So whatever Millars doing, its not too bad though it is kinda annoying.

[Robocopter87]

Though hes starting to clear up and straighten he still has been more scummy than Town. I'm leaving my vote here for now until something important comes up.

[Robocopter87]

Good thing he was lying about being my Lover.

UNVOTE: Chihuahua
VOTE: Millar13

[Robocopter87]

Well, are you the treacherous Lover?

[Robocopter87]

Millar, you can reclaim yourself.

Just give a few reasons. Start analyzing and

communicating

results with us. So we can get where your coming from. You're never any use to us if you just start blabbering on about being someones lover.

Please, so we can all have a little common sense and some peace of mind.
UNVOTE: Millar

For now, to see if he complies. If he does not, he is of no use to us and a burden. One of the many reasons village idiots are so detrimental is that in LyLo people can't focus and choose scum because the VI is screaming "IM SO SCUMMY" and just gets in the way. We can't have that.

[Robocopter87]

Burden Smurden?

Dude, your just being a jerk. Its a game. Chill out. why join a game if your going to act like this?

[Robocopter87]

Alright, I want Millar out.

VOTE: Millar

[Robocopter87]

You think you should trust him? I thought that to. But no. I can't.

Heres an Idea Xite, why don't you ISO him? You really should just look through his posts. He doesn't care about this game. Simple as that. The only way to get rid of him is to kill him. Simple, isn't it?

Also, Why Am I scummy?

[Robocopter87]

No no no, I meant ISO millar. I just did and I started laughing.

[Robocopter87]

For now, to see if he complies. If he does not, he is of no use to us and a burden. One of the many reasons village idiots are so detrimental is that in LyLo people can't focus and choose scum because the VI is screaming "IM SO SCUMMY" and just gets in the way. We can't have that.

You don't remember me saying this? This is why I want Millar lynch. Because right now hes being the VI. We will most likely mislynch, why not take care of a burden to the town while we are at it?

[Robocopter87]

Theres a downside to everyone's argument.

[Robocopter87]

Well, what do you want me to do about it? What do you suggest I do? What would you do in my situation?

Also, not being sarcastic on these questions, I would like an answer.

[Robocopter87]

In my situation, meaning if you were me right now.

[Robocopter87]

No, Millar isn't my Lover. I don't think I would kill someone that would lose the town two people and take myself down too.

You've never heard of the infamous Millar? Millar is a marathon legend. But an old one, I don't think he still has that much fame in that area either anymore.

[Robocopter87]

Alright, Millar is not acting like he is in other games. I want him dead.

[Robocopter87]

Mod, Can we get a vote count? Plz and thanks.

[Robocopter87]

Okay, I just wanted to make sure Millar wasn't at l-1. Hes at L-3 I think.

[Robocopter87]

Wow, decided to actually care have we, Millar?

[Robocopter87]

I am soooooo not unvoting because Xite thinks he knows Millar is town. Theres only one way to know that...

[Robocopter87]

So your really gonna kill six people to find one scum?

[Robocopter87]

We should use our skills to scumhunt. We will lose One Townie instead of five this way. If we kill the treacherous lover through logical reasoning we will do better. You are suggesting a more detrimental process then needed.

[Robocopter87]

Can we just kill him and just get on with it?

[Robocopter87]

3 lover groups, Five townie Lovers, One scum lover.

[Robocopter87]

Your to stubborn. You fail to cooperate. You don't understand. You don't want to listen. You don't Care. YOU ARE A BURDEN.

[Robocopter87]

What? Getting frustrated? Thats not very nice you know.

[Robocopter87]

Millar, your flailing now. God, I thought better of you Millar. Why don't you just name the whole scumteam right now.

[Robocopter87]

To be Honest

[Robocopter87]

I see. Well I be sure to check them out later.

[Robocopter87]

Millar definitely is the better choice right now.

God I'm an active player, not that makes me more town but I'm surprised at how much I post.

[Robocopter87]

You not a Town Player.
Your an annoying player.

You've self voted.
You've provided no content.
You asked for replacement and then called it off.
You have said you don't care.
You've claimed Lover, Scum, and Vanilla Townie. Yes, you've claimed all of them.
You think your helping by being this way. Your not.

[Robocopter87]

I understand your strategy Millar. I'm not stupid. But Millar, everyone knows your startegy now. Whats happening is the Mafia are using you to get a lynch. They know what your up to. They are just ignoring what you are doing and trying to use you as a reason to post, vote, and kill.

I'm not seeing black and white, you are now. Your gameplay tactics were working. But not anymore, its time to throw in the towel on this thing you got going on here Millar. Get Real.

[Robocopter87]

unvote

Theres the Millar I know.

So Millar, with you and your ruggedly expert brain, whos the real scum?

[Robocopter87]

Very Good. I humbly await the cases.

[Robocopter87]

I jumped off the wagon because I know Millar is a better player and if he is smart he will show himself as such. Be suspicious of me all you want, I don't think Millar is scum.

So Xite and Millar are lovers. Well that wasn't obvious . Most people hide and only come out when the town asks for lover claim.

[Robocopter87]

@Robo: How does town-millar behave? How did you see it in that post where you unvoted and abruptly dropped all your suspicions of him?

Town Millar, though ingrammatical, makes sense most of the time. In this one he was flipping out. I knew it was a tactic but he didn't realize he made it a little too obvous and that it wasn't working.

When Millar posted I knew he was going to act normal, and thus I unvoted because I wanted to hear his opinion.

[Robocopter87]

If someone acts town, then I think they are town. Its a simple concept really. Millar started acting town. I don't vote him anymore. Of course, the problem is that Millar might have played his tactic a little too hard and isn't going to be forgived so easily.

[Robocopter87]

Wacka request is wacky. Just vote the players you lazy Alpaca.

[Robocopter87]

Well, Millar pulled a giant dive with his tactic and is trying to pull out of the dive but is having a hard time and Xite claims to be Millars lover while Millar claims he isn't my lover.

[Robocopter87]

I lol'ed at the mosquito analogy.

I understand what you mean sorta.

[Robocopter87]

unvote vote Xite

[Robocopter87]

L-4 I do concur.

[Robocopter87]

I know this sounds like buddying but I know what you mean.

[Robocopter87]

Make it easier on yourself and tell us your grand scheme Xite, before you die.

[Robocopter87]

Thats just kinda fail and mean.

You won't tell because I'm not a townie like player? Thats just the stupidest reason ever.

I'm beginning to believe your lying about this grand scheme thing.

[Robocopter87]

L-2? I hope you get two more votes...

[Robocopter87]

Thought you were a lover Xite, or were you lying about that?

[Robocopter87]

Lovers are town. Not townies. Lovers. And it seems your "Lover" hasn't said anything due to you being at L-2. For if you really had a Lover, they would be concerned about dying.

[Robocopter87]

I really dislike this, you really are just wasting peoples time. You can't leave a nugget of info for us?

[Robocopter87]

Apparently Xite is out for the day remember?

[Robocopter87]

Kill Xite.

[Robocopter87]

Going to be out for today, giving a heads up.

[Robocopter87]

Why don't you go back and read the thread to find out?

[Robocopter87]

Welcome Replacements.

[Robocopter87]

So we know that Chi is a lover along with Fidelis, so we kill the lover to have two deaths? Am I the only one missing something here?

[Robocopter87]

unvote vote Chi

I shall help in this endeavor I guess.

[Robocopter87]

David, why did you get a town on Yabba and a nuetral on me when we both were bickering? I don't see how that works out.

Welcome replacements, bunch o walls but I read them, mighta missed some thing or two but I think I understand for the most part.

[Robocopter87]

Hey, Chi hasn't posted in this game or the other game I'm in with him.

[Robocopter87]

You haven't slept since this wagon started? Thats bad for your health. [/jokinground]

[Robocopter87]

Almost confirmed.

But yes, I think he is townie but you got to keep an Open Mind.

[Robocopter87]

the worst thing he’s done is changed his avatar to a Pokemon.

Now wait just a burger flipping minute.

Pokemon are awesome! Lolz, its an opinion thing really. I don't feel like ruining this topic and making people argue over Pokemon so I forget I'm arguing about this.

[Robocopter87]

Fidelis! Your death was not in Vain! We shall smite these evil demons from the face of the earth on a mighty foundation of your good doing and sacrifice!

The highest praise to our brave fallen comrade, Fidelis!!!!!

What would you give, to say to those demons, that they may take our lives but they will never take,

OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!!

[Robocopter87]

I don't know but everything is all blurry because of it...[/joke]

[Robocopter87]

@ Robo: Why are your posts so empty lately?

Don't have much to say.

[Robocopter87]

@ robo: So, what's your opinion on all the latest votes and thoughts?

Wow, been busy.

Well, I don't see how Don is scummy, I mean, He was the main aggressor of Chi. I have only seen a super bus once. In a newbie Game.

Right here, and I don't see Don pulling this off. Newbie 977. Now, I can play better than this but I really wasn't giving it my all. But it was pretty cool. Pieman was like, Confirmed Scum. And Esurio and Foilist winning was awesome.

I don't see Don doing this. Millar's Day One tactics worked. Shattered Viewpoint case looks good. I won't jump on the bandwagon, unless I make my own case against him.

[Robocopter87]

Hey, Mallow, can you get an avatar? To make it easier to identify posts from you?

I have no defense to your case. I doubt it would change your mind anyway but still. No retort.

[Robocopter87]

Please, don't use Meta to vote peopl.

Thats just stupid. Its the reasons people overload on Alts. Just don't use Meta.

[Robocopter87]

*People

[Robocopter87]

Well, Avoid it. And it was most of your argument. All you had against him besides Meta is lack of Votes.

[Robocopter87]

Robo stop dodging me. Defend yourself

Didn't I say I wasn't going to?

[Robocopter87]

No, you asked me to provide a defense, not questions. Theres a difference.

[Robocopter87]

I didn't understand the concept of voting Lovers. I thought that it wasn't smart to kill off townies in hopes to kill scum. But I later realized that it wasn't such a bad idea.

[Robocopter87]

Wow, Sandman, thats deep.

[Robocopter87]

Thats why they have pictures, they say pictures are worth 1 thousand words. So you could've just done,

[Robocopter87]

Wow, Millar, you add so much.

[Robocopter87]

Don't know if he needs one more but,

unvote vote SV

Wow.

[Robocopter87]

We are a frikkin epic town.

[Robocopter87]

GO MILLAR!

[Robocopter87]

What are you talking about? You haven't said a word all of Day 2. I've been here, but Millar hasn't. We can't have a little fun? It is a game.

[Robocopter87]

^^^ROFLMAO!

[Robocopter87]

Hey, I can't believe in a 19 player game we lynched scum twice in a row. Just one more to go.

[Robocopter87]

Wait. Was Day Two called, "Die harder"? And this one is called, "with a vengeance". Are we copying Die Hard here?

[Robocopter87]

But no vote?

Remembered I was in this game.

[Robocopter87]

Wait. Was Day Two called, "Die harder"? And this one is called, "with a vengeance". Are we copying Die Hard here?

I was in a hurry.

Haha, thats awesome!

[Robocopter87]

Your sig tells me that this is not a good conversation to be having with you. It was a sketch done by Brandi, btw.

[Robocopter87]

unvote, vote: mallowgeno

He's scum.

[Robocopter87]

Same here!

[Robocopter87]

I can bandwagon too.

unvote vote Mallowgeno

[Robocopter87]

Dizzy, I'm voting Mallowgeno.

Mod: Fixed.

[Robocopter87]

Sorry. My lappy is down and I am having a hard time finding time to post. Try to do something useful soon.

[Robocopter87]

Lappy is back up, I am ACTIVE.

[Robocopter87]

^^^ Need to bold.

[Robocopter87]

Further point to add to my case on robo, he has been posting and active in other games, it's just this one in which he chooses to active lurk in.

It be true, I have been a little apathetic towards this game.

I agree we need to get it together and lynch someone. Just SOMEONE, to avoid a No Lynch.

[Robocopter87]

I'm actually not sure...

[Robocopter87]

Yes, I know its pathetic. But really no one is scummier than anybody else.

I understand that though I won't self vote.

[Robocopter87]

Hey, I was voting Mallow too!

Fine. UNVOTE: Mallow
VOTE: Zajnet

[Robocopter87]

I got you your present early.

[Robocopter87]

It's funny how we all argue over who to vote but we're all too lazy to make a case...

QFT

[Robocopter87]

Why the heck did we have Zajnet claim? Whats he gonna claim? Cop?

Theres nothing to claim besides VT. Jeez, read the setup.

[Robocopter87]

unvote, vote don johnson

I can deal with this.

[Robocopter87]

Well, I don't really care who we lynch as long as we lynch somebody.

[Robocopter87]

I would prefer not being looked backed on. Seeing as I have barely done anything and won't really pose a big source of info.

Well, unless I flipped scum, then you can see who I would be buddies with or whatnot.

[Robocopter87]

UNVOTE:

Well, I be a VT.

Who wants to hammer? C'mon, do it.

[Robocopter87]

More bandwagoninng from Robo!
VOTE: Zajnet

[Robocopter87]

You claimed VT to you frikkin hypocrite!

Wow, your last post was bad Zajnet. The hypocrisy and the "He is scum. I am not." Well no duh your going to say you aren't town.

That post was completely useless. jeez, if your going to defend yourself and throw suspicion on to me do it right.

[Robocopter87]

Serious Vote Count need please

[Robocopter87]

Wow. Little late Wacka. We already lynched Zajnet.

[Robocopter87]

Lol

[Robocopter87]

W00t!

Fourth on the wagon is scum

VOTE: Wacka Alpaca

[Robocopter87]

And Robo, don't screw this up for us

I'll try.

Listen, this game has been horrible, we were plain lucky with the first two scum being lynched. We all really gave up on this. Lets just finish this up instead of constantly discussing nothing and just lurking.

I don't care who is killed, lets just kill

someone

.

[Robocopter87]

If everyone who acted like scum was scum then the town would be definitely outnumbered.

[Robocopter87]

I hate how instead of having trouble finding scum because of all pro town players we are having trouble finding scum because everybody who is living is scummy so we don't know who to kill. We had this game in the bag. Day Two and two scum down.

Now this game is falling apart.

Its so Epicfail.

[Robocopter87]

Okay, wait, stop stop stop.

Unvote

Let's think about this. We're about to quicklynch Wacka, who is so fed up with the slow pace of this game that he is (childishly) replacing out. That doesn't read like scum. I feel like scum would threaten to replace out but not actually go through with it, or actually take the time to set up an argument. Maybe it's WIFOM and maybe it's counter to Wacka's meta, but it's enough to worry me.

We have 3 full days to look back on, with 2 confirmed scum and 5 confirmed townies to look at during that time. Right now, our ratio of town to scum is 10:2. Yes, we've had a bad few Days, but we have the advantage still unless we give it up by pushing lynches at breakneck speed.

So, let's do this right. Let's post cases, make arguments, and figure out what our best options are for toDay.

First off, my thoughts on the Day so far. It's only been a page since Night ended and we made it all the way up to L-2 on one of this game's players without anyone even posting a full case. I'll take part of the blame for this, since I jumped on Wacka without gathering any hard facts, but I think there might be scum involved too. Here are the players who voted Wacka just now, with their reasons.

Switz - Voting Robo without giving reasons or being aware of what was going on
Robo - No reason
Muthaa - Wagon growing, attempts to confuse the doc on D2(?)
David - Wacka's reaction to his votes
Enigma - Wacka's reaction = Appeal to Emotion

Of these four (other than me, obv), the scummiest is Robo. Pair that with this comment (bold mine):

Listen, this game has been horrible, we were plain lucky with the first two scum being lynched. We all really gave up on this. Lets just finish this up instead of constantly discussing nothing and just lurking.

I don't care who is killed, lets just kill

someone

.

And this one, in which he decides to complain without doing anything about the problem:

I hate how instead of having trouble finding scum because of all pro town players we are having trouble finding scum because everybody who is living is scummy so we don't know who to kill. We had this game in the bag. Day Two and two scum down.

Now this game is falling apart.

Its so Epicfail.

Now, in the interest of covering our bases, let's go back and see if there's a case on Robo throughout the game, and not just make a kneejerk reaction based on what we think at the moment.

HoS: Robo

Switz, you obviously don't understand.

We aren't going to catch scum by scumhunting. Not this time. I said it before, there is to many scummy things about each individual player to build a case on one person that outdoes all the other players.

I am willing to lynch Wacka due to his, "And Robo, don't screw this up for us "

Right there he basically claims scum. I know that calls me scum too but he knows hes going down. So why not take someone down with him? Since I am one of the scummiest players, he chooses me. Which is the obvious choice.

Now please, let us Lynch this scumbag.

[Robocopter87]

Okay, wait, stop stop stop.

Unvote

Let's think about this. We're about to quicklynch Wacka, who is so fed up with the slow pace of this game that he is (childishly) replacing out. That doesn't read like scum. I feel like scum would threaten to replace out but not actually go through with it, or actually take the time to set up an argument. Maybe it's WIFOM and maybe it's counter to Wacka's meta, but it's enough to worry me.

We have 3 full days to look back on, with 2 confirmed scum and 5 confirmed townies to look at during that time. Right now, our ratio of town to scum is 10:2. Yes, we've had a bad few Days, but we have the advantage still unless we give it up by pushing lynches at breakneck speed.

So, let's do this right. Let's post cases, make arguments, and figure out what our best options are for toDay.

First off, my thoughts on the Day so far. It's only been a page since Night ended and we made it all the way up to L-2 on one of this game's players without anyone even posting a full case. I'll take part of the blame for this, since I jumped on Wacka without gathering any hard facts, but I think there might be scum involved too. Here are the players who voted Wacka just now, with their reasons.

Switz - Voting Robo without giving reasons or being aware of what was going on
Robo - No reason
Muthaa - Wagon growing, attempts to confuse the doc on D2(?)
David - Wacka's reaction to his votes
Enigma - Wacka's reaction = Appeal to Emotion

Of these four (other than me, obv), the scummiest is Robo. Pair that with this comment (bold mine):

Listen, this game has been horrible, we were plain lucky with the first two scum being lynched. We all really gave up on this. Lets just finish this up instead of constantly discussing nothing and just lurking.

I don't care who is killed, lets just kill

someone

.

And this one, in which he decides to complain without doing anything about the problem:

I hate how instead of having trouble finding scum because of all pro town players we are having trouble finding scum because everybody who is living is scummy so we don't know who to kill. We had this game in the bag. Day Two and two scum down.

Now this game is falling apart.

Its so Epicfail.

Now, in the interest of covering our bases, let's go back and see if there's a case on Robo throughout the game, and not just make a kneejerk reaction based on what we think at the moment.

HoS: Robo

Switz, you obviously don't understand.

We aren't going to catch scum by scumhunting. Not this time. I said it before, there is to many scummy things about each individual player to build a case on one person that outdoes all the other players.

I am willing to lynch Wacka due to his, "And Robo, don't screw this up for us "

Right there he basically claims scum. I know that calls me scum too but he knows hes going down. So why not take someone down with him? Since I am one of the scummiest players, he chooses me. Which is the obvious choice.

Now please, let us Lynch this scumbag.

This defense is scummy because it just says,
I'm no worse than every other scummy person in the game."

Robo has a history with zaj, and it repeats with wacka. The move is to eliminate Robo (and if he's still scummy, then wacka) because this defense is terrible and the signs point to him for scum

I would appreciate if you read what it said instead of just calling it scummy.

This isn't a defense. This is a statement. I'm not defending myself. There's no point to that at the moment.

Of course, I'm not vouching for my own lynch because that wouldn't help if I was Scum or Town.

[Robocopter87]

Tell me where I said we shouldn't lynch me because everyone else is bad. Do it.

DO IT.

[Robocopter87]

Actually, nothing important has happened on a specific page that I can think of.

[Robocopter87]

Wacka is scum for his replacement out post. It was bad. And so was the one after it.

[Robocopter87]

@Robo: "DO IT!" LMAO!!

And he still hasn't! My patience is growing thin.

Cmon Sanxion,

DO IT.

[Robocopter87]

CMON SANXION, IM WAITING MAN
PATIENCE GROWING THIN

[Robocopter87]

Actually, the Doc was yabbaguy. Not Millar.

[Robocopter87]

Alright, Sanxion needs to be prodded. He has NOT answered.

I wantz big tazer prod on Sanxion in the face.

[Robocopter87]

Robo, answer my questions.

NO. SANXION ANSWERS MY QUESTION FIRST. DARNIT SANXION

[Robocopter87]

Odds Robo is scum is possibly higher than 80%.
What are your questions robo?

RTFT SERIOUSLY.
YOU FRIKKIN SAY SOMETHIN FALSE ABOUT ME I TELL YOU TO QUOTE WHERE I SAID THAT AND THEN YOU LURK FOR A WEEK AND COME BACK HERE AND SAY IM THE 80% SCUM. HAVE NONE OF YOU REALIZED THAT SANXION FRIKKIN LIED ABOUT WHAT I SAID?

Well. Let me quote how many times I've asked Sanxion to do this.

Tell me where I said we shouldn't lynch me because everyone else is bad. Do it.

DO IT.

@Robo: "DO IT!" LMAO!!

And he still hasn't! My patience is growing thin.

Cmon Sanxion,

DO IT.

CMON SANXION, IM WAITING MAN
PATIENCE GROWING THIN

Robo, answer my questions.

NO. SANXION ANSWERS MY QUESTION FIRST. DARNIT SANXION

And now I'm the scum while Sanxion gets away with this crap. I have said it at least 4 times and he still hasn't done it.
Don't know what I'm talking about, go five pages back on Page 38 and read right after Sanxion's case.

[Robocopter87]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SANXION

Can't believe I haven't done this.

[Robocopter87]

You just seem to be looking for a scapegoat, but if I've missed your question for 5 pages (I don't feel like checking), then I may have jumped the gun. As for your question, you said that everyone else is scummy in response to an attack on you. Since you appear to have not answered the initial gripes about you in any other way, you are either suggesting (which I may have incorrectly assumed) that you are as scummy as everyone else and therefore not scum or simply mentioning an irrelevant fact (everyone else is scummy as well) but then not answered the initial attack.

Both are scummy, so I'm not altering my position much in either case.

YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO READ.

READ THE FRIKKIN THREAD.

FIVE PAGES AND WHEN YOU FINALLY SAY SOMETHING RELEVANT TO IT, YOU DON"T DO WHAT I WANTED.

Listen, I don't care what you have to say about what I said. But you are Lying. I never said that.

In my original question I said

Tell me where I said we shouldn't lynch me because everyone else is bad. Do it.

DO IT.

Did I say to tell me what you thought of it? NO. I said SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT. QUOTES. USE THEM. I never said what you say I said. I never did.



Now Answer the frikkin questions. Its taken you Five Pages to do this. I have asked you multiple times. Showed you where my question was and yet you still don't have anything that I wanted from you. Now I'm the scummy person and you are getting away with this crap.

Why Can't you simply do what I asked? Why?

[Robocopter87]

@Robo&sandman: I'm lazy, why is sanxion scummy?

You just said that to make me mad didn't you.

I hate this. 5 Pages of saying to answer the question. Ignores me. Doesn't answer right. I'm frikkin Left shifting it up and you still don't get the point?

Cmon people. Get the message.

[Robocopter87]

I don't know if you're helping me out or insulting me.

[Robocopter87]

Have you people even considered what I'm saying to be true? Like are you even listening to my case?

[Robocopter87]

Fine. Its not exactly a question. But i wasn't exactly saying "Answer it!" was I? I said, "Do it!".

Now, can we please lynch this scumbag? Please?

[Robocopter87]

Wow. I missed my own post. Too early in the morning. From first 'day one' post.

- Why is policy voting scummy, Robo?
- Robo, why did you switch votes from Chihuahua to millar?
- Robo, #242 looks to be you endorsing policy lynching, in regards to millar. However previously you said it was scummy. Why the contradiction?
- Sanxion. Is anti-town = scum?

These ones im guessing. Meh.

They are so stupid.

They aren't even questions really. You are just posting reasons for scumminess. I take the damage.

[Robocopter87]

That was so stupid.

DavidParker is so scummy right now.

Im frikkin running out of FACEPALM PICTURES DARNIT.

[Robocopter87]

I was a VT Darnit DP.

Oh lets just randomly hammer robo because we have nothing else to do with our lives and hes ranting on and on and we still dont understand that someone flat out Lied about something.

Sounds good!

[Robocopter87]

*cough*Finally.*cough*

[Robocopter87]

WOW.

Well, I guess its a good job people.

Took a while but we got there. Nice job.

[Robocopter87]

I loved your bah post yabba, it was my favorite post of the game. I laughed.

[Robocopter87]

Yes! My sacrifice was not in vain! Way to go town.

Yea, that was heroic Fidelis, good job!

[Robocopter87]

i really think i won this one for the town

Uh huh. Sure.