Cross Edge Bastard Mod! (Game Over!)

[Exe]

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen. But...mostly Ladies.

I am Exe. Pronounced "X". You may call me X, if you like.

I vote no one. Because I don't want to vote yet.

[Exe]

Hmm. Mod-lynch is fair. And this is a decent point to join into one.
The logic is workable.

Vote: Dramonic

[Exe]

Reckoner is clearly lying.

However, I am still in favor of mod lynch.
NS please return your vote to Dramonic. The faster we test a mod-lynch, the faster we can continue normal gameplay.

[Exe]

Exorcism by the blade!: dramonic

Screw you guys, I'm not wasting a lynch on the mod.

This will be interesting.

[Exe]

Parama, I take it, isn't lying about his ability?
The results of this action should prove valuable. You should be kept alive for awhile in order to be studied. That is, depending on dram's next post.

Especially if you are a lady. I love the ladies....

Awkward.

Reck is next to be questioned. A lyncher seems appropriate. May also be overeager. If he is a lyncher.... thoughts thoughts thoughts...

[Exe]

Parama, a question only for you:
How many votes are on Dram right now? The quicker you answer, the better I will like the response.

[Exe]

Too many, you say? Hmm. Thoughts thoughts thoughts.

Fate - I'm just saying...the Ladies and me get a long nicely. From my end, that is.

[Exe]

Wait.
Parama. Can you explain your exorcism spell before we see the results please?

[Exe]

Any Reqs? Flavor?

[Exe]

I'm not fullclaiming on D1, thank you. Rolefishing = setting off alarms.

Fullclaim? I questioned one ability. An ability you used.

If you don't give flavor, we learn nothing when Dram posts, and D2 becomes unpredictable.

[Exe]

We don't know that he has died yet. Irrelevant though.

There is no point in arguing this point anymore. When Dram posts a response, I will pass further judgement.

Giving away theories before they have developed is dangerous to a case. I'm afraid I can't say more.

Bed time. I'll review the situation at about 9 O'clock eastern.

[Exe]

You are interrupting my bed time with distractions...

I never presumed nor implied that a day-vig meant day end. Let me explain my position more

after

Dram has/hasn't died, please.

Nikanor: 'tis not scummy.

[Exe]

*Scratches Chin*

Mod blood...Parama... thought thoughts thoughts.

The flavor of the kill matches the name, at least, which suggests you were honest. Now we can at least surmise what other kills come from you based on similar flavor.

Right now I am satisfied with you, Parama. No lynches for you, yet.
Thoughts thoughts thoughts...

Nikanor is encroaching upon my turf. Voyeuring when I'm the...uh....true ladies man.

Vote: Nikanor

[Exe]

Hmm. So many thoughts.

I am saddened that no one posts during the day...I have so much free time. Ah well.

Hmm.... A lot of nonsense so far. Not really sure what to take seriously.

I maintain my vote. I'd like to see more posts. Where is Kairyuu? I expected him to be here.

[Exe]

Hmm. Secondary mod-lynch?

I feel it is necessary, for the same reasons that I supported the original mod lynch.

Very well.

Unvote. Vote: UK

[Exe]

Will the RVS end please? A mod-lynch is abnormal enough without the extra nonsense.

[Exe]

Can we please lynch PLAYERS in this game?
Exe is very obviously an alt and it's pissing me off.

Alts piss you off?
Get over it.

Plus, for me to be an alt, I'd have to have another active account. I haven't been around mafiascum in a long time.

[Exe]

Thoughts thoughts thoughts is a method of mine. It's how I say that I have an opinion on certain things but I'm not ready to produce conclusions.
If it bothers you...then I really cannot help you with that.

The "alt" issue is a waste of time. Pursue it and you'll only waste time. None of you have ever played a game with me, now or in the past.
Don't waste time with petty issues.

I was not rolefishing.
First, if he had lied about his flavor (not that he gave any other than the name) and the mod-kill was contradictory, we would have learned about his honesty.
Second, now that we can tell to some degree the flavor, if there are any unexpected/unusual kills D2, then we will be more likely to know who they came from.
Third--though I'm putting this in a way that reveals as little as possible--he revealed a lot more about his role when he used it than I even asked for.

If he wanted to keep more hidden, he should have been more careful about his own post.

Longing - your suspicion on Gandalf makes sense.

I am all for lynching players. However, I would rather get a mod-lynch done quickly if people are going to be stubborn about it.

[Exe]

Hmm. Worth pursuing.

Unvote
Vote: Nikanor

[Exe]

EBWOP: In review I change one of my previous comments. My word choice is silly.
Longing is right, I was role-fishing by definition. However, I maintain that it was to a positive end, based on my other points.

[Exe]

You and I both know we're not on the same team.

Wait.

You know this how?

[Exe]

Thoughts thoughts thoughts.

Fate, you make a point. I am satisfied with just bringing up the question, for the moment.

My vote stays on Nika.

[Exe]

The answer to that question is obvious, SocioPath.

[Exe]

Fate, I would like to support Longing's request.

Could you please restate, at least once more, and maybe with more evidence, your opinion on why Nika is scum?
It would be helpful to my analysis.

[Exe]

I read your posts.

However, I would find it beneficial to my analysis if you would give Longing the slightly-more detailed case she requests.

[Exe]

Hmm. Nika is predictable. Earns an

unvote

Gandalf wagon is curious. Hmm. Let's see...

I think I know what I need to do.

Vote: Fate

[Exe]

Would you not vote him if he was clearly scummy, Socio?

[Exe]

Nika's claim is pointless.

It's obviously a coverup for a more important role so he will not be a target for scum night kills.

That much should be clear. Of course, now that I've ruined his barely hidden plan, he will have to act accordingly.

[Exe]

Don't facepalm. My action is perfect.

If Nika is really pro-town and not an idiot, like I hope, then he should know how to handle the situation.

[Exe]

Sigh. Nikanor is either not smart or not pro-town. I'll go with the former for now.

Sadly, you've just destroyed a way to force the scum into a nightkill WIFOM.
If you claimed a key role, and people were smart enough not to counter-claim, then the scum would've been forced to decide which was true, and either way it'd be beneficial.

Would've been nice.

Well, moving on.
Longing, your post is silly. If you think I was rolefishing, then you must not actually believe Nika is telling the truth.
Also, in the crazy chance that I was right and he was a doctor or something, he would've been mentally retarded to claim it. In fact, if he is an important role, he'd probably be doing what he was now.
So I clearly in no way expected a roleclaim as a result. You should think more clearly about my intentions. They are not so blunt as "rolefishing." That'd be just stupid of me.

All of that said, I think that any Soul people should not confirm him yet. Doing so would remove a lot of useful WIFOM, which would hurt us in the long run. That'd be two fewer people that the mafia would target for a kill, which would mean a better chance of hitting a key role with their kill.

[Exe]

Addition to Last Post: Nikanor, please don't take offense to the first part about you being not smart. It's nothing personal.

[Exe]

My vote on Fate can be removed. I learned most of what I wanted to learn.

Unvote

[Exe]

Parama acting unpredictable.

My posts are not scummy. Neither are yours though, yet. You seem angry. Otherwise you would've said more than "His posts are scummy."
Arrogant? Maybe. I mean, I am arrogant. But I don't think I've done anything arrogant yet.

Policy scum lynch makes no sense.

[Exe]

Sigh. Nikanor is either not smart or not pro-town. I'll go with the former for now.

^shining example of arrogance

The scumminess is the rolefishing that I and several other people have point out.

Also yes I am unpredictable. That's what good about me because then the scum have no clue what I'm going to do next.

SC, what about my post drove you to suicide?

I said in my next post that calling him not smart wasn't personal. Why should you feel offended? The situation required my response.

Rolefishing != scummy rolefishing.
You claimed dayvig and justified your action by indicating that you had a requirement. I asked for flavor and reqs, both of which you had already given, to the observant enough eye.
I will defend myself from this point no further if you and others still do not see it. In time my actions will make sense, and I am satisfied with leaving it at this.

I would ask, though, that you all think. If you had been on at the precise moment that Parama used that daykill, would you have ignored it and moved on without asking questions?

And no, it wasn't that sort of unpredictable. Sorry.

[Exe]

Hmmm.
I would like a vote count, sir mod.

Kise, you've claimed a lie from Parama. What says Parama?

[Exe]

Kise, you've claimed a lie from Parama. What says Parama?

Vote: Nikanor

for fakeclaiming. Or, to put it more accurately... LYING!

Parama says Exe isn't freaking reading the thread.

unvote, vote: Exe

I don't care what anyone says, he's scum. Goddammit why did you guys make me kill the mod. I'd love to dayvig this guy.

Woops. Meant Nika. Idk why I wrote Parama. My apologies.

But, you are going to vote me over an accident?
Please, that's just desperation now. At least try to make yourself seem to be logical.

Anyways, as I meant to say, I would like to see a counter argument from Nika.

[Exe]

Say what you want Parama. I rolefished once, for legitimate reasons. Hardly "terribad," as you put it.

And I made a mistake. Your argument that I am "not reading the thread" makes no sense when compared with my posts.

You are angry and tunnelvisioning. However, I find you town, just very passionately misguided.

We really need a votecount. Gandalf must be getting close.

[Exe]

Two votes over a mistype. What an interesting group of people.

Well with Kise's failure, I guess that leaves waiting for a votecount.

*scratches chin* thoughts thoughts thoughts...

[Exe]

Hmm.

Let me point out that Parama's argument is a mere argument by repetition.

Please point out how -often- I have rolefished. You will find that only once did I ask for role info.
And, I was justified there.

I have not been fishing "for so long," Parama has just been repeating the fishing argument for so long.
I suggest logic as a preferable form of scumhunting.

[Exe]

Fate makes a good point as well.
Intentions are more important than actions in a game where all scum know scumhunting techniques.

I am weird. I am not scummy.
But regardless, so much effort should not be put into defending myself from a 2 man wagon against me. Distractions...
Maybe I'll go back and count the Gandalf votes...

[Exe]

Sorry, it's time for sleep.
I will be back at 9:30AM eastern again.

Hopefully tomorrow some of the lurkers/missings will pop up.

[Exe]

Hmm I was going to explain some of my actions. But this is much better.

@Kai I thought you would understand my actions, though I knew you wouldn't agree with them.
Sadly, you did neither.

However, Kai as an alignment cop is good. I like this plan. I expect Kai to be town, as he would know that lying at this stage will get himself discovered as scum.
I support my own wagon, though confirming the caps brigade would be nice too. Or at least a key member.

Vote: Exe

[Exe]

Do you not read? Kai would like a hammer on me to test my alignment. This is a good thing.

Let me point something out.
I do not play so that people can get good reads on me.
My actions are not meant to look town.
First, 90% of people in this game do not read properly. Such as your post indicates. Or that someone before accused me of supporting mod-lynch but not voting, though I did vote.
Thus, arguing about my actions results in floundering around, which helps the scum.

Instead, I seek to scumhunt. My actions allow me to judge others' actions more effectively and hunt scum.
As such, I am honestly about 10% closer to catching scum than the wagons in this game are, in my opinion. Hmm. Maybe 6% since it's a bastard mod.

So please, don't get mad when I fail to explain myself to people. There is simply no point.
I will continue scumhunting.

[Exe]

Wait. Stop.
I realized we may be making a dreadful mistake.

Kairyuu, since you have now lost your vote, we can't hammer-confirm anyone this day, can we?

[Exe]

Well. Aren't you just ignorant.
Also, are you always so shallow? Do you never

think

further than "I vote who is most scummy" ?
No, I suppose not.

Forgot this:

Unvote

Until we can hear from Kai about the fact that he is no longer able to confirm anyone this day.

[Exe]

I am aware. Thus, we need Kai to confirm that he was planning on wagoning me with intent to actually lynch me.

Thoughts... hmm...

@Kai: What are your thoughts regarding your previous statement that both Gandalf and I were clearly scummy together?
Besides the fact that the connection you saw was flimsy at best, you've allegedly been proven wrong so far.
Not that that proves my innocence, of course. Just want to know your thoughts.

Hmm upon reread:
[quote=Kise]Why isn't gandalf being proposed for a bullet? I think the rope could be saved for later + we could stretch the day out. I'd suggest killing gandalf if you're all ears. With that said... don't be surprised if I end up hammering before Kai.[/quote]

Kise is scum. Explains a lot.

Vote Kise

[Exe]

EBWOP:

Why isn't gandalf being proposed for a bullet? I think the rope could be saved for later + we could stretch the day out. I'd suggest killing gandalf if you're all ears. With that said... don't be surprised if I end up hammering before Kai.

[Exe]

Please do not capitalize my name. I am not an abbreviation.

If you think that's the case then vote Kise.

[Exe]

I never said I wanted to be investigated. I just wasn't going to slow one down if that was the desire.

I won't, however, support my own lynch.

Manho, please don't fight my battles. I prefer to leave them unfought, or else I would be arguing for myself. If you do not think I am scum, then don't vote me. Any further than that is unnecessary.

Kise is the best lynch target.
He wants to appear town by suggesting we "not end the day too soon," while giving himself and other scum an out by not having to really lynch a person, therefore clearing potential voters from guilt if Gandalf flipped town.

[Exe]

Hmm I was going to explain some of my actions. But this is much better.

@Kai I thought you would understand my actions, though I knew you wouldn't agree with them.
Sadly, you did neither.

However, Kai as an alignment cop is good. I like this plan

. I expect Kai to be town, as he would know that lying at this stage will get himself discovered as scum.

I support my own wagon,

though confirming the caps brigade would be nice too. Or at least a key member.

Vote: Exe

So why exactly are you supporting you're own wagon back here?

The answer is obvious if you read all of my posts rather than just one.

I had forgotten that Kai could only "investigate" once per day. Hence I immediately removed my vote from myself shortly after.
I was impulsive, that is all.

[Exe]

?
You make no sense BC.
I do not want to be obv town.
I just want to find scum.

And i have.
Kise is scum.

Kai, I invite you to PM me regarding my old identity.
(WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING GAME) Just thought that might be necessary...

[Exe]

Immunity? I guess if Kai's power is true, I do have an immunity...that being that I am order (town) aligned.

Kise

is

scum.

[Exe]

I think Exe is X.

Winner winner...chicken dinner? Did I say it right.

This entertained me.

[Exe]

I prefer the term symbol. Legend suggests I never existed. Hah.

Fate, you must return so you can tell your "alliance" about the Kise lynch that must come next.

[Exe]

Kai: What post of Kise's seems to imply a hammer ability? I did not get such an impression.
My vote now stays.

[Exe]

There it is. I missed that.
Hmm. That may change things. Maybe. Hmm.

No, I still think Kise is a worthy lynch. Vote stays.

[Exe]

Kise still checks out.

[Exe]

Hmm. I think either Vezo or Kise is scum, but not both.
Vezo supported my vote on Kise. Could be distancing, but a full vote seems like bussing, and there is no logic behind bussing after the only pressure is my one vote.

I still think Kise is more likely scum than Vezo, but not by much. I would support a Vezo wagon in favor of floundering. Confusion favors scum, pressure favors town.

Hmmm. Fair enough.

Unvote
Vote: Vezo

[Exe]

WELL PARA ALREADY CLAIMED 3RD PARTY SO I COULD GO FOR HIS LYNCH.

I'm not 3rd party. I'm town with a modified win condition i.e. the Order wincon with an added clause. Not 3rd party.

You are unconfirmed. Until we know more, you are confirmed 3rd party, aka not exactly townie.

[Exe]

You are unconfirmed. Until we know more, you are confirmed 3rd party, aka not exactly townie.

I am not 3rd party. If town loses, I lose.

I repeat. You are unconfirmed. Is that confusing to you?

[Exe]

Hmm.
Benmage, you bring this up fairly late.
Why?

[Exe]

Benmage. Why did you wait so long to give us this result?

[Exe]

Hmm.
I am inclined to believe benmage is either lying or insane.

However, we have ourselves in a situation. Now one of you

should

be lynched.
And in a normal situation, most effective way to do it would be Fate first.

Hmm.
That or we leave it to chance that Benmage is insane and we let them both live for a day...
Thoughts thoughts thoughts.
Then we are leaving D1 lynch on pretty much whoever the Clan decides to lynch...
Thoughts thoughts thoughts...

I've decided.
They should both live at least another day.

[Exe]

Damnit.

Vote: Fate

We will catch at least one scum.

Sociopath's choice will lead us nowhere however. If I flip town (which I will), then you will have learned absolutely nothing about Fate and Benmage.
Even if I flip scum (which I won't) you would be at the exact same position you are now, with a mandatory Fate lynch and Benmage if he flips town.

The useful action is to lynch Fate. Even he should agree at this point.

[Exe]

EBWOP: Before everyone gets freaked out, I say damn it because my post 5 mins ago is now useless. Not because I am sad that we will be lynching scum.

[Exe]

@Ben:

Most try to build a case before forcing themselves to claim...

[Exe]

If you are truly town, I am sorry Fate. However, in that situation we will catch scum-benmage. You should be thankful.

[Exe]

No.

I know that we cannot truly guarantee either.

However, given the statements that Benmage is making, we have no choice.
Occam's Razor would dictate that we go with the argument that one of you is lying, rather than the much more complicated idea that both of you are honest and benmage is misguided and then Vezo might be scum.
Again, it's the only reasonable option.

[Exe]

I KNOW IT IS THE RIGHT PLAY EXE.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY MORE FUCKING STUPID AND WRONG FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.

I can only say, sorry if you flip town.

[Exe]

Idea: everyone race-claims.

Good or no?

Not until we know more about the races.

I would like to ask Benmage what his gender is. Not

his

gender, of course.

[Exe]

Fine. At least I asked.

[Exe]

EBWOP: My last post was a response to Benmage.

[Exe]

Benmage is practically painting himself a lyncher now.

Benmage, if you fail to cooperate in this situation, you practically claim lyncher. That changes the best scenario.

[Exe]

Benmage appeals to emotion. He should appeal to logic.

Conceding that you are willing to be off the wagon doesn't earn the right to play illogically.

[Exe]

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Lyncher

I have not heard any guarantees that being on the wagon is necessary.

[Exe]

Benmage, why can't you prove that there is some standard that lynchers must be on the wagon?

[Exe]

Ben, you are a fool.

You are appealing to emotions. A pathetic tactic.

You are trying to misrepresent my case. You claim we are "trying to avoid lynching fate." My vote is still on Fate. Your logic doesn't hold up.

Unless you claiming would cause me to

not

lynch fate. Meaning you'd be lying.

If you really wanted to lynch "scum" vis a vis Fate, you would have no issue claiming.

[Exe]

Heh, mod is having issues keeping up.

I think that Ben is a lyncher at this point. It's almost guaranteed.

Yes.
Sigh. Fate your ultimate is a pain.

Vote: vezo

[Exe]

Parama likes to make claims without backing.

[Exe]

I like you Fate. You make me laugh.

[Exe]

Hmm.

I have not much more to add really. I would like to see a lynch on Vezo. It's him or Fate, so there shouldn't be much to decide.

Benmage seems quite clearly a lyncher.
Kairyuu: I would like to know your gender.

[Exe]

Kairyuu...

Your gender please?

[Exe]

Of course. And because I like the ladies. I say no more.

[Exe]

That's actually fine Kai. My asking the question is more than enough for me at this point. If you refuse to answer, that is fair. As long as you acknowledged it.

And gandalf, I have been mentioning ladies since my first post.

[Exe]

Dang, I'll have to ISO you and check that out....

I got lazy and stopped around the middle, so that would be the reason for your confusion. It was an awkward breadcrumb for me...

[Exe]

Kise speculates too much. And wrongly.

If Fate is scum then so is half the game. I am one of a large group that is friendly with Fate. Your turn on me reads as OMGUS.

Kise is trying to throw as much suspicion around as possible in order to go with the most likely wagon next day, because Kise is scum, as I said.

Vezo is the better lynch target. Ben is a lyncher. Kise is a scum of some sort. I am not a cult or recruiter of any type. Reck

is

the most likely scum among Fate's group.

[Exe]

@Kise: Are you claiming to have not read the thread? I have been calling you scum for awhile. I had you voted before Fate used his ultimate.

[Exe]

...
That vote is no longer relevant to the current situation.
You aren't the sharpest, are you?

Logic is clearly not Kise's strong-point. You will have to be dealt with much later, after I can see whether your failures are scum-flailing or just confused-flailing.

Let's finish this lynch.

[Exe]

Meaning he's useless to the town. Which is good, since his analysis is so far off.

[Exe]

Because that vote is outdated.

I claim that your current re-suspect of me is OMGUS.

Situation and time have relevance. You voting me much earlier in the game does not free you from guilt regarding your intentions for your

current

suspicion.
Sorry, but you lose.
I have, however, reduced my suspicion of you by a few percent points as it is becoming increasing clear to me that you are mostly just confused.
You can keep barking, if you'd like. I am much closer to catching scum.

[Exe]

WAIT.

I have something important. Very important. Please no one do anything until I can explain.

[Exe]

Reck please tell me you haven't used your ability yet. If not, continue to not use it, please.

I would appreciate if Benmage used his supposed cop role on someone. Anyone works, excluding me since that would just create a WIFOM loop.

This should clear up at least some things.

[Exe]

EBWOP: Just noticed Reck claims he can't use his ability. I guess that particular question is irrelevant.

Parama kill is bad. Regardless of his pro-town nature, a mandatory kill is very bad for town. Could kill us in LYLO.

Vote: Parama

Benmage, my request that you use your cop role on someone stands.

[Exe]

Socio: I am really interested in seeing that. However, I am fairly certain that I will be able to prove myself town today.

[Exe]

You are really trying to call me out for fishing?

Listen. I will speak in a language you guys understand.

IF YOU HAD LISTENED TO MY FISHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME WE WOULDVE LEARNED THAT PARAMA HAD A FREAKING MANDATORY KILL.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO WASTE LIVES LETTING HIM KILL ON RANDOM SUSPICIONS MANDATORILY.

Anyways.
Like I said. You will see I am town.

[Exe]

EBWOP: call me out for the* fishing

[Exe]

IM TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER KIND THAT NO ONE MENTIONED YET...LADIES.

Ah, THAT. Well.
I will reveal that now, seeing as I plan to reveal more later. When I target females, they are told that I have targeted them. Apparently I am a bit of a poon-hound.

[Exe]

Except town has to win as well. I lose if town loses.

Doesn't change the fact that your mandatory kills have a good chance to hurt the town.

[Exe]

I'd rather have Parama alive to keep his kill around, even if he is here to kill demons. But in order for this to work, Parama must be tied down via a leash. Parama, if you fail to kill demons, but get them later, then it shouldn't be fine since you did kill Dram.

I'd rather have the the potential to get rid of 3 scummy targets and confirm 1 kthnksbye.

And what happens if there are pro-town demons? Then he is an anti-town lyncher, essentially.

[Exe]

Hey guys. Look on the bright side.
All further demon claims will be town, most likely. Kthx.

Except now you just totally forced everyone NOT to claim demons. Thanks for that WIFOM.

[Exe]

Fate, since you're the only one loud enough to do it...

Can you make sure that when Benmage finally pops back up, he notices my request? He needs to use his "role-cop" on someone other than me.

[Exe]

Reckoner can kill defeated/souls. Such is obvious.

And he is justifying himself by killing lynched/defeated scum.

[Exe]

Correct?

[Exe]

Hold on, if you can shoot the defeated, does it mean the defeated can target us?

Such is a plausible result.
Also possible that there are revivers.

[Exe]

AHA!

I have discovered something huge.
However, I am not sure how it will affect the game.... Thoughts thoughts thoughts.
More on this later.

[Exe]

I have decided.
I think I would like to reveal what I have noticed.

Humanity - You currently believe. You may at any time stop believing, but once you do you can never go back. You do not know what this does.

Fantasy - Being fantasy may or may not have an effect on the game.

What do humans usually believe in? See the connection?

[Exe]

Unvote
Vote: Kise

Fine. I still think Parama should die. But Kai's ability is useful.

[Exe]

I STOPPED BELIEVING I GUESS THAT RAN A SPEAR THROUGH YOU GUYS.

OOPS.

Well. I'd say we know what happens...

[Exe]

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice!
Oh wait. Wrong 3 time phrase.

[Exe]

Fate has a point. It'd be better to test SC's wincon ability on Parama next day and then we can know for sure.

[Exe]

Exe, why did we need to wait to use our powaz?

I will explain after Benmage cops someone.

[Exe]

It will all make sense. No worries.

[Exe]

Did it really just open some 4 hours ago and already grow 10 pages...did you children learn nothing from yesterday? WHich SPammer should we kill today? They're all clearly scum.

Oh and I was most certainly targeted to be killed yesterday, but one of my neighbors, Faraday protected me.

He also had a QT with 2 others in a separate QT I can name them if need be.

For my QT/neighbor there is another.

There's no reason for me to claim, lets vote me up and have Kairyuu clear me, wasn't that the plan?? WHy is Kise being lynched..and god why is there 10 more pages.

It's not spam and it's not scummy. Stop being blind and calling things you find annoying scummy.

Use your rolecop. Go. It's important. Not on me tho, that'll make wifom.

[Exe]

HE'S LYING.
AHA
YES.

Unvote
Vote: Ben

No one targeted you last night. Nice try.

[Exe]

He's lying. I know of it.

NO ONE TARGETED HIM LAST NIGHT.

[Exe]

My vote stays until you stop lying.

[Exe]

....
Dramonic...was that to me?

[Exe]

GOD DAMN YOU DRAMONIC.

Fate, I am sorry, but you have to lynch an alliance member.

ELLI IS SCUM.

Ben was targeted by ELLI and FARADAY. We know what happened.

Damn you Ben. But you can't be mad at me. Mod fail.

Unvote

Vote: Elli

You're still not a cop, so I hates you.

[Exe]

....
Dramonic...was that to me?

And dumbass of the year award goes tooooo dunt dunt dunt

Go eff yourself. Not my fault dramonic forgot to pm me.

[Exe]

Ummm we can't quote PMs.

But benmage was targeted by both Faraday and Elli. You're right it doesn't clear ben, but it definitely damns Elli.

[Exe]

So I'm guessing you're in the "scum with Socio" camp of calling me scum Ben?

And you're so fucking arrogant you claimed a day cop SANE guilty on me to try to get me lynched? And it DIDNT fucking work because you're the only moron who thinks I'm scum.

You think my play is anti-town? Cool you can form opinions of your own, but DON'T DO ANTI-TOWN PLAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE. YOU OUTED A TOWN PR (ME) AND WASTED AN ULTIMATE AND ALL OF TOWN'S FUCKING TIME YESTERDAY.

QFT.

NOW FATE WE NEED TO LYNCH ELLI!! SHE BETRAYED US!!

[Exe]

ZOMG NEW UPDATE.

STRANGERCOUG, WHAT THE HELL DID YOU JUST TARGET ON BENMAGE?


Btw, I understand I must claim at this point. At least, that ability must be claimed.

Stalk

- You may target someone to know what they're doing. Until you switch target, you'll be informed of every action they take (excluding passive stuff) and whoever targets them.

[Exe]

@Exe
Lies: Parama/Fate/Vesko posted PMs.

Only role PMs.

[Exe]

Um, if Faraday "protects you" that doesn't mean you're cleared.

SC has daycop cleared me, what more do you want??

I went after the SPAM TArds and look 2 scum.

Ah yeah. Forgot that dramonic was just late. God Dramonic has screwed me up so bad.

[Exe]

PAY ATTENTION DT.

REREAD.

I tracked Benmage. I know what ABILITIES he uses and whoever TARGETS him.

[Exe]

Do it benmage. Please.

[Exe]

Do it benmage. Please.

Its beneficial to town, should I just share it, not sure who I should use it on.

Don't tell what the name is. Let me confirm firsthand. Then you know that part of my role, at least, isn't a lie.

[Exe]

I can switch it at any time, but only once per day. Since my use on you was last night, I have the opportunity to switch again.

Which is why I wanted Reck to not use his ability before I could switch to him. Ah well.

[Exe]

Exe full claim results please in a natural order. There be holes in it.

What holes?

There is no need for a full claim.
Stop rolefishing.

[Exe]

Do it Ben. I'm ok with it.

[Exe]

....OMG....
Are you freaking serious dramonic?
You are going to get me killed. FFS.

Elli did NOT target Ben. Apparently the identity of the killer must be unknown since Faraday intercepted it.
You've got to be kidding me. Now I look like a liar. Yay thanks Dram.

Unvote

Whatever, Ben please use that ability.

[Exe]

I'm asking you to full claim your result. As in all the people to targeted Benmage on what night/day cycle. As well who Benmage targeted. I'm not asking you to claim your role mister.

AS IN AREN'T YOU MISSING SOMEONE "COUGH"COUGH" BECAUSE I"M UNAWARE I"M UNTRACKABLE/WATCHABLE

As of NEW PMs.

Faraday targeted Ben at Night
SC targeted Ben at day.

[Exe]

I am pming Dramonic regarding your results Ben...apparently everything is wrong everywhere.
Give me a minute.

[Exe]

Ok, Ben, doesn't it sound to YOU like it's an ability-name tracker?

Sadly it's not. It's just a track.
AGH I wish I hadn't revealed MY ENTIRE ROLE based on faulty information.

So I have just a track watch. And benmage did target me. And I didn't die.

[Exe]

Sigh.
Gained nothing. Woot.

[Exe]

Great. I am suitably frustrated. All this amounted to nothing but revealing that I am a watcher/tracker.

Sigh.

So....

Must start thinking again.

[Exe]

Addition: Can we lynch the mod again? -_- kidding...

[Exe]

exe, so if I am correct
You targeted ben on D1 for stalk
- which tells you who he targets (I agree it is worded like an ability watcher)
- who targets him

Faraday targeted Ben on N1
SC targeted Ben on D2

Ben targeted you on D2

Am I right?

Yes.

[Exe]

So you're a female. Got it.

THAT MEANS ANY PROTOWN PLAYER WHO GETS TARGETED BY MY WATCH AND HAS IT REVEALED SHOULDN'T CLAIM SUCH.
Anywho. 'Nuff said.

Vote: Kise

I support this.

[Exe]

So Kise is the scum then? Got it.

[Exe]

Hmm. Fair enough.

Unvote.
Vote: BC

[Exe]

Stalk on SC makes sense. I should be able to use that ASAP.

[Exe]

Just before anyone else fails at this.

WE CAN'T QUOTE ALL MOD PMS. JUST ROLE PMS.

It's in the rules.

[Exe]

THELONGING shouldn't use the bomb on kai.

Bomb on pro-town player, AKA likely to be targeted by positive abilities.

Bomb on DTM much more effective.

[Exe]

Unvote
Vote: Snow Bunny

[Exe]

YTHAN IS SCUM. I THINK THIS BASED ON HIS ROLECLAIM.

Is everyone going to quote their roles - before the day ends?

NO. THAT'D BE STUPID.

[Exe]

So. Yeah. Distracted packing to go to Japan in two days.
Glad to see how things are going. Will check in again.

I like the Fate hammer-test and then Kise lynch. Fate has been reading as town for me, but I definitely see it very possible that he was purple-scum. That's the only thing that breaks his "why would i ulti with a scumbuddy" logic.
Let's do it.

Vote:Fate

[Exe]

I would've given results if I had any.
Do we have a plan yet? There is a whole lot of chatter and I am focused on my experiences here in Tokyo.

[Exe]

How is Exe confirmed town? I know his role is confirmed, but scum could easily have a tracker.

A tracker that was about to confirm his own role

before

I realized it all messed up? Why would scum be so eager to give up this information?

Anywho. So...Elli or SB? I'm thinking SB.

Unvote. Vote: SB

[Exe]

[quote="DTM]@Mod
Can we get an Exe replacement since he's in Japan and hasn't posted from Japan?[/quote]

I've posted from Japan multiple times already... Don't replace me!

[Exe]

Damnit, messed up my quote tags... Oh well.

Also, SB is most definitely scum. His claim is crap. Lynch plz.

[Exe]

BTW Exe is also a Stalker serial killer, but we already knew that.

This made me lol.

Exe, I'm pretty sure that you're on the list that we're asking for a full claim from.

I'm aware.
I didn't want to claim because there are like 3 people here who want my role dead and/or can fuck with the game via my role.
But I'm at this point, we should have pretty much won this game, so I can full claim now.
I think the person who can throw prinny (wasn't it thelonging? i can't remember anymore...claims are hard to find...) should be blocked/killed. Because I am prinny, and we don't need two deaths, potentially town.
I expect parama to kill me like an idiot the next day like an idiot after I claim, but oh well.

Dood, my world is full of melons and cherries!

Welcome to Cross Edge Bastard Hell,

Exe

. You are

Prinny, Peeping Slacker

. You've been reincarnated into a pint-sized penguin to atone for your sins. Honestly, you'd rather just slack off and spy on the ladies.

Race:

Demon

Faction:

Order

You are a

Demon Stalker

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Unsubtle

- If you use stalk on a female, she WILL know.

Active Abilities:

Stalk

- You may target someone to know what they're doing. Until you switch target, you'll be informed of every action they take (excluding passive stuff) and whoever targets them.

Lazy Haunt

- As a demon, you may haunt someone once you are defeated. Your haunt makes the person unable to act at night.

Ultimate:

Ultimate: Escape Artist (Switch/One-Shot)

- If you so wish, the next time you are targetted you will dodge the ability. Your ultimate is currently off.

Cost:

You're screwed if you stalk a female again... She'd probably destroy you...

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (Order):

You win when all threats have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 92&start=0

Now lynch SB. I am not the droid you are looking for.

[Exe]

Who was the prinny killer btw? I can't remember or find the claim...

[Exe]

Ahh, good. I thought I remembered the person dying.

[Exe]

Ahh, good. I thought I remembered the person dying.

[Exe]

xD browser freeze fail. Doublepost.

[Exe]

Vig and a kill on Exe which would have confirmed the target and Exe

DTM mistakes confirmed and DEAD. Wtf?

My actions don't make sense as scum. I am not scum.
The plan for winning as town has worked perfect so far. Why are you trying to throw a wrench in it now?
I am town. This pursuit is pointless. Have Kai prove it if you like.

Actually, Exe is lying. Just realized that. Either that or he hasn't decided to stalk me yet. Which he should be. Because I'm a female, and I haven't been notified.

Haven't tracked you yet. Was trying to check something. It yielded no results. You can see I'm not lying soon. Give me a minute.

Which is why I want Exe to claim his result.

WHAT GODDAMN RESULT? DO YOU READ? I said like 2000 times, if I had a result I would've posted it.

[Exe]

Hmm. DTM is right.
I have been stalking Kai for awhile. Figured it would be a safe bet since his hammer confirm is so useful to town, that scum would want him dead.
But I didn't see anyone target him.
Care to explain your protect again and why it wouldn't show up?

Anywho. Gandalf you should hear from Dram sooner or later.

[Exe]

Lunch time here in Tokyo. Will return later.

[Exe]

So this means we lynch SB, now, yes?
Will be gone for the next day or so. Will post again sometime weds morning.

[Exe]

Elli wouldn't be a bad lynch...better to lynch a known 3rd party than a random person.

Unvote

Meh. This game is chaos at this point. But I don't see us losing, since so many scum have died...there's gotta just be a couple left I think.
Ooba scum is likely. If SB is telling the truth there is a demon who can kill, and Ooba is the only claimed demon left.

Hmm.

[Exe]

Ooba scum is likely. If SB is telling the truth there is a demon who can kill, and Ooba is the only claimed demon left.

Hmm.

Hi, you're a claimed demon.

No shit. I'm also town. You have point? Nope.

[Exe]

Vote: Ooba

Most likely scum if SB is really telling the truth.

Also, Idk why Dram hasn't notified you of my stalking Gandalf...Maybe my stalk didn't go through? Are you sure you are female?

[Exe]

Random discovery...just realized Gandalf's name and title are from DotA...seems odd that it doesn't fit the flavor of the game at all, but idk what to make of it.

[Exe]

Fair enough.

This feeling... I'd almost forgotten it!

Welcome to Cross Edge Bastard Hell,

Kairyuu

. You are

Troy, Temperate Youth

. So many people with so many powers of all sort. Through all this hell, you stand out as a kind of bland being. Well, you'll use what little you have to protect Miko, that's what matters!

Race:

Human

Faction:

Order

You are a

Human Flawless Hammer

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Humanity

- You currently believe. You may at any time stop believing, but once you do you can never go back. You do not know what this does.

Back Home

- You know Miko Aiba (InhimshallIbe) is an order-aligned Human.

Justice

- If you hammer someone and that person shares your alignment, you will lose your vote for the day and the hammer won't go through.

Active Abilities:

None

Ultimate:

Ultimate: Five-Ring Form (One-Shot)

- At any time, but only once during the game, you can incapacitate a person, making them vanilla for 4 phases.

Cost:

None

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (Order):

You win when all threats have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 92&start=0

OMG WAIT.
WTF?
Gandalf is NOT human. He forgot to add in his "belief" ability!
WTF EXPLANATION PLEASE.

[Exe]

Fair enough.

This feeling... I'd almost forgotten it!

Welcome to Cross Edge Bastard Hell,

Kairyuu

. You are

Troy, Temperate Youth

. So many people with so many powers of all sort. Through all this hell, you stand out as a kind of bland being. Well, you'll use what little you have to protect Miko, that's what matters!

Race:

Human

Faction:

Order

You are a

Human Flawless Hammer

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Humanity

- You currently believe. You may at any time stop believing, but once you do you can never go back. You do not know what this does.

Back Home

- You know Miko Aiba (InhimshallIbe) is an order-aligned Human.

Justice

- If you hammer someone and that person shares your alignment, you will lose your vote for the day and the hammer won't go through.

Active Abilities:

None

Ultimate:

Ultimate: Five-Ring Form (One-Shot)

- At any time, but only once during the game, you can incapacitate a person, making them vanilla for 4 phases.

Cost:

None

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (Order):

You win when all threats have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 92&start=0

OMG WAIT.
WTF?
Gandalf is NOT human. He forgot to add in his "belief" ability!
WTF EXPLANATION PLEASE.

Nvm...I can't read........
-_-
It's been a long day.

[Exe]

Lol 5th post
I also quoted the wrong goddamn post.
FML.
I'm gonna post again tomorrow. I think I've had a bit too much sake today.

Though my post about Gandalf's name and race being from DotA was accurate.

[Exe]

Last retarded post. I promise.
Aurica was apparently a themed character in DotA.
Everything is solved.
I am retarded today.

Ooba is back to the major suspect. Let's lynch.

[Exe]

Your rationale for killing me is rofl.
Google "Aurica Reyvateil"
First response is Dota Allstars thread.
Was googling to double check that the role was female.
Way to be just as spammy and confused as me. Should we kill you for it too?
Nah, let's kill ooba. Best lynch candidate. Occam's razor holds out.

[Exe]

Fiiiinnnnallly. Dram you will be the death of Exe.

I have a new theory. Dram is a lyncher with me as his lynchee. The dram that we killed D1 was a lie.

-_-

[Exe]

What was Faraday's role again? He targeted Gandalf.

[Exe]

addition: in the night.

[Exe]

I find it odd that Fate and Kai are fighting. Fate has been losing touch with this game I thinks.
Have we hammer confirmed Kise yet? If not, let's do so. Likely scum IMO.

Can anyone provide a list of races claimed so far? It's hard to find this stuff.

Vote: Kise

BTW Let's stick to the damn plan. We haven't finished confirming everyone yet, and I don't see any reason to stop doing so just because "we feel like the game ought to probably maybe be over by now." No thx, let's stick with the plan.

[Exe]

Elli (5): Faraday, Elli, SB, benmage, gandalf, Kairyuu

BASTARD OR NO BASTARD I KNOW THERES FUCKIN SCUM ON THIS OOBA COUNTER WAGON.

AND HOHOHOHO EVERYONE THERE IS "CONFIRMED."

I SMELL BULLSHIT.

Elli himself is still possible scum. Seeing as we've let multiple neutral-ish roles survive, neutral wasn't a bad claim for a scum to have used.

[Exe]

Unvote

Mmk.

[Exe]

Thx.
Just looking at claims, I find Elli scum highly likely.

[Exe]

Just quick post between VLA: the kill was done by a fantasy.

And Ellibereth. Elli is scum.

Continuing reading...

[Exe]

Mmk finished reading.
We confirming TheLonging?

Vote: Thelonging

I'm really willing to bet that Elli is scum. If we lynch scum, I will target bomb person to night just for you Parama (who is bombed person again...?)

[Exe]

...
This is all nonsense. People are losing track of the plan.
Occam's razor says the person who claimed legitimate 3rd party AND is fantasy is the most likely scum right now. That'd be Ellibereth.
All of this shooting and crap is pointless. I find it highly unlikely that the game won't be won by the next day.

[Exe]

Unvote. Vote: ellibereth

This should be the next move by basic common sense.

[Exe]

I don't think Elli is scum. I'm pretty sure it's Exe.

Except that we know the last kill was made by a fantasy. Or are you suggesting there are 2 more scum left, of which I am one?

Also your logic all game for my scumminess has been bollox and gut.

AND you also have specifically said you dont want me lynched because then you won't achieve your win condition. Make up your mind, yes?

Ellibereth is the droid we're looking for. Let's finish this.

[Exe]

I would like to ask why TheLonging and DTM aren't suspected right now.
Both are fantasy and we know the kill from the night before this one was a fantasy player.

[Exe]

Wait a minute.
Although yellow, Ellibereth was scum.
Notice "Chaotic" was left out of his faction in his claim, but it was part of the flip.

This changes things. I must think.

[Exe]

I would be ok with sacrificing myself.
However, we must consider the status of the game right now. I want more information before we kill two probable townies.

[Exe]

Idk makes sense to me...
In 2549 Kai clearly suspects your role still existed Reck...makes sense that he discovered it somewhere along the line.

I think someone has a case of the Poor me's...

[Exe]

Also, what was the deal with Inhim being confirmed in multiple Town PMs but not actually being town?

[Exe]

[Exe]

Maybe ALL of you nubs shouldn't have broken the rule about discussing the game out of game...
Then no one would have this problem.
Really, no single person is at fault...

[Exe]

Also...I really wanted to die...my haunt was fucking AWESOME.
Can you say "you have been blocked from speaking in quicktopic"? lol

[Exe]

Yeah, Exe, because Ether walking up over my shoulder and going "Why are you posting as an alt in Cross Edge?" totally qualifies as me discussing outside of the game
Fuck yourself.

SNIPE: yeah, what dram said

Lol @ srs bznssssss.

[Exe]

On a lighter note, I think that the only issue I had with the Reck role is the secret replacement that basically gave him a perfect attitude to play. The fact that he could just spend the last two days like "Lol this game i so long, what does i do?" was a little too easy. Town only won by lucky reread (or some out-of-game accidents or w.e).

[Exe]

Just saying lighter note doesn't mean you're not being just as srs.

...? I am not telling anyone to fuck themselves? I am giving an opinion of the setup. You make sense? No? Didn't think so.

[Exe]

Seriously. You're just bitching now. Stop.

Lmao how do you define bitching? I am not complaining about anything.
Please, if you don't want me to make a comeback, don't say something that doesn't make sense in the first place.
No one forced you to make a comment on my post, so if you choose to, accept the consequences of your actions.

[Exe]

This thread is still about the game that has recently ended. If you need a place to make your retarded little attempts at self-aggrandizing comments then try another forum please because we're not done here. Another site would be even better.

Hi pot. Meet kettle. Maybe you should cut the arrogance and mind your own business next time, rather than MAKING A DUMB COMMENT AT ME IN THE FIRST PLACE AND STARTING SOMETHING.
Dur da dur.

Anyways. I'm done.

Strangercoug, any reason you didn't try to make yourself flip something that would throw us into crazy confusion?