Scummies Invitational (OVER!!!)

[Kmd4390]

Good luck to everyone. I have a brief survey I'd like you to fill out;

Vote Hoopla

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Incog and q21 are town.

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vollkan might be scum.

[Kmd4390]

It gets people talking about uselessness and tends to make people worry more about the uselessness than laying votes and finding scumz.

[Kmd4390]

Voting Hoopla would be AWESOME. You know you want to give in to peer pressure.

[Kmd4390]

unvote, vote vollkan

[Kmd4390]

Why isn't Vollkan dead yet?

[Kmd4390]

Myko is obvtown.

[Kmd4390]

Dunno. Lazy maybe. It's not intentional.

[Kmd4390]

Actually, "bored" sounds about right.

[Kmd4390]

Tenchi looks town to me.

[Kmd4390]

I'd be willing to avatar bet. Just keep in mind that I have another bet pending so I may be delayed if I lose depending on how long it takes to resolve either bet.

[Kmd4390]

Tajo, I may end up voting Hoopla after we lynch Vollkan just so ya know.

[Kmd4390]

Myko, no, not joking. Not sure what gave you that impression. I find Hoopla scummy, but would prefer to lynch Vollkan first because he is scummier. Of course things can change, so I can't guarantee where my vote will fall in the future, but if I had to pick now, Hoopla would be up there as one of my top choices. Q21 and CKD are two players who I could see myself voting too though.

[Kmd4390]

Unvote, Vote CKD

I like this wagon.

[Kmd4390]

Dammit! Was just catching up on my games and when I got to this one, my girlfriend texted me wanting to go see a movie. I'll get to this when I can.

[Kmd4390]

Q21 saying that he was after Myko's reaction, not Tajo's is bullshit.

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Why volkan? Why hoopla?

The first thing that caught my interest on Vollkan is actually why I don't think Vollkan and Hoopla are scum together even though both are scummy. Vollkan asked what Hoopla wanted to accomplish with the survey. He didn't answer the survey, but he didn't give his thoughts on the fact that Hoopla posted it. While it doesn't look cautious at first glance, it really is. If he is scum, he isn't answering the survey because he doesn't know what Hoopla is looking for.

The next thing he does is attempt to discredit me when I say he may be scum. He doesn't ask why like a normal person would. He just says I'm useless and he doesn't understand why I didn't elaborate. No request to elaborate, just a mention of the fact that I didn't.

On Hoopla, the survey kind of reminds me of the new "RQS" trend that I strongly dislike. It distracts from actually placing votes and calling people scum and tends to stall actual reads from occuring. The other thing it does is make some people's subconcious think "this player is town because they are asking questions". I can see Hoopla doing this intentionally. I wouldn't say the same for many players, but Hoopla, yeah.

So yeah, I think Vollkan is scum. Hoopla, while scummy, is town if Vollkan is scum.

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Oh, and I should mention that meta tells me Empking is town.

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Unvote, Vote Vollkan

[Kmd4390]

Vollkan, yes, it's legitimate to ask what the survey will accomplish IF you actually fill out the survey or IF you suspect Hoopla for posting the survey. Neither appeared to be the case.

2) It's pretty ridiculous that you would interpret my actions as scum-motivated cautiousness because I didn't "know what Hoopla was looking for". Every single one of his questions was clear in what it meant and my actions are entirely explicable as a genuine inquiry as to the point of Hoopla's survey. You've provided absolutely no explanation as to why it is better to interpret my actions as scum-motivated.

If this is true, why did you ask the question in the first place?

Ignoring for starters the fact that, if you had any decent reasons for thinking that I "may be scum" (which, objectively, applies to everybody, thus making it useless), you should have said them yourself rather than waiting for a "request", it's nothing short of ridiculous that you would now attack me because I didn't "ask" you to explain yourself with a question-mark, rather than doing as I did which was attacking a seemingly redundant statement by you.

The point is that you were quick to pull the trigger on me without really inquiring what it was that I had on you. It's like shooting me with a pistol because you see me holding what may be another pistol or may be a squirt gun.

[Kmd4390]

Vote Vollkan

[Kmd4390]

Not seeing Incog as scum.

[Kmd4390]

The first thing that caught my interest on Vollkan is actually why I don't think Vollkan and Hoopla are scum together even though both are scummy. Vollkan asked what Hoopla wanted to accomplish with the survey. He didn't answer the survey, but he didn't give his thoughts on the fact that Hoopla posted it. While it doesn't look cautious at first glance, it really is. If he is scum, he isn't answering the survey because he doesn't know what Hoopla is looking for.

The next thing he does is attempt to discredit me when I say he may be scum. He doesn't ask why like a normal person would. He just says I'm useless and he doesn't understand why I didn't elaborate. No request to elaborate, just a mention of the fact that I didn't.

On Hoopla, the survey kind of reminds me of the new "RQS" trend that I strongly dislike. It distracts from actually placing votes and calling people scum and tends to stall actual reads from occuring. The other thing it does is make some people's subconcious think "this player is town because they are asking questions". I can see Hoopla doing this intentionally. I wouldn't say the same for many players, but Hoopla, yeah.

So yeah, I think Vollkan is scum. Hoopla, while scummy, is town if Vollkan is scum.

Ignoring for starters the fact that, if you had any decent reasons for thinking that I "may be scum" (which, objectively, applies to everybody, thus making it useless), you should have said them yourself rather than waiting for a "request", it's nothing short of ridiculous that you would now attack me because I didn't "ask" you to explain yourself with a question-mark, rather than doing as I did which was attacking a seemingly redundant statement by you.

The point is that you were quick to pull the trigger on me without really inquiring what it was that I had on you. It's like shooting me with a pistol because you see me holding what may be another pistol or may be a squirt gun.

[Kmd4390]

I wanted to see how he and others responded to this wagon on him.

Somehow, I doubt this was why you voted Incog.

[Kmd4390]

Vollkan, you are assuming your defense changed my read of you and that I agree with your interpretation of the point you are listing.

[Kmd4390]

Ok, process of elimination gives me Imaginality, Hoopla, and Ojanen as suspects.

Wait, no. Not Hoopla. Because Vollkan was scum.

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Meh, fine with massclaim I guess.

Top Scum:
-2 Imaginality
-1 Ojanen

Top Town:
+2 q21
+1 CKD

[Kmd4390]

Hoopla, that lynch order is fine by me. Anything that leaves q21 and Tajo.

Actually...

Would it be better to lynch Myko earlier so we don't fall into some kind of elaborate trap?

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I'm vanilla.

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It is painfully obvious what Tajo's role is.

[Kmd4390]

tajo is a jailkeeper.

Huh?

No, he's a watcher or tracker.

[Kmd4390]

what are you, kmd?

Still vanilla.

But then why was there no scum kill night 1?

Didn't submit in time?

[Kmd4390]

I agree with myko that if tenchi is scum, doc is an easy fakeclaim. He needs to die at some point.

Hoopla, it wouldn't have to be a guess for myko to know power roles. He could easily be a scum rolecop which is why he eventually needs to be lynched too.

[Kmd4390]

vote tenchi

Don't let myko live to endgame

[Kmd4390]

Pretty sure Tenchi was next on the list. What are we waiting for?

[Kmd4390]

vote kmd

[Kmd4390]

This was a pretty insanely good town. Great vidging q21.