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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 50&t=12323Disagree with this statement. I've played one full game with him in Mini 985 and his judgement is definently far from horrible there. Mind linking to that game where he had "horrible" judgement?-
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Because I wanted to know if Kirby was actually told by the mod "you are a dayvig." If he was, then he's pretty obv. town.Sounds a bit like rolefishing here. Why are you asking Kirbyoshi if he was a dayvig or not?
Although in that case, it would have been nice to know before the mod posted the flavour.-
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Are you another one of those people who think RVS is where you look for actual clues to scum?
God those people are annoying.
About Sawyer: What questions is he deflecting? How is he lurking any more than say, Zang? Why is his vote bad?
SSBF is town because he is one of those people who actually notices things that are scummy and not stupid (e.g. "omg XScorpion must be scum because he suggested people start a wagon OMFGSCUMMY"). Your parroting of his rolefishing argument is noted.-
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On Sawyer's "deflection:" You really should learn to distinguish between what is and isn't serious play.
I'm pretty sure that deciding who to lynch day 1 is a contest of "Who's the scummiest?" Not sure about you, but that's how I play.
Ah, delicious wishy-washyness. I love it.I didn't say I think he's town. I said I don't think he's scum. I don't have much of a read on him one way or the other.
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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 84&start=0
The other game is ongoing, but I'm sure you haven't forgot that yet, right?
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It's more a case of me voting him in RVS and then not being given a good reason to unvote him, and a better reason (OMGUS) to keep my vote where it is.I have yet to see a legitimate reason for you to vote Robocopter87. Unless you give us good reasons for voting Robocopter87, it holds no water. I want you to outline your entire case on him.
How is me explaining the reasoning behind Sawyer's vote parroting, when I did not say that I agreed that his reasoning was valid or not?Parroting much?-
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A good reason for him being town? Yeah, me neither.What "good reason" is that? I don't see anything about his ISO before the "OMGUS" vote on you that can be considered a good reason.
I think "being useless" is a great reason to vote for him though.
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The fact that he's posting in this game but not actively trying to find scum is a pretty good reason. Confid hasn't posted yet, and Zang has at least a small contribution. In all of his posts, Robo has told us nothing except that he likes to OMGUS vote.Being useless alone isn't a good enough reason on it's own to vote for him.
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You're awesome. Maybe one day you can actually scumhunt, but till then, feel free to be a sheep.kirby wrote:I support lynches of either player whose name starts with X. They've both been really scummy on their own (no use simply parroting everything), and I could DEFINITELY see them as buddies (but let's not get ahead of ourselves). As for which is scummier, they're about equal to me tbh.
Lol? Are you joking?kirby wrote:Your cases on all three of us are so weak. I don't even know where you got them from.Stop playing so dumb, we have Robo to do that.
You don't read many of my games I see.ssbf wrote:XScorpion has been on the site for over a year, so he can't be called an easy mislynch because he should be experienced at Mafia by now.
Wow. You're awesome too. You and Kirby should have your own club or something.charter wrote:I didn't read the last wallotext there.
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A jerk, because I consistently struggle to see why I should take you seriously when you get me lynched day 1 EVERY CHANCE YOU GET.- First thing I dislike, he did not stop Joking around when I asked him to be serious. Was he just being a jerk or was he scum without a clue what to say?
You haven't given me any good reason to take my RVS vote off you. I've already said this to ssbf.- Second, He was pushing for my lynch, rather aggresively and consitently. The only problem is, He had no case! His vote had been me unvoting myself. Why is that a good case? Its not.
Yeah okay there buddy. You didn't have a case on me at all.- Third, He says my vote was OMGUS, though it was not, he did not have a good case on me therefore it cannot be OMGUS.
Then why the hell are you even mentioning it? Get out.- Fourth, The fluff. Though I was also fluffing, I am not calling a scumread on this.
You definitely aren't paying attention. I haven't called you a VI all game, everyone who is defending you is saying that you are (and that's why you aren't scum). I disagree. I think you are scum. How am I wrong?- Last, He is calling me a Vi, though he has done nothing! If you read him in ISO, you realize that though he talks a lot, there is absolutely NO CONTENT coming from him.-
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You want me to stop calling meta? Uhhhhh no.Your bringing outside Game knowledge to this game. Stop it. And maybe it means something eh?
Yes, it means you have an obvious personal vendetta against me.
I don't need reasons to vote you for pressure.This isn't a valid defense, you never gave a reason to put a vote on me in order to have me give you a good reason to take the vote off.
You did it first, buddy. Your hypocritical arguments don't scare me.Neither did you, stop fighting my arguements with my reasons fired back at me.
See hypocrisy.Because its a major partt of your posts. No you.
SSBF says you aren't a VI, but he doesn't call you scum either. I don't see how that's possible - you are one or the other, and I think you are the latter.Explain the meaning of the quote below then.-
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Semantics.No, I have nothing against you, but rather against your play apparently.
Explain why I told people to start a wagon on you then. For a quicklynch?AHA! Now its a pressure vote? No. Don't give me this crap. Thats a downright LIE and you know it.
What case? Show me something you came up with that wasn't stolen from someone else.At least I have a case, unlike you.I knew it was hypocrisy, which was I said it wasn't a scumtell, Jeez, you are just being stubborn now.THEN WHY DID YOU BRING IT UP
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Yeah there's an ongoing game where people do this and it's ok so I figured I'd do it hereThats my point you have posted absolutely NO reason for your vote on me yet. Which makes you scummy because you have no reason thats posted. And you are pushing for my lynch.
Sorry, let me rephrase. Show me something GOOD you came up with that wasn't stolen from someone else.useless nonsense
whyBECAUSE ITS IMPORTANT NONETHELESS.
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His analysis post is pretty boring and doesn't tell us anything useful about Robo's alignment. Hell, I can do the same thing in like 20 minutes:
Charter: Tunneling like crazy. He isn't scumhunting, he's just looking for people to tie to me (pro-tip: these are not the same thing). All of his reads come from out of nowhere and make no sense (decides I'm obv.scum before RVS is even over, claims to have picked out 3 confirmed townies. Anyone else notice how he failed to actually NAME THESE THREE?). Charter might be a horrible town player, but I'm a nice guy so I'm more inclined to believe he's just scum ^_^
Confid: AFK
hiphop: convinced me that xvart is town because I'm biased from the one game I played with hiphop. Dont understand how he goes from a fos on xvart to a fos on me to a vote on xvart. VOTE ME BITCH STOP FENCE SITTING
Jenni: is better at this game than me even though I've been on the site longer. I do agree with xvart though that picking out scumteams this early is useless and never helps (me at least) find scum.
Kirby: Pretty useless too. Reminds me of how Charter called Jenni a lurkerscum...anyone else looked at this guy? Robo's "leaning town" on him makes absolutely no sense from a town perspective, I can see him and Robo being connected (yes im contradicting myself when I say picking scumteams early is useless, bite me ).
Robo: I've said enough already.
Sawyer: While I like how he's got a coherent argument going, I find it funny that he hasn't actually stated whether or not he thinks Kirby is town...just that xvert is scum.
Would you care to do the same? That would be nice.sawyer wrote:Robo, can you give your thoughts on everyone so far please?
SSBF: His play is the same as in megaman (except roles aren't the same and he's voting me), prob. town.
xvert: is putting way too much effort into this game to be scum (yay wifom). He goes in the same category as Jenni.
Zang: less lurk more post plz
There done. I'll even be awesome and add actual questions too (something Robo didn't care to do because he doesn't actually need to find scum).
@Charter: As hard as it may be for you, try to imagine the following scenario: I'm town, and dead because you got me lynched day 1. SSBF is nightkilled. Who is scum in this case?
(Ill ask Confid and Zang stuff after they actually post useful things)
@hiphop: explain the transition from fos to vote on xvert.
@Jenni: See Charter's scenario, except replace me being dead town with Charter being dead town.
@Kirby: Your opinion of Robo, please.
I'd ask robo something but he refuses to talk to me.
@Sawyer: O wait i asked something alrdy
@Spyrex: Where did you go? Also why do you think I am scum with the lurkers?
@SSBF: How is my play matching up with what you saw in megaman?
@xvert: Who is your number 2 read?
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OK Sure Robo.
ISO 1-5 is irrelevant.
Post 6 is interesting. It's basically the closest robo gets to scumhunting in the whole game. Strange how Robo calls Charter jumpy here but never again, despite the fact that Charter hasn't changed his play since his first post.
12 is not just OMGUS, but doesn't even have a case with it. If it was still RVS it would be okay in my eyes, but RVS is long over. I think scum are more likely than town to post a vote and come up with a case later.
Everything else is irrelevant until 25. Let's look at each person he analyzes (excluding lurkers):
Charter: points out three suspicious things about him, but then claims to have a null read. Why do you say null when the only things you point out about him are suspicious? Conveniently, Robo and Charter are voting together.
hiphop: Hiphop overreacted to me at the beginning in the same way as Charter overreacted to Robo's self vote, but in this case, hiphop is definite scum in Robo's eyes. Why is he worse than charter? My theory: hiphop isn't voting the right way.
Jenni: Jenni's posts are too long for Robo to read (he admits this) so he just goes and says "town." Robo, do you care to comment on any of the points Jenni has made on us, such as:
(I'd like you to actually read Jenni's posts, so I'm only gonna give one example. I expect you to go through them and comment on Jenni's points that relate to us.)jenni wrote:XScorp brought trouble on his own head by rolefishing/etc., as did Xvart by having an overreactive hissy fit, and early on, Robo by self-voting. If they aren't scum, then they have all put big fat targets on their heads with sloppy, sloppy, sloppy play, which makes it cake for the scum to mark them as easy mislynches. (It seems you've cleared Robo for the VI role, though, since you're tagging XScorp and building a case that includes his refusal to unvote Robo.)
Kirby: "leaning town," without actually giving any examples as to why except that the daykill got us out of RVS. Have you actually bothered to read ANY of the discussion people have made about this? What do you think of Confid's opinion?
Robo: This is interesting-confid wrote:I think the daykill is a complete nulltell. As others have pointed out, it's a gambit that could be used to gain insight into alignments as town, or to fake gaining insight into alignments as scum.
Is it just coincidence that "lately" seems to refer to basically every game we've played together?- My play isn't very well, when i was a newbie, I sucked, then I became a quite decent player and posted large posts and the such. Lately I kinda have not done that.
Sawyer: thinks he's town, but then says Sawyer created WIFOM and doesn't have "much town play." Talk about conflicting opinions. I wouldn't be surprised at all though if Robo now decides that Sawyer is town because he's voting for me.
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So...WHY DIDNT YOU ASK FOR ANY???? Oh I know why, because you don't care about reasoning, you just want me to die. Real pro-town of you.- Vote on Xscorp looked like a reaction thing but may have reasoning
SSBF: protown of course, he's voting me.
XS: Ive already gone over his 'case' on me enough that he won't talk about it anymore.
xvart: he's not a newb, but he's newbtown? You aren't making any sense.
After arguing, he decides to stop. If I'm scum, surely there are flaws in my argument? If it's "scummy nonsense" then, as town, you should be able to refute all my points with ease. Why are you stopping?
And since then, he has done absolutely nothing. Literally nothing. Hasn't asked anyone any questions, hasn't pressured anyone, hasn't commented on anything that wasn't directly asked of him.
AND ROBO DON'T YOU DARE START RESPONDING TO THIS TILL YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF HIPHOP'S POST
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Because Robo probably hasn't even read it and hasn't shown any interest in what it says at all. I'll comment on it as soon as he does.Why don't you comment it? Why are you shifting it to someone else?-
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Some things.Except for the xscorpion rolefishing, there would be nothing that separates xscorpion-scum from robo-scum, and I really do not like all the noise they are pushing. In fact now that I think about it I really do not think the rolefishing was so bad. Look at it this way-kirby fake vigs, the mod writes the flavor. Now based off what other people said it looked like people believed that kirby was actually a vig after the flavor, but were not quite sure. Now if that were the case the fake-vig can be looked at as a real vig. And if he is a real vig, then he just breadcrumbed his role. Now I am not an expert on breadcrumbing, but i believe it is supposed to be like an actual claim, but not quite. But being that is was so blatant, then it was an actual claim. Confirm claim anyone? And being that he asked before kirby verified the kill was a fake makes it not scummy compared to scummy if he did afterwards. So the way i look at it xscorp and robo are just noise so far. What is the difference between the 2?
1) If you don't like noise, don't read it.
2) Sawyer thought he was serious, and even asked kirby why the kill failed. Why do you not mention him?
3) Do you think breadcrumbing PR is scummy or not? I think it is. Why would a town PR want scum to know who they are?
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Because it means you aren't willing to step off the bloody fence and decide if he's more likely to be scum or town.zang wrote:How is not having a read on someone wish-washy?
Of the people who did post, you had posted the least, and also you didn't vote. That's pretty lurky IMO. At least Confid was away.zang wrote:Why me? I posted a few posts above you. There were people who didn't even post yet so why did you want him compared to me?
Let's try an experiment. I'll make an alt where, in every game I play with you, I always try to get you lynched day 1 without fail. How would you react?zang wrote:I dont see why you shouldnt take him seriously just becauase he thinks your scummy.zang wrote:Why did you vote charter?
Well let's see...more popular wagon...my options are charter, or myself. I wonder which I should pick?hiphop wrote:So if you believe this to be true, why are you still voting him? Not only that but we only have 4 days left, and being that you have not convinced anyone that robo is scum, it is about time that you joined a more popular wagon.
Does everyone else's flavour 'fit their role'? just curious.
BTW did you read this Zang?mod wrote:Flavor should not affect the outcome of the game.-
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And I did?But it was only page 3 and robo barely gave any content.
I refuse to avoid joining certain games just because someone who always votes for me on day 1 is in them.I'd be fine with that as long as I was actually scummy and you weren't just making up reasons to vote for me. If it got really bad, I'd just stop joining games with you in them.
Explain how it would help town if I left my vote on robo.You shouldn't vote for the most popular wagon just because it's popular. You should vote for who you think is scum.
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That's gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this site.charter wrote:
Because he doesn't need to live until the end?SpyreX wrote:Why would you claim one-shot otherwise? An SK would get busted properlike gangsta style and that being a mafia only makes sense if they have a 1 shot vig... which is unlikely at best.Maybe he's a mafia one shot vig?-
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This. I think I'll add Zang to the top list.If charter flips scum, XScorpion should surely vig SpyreX, who's defended charter up the wall and all around town. Similar things happened in Mini 985 where he defended charter to death. He and charter were scum.
If charter flips town, I suggest vigging either Robocopter87 or ConfidAnon. I personally am suspicious of Robocopter87 and ConfidAnon doesn't look like he'll be helping town anytime soon.-
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From the wiki:wiki wrote:In most cases, when a roleblocker targets a person using a one-shot power, the power is considered used and gone. Exceptions are made based on an individual game's theme and flavor or individual mod preference. The exact effects of roleblocking a one-shot power should be decided during the design of the game.-
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