Open 236 - Pamplona Mafia (C9++) Game Over

[drmyshottyizsik]

Hi guys sorry I lost my link to the game. I am quite inclined to agree with ekim's case on netlava, but I'm not sure if he is playing scummy or just anti town, but

Vote: netlava

[drmyshottyizsik]

Yes, either he is scum or his playstyle is anti town. I would like to meta read him. NETLAVA SEND ME A LINK OF YOU PLAYING TOWN AND MAFIA PLEASE

[drmyshottyizsik]

Why am I scummy? And ythan, I like meta reading people

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ Net lava, yes i could search your name and find games, or you could make it easy on me and link them

[drmyshottyizsik]

Nothing, I just wanted to make sure.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ beefster dont complain, today i dug a ditch, moved the dirt, mulched 13 flower beds, and laid river rock along the shoulder of a street

[drmyshottyizsik]

Me too, but of course it was on me.

So is my name really that annoying to type out?

Yes. ~~NS

[drmyshottyizsik]

the oppertunistic vote, so im kind of a bias voice.

@ NS It's not that hard!!! G & H is the only one who ever spells it out though

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ythan, are you scum?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Why did you baby beef so long?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I don't know, maybe he is your partner and you didn't want him to fall through the cracks too early, but when you realized he was just a dumb ass you backed off

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ya I know what you did, I get it I should ask more useful questions. How about this
What is your town to scum list?

[drmyshottyizsik]

if you don't mind

[drmyshottyizsik]

PROX!!!!!!!! HI!

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok gere goes my thoughts on what has happened lately.
Dry is lurking and being unuseful.
My opinion on beef is that he is dumb and VI'ish
I think the vote count has it right, Ythan and Net are pretty scummy
I think no one should be lynched untill we hear more from Dry Ald and Ekim

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also my views havent changed to much

[drmyshottyizsik]

yep

[drmyshottyizsik]

Sorry everyone, my house got hit by lightening, and I just got a new computer today.
So Prox why the vote on beef?
And Z why did you obey Prox like he was God? And why did you vote beef as the "real or other" scum?

[drmyshottyizsik]

OUCH!!!!...

[drmyshottyizsik]

What do you think of me?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok. It's time now for restatements.

All of the following has been said before:

Restatements so People Will Read and Answer. Specifically: Netlava, Shotty, Beefster
@Shotty:

And ythan, I like meta reading people

Since when??

It's a fun hobby I took up at the start of thursday morning murder

Yes, either he is scum or his playstyle is anti town. I would like to meta read him. NETLAVA SEND ME A LINK OF YOU PLAYING TOWN AND MAFIA PLEASE

His whole play-style? Clarify.

Yes I can't get a propper read unless i read town and scum

Also, what were you hoping to find in Netlava's recent games? I think I know, but I don't want to assume.

I just wanted to see if he play a very destinct way when he was town vs. mafia

Ythan, are you scum?

Why did you ask this? The tone and setting seems serious.

The game was moving along slowly so I thought I may as well start an attack on him,,, but that really didnt go anywhere

I don't know, maybe he is your partner and you didn't want him to fall through the cracks too early, but when you realized he was just a dumb ass you backed off

I got an entirely different read from that altercation you speak of.

Also: this view seems to suggest that you believe beef is scummy. But then you call him a VI (again, harsh). What is it?

I think, after read some other games he has been in. That beef is just a bad player a lot of the time.

Ok gere goes my thoughts on what has happened lately.
Dry is lurking and being unuseful.
My opinion on beef is that he is dumb and VI'ish
I think the vote count has it right, Ythan and Net are pretty scummy
I think no one should be lynched untill we hear more from Dry Ald and Ekim

This sounds like Good & Honest, not playing the game but still a part of it. You aren't G&H: PLAY THE GAME.

WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! That was really harsh man.

Also my views havent changed to much

So I'm going to have to assume that reading netlava's meta didn't change your opinion of him? Tell us what you found.

No nothing has changed on my views on netlave, since he didnt give me any games I searched him and found that he play like this when he is scum, and some times when he is town.

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Fixed Spoiler tag breakage issue. ~~NS

[drmyshottyizsik]

But since the rest of the town think beef is scum, and he is secind on my scum list

unvote
Vote:beef

I'll go after lava again tomorow

[drmyshottyizsik]

ehh a bit more but not much

[drmyshottyizsik]

just the feeling i got when reading his stuff, nothing to specific, like i said it was just a bit more

[drmyshottyizsik]

Sigh.

Can we focus on the whole scumhunting thing now?

Scummy. Everyone posting is attempting to find scum (or lying if they are scum).

Unvote
Vote: Ythan

either you are just scimming the thread or you don't want people to start really scum hunting. Yes of course we all want to know who the scum is, but not everyone is doing so, not even you.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok here is my case on beefster.
All he does in this game is active lurk untill this post.

Ythan- My reasons against you and Netlava are the same as the others. It was purely speculation at the time, based mostly on yabbaguy's post.
I would like to say that I'm becoming increasingly uncomfortable both with the way you've reacted to questions and answers, as well as your reasonless rolefishing.
VOTE: Ythan

First off he says that he has a case on both of them, but he doesn't. Then he admits to playing follow the leader. Then he says he doesnt like that people are asking and answering question. Here I was already HoSing him.

I already voted you and I'm moving on[/b]
I hate this because he is acting like once you vote someone you shouldn't have to back it up.

Then he active lurks and posts long fluff and quote filled post, meaning basicly nothing.

Then he gets very confused, OMGUS's me, gets confused on which game he is in again, and unvote.

Beef is
1. Active Lurking
2. Playing anti-town
3. Doesn't want people asking questions
4. Dumb
5. confused
6. OMGUS'ing this late in the game
7.Still confused.

Oh and I

Claim: Back up Doctor (nurse)

[drmyshottyizsik]

Not to dr I couldn't.

That's getting personal man, no need for that

More thoughts after marathon

[drmyshottyizsik]

Personal, no. Entirely based on the post to which it was a response. And come on, I said no offense.

That just makes it sting

[drmyshottyizsik]

Bizarre. Ythan appears to be trying to scumhunt as far as I can tell.

If Ythan is trying to scumhunt, then that means you think he's town, right?

Ythan himself said scum would pretend to scumhunt.

Yes this is what good scum do, but bad scum like yourself just question why everyone is scum hunting, because you are scared of being caught.

Unvote
Vote: Dry

[drmyshottyizsik]

Would you care to hammer ythan?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Sorry, I just have almost no faith in claims anymore. He could easily claim cop or doc knowing he would die anyway just to draw out the reall one so they would be nk'd.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, sorry
I'll

Unvote

incase all scum isnt already voting him, I dont want a hammer before claim.

[drmyshottyizsik]

incase all scum isnt already voting him,

I dont want a hammer before claim.

Do I need to explain why

this

is disingenuous?

Yes

[drmyshottyizsik]

Guys Dry really isn't all to scummy, but beef is definitly pushing the wagon along with net, now I'm not saying they are scum, but I've had my suspicions about these two throughout and I think they may have slipped again.

Vote: Beef

Beef I thought that you were just dumb, but you may just be a really good fake VI

[drmyshottyizsik]

Then what's the fuss? It's not the reason I voted him. I voted him for pressure.

Ok as true or untrue as this may be, it kind of looks like you and Net put him L-2 to L-1, just to set up a town hammer, so the next day that towny would get suspicion on them, and you could drive that wagon to a mislynch too.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Drmy's stance on dry - "I'll hammer dry" to "dry isn't that scummy" - is inconsistent.

Also, dry, if you say that someone is appearing to scumhunt, then that's like saying that person is townie. Scum don't actually scumhunt.

I got less busy and re read and analized and thats how I feel

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also, making excuses is a bit of a scumtell, imo.

It's not an exuse I'm just telling you my thought presses and how I feel

[drmyshottyizsik]

Yeah, I wasn't referring to your post.

Oh ok, please be more specific

[drmyshottyizsik]

It's a general statement.

Okey doekey then

[drmyshottyizsik]

Then what's the fuss? It's not the reason I voted him. I voted him for pressure.

Ok as true or untrue as this may be, it kind of looks like you and Net put him L-2 to L-1, just to set up a town hammer, so the next day that towny would get suspicion on them, and you could drive that wagon to a mislynch too.

Don't you mean L-3 and L-2?

On the one hand, Beefster and Netlava's votes were kind of bandwagony. On the other hand, drmy's sudden defense of Dry Fit vs. his bandwagoning on Dry Fit to L-1 earlier makes me happy with my vote.

Seriously drmy, how scummy is Dry Fit to you? You voted him to L-1 and didn't mind if someone hammered without claim; then you backtracked on TWO things. One, that you would mind if someone hammered without a claim. Two, that you in fact don't find Dry Fit very scummy.

If you were Town I would have at least expected you to be consistent in your opinions, but lately I see nothing but 180s.

I told you I actually took the time to think really hard about that, and I took a risk changing my mind, but I think it's for the good of the town.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I have little faithin claims, but sinse the town thought other wise I unvoted. I did it for the town, to see what they could get from a claim.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Suspicious? Hmmmm. Strange coice in word. Well yes but I find every body suspicious because I don't know for sure if anyone is anything. And I agree on a lynch on you.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Vote Lava

Sorry guys I have limitted acess i shattered my foot, and will have limitted acess untill my surgery is over, maybe be a while

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok, so can somone give me a good real case against Zajnet? I may be willing to change votes if you guys can give reason

[drmyshottyizsik]

Unvote
Vote Zajnet

I did what yaba said, made sense, net is still my number two

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ Mod surgery is tomorow will be v/;a untill sunday

Noted. ~~NS

[drmyshottyizsik]

jerrymandering is your case, wow. You are lucky I'm an ap student and know wtf that is.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ya im so drugged man you dont want my to say anything else

[drmyshottyizsik]

VT net im a VY

[drmyshottyizsik]

vanilla townie, wait did you hammer?

[drmyshottyizsik]

oh ya i am, forgot, you'll see wait till death seen

[drmyshottyizsik]

SEEEEEEEEEEEE Net was f*cking scum