Mini 1023 - City Watch Mafia - Game Over!

[jimfinn]

except if it's a one day role, it doesn't do scum any good to find it, does it?

VOTE COUNT

Narsis (1): jimfinn
Chronopie (1): Narsis
VasudeVa (1): TheButtonmen

Not Voting (7): Chronopie, Budja, Plum, VasudeVa, Tasky, FakeGod, Thor665

With 10 alive, 6 votes are needed to lynch.

[Narsis]

except if it's a one day role, it doesn't do scum any good to find it, does it?

no. but what if that person has a role that lasts more then one day as well? what if the one day power is such that it would be better if the scum didnt know about it?(like a one day bomb or supersaint type thing)

i think it's best if we leave it up to the discretion of the person with it. only they know what it does and whether or not the risk is worth it.

[FakeGod]

Whoever this Vimes person is probably should claim his power. It looks like this is the games mechanic. All VTs then random townies get power roles.

Does the Charisntmha thingy D1 have anything to do with double voting? Any theories on what drunkenness does?

Why State Obvious Things? Just In Case Mafia Didn't Understood???

And WHY would you POSSIBLY want these information?

I don't see a logical answer you could make to that question that somehow outweighs the consequences: the mafia also obtaining these info.

Vote: VV

For all the same reasons as yesterday and the recent role fishing.

Not really sure if I can call it rolefishing though, it's more a long the lines of role harpooning or perhaps role torpedoing.

Vote: VasudeVa

, I'd say role torpedoing, with a nuclear warhead.

[jimfinn]

I think if someone didn't know Mysterio could doublevote, they might accidentally lynch a wagon Mysterio was part of when trying to L-1 someone. So yes, the information could help us I suppose.

[Thor665]

Eeesh, too many scummy players, not enough lynchings.

I'm probably game for the Chronopie or VV wagons.

Vote: Chronopie

Alternate wagons are excitement wrapped in joy.
Also, he is the most suspicious player on the KHG wagon in my opinion.

I've got to re-read the push on Mysterio again as well - potential brilliance will come from that methinks.

[Budja]

vote: Fakegod

@jimfinn, do

you

think Narsis is scum.

[Budja]

^ Chrono isn't bad either. Narsis's recent posting makes me feel better about him.

[jimfinn]

I think there are many scummy players; too many for them all to be scum. Narsis is certainly one of the scummier players, but I won't say with confidence that he is.

[VasudeVa]

I liked Narsis' response too.

@Button: Why don't you adress my points before you actually jump on me and go 'OMG I FOUND A WIKI-SCUMTELL LOLX'.?
@FakeGod: Scum already have all the information they need, as an informed minority, to win the game. Town doesn't. ANY information Town gets helps Town better in the long run.

I also liked Narsis' responses. Budja is definitely Town.

[Narsis]

@FakeGod: Scum already have all the information they need, as an informed minority, to win the game. Town doesn't. ANY information Town gets helps Town better in the long run.

now see that's not entirely true. they dont know what, if any, powerroles exist. the way you have worded this it sounds like you would support an early massclaim.

[Narsis]

vote: Fakegod

@jimfinn, do

you

think Narsis is scum.

why the vote on Fakegod?

[TheButtonmen]

@Button: Why don't you adress my points before you actually jump on me and go 'OMG I FOUND A WIKI-SCUMTELL LOLX'.?

Mind backing that up with a quote?

[VasudeVa]

Vote: VV

For all the same reasons as yesterday and the recent role fishing.

Not really sure if I can call it rolefishing though, it's more a long the lines of role harpooning or perhaps role torpedoing.

implying wagon accusation wiki tell + rolefishing wiki tell.

[TheButtonmen]

implying wagon accusation wiki tell

Huh?
I love how you always attack me never my points, though yesterdays deflection was much classier.

[FakeGod]

@VV: I don't like the way you disregard Buttonmen's case as just a wiki-tell, because 1) then you're implying things in the wiki are to be disregarded, and 2) frankly, rolefishing is almost always anti-town, no matter what the wiki says.

@Button: could you explain post 308? Weren't you aware that Mysterio claimed Double Voter?

preview: ninja'd by Button

[VasudeVa]

@FakeGod: You are being terribly closeminded. Knowing who's what organizes Town. An organized Town is a Town to fear.

Wikitells are terribly outdated and extremely lazy.

@Button: Hmm.. I seem to have mixed up my games. Disregard that too.

[Chronopie]

Just saying Rolefishing is a Scum tell, doesn't help. As afaict it isn't much of one.

I know that I'm probably the antithesis of a good townie. And I know that I tend to Rolefish (sometimes inadvertently), ALOT. Alignment independent. Null tell.

[Narsis]

Just saying Rolefishing is a Scum tell, doesn't help. As afaict it isn't much of one.

I know that I'm probably the antithesis of a good townie. And I know that I tend to Rolefish (sometimes inadvertently), ALOT. Alignment independent. Null tell.

if you are the antithesis of a good townie then what is the point of keeping you around? wouldn't it be better to kill you now then have you causing trouble later?

[VasudeVa]

Just saying Rolefishing is a Scum tell, doesn't help. As afaict it isn't much of one.

I know that I'm probably the antithesis of a good townie. And I know that I tend to Rolefish (sometimes inadvertently), ALOT. Alignment independent. Null tell.

if you are the antithesis of a good townie then what is the point of keeping you around? wouldn't it be better to kill you now then have you causing trouble later?

Same goes to you, apparently. Although you're probably Town. Chrono is too.

[FakeGod]

@VV: Quit misrepping me. I never encouraged wiki-tells. I pointed out the extreme lazy defense you employed in dismissing the case against you as just a wikitell.

Also, please clarify yourself. You yourself already said this town's full of townies with one pr added on at beginning of each day.

This is basically encouraging massclaims every morning.

preview: ninja'd by bunch of people

[Narsis]

@FakeGod: You are being terribly closeminded. Knowing who's what organizes Town. An organized Town is a Town to fear.

Wikitells are terribly outdated and extremely lazy.

@Button: Hmm.. I seem to have mixed up my games. Disregard that too.

knowing who's what also organizes the scum. and an organized scum is a scum to fear.

preview edit: i admit i wasnt the towniest person day 1(i hate day 1s) but i am attempting to rectify that am i not? however it looks to me like Chronopie is planning on playing like this the entire game.

[FakeGod]

Just saying Rolefishing is a Scum tell, doesn't help. As afaict it isn't much of one.

I know that I'm probably the antithesis of a good townie. And I know that I tend to Rolefish (sometimes inadvertently), ALOT. Alignment independent. Null tell.

if you are the antithesis of a good townie then what is the point of keeping you around? wouldn't it be better to kill you now then have you causing trouble later?

Couldn't have said it better.

If you're scummy enough to distract other players from their scumhunting, wouldn't the best thing you could do for the town be removing yourself early on via lynch?

preview: ninja'd by narsis.

[VasudeVa]

Lazy attacks beget lazy defense.

That's a theory. It looks like it, atm. I'm waiting on our Vimes to confirm.

Not necessarily. MCs are never good and are usually done at LyLo. Cop claims with a doctor in an open setup are good. Hider claims are good. Miller claims are good. Etc.

@Narsis: Faulty logic. Scum are already organized from the getgo because they know who their buddies are.

[FakeGod]

except if it's a one day role, it doesn't do scum any good to find it, does it?

How do you know if it's a one day role?

Is there something I missed?

[Narsis]

@Narsis: Faulty logic. Scum are already organized from the getgo because they know who their buddies are.

however they dont know who or what power roles may exist in the game.