NY 117: The Vanillaside (Game over)

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Vote: MPR

Not only does MPR die day one, but we also get to have all the time we need for day 2!

EVERYBODYS HAPPY

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I hate that Professor Leyton guy already.

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Unvote, Vote: DemonHybrid

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Rudolph with your nose so bright...

won't you guide my sleigh tonight?

Then all the reindeer loved him.

And they shouted out in glee:

"Rudolph the red nosed reindeer...

WHY IS DEMON SOO SCUMMYYY?"





Explanation tomorrow, maybe.

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Voted for DH originally because his case on SSBF was stretching like hell (setup speculation is a scumtell? wanting the game to be over in two days through a combo of correctly lynching/vigging scum is a scumtell), and because post #97 is a bunch of unexplained crap that have pretty much nothing to do with the original reasons, and gives off the vibe that he wants us to think that he put way more thought into the SSBF case than he really did. Don't like how he's afraid to attack anyone seriously after the SSBF incident (I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt)

Vezo doesn't make sense to me. Too lazy to read at first (I understand), too lazy to make a real case (I understand), so bored decides to actually read the thread (okay, whatever), but still too lazy to give one reason (hmmm?).

Korts: I don't agree with lynching reck. Doesn't make sense to me at all. We'll be fine if we remember that all PR claims should be taken with a grain of salt, breadcrumbs shouldn't be dropped this game, and no matter how annoying reck gets, we can't vig him.

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Lazy as hell Elli is probably town, by the way.

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Ray, I've been gone, everywhere.

Seraphim, care to actually put reason behind that vote? "He was scum last game" isn't a real reason, and I know you can do better than that.

SSBF's reasons for still voting vezok suck. Notice how he doesn't rip apart any part of vezok's PBPA, but rather says "the post could've been shorter and he gave DH townie points, so scum."

Serpahim is pushing an anti-town lynch when we have a vig, which doesn't give me fuzzy feelings about him.

I didn't read vezok's PBPA, or DH's rebuttal.

Korts is tunneling on game mechanics, which is annoying, might I say. I would also point out to Korts that he hasn't put forth a good reason why we SHOULD kill Reck, so maybe he should put forth his opinion before extracting ours from us?

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SSBF isn't an amazing wagon, but I'll probably relook if we put him to L-1.

Feeling DH a bit more at the moment. Or Korts. Korts would be a good lynch.

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Korts, here's why I disagree with lynching Reck:

The only advantages I can think of if we lynch Reck are as follows:
1) Scum wouldn't have safeclaims.
We can take away the scum's safeclaims anyways if we tell people to claim when they've been Vanillaized. Then, when no counterclaim comes around, they become confirmed Vanilla Townie. If scum try it, they would be counterclaimed and 1 for 1'ed, which we can do all day. The other solution is simply having PRs not take actions occasionally. Then, scum wouldn't have fakeclaims because they wouldn't know when they successfully Vanillaized someone (the obvious exception is the vanillaization of the vig), or, to if they needed to be sure, they'd have to waste one of the role cop's precious turns on double-checking.

2) Scum couldn't fuck with our heads anymore.
To hell they couldn't. Redirectors wreak havok on town, Vanillaizer or no Vanillaizer. A successful Vig redirect essentially gives the scum 2 NKs, and investigative roles really couldn't trust the majority of their investigations...



Spy, wat?

(Double hint if there is a CC and the CC is scum don't, DONT take that vig shot. Its an Ackbarian trap).

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Is it just me, or do the reasons people have for switching get shittier and shittier as we build more wagons?

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Wasn't talking about you, darling.

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Unvote, Vote; Vezok

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Unvote, Vote: Seraphim

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@SSBF: I do feel more confident in DH being scum, but I also don't want to push a lynch on him and force him to be the third person that's going to have to claim today because that's stupid, especially since it looks like Seraphim's going to be pushed to claim today as well. Vezok's a claimed townie, he hasn't really done much in this game, and while I feel he would be better vigbait then lynchbait, he's still not a bad lynch. Reck, a confirmed townie, feels very strongly about a Seraphim lynch, and because most of Seraphim's scumhunting has been half-hearted or just plain bad, I'm not inclined to disagree.

@DH: If it's for voting without reasoning, you're a bit of a hypocrite. But I'm SURE that's not the reasoning, right?

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And why is being flipfloppy scummy? Do you honestly expect me to have rock-solid reads on Day 1?

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Well, let's see.

My vote already really wasn't that solid, considering it was a vote on anti-town and not scummy. The only people I truly find scummy in this game are you and Korts. There's already been a bandwagon on you today, and its death shows you're probably not going to get lynched today. No one's agreed with me about Korts, so it's safe to say he won't get lynched either.

So, when Reck posted that, it showed he felt strongly about the Seraphim lynch. And considering he's confirmed town, that's the next best thing to a lynch I felt strongly about.

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I don't care who dies out of a small pool of people, as long as one of them dies.

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DH, while the game's stalling to hell because Seraphim chose the worst time to flake, you might as well respond to me.

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I didn't ask a question. I responded to yours. Wondered if you had anything to say to my last reponse, but your last post suggests no.

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Korts lynch?

YES OH BABY YES!!

Made slightly bad by DH's bussing, but only slightly.

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I'm here but I'm not...

Tired.


The world is blurring...

Tomorrow?

Saturday?

Someday...

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Back.

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Shit. I have no reads... Let me fix that. Brb, useless wallpost coming.

Vezok chooses SpyreX over Korts after Ray's ballsy post calling Kort-Vezok scumteam. Fate/Reck/Elli, if Vezok flips scum, do you think this makes RC appear townier or scummier?

I think that I agree with SpyreX about Soc's goodbye post. But I also think that I'll have to reread Soc because there's no way in hell that I'm trying to get a read from VV.

#453 is crappy. It's overdramatic and contentless.

VV, is Jack's absence sitewide?

SpyreX, what the hell? You're responding to people pushing a lynch on you with "lynch me if you want, I'll flip town and you'll be wrong"? What? TownSpy goes down with a FUCKING BANG if he goes down at all, and makes everyone feel like idiots for even entertaining the thought that Spy might be scum... WHERE ARE THE TEETH, SPY?

485 gives me more Vezok scum-vibes.

Did MPR just try to get a roleclaim from a wagon that he ISN'T EVEN ON?

DH, why do you have to add in "lol" or "haha" every time you ask for VV meta?

Post #518 is probably the only reason I don't think Elli is scum at this point.

RC replaces Korts, and displays perfectly in one post that there's no way in hell that he's getting lynched today. I like the style, although I don't think I have the patience for it.

I want to lynch MPR now because he's pissing me off for some reason. Gut, something. Maybe I'll figure it out some other day.

For the record, the Jack lynch is dumb when there's obvscum in front of our faces. Especially when these obvscum have connections to other obvscum that will actually give us information to work with and not stagnate the hell out of the game.

DH, are you trying to pin game inactivity on people who vote without reasons? If so, I'd like to hear your reasoning.

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Spy is town, by the way.

Vote: MPR

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Wait, I take that back.

I'm leaning town, I'm not sure yet.

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The sooner the baddies die in this setup, the better.

So, if you aren't a baddie, I suggest fighting your lynch a bit harder.

Think of the children.

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Spy?

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...

And I suppose you have reasons to back this up, right? Since you absolutely HATE people calling you scum without reasons...

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I hesitate with an MPR lynch.

He's been playing better than I'm used to him doing, and his suspicion of SpyreX seems more likely to be based on a logical fallacy than fabricated...

I feel more comfortable with a vezok lynch. At leasy my gut backs me there...

Vote: Vezokpiraka

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Naaachooooo

No. Go read again.

Unvote, Vote MPR

Read his bloody ISO!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???

SPY I REALLY DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SCUM BUT YOU'RE LEAVING ME NO CHOICE AT THE MOMENT.

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WE ARE LYNCHING SPYREX TODAY.

VOTE: MehPlusRawr

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Vote: vezokpiraka

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no

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Vote: RedCoyote

@Elli: What are you even talking about?

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Reck, you just put me at L-2 before Jack even has had a chance to post.

Don't be a dumbass since scum DOES have daytalk.

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Alright, alright. Hold your horses. I didn't tell y'all to rush to a no lynch yesterday or we could've had one of the scumbuckets out already.

I've got some good news, some bad news, and some great news.

The good news is that Korts investigated DH during the first night and came up with "no gun".
The bad news is that I investigated Socrates/VV during the second night and, of course, came up with "no gun".
The great news is that I managed to pull off one guilty investigation before I was vanillized (

I was told that I visited RECK and was stripped of my powers during the fourth night

).
I visited Nacho on the third night and was told that he does "have a gun".

I'm all for second amendment rights and all, but in this town it's kill or be killed.

Vote: Nachomamma

Now I've got a few leads (since I had plenty of time to read over the thread) as to who Nacho's partners are. I want to share these with y'all before the day ends, but I figure I'd give y'all some time to ingest this.

You were, huh?

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Abilities:
Each night, you may choose to investigate anyone of your choice, and you will see if your target has a gun or not.

You will not be informed if your action is redirected.
You will be sent a new Vanilla Townie role PM if you target the 'Vanillizer'.

You have a gun.

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Here's a tip from now on, RedCoyote.

Read the rules BEFORE fakeclaiming.

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I was told that I visited RECK and was stripped of my powers during the fourth night.

Which doesn't make sense because the Role PMs say:

You will not be informed if your action is redirected.
You will be sent a new Vanilla Townie role PM if you target the 'Vanillizer'.

Which means that he wouldn't be told he targeted you; he would just recieve a Vanilla Townie role PM and a no gun result.

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The only person who hasn't checked in yet aka Jack.

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Reck, unvote. Now.

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Just posting to say that I'll be on now and then but no promises, I just got to college and I have a ton of shit to do.

Consider me back from V/LA, I'm going to stay up pretty late tonight and I have my friend's laptop access tomorrow. Thanks for the wait.

Also, I need some time to process this and figure out what to do.

Are you the gunsmith?

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Who was the gunsmith?

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well, this was a perfect ending to this game, at least

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I blame Reck.

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Nacho's criticism of RC's claim was a stretch though.

shut up scum